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woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 11:43 AM
I love kids. I have kids.
But please, no more kids announcing players during the game. Ever.
Leave that to the Kane County Cougars.

I appreciate the Sox wanting to appeal to kids but that bombed.
Just let Gene Honda do his phenomenal job.
Holy **** that was irritating.
:angry:

Scottiehaswheels
05-23-2006, 11:50 AM
uh I don't know how many games you go to but they do that for nearly every game?

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 11:53 AM
uh I don't know how many games you go to but they do that for nearly every game?

scottie, i've been to six this season and:

no kids on opening night
no kids 4/5 vs cleveland
no kids 4/17 vs kc
no kids 4/21 vs minne
no kids vs cubs on saturday
last night is the first i've heard it

maybe you can take it, but my question is how do we make it stop?

skottyj242
05-23-2006, 12:15 PM
maybe you can take it, but my question is how do we make it stop?


My guess is it will stop whenever White Sox Children's Charities don't need any more money.

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 12:19 PM
My guess is it will stop whenever White Sox Children's Charities don't need any more money.

thanks for the snotty answer.
didn't know this is a charity thing. doesn't change that it's annoying and out of place.

MrRoboto83
05-23-2006, 12:21 PM
I have heard the kids announce numerous times at games in the past. I think it should only be for a 1/2 inning instead of a full inning.

Bobbo35
05-23-2006, 12:22 PM
I know when I saw the Sox in Minnesota, they do that same thing. I guess it is alright, but just do it for the visiting team.

hi im skot
05-23-2006, 12:26 PM
I have heard the kids announce numerous times at games in the past. I think it should only be for a 1/2 inning instead of a full inning.

I went to Miller Park this weekend, and they also had kids announcing the players for an inning. The difference there is that they let the kids do three batters, and if the half-inning extends past that, the public address announcer takes over. But they did it for an entire inning, with two different kids (I think) for an inning.

I can assure you that their method was better than that of the Sox.

vegyrex
05-23-2006, 12:30 PM
I have no problem with it.

SweetnesSox
05-23-2006, 12:33 PM
ditto on it being okay for three batters of the visiting team. Let Gene get a bathroom break and then back to work.

LongLiveFisk
05-23-2006, 12:40 PM
I have heard the kids announce numerous times at games in the past. I think it should only be for a 1/2 inning instead of a full inning.

I can agree...let them announce the Sox players and get some applause. :D:

FWIW I thought the kid last night sounded really cute.

Cat Thief
05-23-2006, 12:44 PM
uh I don't know how many games you go to but they do that for nearly every game?

Thats not true, unless my hearing is going bad.

It don't bother me. Imagine what a thrill that is for the kids. They never had any **** like that when I was young.

jenn2080
05-23-2006, 12:45 PM
Ive been to quite a few games with the tea cups. whatever...let them do their thing. ....

Blob
05-23-2006, 01:03 PM
:rolleyes:

BainesHOF
05-23-2006, 01:04 PM
Why not let kids play in the game for an inning? Think of the thrill it would be for them!!!

Seriously, no kids announcing. It's annoying and distracting, and smacks of a minor league game.

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 01:05 PM
I think its irritating as well. I can't imagine that anyone actually LIKES it except the kids getting to do it. So we're annoying half of the stadium so a couple kids get to announce for an inning?

There are plenty of other things we can do to give the kids a thrill that don't sound like Brandon McCarthy's name shortenened to 4 letters.

Just off the top of my head, here are some other things we could have the kids do to enhance their U.S. Cellular Field experience:

10. Shine Gene Honda's shoes
9. Help Nancy in the organ booth ("Ok, Timmy, push this button and it will play na na na na")
8. Shag balls during batting practice
7. Be Hawk's bathroom attendant during the 8th inning
6. Challenge various opposing pitchers to milk-drinking contests
5. Catch squirrels
4. Reload the fireworks after homeruns
3. Go thru White Sox record books and erase any previous mention of Carl Everett
2. Help Ozney study for his algebra final
1. Three words: "Hey, beer kid!"

LongLiveFisk
05-23-2006, 01:14 PM
I'm sure adding to the aggravation of some of you was the fact that she had TOO many Oakland players to announce. That half-inning was longer than I would have liked!

chi_guy
05-23-2006, 01:21 PM
It didn't bother me too much but my 11 year old son was getting very annoyed. half an inning would have been fine.

I went to the game last Saturday and they didn't have kids announcing. Actually, yesterday was the first I heard.

Am I the only one but it seemed like I was at a Cougars game. Kids running on the field to greet the players, kids announcing the players. ***???

BainesHOF
05-23-2006, 01:21 PM
"[quote=BainesHOF]Why not let kids play in the game for an inning? Think of the thrill it would be for them!!!
quote/]

Is that supposed to be funny or just stupid sarcasm?"

I'm sure most people can figure it out.

Scottiehaswheels
05-23-2006, 01:25 PM
Man.... you people sure find some strange stuff to bitch about.... probably want to outlaw the kiss cam next to eh?

chaerulez
05-23-2006, 01:25 PM
This is much ado about nothing.

The White Sox aren't going to do away with this anytime soon it appears, so I think it's just something we have to deal with.

Cat Thief
05-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Why not let kids play in the game for an inning? Think of the thrill it would be for them!!!

Seriously, no kids announcing. It's annoying and distracting, and smacks of a minor league game.


Might as well get rid of Kid's Day, Fundamentals, all that stuff is annoying too. Lets make it like the ****hole on the North Side.

Kids announcing a couple of player is distracting? I could only imagine how that squirrel made you feel.

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 01:40 PM
Might as well get rid of Kid's Day, Fundamentals, all that stuff is annoying too. Lets make it like the ****hole on the North Side.

Kids announcing a couple of player is distracting? I could only imagine how that squirrel made you feel.

So I guess we know where Cat Theif was during that inning. Taking this mighty personal, aren't we?

Look, its simple. Gene Honda was hired for a reason. He has a smooth voice that is pleasing to the ear. Pre-pubescent boys' voices sound like live cats being fed into a sausage press. This is a valid complaint. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose and its clear that its not something people have been clamoring for so why is it being done? It's annoying. I was sitting at home and it made my skin crawl. I can only imagine how the poor people at the game felt. We're a major league franchise. We should act like it.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 01:42 PM
So I guess we know where Cat Theif was during that inning. Taking this mighty personal, aren't we?

Look, its simple. Gene Honda was hired for a reason. He has a smooth voice that is pleasing to the ear. Pre-pubescent boys' voices sound like live cats being fed into a sausage press. This is a valid complaint. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose and its clear that its not something people have been clamoring for so why is it being done? It's annoying. I was sitting at home and it made my skin crawl. I can only imagine how the poor people at the game felt. We're a major league franchise. We should act like it.

Please. Practically every major league team has kids announce the batters at some point in the game. The sound of young boys honestly makes your skin crawl?

:rolleyes:

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 01:49 PM
I think it's amusing that everyone loves the 1/2-priced Monday concept, but hates kids getting to announce the players and be on the field. I'm willing to bet you'll see more of this on 1/2-priced Monday, not less.

The White Sox have ALWAYS positioned the 1/2-priced promotion as being family friendly. Perhaps they're finally getting serious about making Mondays more attractive for the cash-strapped families they're trying to attract and not the people these Monday games are notorious for attracting: teenagers/young adults looking to get smashed with the extra $ they saved on admission.

(You might know two of them near me last night were screaming "Frank Thomas is a piece of ****!" over and over again, and then looking around to gather all the approving smiles they were sure they would get -- too bad a boy no older than 6 was sitting directly in front of them. Sox Security escorted them away.)

If it means the clods like the two I just mentioned no longer feel welcome, I would not only favor kids doing all the announcing on 1/2-priced Monday, I would also cut off beer sales in the third inning -- or maybe no beer at all. Now THAT would be family-friendly.

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 02:05 PM
Sox have given kids a whole fundamentals multi tier deck on the concourse and make the park no smoking, why not just make it a "only kids attendence day" while we're doin this.

Gene gets paid good money, let him do his job. What will be next, should we give kids a chance to do PBP?

Scottiehaswheels
05-23-2006, 02:10 PM
What will be next, should we give kids a chance to do PBP?Can't do any worse than Singleton/Farmer! Actually I think Singleton has gotten a gazillion times better than during ST but....

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 02:11 PM
Sox have given kids a whole fundamentals multi tier deck on the concourse and make the park no smoking, why not just make it a "only kids attendence day" while we're doin this.

Gene gets paid good money, let him do his job. What will be next, should we give kids a chance to do PBP?

Yes, kids will do PBP, run the concession stands and upon entering the gate, each paying adult will be issued a child that they are responsible for the rest of the game.

Gimmie a break. What do you want, adults-only day? Think of the possibilities! Smoking in the seats, ten cigs at a time! Every other word a swear! Pornos on the video board!

:rolleyes:

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 02:12 PM
Might as well get rid of Kid's Day, Fundamentals, all that stuff is annoying too. Lets make it like the ****hole on the North Side.

Kids announcing a couple of player is distracting? I could only imagine how that squirrel made you feel.

Good point: No squirrels either!!
How did that thing get onto the field? One of those kids let it on before the game.

Jerko
05-23-2006, 02:21 PM
As for the announcing, if they limit the kid to half an inning, I don't see the harm. But, there's no way to please everybody. Some people go to games and don't want to have 100 kids up their ass, some people go to games with their kids and don't want to be near a bunch of drunk people who are yelling MORE COWBELL all night. :wink:.

There are days that I want to sit there and have a few beers and my buddies bring thier kids. I don't tell them to leave the kids at home and they don't tell me not to have a beer or 6. Maybe the whole right field side should be adults only since that's where the bars are, and the left field side could be the "family area" because that's where fundamental deck is. As long as the Sox win I don't really notice or care about what else is going on at the park.

chi_guy
05-23-2006, 02:32 PM
Kids announcing: It sounded very minor leagueish...

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 02:39 PM
I think it's amusing that everyone loves the 1/2-priced Monday concept, but hates kids getting to announce the players and be on the field. I'm willing to bet you'll see more of this on 1/2-priced Monday, not less.

The White Sox have ALWAYS positioned the 1/2-priced promotion as being family friendly. Perhaps they're finally getting serious about making Mondays more attractive for the cash-strapped families they're trying to attract and not the people these Monday games are notorious for attracting: teenagers/young adults looking to get smashed with the extra $ they saved on admission.

(You might know two of them near me last night were screaming "Frank Thomas is a piece of ****!" over and over again, and then looking around to gather all the approving smiles they were sure they would get -- too bad a boy no older than 6 was sitting directly in front of them. Sox Security escorted them away.)

If it means the clods like the two I just mentioned no longer feel welcome, I would not only favor kids doing all the announcing on 1/2-priced Monday, I would also cut off beer sales in the third inning -- or maybe no beer at all. Now THAT would be family-friendly.

seeing kids at the games is great.

1/2 monday is great (tho yes, lots of ****-faced drunk late-teen/early 20s at last nite's game. i never drank at old comiskey at that age. i think i was across the street at mccuddy's)

and no, knee-jerkers, we don't need to remove the fundamentals deck.

adult night is not a bad idea. think of it like adult swim at the pool or sunday school at church. and bring back cigars at the ballpark? love that! porn might be over the top -- depending on what kind of porn: no animals or anything like that.

but seriously where do you draw the line? for a lot of folks, with this announcing-thing, it's been crossed.

Cat Thief
05-23-2006, 02:51 PM
So I guess we know where Cat Theif was during that inning. Taking this mighty personal, aren't we?



Where was I during what inning? Ah, whatever.

I'm actually sorry for even getting involved in this thread. I didn't mean to offend anyone.

I like seeing the kids get involved at the park. Hopefully some of the experiences they have at US Cellular while they are young will stay in their heads and turn them into loyal fans for the rest of their lives. That is what happened to me thru the White Sox Straight A/Perfect attendance thing when I was young. The White Sox trying to attract kids is nothing new and I think they do a great job.

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 02:53 PM
but seriously where do you draw the line? for a lot of folks, with this announcing-thing, it's been crossed.

"Adults-only Porn Tuesdays" definitely has marketing possibilities. The Sox could probably get a sellout even while tripling the price of admission. They'll more than make up the lost revenue from 1/2-priced Monday, too.

:cool:

bigsqwert
05-23-2006, 03:11 PM
I have no problem with it.

I am still shaking with anger over this debacle.

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 03:11 PM
If it means the clods like the two I just mentioned no longer feel welcome, I would not only favor kids doing all the announcing on 1/2-priced Monday, I would also cut off beer sales in the third inning -- or maybe no beer at all. Now THAT would be family-friendly.

Certainly a journalist as yourself must know the difference between a fallacious argument and an argument built on sound reasoning. Let's disect this reply shall we?

Equivocation, changing the subject
I think it's amusing that everyone loves the 1/2-priced Monday concept, but hates kids getting to announce the players and be on the field. I'm willing to bet you'll see more of this on 1/2-priced Monday, not less.

Did anyone in the Cell even know that a kid would be announcing an inning? Was it announced prior to the game? Is that why anyone was there? To hear kids announce? I hadn't heard anything, had you? It wasn't a promotion like "first 10,000 kids get to meet Gene Honda". It was a couple kids hand picked to do it. That's not a promotion. It's a gimmic.

Appeal to pity, confusing correlation
The White Sox have ALWAYS positioned the 1/2-priced promotion as being family friendly. Perhaps they're finally getting serious about making Mondays more attractive for the cash-strapped families they're trying to attract and not the people these Monday games are notorious for attracting: teenagers/young adults looking to get smashed with the extra $ they saved on admission.

First of all, this isn't an argument about the 1/2 price promotion. Let's limit what we're talking about to the subject. I would certainly agree that the 1/2 price promotion is family friendly. It's everyone-friendly. Who doesn't want a ticket at half price? But has anyone who said they didn't like the kids in the PA booth said they don't want kids in the stadium? No. All they and I have said is that we find the voices of young boys to be hard on the ears. At 100 decibles, a 8 year old boy's voice is rather shrill. And what do drunk people in the stands have to do with one man's preference to Gene Honda's voice? Honda is a professional. It's what he does for a living. Why wouldn't we prefer him? We don't have a choice between drunkards and kids in the PA booth. It's not an 'either/or'.

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 03:13 PM
Can't do any worse than Singleton/Farmer! Actually I think Singleton has gotten a gazillion times better than during ST but....

Granted singleton isnt on tv, he's lightyears beyond the BSU boom goes the dynamite guy

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 03:13 PM
"Adults-only Porn Tuesdays" definitely has marketing possibilities. The Sox could probably get a sellout even while tripling the price of admission. They'll more than make up the lost revenue from 1/2-priced Monday, too.

:cool:

The opposite of having kids do PA announcing is not porn. It is NOT having kids do PA announcing.

Why is everyone taking this so personally?

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 03:13 PM
"Adults-only Porn Tuesdays" definitely has marketing possibilities. The Sox could probably get a sellout even while tripling the price of admission. They'll more than make up the lost revenue from 1/2-priced Monday, too.

:cool:

maybe pepsi would sponsor it.
no.
maybe miller?

kninchicago
05-23-2006, 03:14 PM
Isn't the kids announcing thing part of the "fantasy experiences" the park offers?

Meaning some adult paid big bucks to have their kid announce?

I've been to the park twice when kids announced. The first time, it was awesome, cause you could totally see Gene on the jumbotron telling the kid when to talk. Gene rocks.

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 03:14 PM
Yes, kids will do PBP, run the concession stands and upon entering the gate, each paying adult will be issued a child that they are responsible for the rest of the game.

Gimmie a break. What do you want, adults-only day? Think of the possibilities! Smoking in the seats, ten cigs at a time! Every other word a swear! Pornos on the video board!

:rolleyes:

Hey, i never announced a player name nor had the chance and i turned out ok. I wasnt crying in my iced cream cuz i couldnt be a big boy like the public announcer who's name i wouldnt even know when i was that old

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 03:15 PM
Certainly a journalist as yourself must know the difference between a fallacious argument and an argument built on sound reasoning. Let's disect this reply shall we?....

Save yourself the trouble. Here's my point: the White Sox want Monday 1/2-price nights to build up the fan base with families. Anyone who doesn't like kids doing the announcing on Mondays doesn't fit with the target the Sox have identified for the 1/2-price promotion.

So stay away. Nobody will care. The games are sellouts, with you or without you.

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 03:15 PM
Good point: No squirrels either!!
How did that thing get onto the field? One of those kids let it on before the game.

No the squirrel and bird on the field was funny, plus a nice distraction from watchin the Thomas Homer. You cant control nature, plus squirrels are cute

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 03:18 PM
Certainly a journalist as yourself must know the difference between a fallacious argument and an argument built on sound reasoning. Let's disect this reply shall we?

Equivocation, changing the subject


Did anyone in the Cell even know that a kid would be announcing an inning? Was it announced prior to the game? Is that why anyone was there? To hear kids announce? I hadn't heard anything, had you? It wasn't a promotion like "first 10,000 kids get to meet Gene Honda". It was a couple kids hand picked to do it. That's not a promotion. It's a gimmic.

Appeal to pity, confusing correlation

First of all, this isn't an argument about the 1/2 price promotion. Let's limit what we're talking about to the subject. I would certainly agree that the 1/2 price promotion is family friendly. It's everyone-friendly. Who doesn't want a ticket at half price? But has anyone who said they didn't like the kids in the PA booth said they don't want kids in the stadium? No. All they and I have said is that we find the voices of young boys to be hard on the ears. At 100 decibles, a 8 year old boy's voice is rather shrill. And what do drunk people in the stands have to do with one man's preference to Gene Honda's voice? Honda is a professional. It's what he does for a living. Why wouldn't we prefer him? We don't have a choice between drunkards and kids in the PA booth. It's not an 'either/or'.

wow! extremely well put.

you used...what is that word?

logic!

:smile:

BainesHOF
05-23-2006, 03:20 PM
First of all, this isn't an argument about the 1/2 price promotion. Let's limit what we're talking about to the subject. I would certainly agree that the 1/2 price promotion is family friendly. It's everyone-friendly. Who doesn't want a ticket at half price? But has anyone who said they didn't like the kids in the PA booth said they don't want kids in the stadium? No. All they and I have said is that we find the voices of young boys to be hard on the ears. At 100 decibles, a 8 year old boy's voice is rather shrill. And what do drunk people in the stands have to do with one man's preference to Gene Honda's voice? Honda is a professional. It's what he does for a living. Why wouldn't we prefer him? We don't have a choice between drunkards and kids in the PA booth. It's not an 'either/or'.

Bingo!

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 03:21 PM
Save yourself the trouble. Here's my point: the White Sox want Monday 1/2-price nights to build up the fan base with families. Anyone who doesn't like kids doing the announcing on Mondays doesn't fit with the target the Sox have identified for the 1/2-price promotion.

So stay away. Nobody will care. The games are sellouts, with you or without you.

The half price promotion is not just for famlies, its for people who didnt wanna pay alot to come to the game, esp when the attendence was dwindling and we needed every seat, same with the pepsi half off tuesdays. I loved that i could walk on up monday or tuesday and be able to get a cheap good seat.

Then again, if this was a "pay for" promotion, it annoys me even more cuz its some rich daddy showing how much he can buy his kids' love by buying him an announcing job for a batter

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 03:25 PM
First of all, this isn't an argument about the 1/2 price promotion. Let's limit what we're talking about to the subject. I would certainly agree that the 1/2 price promotion is family friendly. It's everyone-friendly. Who doesn't want a ticket at half price? But has anyone who said they didn't like the kids in the PA booth said they don't want kids in the stadium? No. All they and I have said is that we find the voices of young boys to be hard on the ears. At 100 decibles, a 8 year old boy's voice is rather shrill. And what do drunk people in the stands have to do with one man's preference to Gene Honda's voice? Honda is a professional. It's what he does for a living. Why wouldn't we prefer him? We don't have a choice between drunkards and kids in the PA booth. It's not an 'either/or'.

Have to note: I didnt hear the kid announcing but i think its still miles beyond better than the announcer for miami heat and pistons game
"Yes im gonna be stuttering and shouting chauncey billups' last name as the bulls are already setting up a play and even shootin the basket"

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 03:27 PM
The half price promotion is not just for famlies, its for people who didnt wanna pay alot to come to the game, esp when the attendence was dwindling and we needed every seat, same with the pepsi half off tuesdays. I loved that i could walk on up monday or tuesday and be able to get a cheap good seat...

Sure, lots of people want to get in cheap. Who wouldn't? The point is the Sox are dropping the price for a specific reason. Mondays (and to lesser extent Tuesdays) were traditionally poorly attended nights. If the Sox must cut prices to draw fans for these dates, they're at least smart enough to cut the price for the fans they know will pay off the biggest in the long run: families with young kids.

If you want to complain about amenities while paying full price, be my guest. However whining about the stadium announcers while getting in for 1/2-priced smacks just a bit too much of looking a gift horse in the mouth.

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 03:33 PM
No the squirrel and bird on the field was funny, plus a nice distraction from watchin the Thomas Homer. You cant control nature, plus squirrels are cute

Yes, excellent: A squirrel promotion!
Squirrels are cute. Kids love 'em.
Bring a squirrel to the park. We do it with dogs right? But as we saw, squirrels won't sit or stay. And you can barely see them pooping on the warning track.

Or am I missing the point? We want to encourage squirrels to come? We're already selling peanuts. But even at half-price, squirrels have no money to buy peanuts -- even outside that park where it's cheaper.

Wait. I thought we were talking about attracting families and kids and supporting charities, but just doing away with kids announcing live at professional, major league games?

Oh, my head hurts.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 03:35 PM
I am still shaking with anger over this debacle.

:tealpolice:

And if a call isn't warranted, all I can say is :rolleyes: .

SouthSide_HitMen
05-23-2006, 03:37 PM
The kids sound better than Tom Shear. :redneck

It's one inning people. The cause is a good one (White Sox charities). I found listening to Hanson http://snoot.org/i/wuss/hanson.jpg


before the game (instead of Nancy) much more offensive.

The Cubs promote a beer garden, have no kids fan club and do little to nothing to control their drunken angry mob.

The White Sox are committed to running a family friendly organization, still offer 1/2 price Mondays and $1 Kids Sunday when they really don't have to (post World Series), have a beefed up security force to deal with idiots like PHG pointed out and is a much better environment for both children and adults who do not want to put up with drunken frat boys and trixies throwing baseballs at players.

If listening to a child having the time of their life announcing a few batters is the worst thing you encounter at a ballgame consider yourself lucky.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 03:39 PM
I wasnt crying in my iced cream cuz i couldnt be a big boy like the public announcer who's name i wouldnt even know when i was that old

Yes, this is the reaction had by all children that don't get to announce.

:rolleyes:

I'm a bit amazed with those that feel kids announcing batters is one of the greatest Crimes against all Humanity.

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 03:39 PM
The kids sound better than Tom Shear. :redneck


completely true. and tom shear got paid.

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 03:40 PM
I have been to two Brewer games this year and a handful last year. They have had a kid announcing for an inning for at least a year. At a Sunday Brewer game this year, they had kids in the positions as the guys were taking the field. The only thought I have had about these two gimmicks is:

Thank god the Sox don't do this.

:(: I guess I spoke too soon. The announcing annoys me, but the kids for the opening really irritated me. We have a kick ass intro, but now we have a girl in pink dancing to Thunderstruck at first base? Get the **** out of here...

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 03:46 PM
wow! extremely well put.

you used...what is that word?

logic!

:smile:

Here's some logic:

1) Nobody is going to NOT go to a game because they hate the sound of kids for an inning. Seriously, who would say "Well, ****, I really wanted to go to that game, but damn that Kid saying a players name, number, and position 5 or 6 times is really annoying".

2) If a family takes their kids for the first time (or even repeated times) on half price monday because it's when parents can afford to bring their kids to games, and they go to the fundamentals deck and hear kids announcing on the PA, they get a sense that the park is a lot more family friendly then they might have thought. It is not inconceivable that they would tell friends/families about what a good time they had. That COULD increase the fan base/sales. Those parents might even have enjoyed it so much, they will stretch the pocketbook to go to a full price game or two in the future.

There aren't all that many places where younger kids are openly welcomed that parents also really enjoy the product being presented. An atmosphere where kids hear people their age on the PA system can only help kids enjoy it more, which makes them want to go, and their parents more willing to take their kids there than say a disney cartoon movie that the parents won't enjoy as much as a baseball game.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 03:47 PM
:(: I guess I spoke too soon. The announcing annoys me, but the kids for the opening really irritated me. We have a kick ass intro, but now we have a girl in pink dancing to Thunderstruck at first base? Get the **** out of here...

I believe the Sox do the kids on the field thing every Monday. It is part of a promotion through Motorola. There are only six Monday games all year so it really isn't that big a deal. If I was that age, I would love to be able to stand on the field and get an autographed ball.

On a similar note, the Sox should get rid of the Seniors Run The Bases promotion. Get those geezers out of there!

:redneck

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 03:50 PM
I believe the Sox do the kids on the field thing every Monday. It is part of a promotion through Motorola. There are only six Monday games all year so it really isn't that big a deal. If I was that age, I would love to be able to stand on the field and get an autographed ball.

On a similar note, the Sox should get rid of the Seniors Run The Bases promotion. Get those geezers out of there!

:redneck
Whew. I was hoping that this was not an everyday occurance. Before last night, I hadn't been to a game since the ring ceremony.

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 03:52 PM
Here's some logic:

1) Nobody is going to NOT go to a game because they hate the sound of kids for an inning. Seriously, who would say "Well, ****, I really wanted to go to that game, but damn that Kid saying a players name, number, and position 5 or 6 times is really annoying".

2) If a family takes their kids for the first time (or even repeated times) on half price monday because it's when parents can afford to bring their kids to games, and they go to the fundamentals deck and hear kids announcing on the PA, they get a sense that the park is a lot more family friendly then they might have thought. It is not inconceivable that they would tell friends/families about what a good time they had. That COULD increase the fan base/sales. Those parents might even have enjoyed it so much, they will stretch the pocketbook to go to a full price game or two in the future.

There aren't all that many places where younger kids are openly welcomed that parents also really enjoy the product being presented. An atmosphere where kids hear people their age on the PA system can only help kids enjoy it more, which makes them want to go, and their parents more willing to take their kids there than say a disney cartoon movie that the parents won't enjoy as much as a baseball game.


I was agreeing with him.
And you.

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 03:55 PM
Whew. I was hoping that this was not an everyday occurance. Before last night, I hadn't been to a game since the ring ceremony.

So we're in agreement: Seniors are out!

:tongue:

SouthSide_HitMen
05-23-2006, 03:56 PM
Here's some logic:

1) Nobody is going to NOT go to a game because they hate the sound of kids for an inning. Seriously, who would say "Well, ****, I really wanted to go to that game, but damn that Kid saying a players name, number, and position 5 or 6 times is really annoying".

2) If a family takes their kids for the first time (or even repeated times) on half price monday because it's when parents can afford to bring their kids to games, and they go to the fundamentals deck and hear kids announcing on the PA, they get a sense that the park is a lot more family friendly then they might have thought. It is not inconceivable that they would tell friends/families about what a good time they had. That COULD increase the fan base/sales. Those parents might even have enjoyed it so much, they will stretch the pocketbook to go to a full price game or two in the future.

There aren't all that many places where younger kids are openly welcomed that parents also really enjoy the product being presented. An atmosphere where kids hear people their age on the PA system can only help kids enjoy it more, which makes them want to go, and their parents more willing to take their kids there than say a disney cartoon movie that the parents won't enjoy as much as a baseball game.

Great comments. :thumbsup:

Palehose13 - I've seen the children take the field at many parks (outside of Milwaukee and Chicago) and this mirrors the four or five adult males / females trotting to the mound for the numerous ceremonial first pitches sponsored by (insert corporation). The kids have a memory they will never forget - getting a signed ball by a player on the field before the game - and is one of many kid friendly activities the White Sox have planned to create White Sox fans for life. I wouldn't mind the team doing this and the announcing everygame but we will have to agree to disagree.

I've ripped on Brooks re: Nancy & Singleton but I think most of his marketing ideas are great carrying out family friendly policies Jerry Reinsdorf & Eddie Einhorn instituted when they took over. The Sunshine Boys shot themselves in the foot initially (SportsVision / WFLD) but I think they are making up for lost time and the White Sox can reclaim the city with forward thinking policies like these as well as a few World Championships.

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 03:56 PM
So we're in agreement: Seniors are out!

:tongue:

Yes, but are seniors invited to attend Triple-Priced Tuesday Night Porn?
:redneck

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm in marketing (clearly not doing much work this hour) and since you never know what the public is going to react favorably to, you try a lot of things.

These Sox promotions did NOT work:
Sticky seat night
Set under a seagull night
Get a free piece of that crappy gum that comes with baseball cards
Win Tommy Lasorda's pre-Slimfast pants
Get a Ticket stub night
Get hit in the face by a 90-mph fast ball
Completely obstructed seating day
Shoeless Joe's last surviving hooker gives you the opportunity to catch the Clap night
Bring your squirrel to the park night

Have a kid announce an inning just doesn't work.

*some thanks to letterman show

spiffie
05-23-2006, 04:00 PM
Sure, lots of people want to get in cheap. Who wouldn't? The point is the Sox are dropping the price for a specific reason. Mondays (and to lesser extent Tuesdays) were traditionally poorly attended nights. If the Sox must cut prices to draw fans for these dates, they're at least smart enough to cut the price for the fans they know will pay off the biggest in the long run: families with young kids.

If you want to complain about amenities while paying full price, be my guest. However whining about the stadium announcers while getting in for 1/2-priced smacks just a bit too much of looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Can I complain about the PA announcing by kids when its done on weekends and I've paid premium prices?

I just wonder how long until you get people complaining that their kid doesn't get to go up and do announcing and then we end up with a 34-part story in the Trib about how unfriendly to families the White Sox organization is and how these kids would be much happier taking in the majesty of Wrigley Field.

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 04:02 PM
Great comments. :thumbsup:

Palehose13 - I've seen the children take the field at many parks (outside of Milwaukee and Chicago) and this mirrors the four or five adult males / females trotting to the mound for the numerous ceremonial first pitches sponsored by (insert corporation). The kids have a memory they will never forget - getting a signed ball by a player on the field before the game - and is one of many kid friendly activities the White Sox have planned to create White Sox fans for life. I wouldn't mind the team doing this and the announcing everygame but we will have to agree to disagree.


Meh, I hate kids. I have no problem admitting that.

In regards to the seniors, I think we should have no senior stuff. I think they would appreciate it more than the kids. Hell, I think I would appreciate this stuff more than the kids. They are like 7 years old...they have no idea of the magnitude of what they are doing. Let someone do it who will really appreciate it...me. :cool:

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Can I complain about the PA announcing by kids when its done on weekends and I've paid premium prices?

I just wonder how long until you get people complaining that their kid doesn't get to go up and do announcing and then we end up with a 34-part story in the Trib about how unfriendly to families the White Sox organization is and how these kids would be much happier taking in the majesty of Wrigley Field.

You and woodsdavid should email Brooks.

:cool:

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 04:04 PM
Yes, but are seniors invited to attend Triple-Priced Tuesday Night Porn?
:redneck

Of course! I would expect the park to be full of creepy old men in trenchcoats.:redneck

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 04:05 PM
I've seen the children take the field at many parks (outside of Milwaukee and Chicago) and this mirrors the four or five adult males / females trotting to the mound for the numerous ceremonial first pitches sponsored by (insert corporation). The kids have a memory they will never forget - getting a signed ball by a player on the field before the game - and is one of many kid friendly activities the White Sox have planned to create White Sox fans for life.

I like this gimmic. There's no harm in having the kids run out there. It doesn't distract from the game. I agree completely. Seriously my only problem with kids announcing is that they all sound like nails on a chalkboard... I've heard it at several stadiums (ours, comerica, metrodome, anaheim) and I always just cringe. I see from this thread that I'm not alone.

spiffie
05-23-2006, 04:07 PM
You and woodsdavid should email Brooks.

:cool:
Do you have his email address? I can't find it anywhere on this site.

I was at the game last night, and the only reason it annoyed me was because the kid was up there so long I thought he was going to have his voice change by the time that damn inning was over.

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 04:10 PM
I was agreeing with him.
And you.

Well then I think either you or I are confused with what GregoryEtc was trying to say. It seems to me he has been arguing against having kids announce the players while I was arguing in favor of it.

Look, its simple. Gene Honda was hired for a reason. He has a smooth voice that is pleasing to the ear. Pre-pubescent boys' voices sound like live cats being fed into a sausage press. This is a valid complaint. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose and its clear that its not something people have been clamoring for so why is it being done? It's annoying. I was sitting at home and it made my skin crawl. I can only imagine how the poor people at the game felt. We're a major league franchise. We should act like it.

His argument you quoted seems to say to me that he thinks that having kids announce the game will not bring in more people:

[quote=GregoryEtc}Did anyone in the Cell even know that a kid would be announcing an inning? Was it announced prior to the game? Is that why anyone was there? To hear kids announce? I hadn't heard anything, had you? It wasn't a promotion like "first 10,000 kids get to meet Gene Honda". It was a couple kids hand picked to do it. That's not a promotion. It's a gimmic.[/quote]

However, I was simply stating that it isn't about the draw of a promotion, it's about creating an environment. It has less to do with the experience for the kids actually reading the thing than the kids in the stands who hear somebody their age over the PA and feel more welcome. I don't see how you could agree with both of us, as I certainly wasn't agreeing with him.

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 04:10 PM
I was at the game last night, and the only reason it annoyed me was because the kid was up there so long I thought he was going to have his voice change by the time that damn inning was over.

Just as I suspected! The problem is having the kids announce when Garland is pitching!!!

:wink:

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Do you have his email address? I can't find it anywhere on this site.

I was at the game last night, and the only reason it annoyed me was because the kid was up there so long I thought he was going to have his voice change by the time that damn inning was over.
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"Now batting, number 22.... Scott Pos- Podnesi- Podest- The left fielder!"

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Of course! I would expect the park to be full of creepy old men in trenchcoats.:redneck

This is the only time I think the last row of the upperdeck would be the most desireable - I certainly don't want anything hitting the back of my neck!

GregoryEtc
05-23-2006, 04:15 PM
This is the only time I think the last row of the upperdeck would be the most desireable - I certainly don't want anything hitting the back of my neck!

"Careful, Dane. Careful!"

woodsdavid
05-23-2006, 04:18 PM
This is the only time I think the last row of the upperdeck would be the most desireable - I certainly don't want anything hitting the back of my neck!

Hmmm...you were at that ill-conceived seagull promotion weren't you.

vegyrex
05-23-2006, 04:21 PM
So I guess we know where Cat Theif was during that inning. Taking this mighty personal, aren't we?

Look, its simple. Gene Honda was hired for a reason. He has a smooth voice that is pleasing to the ear. Pre-pubescent boys' voices sound like live cats being fed into a sausage press. This is a valid complaint. It doesn't seem to serve any purpose and its clear that its not something people have been clamoring for so why is it being done? It's annoying. I was sitting at home and it made my skin crawl. I can only imagine how the poor people at the game felt. We're a major league franchise. We should act like it.
Back in 1990 at the first "turn back the clock" game. A groups of kids started a cheer for Ozzie. They clapped hands and said "Ozzie, Ozzie" Then some jamoke yells "Shut up already!"

What harm did this do? Those kids did shut up. It was sad to see their enthusiasm for the game and for Ozzie get stiffled that way.

I'd rather hear kids at the game than some drunk clown yelling "YOU SUCK!" all night.

bigsqwert
05-23-2006, 04:27 PM
I'd rather hear kids at the game than some drunk clown yelling "YOU SUCK!" all night.

As a member of D.C.A. (Drunk Clowns of America) I find your comment insulting.

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 04:29 PM
Back in 1990 at the first "turn back the clock" game. A groups of kids started a cheer for Ozzie. They clapped hands and said "Ozzie, Ozzie" Then some jamoke yells "Shut up already!"

What harm did this do? Those kids did shut up. It was sad to see their enthusiasm for the game and for Ozzie get stiffled that way.

I'd rather hear kids at the game than some drunk clown yelling "YOU SUCK!" all night.

Why does it have to be one way or the other? I'm not an ADD kid (nor do I have any) that needs constant stimulation during the game otherwise I am going to annoy all around me, nor am I a drunk that feel the needs to yell swear words at the players all night.

I am what I would like to think of as a "typical" fan...probably one of 25K of 38K last night. I go with other adults. I have a beer or two, but know when to say when, and I like to enjoy a good game. I don't want to feel like I am at kiddieland, nor do I want to feel like I am at the drunk tank in lock up.

Why can't the Sox cater to the "average" fan? What about us? Heck, I spend 10% of my income on the White Sox through tickets, etc. Why can't I announce the players or stand on the infield to greet the guys, or even run the bases after a game one day? Ok, no seriously...why can't they have a day or two where season ticket holders can run the bases like the kids do. :(:

PaleHoseGeorge
05-23-2006, 04:29 PM
Back in 1990 at the first "turn back the clock" game. A groups of kids started a cheer for Ozzie. They clapped hands and said "Ozzie, Ozzie" Then some jamoke yells "Shut up already!"

What harm did this do? Those kids did shut up. It was sad to see their enthusiasm for the game and for Ozzie get stiffled that way.

Wow. That was 16 years ago. I guess you're still emotionally scarred from the experience?

:wink:

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 04:35 PM
Why does it have to be one way or the other? I'm not an ADD kid (nor do I have any) that needs constant stimulation during the game otherwise I am going to annoy all around me, nor am I a drunk that feel the needs to yell swear words at the players all night.

I am what I would like to think of as a "typical" fan...probably one of 25K of 38K last night. I go with other adults. I have a beer or two, but know when to say when, and I like to enjoy a good game. I don't want to feel like I am at kiddieland, nor do I want to feel like I am at the drunk tank in lock up.

Why can't the Sox cater to the "average" fan? What about us? Heck, I spend 10% of my income on the White Sox through tickets, etc. Why can't I announce the players or stand on the infield to greet the guys, or even run the bases after a game one day? Ok, no seriously...why can't they have a day or two where season ticket holders can run the bases like the kids do. :(:

But the "average" fan is exactly who these promotions are NOT aimed it. The average fan will show up to games without needing some promo to get them in the door. Same deal with season ticket holders. The Sox certainly want to keep these people happy but don't need to go out of their way to attract them.

If we assume 20,000 season tickets and another 8,000 "average" fans that show up to games, that leaves 12,000 tickets per game that the Sox are trying to move. The Sox are trying to sell an "experience" to people buying these tickets.

That being said, I would like to run the bases as well.:D:

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 04:38 PM
But the "average" fan is exactly who these promotions are NOT aimed it. The average fan will show up to games without needing some promo to get them in the door. Same deal with season ticket holders. The Sox certainly want to keep these people happy but don't need to go out of their way to attract them.

If we assume 20,000 season tickets and another 8,000 "average" fans that show up to games, that leaves 12,000 tickets per game that the Sox are trying to move. The Sox are trying to sell an "experience" to people buying these tickets.

That being said, I would like to run the bases as well.:D:

:(:
I never get to do the fun stuff! :whiner:

Hell, I can't even buy a raffle ticket for a ring!

*edit: But seriously, I bring people to the game from Milwaukee all the time and they enjoy themselves and want to go back again. Is there a way to try and get the thirty/forty something fan (without kids) in the gates who normally don't think of going to baseball games? You know, we got $$$ to drop since we don't have kids. Why do we always have to focus on snot-nosed brats and the over the hill crowd?!?!?!

soxfan1983
05-23-2006, 04:45 PM
here is a funny story.... has to do with kids day on April 23rd.
we were in the upper deck (ugh) and right after the first pitch they had a kid on the screen with a microphone and he goes "play ball!" the kid had to be like 10 or 11. I was already annoyed with all the kids around me in the upper deck and I was already kind of drunk and I leaned over and said to my friend "that kid needs to be punched"..... just joking around. well 3 innings into the game we hear the kids behind us start talking all excitedly. turns out the kid who was on the screen was sitting behind us! and just got back to his seat! not only was I shocked that this kid was sitting behind me (honestly what are the chances of that at an almost sold out crowd), I then realized that I think his dad was sitting behind me and definitely had to have heard me say his son needed to be punched. for about an inning and a half I couldn’t stop laughing about it
:gulp:

The Wimperoo
05-23-2006, 04:46 PM
:(:
I never get to do the fun stuff! :whiner:

Hell, I can't even buy a raffle ticket for a ring!

*edit: But seriously, I bring people to the game from Milwaukee all the time and they enjoy themselves and want to go back again. Is there a way to try and get the thirty/forty something fan (without kids) in the gates who normally don't think of going to baseball games? You know, we got $$$ to drop since we don't have kids. Why do we always have to focus on snot-nosed brats and the over the hill crowd?!?!?!

You could have bought one at the game last night. They are on sale online for Illinois residents only or at the ballpark for anyone.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/fan_forum/forms/ring_raffle_rules.jsp

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 04:49 PM
You could have bought one at the game last night. They are on sale online for Illinois residents only or at the ballpark for anyone.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/fan_forum/forms/ring_raffle_rules.jsp

Right on! Did not know that. I will have to buy one or two at the next game.

That's what I get for being focused on the game. :wink:

itsnotrequired
05-23-2006, 05:16 PM
Right on! Did not know that. I will have to buy one or two at the next game.

That's what I get for being focused on the game. :wink:

A promotion aimed toward the die-hards and you don't even partake. What will it take to make you fans happy?

:D:

monkeypants
05-23-2006, 07:43 PM
Nay on children announcing.

There's a reason why the dulcet tones of Gene Honda's voice announces the players. Because he's a paid professional and good at his job. Leave the shrill yelling of a 10 year old for the playgrounds not for a major league baseball team. Going to a ballgame is special enough for a kid, do they really need to announce also?

How are these kids picked anyways? Are they just randomly chosen from that day's crowd or does lil' Danny Berstein's dad pony up enough money at an auction so his kid could pretend to be a grownup?

Yes, I am the oldest 30 year old in the world.

Realist
05-23-2006, 07:58 PM
The people bitching about little ones announcing a half inning of a game a few times a year would be better off bouncing up and down on their asses in a hot soapy bath. That's probably the best way to get the sand out.

Palehose13
05-23-2006, 07:59 PM
The people bitching about little ones announcing a half inning of a game a few times a year would be better off bouncing up and down on their asses in a hot soapy bath. That's probably the best way to get the sand out.

That sounds like a blast! Which bubble bath do you recommend? :D:

TornLabrum
05-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Those were kids announcing? I thought Gene was breathing helium! What a relief!

LongLiveFisk
05-23-2006, 08:09 PM
Those were kids announcing? I thought Gene was breathing helium! What a relief!

And I thought it was a little girl, however some people are saying it was actually a little boy.

Sorry, kid. :redface: