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peeonwrigley
05-26-2006, 11:32 AM
According to Joey Cora, who was just on WSCR, Ozzie will manage and coach 3rd base for the 2 games Joey is suspended.

I don't remember ever seeing this. Should be fun to watch.

samram
05-26-2006, 11:34 AM
Will Ozzie be more or less conservative when guys are rounding third? I don't think Joey has a stop sign unless it's PK.:D:

Vernam
05-26-2006, 11:35 AM
Dang, I was hoping it'd be Ozney. :redneck

Vernam

Uncle_Patrick
05-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Dang, I was hoping it'd be Ozney. :redneck

Vernam

I was hoping to see Man Soo Lee out there.

SBSoxFan
05-26-2006, 11:37 AM
According to Joey Cora, who was just on WSCR, Ozzie will manage and coach 3rd base for the 2 games Joey is suspended.

I don't remember ever seeing this. Should be fun to watch.

Agreed! Gotta give some kudos to Steve Rosenbloom this morning on ESPN 1000. During their talk with Levine regarding the suspensions Levine said Raines would probably coach third. Rosenbloom (at least I figure it wasn't Salisbury) asked why Ozzie wouldn't. And Levine, the great baseball insider that he is, thought it was the best idea since sliced bread. Rosenbloom then mentioned that Lasorda used to coach third often when he was trying to turn around the Dodgers.

Baby Fisk
05-26-2006, 11:37 AM
If Bafia was ever meant to Rock, now is the time.

Trav
05-26-2006, 11:40 AM
This is an example of why I like Ozzie as a manager. He is interesting. I don't think there is an advantage to this but it is out of the box. I doubt it is a first but I also doubt you would see anyone else in the MLB do this. I dunno but I like it.

cbotnyse
05-26-2006, 11:42 AM
According to Joey Cora, who was just on WSCR, Ozzie will manage and coach 3rd base for the 2 games Joey is suspended.

I don't remember ever seeing this. Should be fun to watch.

that will be fun to watch....anyone know which games it will be?

I predict getting tossed at least one of the games

Ol' No. 2
05-26-2006, 11:44 AM
that will be fun to watch....anyone know which games it will be?

I predict getting tossed at least one of the gamesCoaches and managers can't appeal, so I would assume the suspension would begin today.

viagracat
05-26-2006, 11:48 AM
Coaches and managers can't appeal, so I would assume the suspension would begin today.

You are correct. Ozzie at third should be fun. Unfortunately, I'll be driving to St Louis tonight and will probably miss the game...:(:

bafiarocks03
05-26-2006, 12:14 PM
Oooo This shall be great! =]

ondafarm
05-26-2006, 12:26 PM
This is an example of why I like Ozzie as a manager. He is interesting. I don't think there is an advantage to this but it is out of the box. I doubt it is a first but I also doubt you would see anyone else in the MLB do this. I dunno but I like it.

There is one large advantage and one large disadvantage.

The advantage is that the manager's signs to the coach, which are typically simpler than the coach's signs to the players, can't be picked off, because there aren't any.

The disadvantage is the manager has more trouble planning strategy (pinch-hitters) and giving last minute advice to players in the dugout.

StillMissOzzie
05-26-2006, 12:28 PM
According to Joey Cora, who was just on WSCR, Ozzie will manage and coach 3rd base for the 2 games Joey is suspended.

I don't remember ever seeing this. Should be fun to watch.

Didn't Ozzie coach 3rd for the Marlins? It's not like he'd be a newbie there.

SMO
:gulp:

palehozenychicty
05-26-2006, 12:30 PM
Didn't Ozzie coach 3rd for the Marlins? It's not like he'd be a newbie there.

SMO
:gulp:

yes, and he watched the cubs' meltdown from the field, and won a ring as well in '03. man, reinsdorf hiring ozzie was the best move he's ever made as chairman.

Trav
05-26-2006, 12:32 PM
Didn't Ozzie coach 3rd for the Marlins? It's not like he'd be a newbie there.

SMO
:gulp:

Most managers are former 3B coaches. Given this, I am a little suprised that Raines, who has manager asperations, isn't filling in.

oeo
05-26-2006, 12:47 PM
Most managers are former 3B coaches. Given this, I am a little suprised that Raines, who has manager asperations, isn't filling in.

Wouldn't you get better experience of managing a game as a bench coach?

DeadMoney
05-26-2006, 01:03 PM
Most managers are former 3B coaches.

Along with that, I'm pretty sure that most minor league managers actually coach third base.

I seem to remember going to a 51's game in Vegas a few years ago and saw the third base coach holding a line-up card and going to the umpire between innings to make changes.

Vernam
05-26-2006, 01:05 PM
Wouldn't you get better experience of managing a game as a bench coach?Traditionally, bench coaches were glorified lackeys. I think it's a pretty recent development that they actually help the manager strategize very much. I still think 3B coach is considered a quicker route to a managing job, though Girardi is a good example of someone who made the jump from bench coach to manager.

Vernam

Trav
05-26-2006, 01:11 PM
Along with that, I'm pretty sure that most minor league managers actually coach third base.

I seem to remember going to a 51's game in Vegas a few years ago and saw the third base coach holding a line-up card and going to the umpire between innings to make changes.

I know that most the AAA teams that come through the Tidewater area do. Also, most of the 1B coaches are actually players on some teams.

ondafarm
05-26-2006, 01:25 PM
I know that most the AAA teams that come through the Tidewater area do. Also, most of the 1B coaches are actually players on some teams.

In American minor league ball, I've always seen a lot of managers coach 3B and frequently the hitting coach coach 1B.

The first base coach is the guy on the spot to reinforce good hitting behavior in a recent success (getting a hit.)

Keep in mind, at the start of every season, each team provides a list of their coaches to the league. That list is all of the (non-medical and security) people allowed on the field for the team for the year. If anybody new is added to the list during the season, he must receive the approval of every team in MLB. This can be withheld for any reason, so most teams with a suspended coach will make do with a within team substitute. By routine, everybody approves everybody's list to start the season, but adding mid-season makes you vulnerable.

UofCSoxFan
05-26-2006, 02:20 PM
I don't think this will be a problem. I rather have this than have someone like Raines or Baines who aren't used to signally signs over there. In high school and in most college programs the head coach coaches third during the games anyways.

Iwritecode
05-26-2006, 02:55 PM
In high school and in most college programs the head coach coaches third during the games anyways.

I was just about to mention this. In the one year I played high-school baseball the head coach was at 3rd and bench player coached first.

bennyw41
05-26-2006, 03:36 PM
On Monday, Rock was coaching first. Any reason for that?

Iwritecode
05-26-2006, 03:42 PM
On Monday, Rock was coaching first. Any reason for that?

Because of the graduation of one of his children.

bennyw41
05-26-2006, 03:43 PM
Because of the graduation of one of his children.

So when Rock's kids graduate, he gets the honor of coaching first?

SoxFan64
05-26-2006, 05:15 PM
yes, and he watched the cubs' meltdown from the field, and won a ring as well in '03. man, reinsdorf hiring ozzie was the best move he's ever made as chairman.

After the hiring of KW -- you mean. :smile:

SoxFan64
05-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Because of the graduation of one of his children.

No the graduation of Baines' daughter not Raines' progeny (to keep with the large lawyer words in the thread about suspensions) :redneck