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Jjav829
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
PABLO!!!:bandance:

BeviBall!
05-22-2006, 10:14 PM
****ty band, awesome baseball play!!! (Squeeze, that is.)

ondafarm
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Safety squeeze, I love it !!!!

JUribe1989
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Pablo = CLUTCH! DJ called that **** right there.

34rancher
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
wow!!! Are You Kidding Me??? Pablo Ozuna!!!

drewcifer
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
PABLO!!!:bandance:

YES! Again....

That was just awesome.

"I love when a plan comes together"

JUribe1989
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Mackowiak PTC, gotta be!

What a job by Mack-whack-tally-whack!

rightsox
05-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Absolutely ****ing beautiful! I love this team!

BeviBall!
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
BTW, is this not the perfect night? Frank goes crazy and the Sox still win!

Props to the pen who also redeemed themselves tonight.

whitesoxfan
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
What a way to end it!

Saracen
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Ozuna for mayor!!! :gulp:

darklord23
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
That was intense. I love ozzie ball. :supernana:

ShoelessJoeS
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Wow, what a ****in' game that was. Down 4-0 against a tough Zito, get to the 'pen and win it.

AJ and Pablo contributed down the stretch, but Mack had the hit of the game!

:bandance: :gulp: :bandance:

krohnjw
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
DJ did call it! Great execution by Pablo to get a good bunt down and force the play (and to think I was cursing Ozzie putting him out there after the left field gaffe :rolleyes: ).

RKMeibalane
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Best game of the season so far! Wow!

drewcifer
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Pablo = CLUTCH! DJ called that **** right there.

Yeah he did! I heard Farmer call it first though... Radio comes through faster than video on MLB TV...

Incredible.

SOecks
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
Holy crap, I didn't know the Sox were allowed to come back from behind against the A's :tongue:. Great game by Ozuna and Mack. What an exciting game. Glad to see Frank do really well (in a loss of course). Perfect.

patbooyah
05-22-2006, 10:16 PM
THAT'S A BOY, BILLY GOAT!

:ozuna:

"I beat it by the hair on my chinny chin chin!"

stl_sox_fan
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Highlights better be next on SportsCenter.....<teal>after the Sawks-Yanks highlights of course.</teal>

slobes
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
I am actually sweating from jumping up and down.

PABLO FREAKING OZUNA.

haganaga
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
just got home & missed it. how many out when the squeeze was on?

thomas35forever
05-22-2006, 10:17 PM
What a perfect night for Sox fans! Frank hits two, Rob washes 'em out, and Pablo wins the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The more important thing: we remain one game behind Detroit.:bandance:

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
just got home & missed it. how many out when the squeeze was on?
2

stl_sox_fan
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
just got home & missed it. how many out when the squeeze was on?

2

SOecks
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
That was intense. I love ozzie ball. :supernana:

Since Ozzie was booted, was tonight Coopie Ball??? Just asking...:)

JB98
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
Pablo is Mr. Excitement, for good and for bad. He almost lost the game with his misadventures in LF. Then, he wins the game for us with a heads-up play. Way to go, Ozuna!

Great job by Jenks. He deserved this win for pitching out of that mess in the top of the 11th.

It sure feels good to beat Oakland. Screw the FOBB!!! :supernana:

ShoelessJoeS
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
just got home & missed it. how many out when the squeeze was on?Neifi Perez, nuff said.

Bobbo35
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
PABLO OZUNA....YES!!!! How great was that. Rob comes through with the big 2 run shot, the Sox battled the whole game and it paid off. That was awesome!!!! GO SOX!!!!

soxinthecity
05-22-2006, 10:18 PM
Oh man what a night what a team!!!!!!!!!!
:bandance::dtroll: :supernana:

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
just got home & missed it. how many out when the squeeze was on?

Two.

churlish
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
What a game!!! It was nice to see Garland battle out there even though he wasn't throwing the ball well.
Ozuna :supernana:

Bobbo35
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
:supernana::supernana::supernana:

I forgot a couple of the dancing bananas for the victory!!

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
:hawk

"Pablo, Bobby, and Mackowiak...YES!"

santo=dorf
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
:fobbgod:
"A 1 run loss??? On a bunt with two outs??? Did they not see Neifi Perez last week??? Someone hold me!!! jeremyb1!!!:whiner: "

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-22-2006, 10:19 PM
the whole game i doubted, now i'm munchin on crow. I LOVE PABLO!

haganaga
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
2

OUTSTANDING! A little upset I missed it but RIGHT ON!!

beckett21
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
What a way to win a ballgame! :cool:

EdHerman12
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
Awesome!:bandance: :bandance: :bandance: :bandance: Let's keep it going now....:gulp: <--To Pabs!

RKMeibalane
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
:fobbgod:
"A 1 run loss??? On a bunt with two outs??? Did they not see Neifi Perez last week??? Someone hold me!!! jeremyb1!!!:whiner: "

:roflmao:

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 10:20 PM
Neifi Perez, nuff said.

I was thinking the same thing...the irony is sweet.

SoxSpeed22
05-22-2006, 10:21 PM
I was way too busy with 24 and Dallas defeating San Antonio, overall, fun night (understatement). This is best bench ever!:bandance:

veeter
05-22-2006, 10:21 PM
That felt exactly like last season. I'll sleep like a baby tonite!

fuzzy_patters
05-22-2006, 10:21 PM
The home plate umpire was terrible, and we still won!:bandance::bandance::bandance:

drewcifer
05-22-2006, 10:22 PM
3 things stand out:

1. Frank coming home had a good night and we showed him class.
2. Looking like a legit MR in Thornton.....??????? Yes!
3. We win.

Oh, .... sorry need to add a 4th...

4. Ozzie calls an awesome and risky payoff move with 2 outs to win it...

I love my Sox!

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:22 PM
The home plate umpire was terrible, and we still won!:bandance::bandance::bandance:

Funny that people don't remember the name of the ump that helped us win an ALCS game last year :D:

ShoelessJoeS
05-22-2006, 10:23 PM
I was thinking the same thing...the irony is sweet.

"Tastes like....victory"

voodoochile
05-22-2006, 10:23 PM
BTW, is this not the perfect night? Frank goes crazy and the Sox still win!

Props to the pen who also redeemed themselves tonight.

Yep, it doesn't get any better than that. Great night of baseball all around.

BTW, anyone know what the special thing they did for Frank is? I didn't see any coverage of it during my MLB.TV telecast. I mean, 2 HR and a single is nice, but I assume they meant something not directly related to the game.:tongue:

mpshans
05-22-2006, 10:23 PM
3 things stand out:

1. Frank coming home had a good night and we showed him class.
2. Looking like a legit MR in Thornton.....??????? Yes!
3. We win.

Oh, .... sorry need to add a 4th...

4. Ozzie calls an awesome and risky payoff move with 2 outs to win it...

I love my Sox!

Ozzie was tossed!:smile:

Jjav829
05-22-2006, 10:23 PM
I was way too busy with 24 and Dallas defeating San Antonio, overall, fun night (understatement). This is best bench ever!:bandance:
Same here. I saw about 5 minutes of this game because of 24 and the Mavs-Spurs. Those 5 minutes included what were probably the three biggest highlights of the night - Ozuna's squeeze, Macko's HR and the squirrel.

Who was the douche bag that tried to step on the squirrel? :mad: Dumbass.

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:23 PM
4. Ozzie calls an awesome and risky payoff move with 2 outs to win it...



Ozzie was kicked out of the game in the 2nd inning.

Jjav829
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Yep, it doesn't get any better than that. Great night of baseball all around.

BTW, anyone know what the special thing they did for Frank is? I didn't see any coverage of it during my MLB.TV telecast. I mean, 2 HR and a single is nice, but I assume they meant something not directly related to the game.:tongue:

I think the "special thing" was letting him hit off of Garland. Nice gift, I guess. :D::(:

Madvora
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Pablo is becoming a very, very exciting player!

Great job tonight.

Daver
05-22-2006, 10:24 PM
Ozzie was kicked out of the game in the 2nd inning.

Did someone cut the phoneline from the clubhouse to the dugout?

Jjav829
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
Ozzie was kicked out of the game in the 2nd inning.

So? You think he went and took a nap because he was ejected? Managers still manage after they are ejected.

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
so pablo called that himself

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
1. Frank coming home had a good night and we showed him class.


I was proud of the Sox fans at the game for treating Big Frank with respect. I'm sure there's a few in the media who are disappointed.

I could have done without Frank's 2 homers, though.

Kogs35
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
PABBBBBBBBBLOOOOOOO OZZZZZZZUNA YEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

drewcifer
05-22-2006, 10:25 PM
Yes, I know.... Sorry. Arguing pitches....

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:26 PM
Did someone cut the phoneline from the clubhouse to the dugout?

Cut it out. Everyone knows Cora is running the show down there when Ozzie's in the clubhouse. :D:

UofCSoxFan
05-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Great game. However, while I may get dumped on for this I feel compelled to address the fact people are calling the Pablo bunt for a hit a "squeeze"

BUT THAT WAS NOT A SQUEEZE. A squeeze is a sac bunt to get a guy in from third with less than two outs. That was a bunt for a hit.

I'm sorry but one of my pet peeves is when people refer to a bunt for a hit with a runner on third AND TWO OUTS as a squeeze...it's not.

This also was different from the Neifi play not only b/c it was successful but b/c it was a totally different situation. Neifi did it down 2...not even to tie it up. In Neifi's case you still needed a hit after the bunt even if it was successful. This was the situation to do a 2 out bunt with a runner on third because it won the game.

RKMeibalane
05-22-2006, 10:27 PM
So? You think he went and took a nap because he was ejected? Managers still manage after they are ejected.

Manuel didn't. Then again, he didn't exactly manage when he was still in the game.

:jerry

"Zzzz..."

BeviBall!
05-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Cut it out. Everyone knows Cora is running the show down there when Ozzie's in the clubhouse. :D:

When he's not biting people!:rolleyes:

RowanDye
05-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Definitely one of the best games so far this year. Big win! Pablo is scary in the outfield though.

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:28 PM
So? You think he went and took a nap because he was ejected? Managers still manage after they are ejected.

I'm watching the press conference right now. Ozzie said he was in the clubhouse when Pablo hit it. I'm sticking with what Ozzie says :thumbsup:

voodoochile
05-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Same here. I saw about 5 minutes of this game because of 24 and the Mavs-Spurs. Those 5 minutes included the what were probably the three biggest highlights of the night - Ozuna's squeeze, Macko's HR and the squirrel.

Who was the douche bag that tried to step on the squirrel? :mad: Dumbass.

All on the same page, but I got MLB.TV, so I had the laptop on the coffee table with the game on and was switching back and forth between Alias and the Mav-Spurs. Not a huge Alias fan, but it was the series finale. Never got into 24 all that much. Oh and with PIP, I was truly multi-tasking. :tongue:

That squirrel rocked. I was cracking up. I remember the one at SF years ago that actually was flying down the field. When it crossed the goal line the crowd goes nuts and like a true showboat, the squirrel stopped and stood up to acknowledge the crowd...

fuzzy_patters
05-22-2006, 10:29 PM
Funny that people don't remember the name of the ump that helped us win an ALCS game last year :D:

Why? Was it the same guy? If so, I am still mad at him because he robbed us of a run earlier in that game with the phantom tag call at home plate, as well. The dropped third strike call should have never come into play.

Sox83Kid
05-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I luv Pablo in the clutch! Which pitcher got credited with the win?

Brian26
05-22-2006, 10:30 PM
Why? Was it the same guy?

Yeah, Doug Eddings...same guy.

ode to veeck
05-22-2006, 10:31 PM
I luv Pablo in the clutch! Which pitcher got credited with the win?

Bobby Jennks picks up the W as he was pitcher of record when they took the lead

soxwon
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
No doubt the best WIN of the year!!!

bestkosher
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
Thanks God for my PPO or else after that game I would be DOA. Total thriller.

Lip Man 1
05-22-2006, 10:33 PM
Congrats to Sox fans for showing class and dignity giving Frank that standing ovation (wonder what Kenny thought of this?)

Congrats to Frank for a successful return home (although with due respect I'd still rather have Thome right now, bigger upside...)

Congrats to the Sox for their second game this season where they won after trailing in the 7th inning or later.

STAT OF THE NIGHT:

Ozuna was the key factor in both 'come from behind' wins. It was his home run on the 3rd vs. Seattle that tied the game and tonight it was his bunt.

Lip

infohawk
05-22-2006, 10:34 PM
I'm just......speechless. I am so happy we won that game. I guess we just needed to get Zito out of there. By the way, this game illustrates how thin the line is between goat and hero. If the A's would have scored one or two runs in the top of the tenth, everyone would have been reaming Ozuna and the decision to not put Podsednik in the game. Instead, Bobby pitches over the "ooops" and Ozuna ends up getting the winning hit.

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-22-2006, 10:35 PM
some of doug eddings calls just sucked big time tonight. There must have been at least 5 or 6 RIGHT down the pipe that he missed.

Amazing bunt by pablo.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 10:35 PM
Funny that people don't remember the name of the ump that helped us win an ALCS game last year :D:
I missed the first several innings, but I saw the "horrible call montage", and the strike zone was not the same for both teams.
I think Eddings wanted to create a strikezone that was very much against the Sox, to put moron conspiracy theorists to rest. You just know that if the strikezones were reversed today, they would be talking about "did Eddings take payment from White Sox to help them win?" on PTI tomorrow.:rolleyes:

Lip Man 1
05-22-2006, 10:35 PM
The defense though has slipped a bit this year overall. Something I hope Ozzie starts to pound on.

Lip

Bobbo35
05-22-2006, 10:37 PM
Yeah, Doug Eddings...same guy.

He made more crappy calls tonight at the plate. The strike he called on Thome in the 10th was way high.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
The defense though has slipped a bit this year overall. Something I hope Ozzie starts to pound on.

Lip :rolleyes:
:darkcloud:

You just couldn't live with the win, could you?

Between Crede, Uribe, Iguchi, Dye, and Anderson, we are horrible. We have slumped defensively latey, Uribe in particular. It is a lack of focus, and players get over it.

Hey, Lip, how did the bullpen do tonight?

markopat
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
That win ROCKED! Way to go Bobby Jenks and Pablo! Here's to Ozzie and his brand of OZZIEBALL!!!

NICE WIN!

DickAllen72
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
Dye, Mackowiak, Jenks, and everybody's favorite Backyardigan, Pablo!!! :supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

voodoochile
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
He made more crappy calls tonight at the plate. The strike he called on Thome in the 10th was way high.

That was the one that really stuck out for me. It was at his shoulders. But, I believe it was the 9th when it happened.

Different pitchers with different styles. He was calling that same curve strike for both Zito and Bobby. Garland just doesn't throw a curve ball.

oeo
05-22-2006, 10:40 PM
That win ROCKED! Way to go Bobby Jenks and Pablo! Here's to Ozzie and his brand of OZZIEBALL!!!

NICE WIN!
I'm pretty happy with the way Thornton kept the game right where it was, as well. Even struck out Big Frank. :cool: And Rob...who says you're not clutch?

flo-B-flo
05-22-2006, 10:40 PM
Big Frank ..........awesome..........crowd reaction ............I'm proud to be a Sox fan. Then he proceeds to kill us. Macko .......that was huge. Jenks.........what a ****in game..........

Bobbo35
05-22-2006, 10:40 PM
I missed the first several innings, but I saw the "horrible call montage", and the strike zone was not the same for both teams.
I think Eddings wanted to create a strikezone that was very much against the Sox, to put moron conspiracy theorists to rest. You just know that if the strikezones were reversed today, they would be talking about "did Eddings take payment from White Sox to help them win?" on PTI tomorrow.:rolleyes:

Ya, I was thinking the exact same thing. He wanted to redeem himself so the theorists would not have a field day on him.

SluggersAway
05-22-2006, 10:41 PM
What a really great show! Thornton, Dye, Mackowiak, Jenks, and then Ozuna! Who could have predicted it? Excellent work!

TaylorStSox
05-22-2006, 10:42 PM
Wow. That was awesome. If Jon's going to give up some runs, they might as well be to Frank. It was a great night. Frank got what he deserved and we still pulled it out in an exciting fashion.

:gulp::gulp:

Georgey3085
05-22-2006, 10:46 PM
He made more crappy calls tonight at the plate. The strike he called on Thome in the 10th was way high.

He may have called one of the worst games ever, but the AJ play in the playoffs helps :)

Tragg
05-22-2006, 10:47 PM
We win on a squeeze.....and on a squeeze to beat Beane. Beautiful.

Thornton's been pitching very well.

Lip Man 1
05-22-2006, 10:48 PM
Roman:

Stop overreacting. The comment was made in reference to an earlier poster talking about Ozuna in the field. In fact they HAVE been making a lot of errors lately.

Or did you forget the six unearned runs in the first inning at Minnesota?

:rolleyes:

'Lighten up Francis'..... (Sgt Hulka from Stripes)

From White Sox.com:

Williams expressed slight displeasure with the team's overall defensive play and the way the White Sox have pitched out of the bullpen. Williams is not one to let a problem sit and fester too long.

"If there's something we are dissatisfied with and we don't think is performing up to expectations, we will make a change," Williams said. "Unless some things change, we are going to take aggressive measures to correct them."

Who knows maybe the bullpen heard about Williams comments.

Lip

infohawk
05-22-2006, 10:49 PM
I'm pretty happy with the way Thornton kept the game right where it was, as well. Even struck out Big Frank. :cool: And Rob...who says you're not clutch?
Thornton is quietly becoming a somewhat reliable arm out of the 'pen. That would be huge for the Sox.

slavko
05-22-2006, 10:52 PM
Great game. However, while I may get dumped on for this I feel compelled to address the fact people are calling the Pablo bunt for a hit a "squeeze"

BUT THAT WAS NOT A SQUEEZE. A squeeze is a sac bunt to get a guy in from third with less than two outs. That was a bunt for a hit.

I'm sorry but one of my pet peeves is when people refer to a bunt for a hit with a runner on third AND TWO OUTS as a squeeze...it's not.


I hear you. Does anyone else?

voodoochile
05-22-2006, 10:53 PM
Roman:

Stop overreacting. The comment was made in reference to an earlier poster talking about Ozuna in the field. In fact they HAVE been making a lot of errors lately.

Or did you forget the six unearned runs in the first inning at Minnesota?

:rolleyes:

'Lighten up Francis'..... (Sgt Hulka from Stripes)

Lip

I agree that the dark cloud was uncalled for, but you are also forgetting Ozuna's throw from the base of the wall in LF to temporarily keep a run off the board early in the game. I thought the guy was going to score walking when it left Frank's bat with two outs, but next thing I know the runner is scrambling back to third when Ozuna's rifle shot went flying by him. Can't remember the last time I saw a throw like that. Pretty amazing, IMO.

He did look like a complete clown getting handcuffed by that baseball in the 10th.

Nice to see AJ coming around on some throws to second though recently. He's actually thrown a few guys out.

JB98
05-22-2006, 10:54 PM
Thornton is quietly becoming a somewhat reliable arm out of the 'pen. That would be huge for the Sox.

No question. I've been critical of him, but he was an unsung hero tonight. I'll give credit where credit is due. He kept the score at 4-1 and gave us a chance to come back.

With regard to the umpire, I wonder if they are subject to the FOBB brainwashing. The A's hitters are so selective. If they don't swing, it must not be a strike. Whenever we face Oakland, it seems like we are getting squeezed, and our pitchers run up the pitch count quickly.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 10:55 PM
Roman:

Stop overreacting. The comment was made in reference to an earlier poster talking about Ozuna in the field. In fact they HAVE been making a lot of errors lately.

Or did you forget the six unearned runs in the first inning at Minnesota?

:rolleyes:

'Lighten up Francis'..... (Sgt Hulka from Stripes)

Lip As I said, defense sometimes slumps. Uribe, in particular, has had problems recently. He will get over it. Uribe, Crede, Iguchi, Dye, and Anderson are very very good defensively. Pods and Konerko are, at worst, respectable. The players who have made errors will settle down soon. We are one of the best defensive teams in baseball.
As for Ozuna, he has been hitting the ball well lately. He will only play once or twice a week, and to this point he has helped us a hell of a lot more than he has hurt us. Besides, come playoff time, Podsednik will play every day, even against lefties.

TaylorStSox
05-22-2006, 10:56 PM
Anybody else get a little teary eyed during Frank's first AB and the homer? :whiner::redface:

HomeFish
05-22-2006, 10:56 PM
Isn't there the term "suicide squeeze" for bunting a guy in with 2 outs?

Whatever the case, I had 6 non-Chicagoans with me today, it was the first Sox game for most of them. I told them before the game that when Pablo Ozuna is in a game, strange things happen. When that squirrel came out, some of them stopped doubting me. When Daddy Mack hit that homerun, some believed. When that bunt went down, they were signing up for the Pablo Ozuna fanclub.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 10:58 PM
Isn't there the term "suicide squeeze" for bunting a guy in with 2 outs?

Whatever the case, I had 6 non-Chicagoans with me today, it was the first Sox game for most of them. I told them before the game that when Pablo Ozuna is in a game, strange things happen. When that squirrel came out, some of them stopped doubting me. When Daddy Mack hit that homerun, some believed. When that bunt went down, they were signing up for the Pablo Ozuna fanclub.
Meanwhile, you stick with the Twins fanclub.:D:

TaylorStSox
05-22-2006, 10:59 PM
As I said, defense sometimes slumps. Uribe, in particular, has had problems recently. He will get over it. Uribe, Crede, Iguchi, Dye, and Anderson are very very good defensively. Pods and Konerko are, at worst, respectable. The players who have made errors will settle down soon. We are one of the best defensive teams in baseball.
As for Ozuna, he has been hitting the ball well lately. He will only play once or twice a week, and to this point he has helped us a hell of a lot more than he has hurt us. Besides, come playoff time, Podsednik will play every day, even against lefties.

Juan's not getting down on balls and moving laterally as well as he should be. Maybe losing a sawbuck would help a little. I'd still take him over any other SS in the AL.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 11:01 PM
Juan's not getting down on balls and moving laterally as well as he should be. Maybe losing a sawbuck would help a little. I'd still take him over any other SS in the AL. Exactly. Juan has not been himself in the field lately. However, come playoff time, I can't think of another guy I would rather have at short for us (defensively speaking).

Lip Man 1
05-22-2006, 11:02 PM
Roman:

No problem. I was just a little ticked about the way you came at me. All's well that ends well.

Lip

cbotnyse
05-22-2006, 11:04 PM
that game was awesome.....I thought this would be Frank's glorious return when he hit that HR, and then went on to hit another.........but we rallied back and took the game........

that place was sooooooo loud when Rob M. hit that HR!

and I thought AJ got a great ovation when he came in the game.......I think we made him feel appreciated.....

:supernana: :supernana: :Rocker: :thumbsup: :wired: :cheers:

almost forgot.....:moonwalk:

FielderJones
05-22-2006, 11:05 PM
Isn't there the term "suicide squeeze" for bunting a guy in with 2 outs?

No.

Suicide squeeze is when the runner on third leaves as the pitcher goes into his motion. The batter has to get the bunt down no matter what, or foul it off.

fuzzy_patters
05-22-2006, 11:05 PM
Isn't there the term "suicide squeeze" for bunting a guy in with 2 outs?

Whatever the case, I had 6 non-Chicagoans with me today, it was the first Sox game for most of them. I told them before the game that when Pablo Ozuna is in a game, strange things happen. When that squirrel came out, some of them stopped doubting me. When Daddy Mack hit that homerun, some believed. When that bunt went down, they were signing up for the Pablo Ozuna fanclub.

No, a suicide squeeze is the play in which the runner at third runs home while the ball is pitched. It is called a suicide squeeze because he is running into an out at home plate if the batter fails to put down the bunt. Since the batter is trying to give himself up, it is not used with two outs.

mmmmmbeeer
05-22-2006, 11:06 PM
I hear you. Does anyone else?

it definitely wasn't a suicide squeeze being there were 2 outs and a suicide implies the hitter expects to be thrown out. although, i am fairly sure this instance would fall under the "safety squeeze" play. i could be wrong but it seems right to me.

whitesoxwilkes
05-22-2006, 11:07 PM
Nice to see AJ coming around on some throws to second though recently. He's actually thrown a few guys out.

I've noticed that too. Seems like his timing is a little bit better and he's getting a quicker plant and release in gunning it straight down the pipe.

Great time at COTC tonight with a thrilling finish.

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 11:08 PM
Roman:

No problem. I was just a little ticked about the way you came at me. All's well that ends well.

Lip
Well, West isn't online now, so someone had to do it.:D:

DickAllen72
05-22-2006, 11:08 PM
I like Thornton too.

TaylorStSox
05-22-2006, 11:08 PM
I've noticed that too. Seems like his timing is a little bit better and he's getting a quicker plant and release in gunning it straight down the pipe.

Great time at COTC tonight with a thrilling finish.

I've noticed that too, but I think it might be pitch selection. It seems like our pitcher's are going to the high heat in running situations more often.

JB98
05-22-2006, 11:08 PM
I wouldn't call it a squeeze at all. A squeeze is a sacrifice bunt that gets a runner in from third, while batter is retired at first. Pablo was bunting for a base hit, plain and simple.

peeonwrigley
05-22-2006, 11:12 PM
Juan's not getting down on balls and moving laterally as well as he should be. Maybe losing a sawbuck would help a little. I'd still take him over any other SS in the AL.

Juan has looked a little lazy to me in the field. He's playing a lot of stuff to the side and relying a lot on his strong arm. He has always played the position "casually," but only recently have I seen it bite him.

As for Ozuna's throw, he actually missed the cut with Crede but it ended up working out OK. Had it been thrown low enough for Crede to cut the runner could have been nailed trying to scramble back to third base... inning over.

FielderJones
05-22-2006, 11:14 PM
it definitely wasn't a suicide squeeze being there were 2 outs and a suicide implies the hitter expects to be thrown out. although, i am fairly sure this instance would fall under the "safety squeeze" play. i could be wrong but it seems right to me.

:rolleyes:

Once again, the play was not any kind of squeeze. Bunt single, RBI.

Corlose 15
05-22-2006, 11:16 PM
Something dawned on me that tenth inning that made me sad. Tonight was the first time in my life, and I'm sure in the lives of the 39K+ in attendance tonight, that I was rooting for Frank Thomas to strike out. :whiner: Don't get me wrong, the Sox made the right move but it got to me.

An outstanding comeback by the Sox. These are the types of games that they won last year and it makes it especially sweet to see them come back against the lousy A's.

Bobby was OUTSTANDING in that 10th inning and his K of Crosby was phenomenal. He never even lifted the bat off his shoulder.:bandance:

elrod
05-22-2006, 11:20 PM
Best game of the year. After the Cubs series, and with Frank in town, coming from behind late was huge. I still can't believe Mackowiak went deep off Huston Street.

mmmmmbeeer
05-22-2006, 11:20 PM
:rolleyes:

Once again, the play was not any kind of squeeze. Bunt single, RBI.

Thanks for the :rolleyes: .

According to several online dictionaries:

squeeze_play Anoun1 squeeze play
a baseball play in which a runner on third base tries to score as the batter bunts the pitch

vegyrex
05-22-2006, 11:23 PM
What a game! It had everything. Big Frank, homers, crazy squirrels, game winning bunts. Oh yeah! :smile:

ode to veeck
05-22-2006, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the :rolleyes: .

According to several really bad online dictionaries:



I fixed you ref :redneck

kevingrt
05-22-2006, 11:25 PM
Great time great time with the members and the cowbell is still ringin in my head. I think that is a good thing. AND OH PABLO!

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 11:26 PM
I wouldn't call it a squeeze at all. A squeeze is a sacrifice bunt that gets a runner in from third, while batter is retired at first. Pablo was bunting for a base hit, plain and simple.
True, but regardless, if AJ was running with the pitch, he is dead at home if Ozuna misses the bunt. Thus, it is a suicide squeeze.

ode to veeck
05-22-2006, 11:27 PM
<...> Ozuna's throw from the base of the wall in LF to temporarily keep a run off the board early in the game. I thought the guy was going to score walking when it left Frank's bat with two outs, but next thing I know the runner is scrambling back to third when Ozuna's rifle shot went flying by him. Can't remember the last time I saw a throw like that. Pretty amazing, IMO.


That was a huge throw

ode to veeck
05-22-2006, 11:29 PM
Thornton is quietly becoming a somewhat reliable arm out of the 'pen. That would be huge for the Sox.

He's been doping well and they need more than just fingernails on chalkboard out there

itsnotrequired
05-22-2006, 11:35 PM
CotC is where the champs meet!

I met too many WSI members to remember. The best part was celebrating the win with so many good Sox fans. We need to do this again...

Sig update time.

Erik The Red
05-22-2006, 11:38 PM
I just got in to work after riding a packed red line train from the park. What a game!!! I couldn't think of a more perfect outcome. Frank has a monster night, and we come back from a 4-0 deficit to win it in extras on a BUNT SINGLE WITH TWO ****ING OUTS!!! AMAZING!!! I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!

goon
05-22-2006, 11:52 PM
i can't wait until thornton gets called down, this guy has been nothing but problems for us...

great game to see, especially from the bleachers. the cell was alive tonight and a very respectful ovation for thomas which was well deserved. good job by the pen, jermaine for the solo shot and awesome catch, MACK and PABLO.. what can you say? clutch.

since i was at the game, viewing it from a distance, was garland really getting squeezed that much? even so, he did a good job of not letting the game get too carried away.

LongLiveFisk
05-22-2006, 11:53 PM
Just got home from the game. AWESOME atmosphere tonight. The standing "o" for Frank was electric as were the cheers for his first home run. HUGE come-from-behind win, to state the obvious!

Too bad I didn't meet any of you guys but I was stuck in the upper tank. Oh well. A great time was had anyway! :bandance:

Chicago
05-22-2006, 11:55 PM
WOW, what a great game... that's why you stay till the end, never leave early. :bandance:

ode to veeck
05-22-2006, 11:55 PM
Thanks for the :rolleyes: .

According to several online dictionaries:

squeeze_play Anoun1 squeeze play
a baseball play in which a runner on third base tries to score as the batter bunts the pitch

The actual Trib Sports Headline seals the deal on this call:
Squeezy Does it for Sox

In other words, they have to be wrong.
It ain't a squeeze play
Q.E.D.

MRM
05-22-2006, 11:57 PM
I wasn't real happy with Franks HR's until after the Sox won. That said, I'm THRILLED he hit 'em. Good job Sox fans for treating him right, too.

I couldn't be happier with tonights game other than Garland, AGAIN.

Personally, I'd trade the man while they can still get something for him. I'm no reactionary, but Jon had proven my worst fears...Last year was a fluke.

When you are a sinker ball pitcher and the sink don't happen naturally, you are GONNA get hit hard.

Anyhow, welcome back to Chicago, hurt.

QCIASOXFAN
05-23-2006, 12:02 AM
:bandance: :bandance: :bandance: That was probably one of the best Sox games, if not the best I have seen all year long!

HotelWhiteSox
05-23-2006, 12:02 AM
Just got home, and first, I'd like to take a bow for calling that bunt :cool:

Crazy game, so much stuff happening, Frank's return, great tribute video (nice to see the standing O, and I even clapped after the HR, but after the 2nd? Also don't see why he should be booed after), a squirrel, ejections, getting to Huston Street, mercy!

Hats off to Matt Thornton and AJ (Bobby as well, but I expect that from him), under the radar big time contributors. Throw Dye in as well

And how about the Mack daddy. That looks like a genius move, but a Sox game isn't complete without second guessing. Was asking for Pods to come in after RMack pinch hit (he is okay right?), and would like to see him and AJ play more against tough lefties, since they will face lefties in the playoffs (possibly A's/Zito).

Great game, good game by Zito (as he has been doing lately), but even better for the Sox to stay in it and go after the pen. Makes up for the loss to the AAA team yesterday so it's great to win the tougher game

gosox3072
05-23-2006, 12:15 AM
Just got back....and only one word describes that ending...unbelieveable. I had UD tix but sat about 7 rows above the sox dugout, ive never been that close to the action in my life.

One thing i was very disappointed in were all the boos for garland after he gave up 2 runs and a hit. Yah thats bad but enough to boo the world champs??? i think not.

Chisox003
05-23-2006, 12:19 AM
:gulp:

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 12:21 AM
Just got back from CotC. Didn't really talk to too many people there. I was the idiot in the green and pink retro jersey that needs to shave though, in case anybody was wondering.

My thoughts: Holy hell that was a good game. I can barely talk anymore, my throat is so sore. Either second or third in my list of best Sox games I have been at. The crowd reception for Frank was great at first, but the booing later was unnecesary. If you don't want to cheer him, fine, but booing the best player in franchise history is a slap in the face. Glad that he went deep twice. I also heard he mentioned in the pregame that he wouldn't mind a front office job in the future. That's what I was hoping for.

Pablo is amazing. He is a spark plug, and the best bench player in the game as far as I am concerned. Mackowiak is the second best. What a hit for the hometown kid. I was hoping Anderson would have a big day coming off the fight with the Cubs, unfortunately it wasn't in the stars. He'll come around though.

CotC was an awesome deal. The friends I brought along had a blast and thought it was a great deal too. I will definately be doing it next year or if there is a second one later in the year. Hopefully I'll get a chance to talk to more of you then.

I got a question though: Jenks' fastball varried from 91-99 on the Lasalle Bank board from what I could tell. Was he really throwing that varried, or was the gun just off for a couple of them? Also glad to see him throw for two good innings. Also glad to see Thornton come out and have a good showing. What a pickup he is turning into for Borchard.

Fuller_Schettman
05-23-2006, 12:22 AM
Interesting to note: All 3 of the Sox victories against Oakland in 2005/06 have come in games started by...Jon Garland.

Diss Chanches Efferyting!

Let's hope Javy can break that string tomorrow!

Sargeant79
05-23-2006, 12:23 AM
Just got home from the game and wow, was that a great one. A few observations:

- Worst part about Eddings' ball/strike calls tonight was the lack of consistency. Fastballs at the top of the shins were balls only about 50% of the time this evening, and it seems that everything that was a strike on Paul Konerko wasn't on everyone else.

- I don't know about all of you, but I feel much better about our bullpen tonight than I did yesterday. Thornton and Jenks were outstanding.

- Jon Garland seemed like he pitched two different games tonight. The first three innings or so were awful, and he's lucky he escaped with only three runs getting in through that point in the game. But whatever light bulb went off after that needs to stay on for a while, because he looked really good in his last few innings. In particular, he discovered how to be efficient halfway through the game.

- Members of the grounds crew chasing a squirrel is damn funny.

- Nice to see we are, indeed, classier than Cleveland fans.

Beautox
05-23-2006, 12:24 AM
In Spanish the word Ozuna means magic :redneck

Deebs14
05-23-2006, 12:26 AM
What a ****ing game! It started off as a real sleeper but ended up as probably the most exciting game of the year. :gulp:

Man is our bench stacked! :bandance:

mrs. hendu
05-23-2006, 12:26 AM
PABLO!!!:bandance:
Pablo and Rob, let's not forget his game-tying homerun (his 1st of the season) and the single. Our bench is awesome! What a game!!!!!!!!

I need an Ozuna shirt.

Sargeant79
05-23-2006, 12:27 AM
Two points:

I could have done without Frank's second HR.

IIRC, part of Jon Garland's three year contract that he just signed is a no-trade clause through the end of the season.

mike squires
05-23-2006, 12:29 AM
Wow, what a ****in' game that was. Down 4-0 against a tough Zito, get to the 'pen and win it.

AJ and Pablo contributed down the stretch, but Mack had the hit of the game!

:bandance: :gulp: :bandance:

DOn't rub it in! Had to leave at the end of the 4th due to cold weather.:whiner:

mike squires
05-23-2006, 12:32 AM
I was way too busy with 24 and Dallas defeating San Antonio, overall, fun night (understatement). This is best bench ever!:bandance:

I think you got your priorities in the wrong place Speed!:smile:

Erik The Red
05-23-2006, 12:33 AM
I think you got your priorities in the wrong place Speed!:smile:
Seriously!

mrs. hendu
05-23-2006, 12:50 AM
I'm pretty happy with the way Thornton kept the game right where it was, as well. Even struck out Big Frank. :cool: And Rob...who says you're not clutch?
Agreed. :smile:

Beauty35thStreet
05-23-2006, 12:53 AM
It was nice to see Frank hit those homers. He never wanted to leave. How can I not root for him?

The Sox are an amazing team, this was a huge win.

StillMissOzzie
05-23-2006, 12:53 AM
We also had to leave too early from COTC II [ :whiner: ] as we had our kids with us and school is still in session. [ :angry: ]. A few of my observations and pearls of wisdom:

We were detained in traffic and made it to the Patio Party at around 6:30. I never found a name tag, but I did see chisoxmike, who remembered me from last year. Also got a chance to say hello and shake hands with PHG, the WSI founding father. But, with very little time in the Patio and no name tag, I had no chance to schmooze with the other WSI folks. :(:

It was great to be part of the 'Welcome Back to Chicago, Frank!' event. The video tribute they showed on the big screen right before Frank's 1st AB was truly moving. And I am so happy that he was so warmly recieved with the nice, long standing O. I was also happy that he hit not one but two HR's, especially in a futile SOX WIN gesture, since creeping up on 500 HR's can only improve Frank's prospects come HOF time.

The squirrel chase was a riot! My younger daughter, who is not yet a big baseball fan, had a funny diversion for a few minutes.:D:

That PH homer by Mack was a Cora stroke of genius, since with Ozzie getting ejected in the 2nd, he had nothing to do with that decision.:o:

I still wish the Sox could have scored 1 more in the bottom of the 8th, as even the outs that were made were on balls that were crushed. Thornton could have gotten the victory after throwing all of one pitch to induce that double play,assuming Jenks would have held 'em in the 9th.

There were some brutal balls & strikes called there, especially on Thome in the 9th.:angry:

Hey, are robiwho and logansquaregirl sisters, or do they just look alike to this observer? :dunno:

Hey, Chips, I liked your retro jersey! :thumbsup:

But most importantly, a White Sox Winner!! :bandance:

SMO
:gulp:

Vernam
05-23-2006, 12:56 AM
What a memorable night at the park. The reception for Frank made me proud to be a Sox fan. :thumbsup:

As for the finish, all I can say is: Let Pablo Be Pablo! I'd no sooner asked my wife *** he was still doing in left field than he misplayed that liner into a "double." But his game-winning RBI made up for the butchery.

Mackowiak was the hero, though. Between him and Cintron, we've got some decent left bats to run up there in the late innings . . .

EDIT: How did I forget Thornton?! Muy impressive. Jenks: Not half bad, either.

Vernam

mrkslntbob
05-23-2006, 01:00 AM
Great game.

I was in the upper deck. Very cool of the Sox to show that highlight video for Frank, classy of the fans to cheer him (except for the idiots behind me), and of Frank taking off his helmet and acknowledging the fans.

Clutch home run by Mack, clutch bunt single for Pablo, great ending, great game.

Go White Sox. Very nice to get a win against Oakland.

mrs. hendu
05-23-2006, 01:00 AM
Who was the douche bag that tried to step on the squirrel? :mad: Dumbass.

Really? I must have missed it. What an idiot. :mad:
I hope the poor little thing is ok, alive and not hungry. :(:

Mercy!
05-23-2006, 01:03 AM
Did someone cut the phoneline from the clubhouse to the dugout?
I'm sure they didn't. But on the postgame show, Ozzie said that the bunt was Ozuna's own decision.

tebman
05-23-2006, 01:05 AM
To quote Frankie Valli, "Oh what a night..."

A splendid time was had by all at the COTC soiree! Great to meet more of the classiest fans in professional sports. Got to meet Our Founder, PHG, and spend quality time with kindred spirits. Also chatted with the A's bullpen and saw a squirrel. A well-rounded night.

Oh, and the game was okay too. :tongue:

I luuuvvv squeezes. I know, I know, it's not a squeeze with two outs, but it had all the ambience of a squeeze and it was exciting as hell. Someday the Tigers will lose a game and the Sox will get back to first place like God intended.

It's good to be alive!

SluggersAway
05-23-2006, 01:05 AM
I love the late fans coming home from the game and giving their insight. Thanks a bunch and keep it coming!

Once again, bravo to the ThorDyeJenksMackZuna machine!

Frankfan4life
05-23-2006, 01:06 AM
This game made me very, very happy! Kudos to Mack, Pablo, and Jenks.

And welcome back to The Cell Big Frank! I was glad to see the big guy. Thank you Sox fans for the very warm welcome back for Big Frank. You made me proud!

hawkjt
05-23-2006, 01:14 AM
I am still not worried about Jon Garland. The strike zone got him early - Frank watched two perfect outside corner strikes go by and eddings called them balls. The Jon had to come in over the plate and Frank was ready.
Jon settled in after the third and was decent. As long as his arm is sound, he will be fine.

Frank was awesome and so was the crowd. I am so happy that the sox fans gave him the proper homecoming. It was very impressive. There was some cub fan guy from ESPN1000 on Chicago tribune Sports show tonite (Jason Belenke?) and he said with all the assurance of a cub fan that the sox fans will boo him out of the Cell tonite. He is full of it. The media just never could understand the sox fans not picking up on their hate Frank crap.

Kudos to the whole team tonite.

AJ hustling to third on that Mack grounder in the 10th. Big Play and smart baseball

Mack's first pitch homer cold off the bench off of Street. That is impressive.
His second hit was huge also. He is gonna work out just fine.

Thornton is better all the time. Right now he is right behind Cotts as the third most reliable arm out of the pen after bobby.

Bobby- big cahones bad bobby.

JD's screamer got the rally started. Mr Dependable.

Juan's bomb off the wall was big. Kept the inning going. He hit the ball hard tonite.

And of course Pablo- beautiful clutch bunt. One of the highlights of the year.
He did it on his own and saw the opportunity and went for it. Sweet.

HomeFish
05-23-2006, 01:16 AM
I wasn't OK with people cheering Frank's HR. Cheer that if he hits it with the Sox way ahead or in a meaningless situation, but not when it just broke a tie. I gave Frank a standing ovation, then sat down and said "Ok, Frank, pop out to short like its 2002".

That said, in the end, Frank having a hell of a game and the Sox winning is a storybook ending. But you could not be certain of it in the 2nd.

Cat Thief
05-23-2006, 01:18 AM
:whiner:

My buddy ended up with the first Frank Thomas homerun ball. Unbelievable. Sec 161 Row 10. It bounced off my hand into another guys hand and then he scammed it. Man I would love to have that ball. He is wondering if it is worth anything. To top it off I lost my World Series pin when Pablo squeezed home the winning run. I should know better than to take my hat off. Oh well. The Flyingsock.com
pin is still there!

Great game!

Mercy!
05-23-2006, 01:21 AM
...I luuuvvv squeezes. I know, I know, it's not a squeeze with two outs, but it had all the ambience of a squeeze...
I've taken to saying: I luuv walk-off bunts!

BNLSox
05-23-2006, 01:24 AM
I went to an interleague game at Yankee stadium a couple years ago when the Cardinals were in town. It was the first time Tino Martinez had come back to the Bronx. The Yanks fans gave him a standing ovation and just like Frank he cranked a bomb. He was cheered all the way into the dug out and then the fans showered the starter (I don't recall who it was) with boo's.

In this moment I was thoroughly impressed with the base knowledge of the Yankee fan and thought there are only a few teams in baseball that draw crowds that would know how to handle that situation.

I was thoroughly impressed with the classiness of the moment, both by our fans and by the big guy. This truly was a storybook return!

As for bashing Jon for the HR meatball to Frank... Those pitches that Frank sat on definately got the outside of the plate. Small strike zone victimized Mr. Garland tonight. Most pitchers his age with his stuff would have gotten shelled tonight, not given their team a chance to win at all.

Bash Garland all you want, but he is a hot commodity in a pitching depleted league. Sure he looks bush league next to our starters, but folks, we have three cy young candidates on this staff. The fact that we can have a supremely high quality starter like Garland seem expendible just tells you how used to perfection we've gotten.

Anyway this is the longest post ever. Congrats Frank, and AMAZING game tonight!

Frankfan4life
05-23-2006, 01:28 AM
Frank was very gracious in his post game comments. You could tell he appreciated the great welcome by the fans. He was totally fired-up today.

He hasn't had much to be happy about lately. He really needed this type of game.

It would be cool if Frank could end his career in Chicago or at the very least have the organization make peace with him. I can only hope.

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 01:37 AM
Heh i was surprised that the fans didnt give him a curtain call, would be the first one i ever seen for an opposing player who didnt hit a "special homerun"

Heh, the look on garlands face was priceless where u can tell he's annoyed\pissed about the cheerin.

BadBobbyJenks
05-23-2006, 01:42 AM
I got a question though: Jenks' fastball varried from 91-99 on the Lasalle Bank board from what I could tell. Was he really throwing that varried, or was the gun just off for a couple of them?

I have wondered about this as well, he does have a cutter right? When ever it was 91 it seemed to be moving to me and the people in my section. How about 3 straight hooks to crosby though, buckled his knees every time.

Either way what a great game, moved to the bleachers behind the bullpen bar right when we started to rally, I will definately take credit for that. I loved the standing O we gave to Thomas, showing why this is such a better city then clevland. Also, what a great feeling as the whole stadium seemed to be standing from the mack homer all the way to the ozuna bunt.


Just a ****ing amazing game and I believe that was all ozuna calling his own play. Right up there with the AJ walkoff against the dodgers last year for games I have been at. Definately calls for a :gulp:

rbeze09
05-23-2006, 01:47 AM
ya awesome night.. i bought tix to this game as soon as they went on sale to the public and i was hoping to see one more memorable moment from the big guy, so he comes through with 2. With that said, the game was even more memorable in the way it finished...That was white sox baseball...a total team effort...great win.. and congrats big hurt, well on his way to 500 and cooperstown

gosox83
05-23-2006, 01:57 AM
Got home from the game and WOW!!!

I absolutely hate when they lose with a full house, so I was steaming up until Street came in and served up that gopher ball.

I believe Mack thought we were still playing the flubs as he deposited it into the Bullpen sports bar.

The Crowd was BONKERS tonight. I sat in the UD and these people wanted the Sox to win sooooooooooooooooooo bad.

Everyone in my section cheered for Frank like crazy.

Then the Sox pull it out and win in the most exciting way in front of the full house.

On the ramps going out of the ball park, people just kept yelling about how great the White Sox are!!

It is so great to be a White Sox fan right now.

OH YEAH one last thing......The cubs won....oops I meant one...marlins 9!! hahahahahahahah

GO SOX!!!

Wanne
05-23-2006, 01:57 AM
Thornton is better all the time. Right now he is right behind Cotts as the third most reliable arm out of the pen after bobby.


Truth be told, I have more confidence in Thornton right now than Cotts.

MUsoxfan
05-23-2006, 02:03 AM
I'm extremely happy I was able to make it to this game. I gave frank the standing 'O' that he deserves more than any other player that ever wore the uniform....I got to watch him blast a HR (hey, the Sox needed to get at least one to win anyway) and I got to see an exciting White Sox winner. I wouldn't have traded tonight for anything.

Mr. White Sox
05-23-2006, 02:24 AM
My first game of the year and it was a win! Yay!
I wasn't in CotC seating, obviously, but I was in some great seats for the first time in a LONG time. It is such a viewpoint change, and you can see flyball distance almost immediately off the bat (3rd base side).

To a previous poster:
I too asked my dad "*** is Ozuna still out there for?!" before his miscue, but his bunt was a thing of beauty. I heard in the postgame show that he did it on his own, without a signal. I guess Pods must have had the day off unconditionally, because any other day you'd want to upgrade defensively out there once the game gets close.

I LOVED when Macha brought in Street, because to me it made no sense to bring in a RHP to face an obvious LH PH (Cintron/Mack) when Anderson/whomever is probably a better matchup. Wow, what a game.

Oh, and I hope Mr. SquirrelSox is okay!

TheKittle
05-23-2006, 02:29 AM
I am still not worried about Jon Garland. The strike zone got him early - Frank watched two perfect outside corner strikes go by and eddings called them balls. The Jon had to come in over the plate and Frank was ready.
Jon settled in after the third and was decent. As long as his arm is sound, he will be fine.

Frank was awesome and so was the crowd. I am so happy that the sox fans gave him the proper homecoming. It was very impressive. There was some cub fan guy from ESPN1000 on Chicago tribune Sports show tonite (Jason Belenke?) and he said with all the assurance of a cub fan that the sox fans will boo him out of the Cell tonite. He is full of it. The media just never could understand the sox fans not picking up on their hate Frank crap.

Kudos to the whole team tonite.

AJ hustling to third on that Mack grounder in the 10th. Big Play and smart baseball

Mack's first pitch homer cold off the bench off of Street. That is impressive.
His second hit was huge also. He is gonna work out just fine.

Thornton is better all the time. Right now he is right behind Cotts as the third most reliable arm out of the pen after bobby.

Bobby- big cahones bad bobby.

JD's screamer got the rally started. Mr Dependable.

Juan's bomb off the wall was big. Kept the inning going. He hit the ball hard tonite.

And of course Pablo- beautiful clutch bunt. One of the highlights of the year.
He did it on his own and saw the opportunity and went for it. Sweet.

The recap mentions Garland threw Frank a fastball but after watching the replays the pitch looked more like a slider and was clocked at 83 mph.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060522&content_id=1466523&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

If the pitch was a fastball then something is wrong with Garland. If it was a slider then he just hung it. It happens.

I still can't get used to see Frank in green and yellow. Not saying the White Sox should have kept him just weird.

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 02:51 AM
:whiner:

My buddy ended up with the first Frank Thomas homerun ball. Unbelievable. Sec 161 Row 10. It bounced off my hand into another guys hand and then he scammed it. Man I would love to have that ball. He is wondering if it is worth anything. To top it off I lost my World Series pin when Pablo squeezed home the winning run. I should know better than to take my hat off. Oh well. The Flyingsock.com
pin is still there!

Great game!

:o::o::o:

Wow, if I was a wealthy man, I would pay more than normal for that ball, so I have to imagine it is worth something, but if he is a White Sox fan, not enough to sell it. The problem is it is tough to authenticate it, and unless its a record breaking ball, I doubt you are going to get the teams cooperation to do so (although I don't have any experience in authenticating balls, so I don't know for sure).

That is pretty cool though, I hope he is a big Frank Thomas/Sox fan. Make sure he keeps his ticket stub with it and any sort of receipts for the tickets you have. Also, try to get a copy of the game and see if you can locate him in the stands holding it, or at the very least being there. That kind of stuff can go a long way when establishing the authenticity of a ball, but most importantly, it's cool to have.

Nellie_Fox
05-23-2006, 03:25 AM
J was the idiot in the green and pink retro jersey that needs to shave. Your jersey needs to shave? I knew those green and pink jerseys were terrible, but I didn't know they were hairy.

TDog
05-23-2006, 03:27 AM
The actual Trib Sports Headline seals the deal on this call:
Squeezy Does it for Sox

In other words, they have to be wrong.
It ain't a squeeze play
Q.E.D.

Actually, on the Knight Ridder-Tribune wire, the story had "squeeze" in the headline, but nowhere else. A second version of that story did not even have the "squeeze" in the headline. The second version of the story added a few quotes. I don't think I've ever seen a second version of a Chicago baseball story on the KRT wire.

It was not a squeeze. The definition quoted earlier is incomplete for "squeeze" used as a transitive verb. If you go to the same site, you should find that "squeeze" as a noun comes with less than 2 out. I don't understand why there is a debate. He was bunting for a hit. Had he not been safe at first, the game would have gone to the 11th.

I don't comment often in the game threads because I usually don't get home until after 3 a.m. Chicago time. But I have to point out that I can only recall seeing one game end with a squeeze bunt, of which this game does not qualify. In October 2000, the Mariners squeezed in the winning run in Game 3 of the ALDS, in a play Sweet Lou later said was designed to exploit Frank Thomas' poor defensive skills.

I can understand how most of us might want to forget that game.

Nellie_Fox
05-23-2006, 03:30 AM
Whether you think it was a squeeze or not, calling a bunt in that situation took huevos grande, scrotage maximus.

TDog
05-23-2006, 04:08 AM
It was nice to see Frank hit those homers. He never wanted to leave. How can I not root for him?

....

Maybe if you cared about the White Sox winning, you would root for him to fail AGAINST YOUR TEAM. The Sox clawed back late from four runs down after Thomas hit two home runs and set up another run with a hit. Were it not for one swing by a pinch hitter (the Oakland beat writer wrote that Mack guessed right on a first-pitch change up, whatever) Thomas would have beaten the Sox. I wouldn't be OK with that.

Had I been in the park tonight, I would have been silent when he came up for the opposition. I wouldn't have endorsed the video tribute. I don't want to make him feel comfortable to facilitate his success against my team. The fans apparently treated him better than they did Garland, who, by the way, did a heck of a lot more last year to lead the Sox to a World Series title than Thomas ever did. I've waited for almost 40 years for the Sox to put together an elite team. I want Thomas to strike out every time he bats against the Sox because I want to win.

That being said, it reflects well on Sox fans, who get an undeserved bad rap, that they greeted Thomas with cheers and even (ugh) cheered his home run. I hope people give credit to Sox fans for being a "classy" lot. I'm not that classy because I care about winning. I don't care who hits 500 home runs or leads the league in what, beyond the White Sox leading the league in wins. I am tired of former South Side stars coming into town and beating the Sox senseless. I didn't like it when it was Tommy Davis, and I especially don't like it when it's Frank Thomas, the stakes now being so much higher. Fortunately, it ended well, and the Sox didn't fall two games behind Detroit.

And it made for epic baseball that people will be talking about for years.

TDog
05-23-2006, 04:13 AM
Whether you think it was a squeeze or not, calling a bunt in that situation took huevos grande, scrotage maximus.

Pablo was quoted in one of the reports of the game saying he is a better bunter than hitter.

Even though he started tonight, I feel good about the Sox bench.

MUsoxfan
05-23-2006, 04:29 AM
Maybe if you cared about the White Sox winning, you would root for him to fail AGAINST YOUR TEAM. The Sox clawed back late from four runs down after Thomas hit two home runs and set up another run with a hit. Were it not for one swing by a pinch hitter (the Oakland beat writer wrote that Mack guessed right on a first-pitch change up, whatever) Thomas would have beaten the Sox. I wouldn't be OK with that.

Had I been in the park tonight, I would have been silent when he came up for the opposition. I wouldn't have endorsed the video tribute. I don't want to make him feel comfortable to facilitate his success against my team. The fans apparently treated him better than they did Garland, who, by the way, did a heck of a lot more last year to lead the Sox to a World Series title than Thomas ever did. I've waited for almost 40 years for the Sox to put together an elite team. I want Thomas to strike out every time he bats against the Sox because I want to win.

That being said, it reflects well on Sox fans, who get an undeserved bad rap, that they greeted Thomas with cheers and even (ugh) cheered his home run. I hope people give credit to Sox fans for being a "classy" lot. I'm not that classy because I care about winning. I don't care who hits 500 home runs or leads the league in what, beyond the White Sox leading the league in wins. I am tired of former South Side stars coming into town and beating the Sox senseless. I didn't like it when it was Tommy Davis, and I especially don't like it when it's Frank Thomas, the stakes now being so much higher. Fortunately, it ended well, and the Sox didn't fall two games behind Detroit.

And it made for epic baseball that people will be talking about for years.
I cheered for him because he's the single greatest player in the history of the organization. I cheered for his homerun because I thought it was the right thing to do. The Sox needed 1 to win anyway, so I had no problem with it. I sat silent on his following at bats. As a Sox fan, there'd have to be something pretty wrong with you to not cheer the greatest player that ever wore a uniform on the South Side...at least once

TDog
05-23-2006, 04:43 AM
I cheered for him because he's the single greatest player in the history of the organization. I cheered for his homerun because I thought it was the right thing to do. The Sox needed 1 to win anyway, so I had no problem with it. I sat silent on his following at bats. As a Sox fan, there'd have to be something pretty wrong with you to not cheer the greatest player that ever wore a uniform on the South Side...at least once

I care more about the team than any single player. I suffered through enough years of watching the Sox lose and having and hearing people say, "at least Thomas hit one out." I'm glad he doesn't play for the Sox anymore because we have a better DH and a better first baseman. Ozzie tonight said he is glad Thomas doesn't play for him because he would have to put in a pinch runner when he got on base. I really like Frank Thomas. At the park in the 2000 ALDS, I cheered for him every time he came up. I cheered for him and didn't boo him when he popped out like some around me did. I'll cheer Thomas at a shopping mall. I'll cheer him in street clothes at the ballpark or some sort of exhibition.

If Thomas is swinging a bat against the Sox in a game that counts, he doesn't have my support.

Grzegorz
05-23-2006, 04:55 AM
Just got home from the game and wow, was that a great one. A few observations:

- Worst part about Eddings' ball/strike calls tonight was the lack of consistency. Fastballs at the top of the shins were balls only about 50% of the time this evening, and it seems that everything that was a strike on Paul Konerko wasn't on everyone else.

- I don't know about all of you, but I feel much better about our bullpen tonight than I did yesterday. Thornton and Jenks were outstanding.

- Jon Garland seemed like he pitched two different games tonight. The first three innings or so were awful, and he's lucky he escaped with only three runs getting in through that point in the game. But whatever light bulb went off after that needs to stay on for a while, because he looked really good in his last few innings. In particular, he discovered how to be efficient halfway through the game.


I believe that lack of strike zone consistency plagued Garland. Tracking the game on my PC I could see that he was giving up more than a hit an inning; home runs to boot.

It wasn't until I turned on the game that I saw that Garland was being squeezed. That may have been the reason why he had to throw closer to the heart of the plate than usual. He did pitch better as the game wore on.

Guillen getting kicked out goes to show "our guy" has a heartbeat...

The bullpen was fine lets see this effort carry over to the rest of the pen.

Teams slump from time to time; its just limiting the duration of the slump and never ever having that slump carry over to the defensive side of the ball.

Fantastic come back win; keeping on the heels of the Tigers.

Again, a wonderful win; I know its cliche but champions find ways to win...

The Immigrant
05-23-2006, 05:58 AM
I care more about the team than any single player. I suffered through enough years of watching the Sox lose and having and hearing people say, "at least Thomas hit one out." I'm glad he doesn't play for the Sox anymore because we have a better DH and a better first baseman. Ozzie tonight said he is glad Thomas doesn't play for him because he would have to put in a pinch runner when he got on base. I really like Frank Thomas. At the park in the 2000 ALDS, I cheered for him every time he came up. I cheered for him and didn't boo him when he popped out like some around me did. I'll cheer Thomas at a shopping mall. I'll cheer him in street clothes at the ballpark or some sort of exhibition.

If Thomas is swinging a bat against the Sox in a game that counts, he doesn't have my support.

I'm glad there's still some sanity left on these boards. Let's hope that standing ovations (at least for this series) and gopher balls for Frank are a thing of the past. We've shown the love, now beat him.

Skates
05-23-2006, 06:05 AM
I was starting to think I brought bad luck to the White Sox; I was at Sunday's game, and last night's game. But what an atmsphere at both games, it was nice to see the crowd cheer for Fran Thomas at his first at-bat but then later not cheer for him. Thome called it yesterday morning on the Score when he said we should atleast cheer for him once! ;)

But what a great game, I don't think we sat down in the bleechers from the 8th inning on!!

Go Mac and Pablo!!!

Realist
05-23-2006, 06:11 AM
Squirrel Update

The squirrel ended up running up section 144 all the way to the top and then stopping under seat 3 of the top row when he ran outta room and all there was was concourse left. He sat there very still and scared while the people in that section all got up so the little guy wouldn't throw a rod. The ushers sent for security to help him out and I went for a lap after a couple of innings and ended up in the Bullpen Sports Bar hoping to buy the Sox a little comeback luck.

I'm a big squirrel lover from way back so he musta known he'd be safe in my section. :smile:

That was the best game of the year so far and the crowd was electric all nite like it hasn't been since the World Series.

jenn2080
05-23-2006, 07:39 AM
IT was very good too see Frank get such a great standing O. My brother and I were very impressed and happy that he was welcomed with such excitement.

Viva Medias B's
05-23-2006, 08:16 AM
Squirrel Update

The squirrel ended up running up section 144 all the way to the top and then stopping under seat 3 of the top row when he ran outta room and all there was was concourse left. He sat there very still and scared while the people in that section all got up so the little guy wouldn't throw a rod. The ushers sent for security to help him out and I went for a lap after a couple of innings and ended up in the Bullpen Sports Bar hoping to buy the Sox a little comeback luck.

I'm a big squirrel lover from way back so he musta known he'd be safe in my section. :smile:

That was the best game of the year so far and the crowd was electric all nite like it hasn't been since the World Series.


With all the peanuts at the place, I wonder if they used them to try and trap the squirrel so that it could be put back into the wild. Squirrels (and Blue Jays) love peanuts.

salty99
05-23-2006, 08:21 AM
I got to the game early and Frank was signing autographs for at least 30-40 minutes. He started near the Sox dugout and went all the way over the A's. He must have ended up signing a few hundred items. I ended up getting my jersey signed. Now that's classy.

jenn2080
05-23-2006, 08:40 AM
What a great game?!?! That by far was one of the best games this year...next to the Crede grandslam and the Pablo HR game.

batmanZoSo
05-23-2006, 08:48 AM
That was the game of the year. It doesn't get more exciting that that. He sure sucks in left field, but I was very happy to see him come up in that situation. Pablo stood straight up there with this cocky expression, blowing a bubble as if he had some crazy scheme up his sleeve. And he did. :bandance:

white sox bill
05-23-2006, 08:54 AM
Damn I missed that part of the game. The price I pay for knockin' off a little:smile: :smile: :smile: during gametime!:D:

Iguana775
05-23-2006, 09:10 AM
I like the fact that Jenks pitched 2 scoreless innings of relief.

Pabs is that shiznit!!! batting .400+???!!

MsSoxVixen22
05-23-2006, 09:12 AM
I'm glad I taped 24 so I could watch the Sox! Garland...wow...he needs to get his **** together. My Dad called Mack hitting that homer. He comes up and my Dad was like come on Rob, you haven't hit a homer run yet. And then he does! Great bunt by Ozuna. Great job by Big Bad Bobby Jenks! I was LMAO when they showed the squirrel! The poor thing was probably scared ****less. I can't WAIT to go to the game tonite! :bandance: :)

TomBradley72
05-23-2006, 09:16 AM
Thank you Oakland for making the pitching move to get Machowiak into the game in place of Anderson....the HR and the 2 out single in the 10th.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Blob
05-23-2006, 09:17 AM
What a great game yesterday. Another game that proves you never leave early!!!!!

Good crowd, but about 1/4 left early. Too bad for them!!!!

The A's never saw the bunt coming! Pablo is a grinder!!!!

Cat Thief
05-23-2006, 10:14 AM
:o::o::o:

Wow, if I was a wealthy man, I would pay more than normal for that ball, so I have to imagine it is worth something, but if he is a White Sox fan, not enough to sell it. The problem is it is tough to authenticate it, and unless its a record breaking ball, I doubt you are going to get the teams cooperation to do so (although I don't have any experience in authenticating balls, so I don't know for sure).

That is pretty cool though, I hope he is a big Frank Thomas/Sox fan. Make sure he keeps his ticket stub with it and any sort of receipts for the tickets you have. Also, try to get a copy of the game and see if you can locate him in the stands holding it, or at the very least being there. That kind of stuff can go a long way when establishing the authenticity of a ball, but most importantly, it's cool to have.

He definitely was on TV after he came up with it. He is going to try and have Frank sign it tomorrow. I'm still so pissed that I let it get away.
I would keep it forever.

BainesHOF
05-23-2006, 12:14 PM
That was the best game of the year so far and the crowd was electric all nite like it hasn't been since the World Series.


I agree. Even when we were down, it was as if the fans were willing us to victory.

logansquaresox
05-23-2006, 01:06 PM
Hey, are robiwho and logansquaregirl sisters, or do they just look alike to this observer? :dunno:
Not as far as I know. (My mom, who was sitting next to me, would have a lot of explaining to do.)

It was a blast to watch this most excellent game with so many of you! I am very much paying for it today, however.

nsdjoe
05-23-2006, 01:44 PM
Not as far as I know. (My mom, who was sitting next to me, would have a lot of explaining to do.)

It was a blast to watch this most excellent game with so many of you! I am very much paying for it today, however.
By the context of your post I bet you must be a very nice person!

Mercy!
05-23-2006, 02:49 PM
With all the peanuts at the place, I wonder if they used them to try and trap the squirrel so that it could be put back into the wild. Squirrels (and Blue Jays) love peanuts.
Wow, it sure seemed as if the Sox don't have a "wild animal" plan in effect. The minute you saw two guys chasing a squirrel with capture equipment consisting of what looked like a rag or someone's shirt, you knew their chances were nil. I kind of thought they'd have something like a net at the end of a pole.

Mercy!
05-23-2006, 03:07 PM
Whether you think it was a squeeze or not, calling a bunt in that situation took huevos grande, scrotage maximus.
I believe that would be, huevos grandes. Unless you meant only one big one, in which case you could say, un huevo grande.

Anyway, I've learned something about the proper terminology for bunts, so this has been helpful. Now if people would just stop calling a pitch which hits a batter anywhere other than on his head a bean ball......

HomeFish
05-23-2006, 03:09 PM
No, a suicide squeeze is the play in which the runner at third runs home while the ball is pitched. It is called a suicide squeeze because he is running into an out at home plate if the batter fails to put down the bunt. Since the batter is trying to give himself up, it is not used with two outs.

Interesting.

I had somehow grown up thinking that a "suicide squeeze" was a bunt with two outs, and the "suicide" part comes from the high chance of it not working, sort of like a "suicide mission". Glad to have that corrected.

Nellie_Fox
05-23-2006, 08:21 PM
I believe that would be, huevos grandes. Unless you meant only one big one, in which case you could say, un huevo grande.
Thank you. My Spanish is limited.

wassagstdu
05-23-2006, 09:43 PM
Maybe this game sort of sums up the last 15 years or so. Frank hits two solo shots and loses. Sox finally win on a walkoff bunt.

.

FarWestChicago
05-23-2006, 09:45 PM
I agree that the dark cloud was uncalled forWake up, Voo. Lip is in full form once again. He deserves every Dark Cloud he gets and then some.

IlliniSox4Life
05-23-2006, 10:20 PM
Your jersey needs to shave? I knew those green and pink jerseys were terrible, but I didn't know they were hairy.

Hmm, maybe I should have said "I was the idiot in the retro green and pink sox jersey WHO needs to shave" not "that needs to shave"

Mercy!
05-24-2006, 12:52 AM
Thank you. My Spanish is limited.
Me too, but my knowledge of anatomy's pretty good.:cool: