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Fenway
05-22-2006, 02:36 PM
Of all the old ball parks, which was is the most forgotten?

gobears1987
05-22-2006, 02:38 PM
Tiger Stadium. It's in a sad state right now.:(:

Fenway
05-22-2006, 02:42 PM
Tiger Stadium. It's in a sad state right now.:(:

broke my heart last summer when I saw it just "there" waiting for the next game that will never come.

viagracat
05-22-2006, 02:44 PM
I've never even heard of Sicks Stadium. Is that where the Seattle Pilots played?

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/3477/pilots/title.jpg

Fenway
05-22-2006, 02:45 PM
I've never even heard of Sicks Stadium. Is that where the Seattle Pilots played?

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/3477/pilots/title.jpg


it was
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/sicksstadium59.jpg

I forgot the old KC ballpark

Chip Z'nuff
05-22-2006, 02:46 PM
probably the one forgotten in the poll... Comiskey Park

1951Campbell
05-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Out of that bunch? Sicks.

gbergman
05-22-2006, 02:47 PM
never heard of the wrigley in LA, or Sick Stadium

batmanZoSo
05-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Comiskey is probably one of them, considering it always seems to get left off of video games when they have an assortment of retro parks.

Many parks deserve to be forgotten, namely the donuts of the 60s and 70s, which have all bitten the dust. How about Jarry Park in Montreal, predecessor to the Olympique Stadium.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/Jarrypark.jpg

There have been lots of bizarre venues, such as the LA Coliseum for the Dodgers when they first moved and Mile High stadium, where the Rockies played their first two years. They "rolled" half the grandstand into left field. I still can't believe they turned that place into a baseball diamond.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/milehi02.jpg

Fenway
05-22-2006, 02:48 PM
probably the one forgotten in the poll... Comiskey Park

I tried to keep it with parks that have been 25 years or more. Comiskey is remembered fondly across the land.

I understand League Park in Cleveland is still there as are parts of Parc Jarry and Braves Field

Chip Z'nuff
05-22-2006, 02:53 PM
I tried to keep it with parks that have been 25 years or more. Comiskey is remembered fondly across the land.


Carry on, eh :)

Fenway
05-22-2006, 03:00 PM
There have been lots of bizarre venues, such as the LA Coliseum for the Dodgers when they first moved and Mile High stadium, where the Rockies played their first two years. They "rolled" half the grandstand into left field. I still can't believe they turned that place into a baseball diamond.



LA Coliseum was something like 251 down the LF line and they had a 50 foot screen. RF on the other hand was about 3,000 feet which hurt the Dodgers that first year since they had been built for Ebbets short RF.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/laxcol01.jpg

PaulDrake
05-22-2006, 03:03 PM
LA Coliseum was something like 251 down the LF line and they had a 50 foot screen. RF on the other hand was about 3,000 feet which hurt the Dodgers that first year since they had been built for Ebbets short RF. It was the weirdest looking outfield you'd ever want to see. It made the Polo Grounds outfield look normal in comparison.

batmanZoSo
05-22-2006, 03:06 PM
LA Coliseum was something like 251 down the LF line and they had a 50 foot screen. RF on the other hand was about 3,000 feet which hurt the Dodgers that first year since they had been built for Ebbets short RF.

Yeah, a total joke of a park. Only back in those days would a team play in such an unfit venue.

http://www.andrewclem.com/Baseball/Diag/MemorialColiseum.gif


http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/lamem4.jpg

Man there are some truly brutal sightlines in some spots. :o:

batmanZoSo
05-22-2006, 03:08 PM
How about this forgotten piece of junk in Arlington. My only memory of it is Ventura getting punched in the skull by Nolan Ryan, which I remember watching live when I was about 11.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/arlingtonuse.jpg

Fenway
05-22-2006, 03:08 PM
can't forget another weird stadium Exhibtion in Toronto ( home of the meanest seagulls I have ever seen )

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/exhibi01.jpg

Braves Field is not remembered by anyone outside of Boston ( with the exception of Cleveland )
http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/braves04.jpg
Metropolitan in Bloomington is now Mall of America
http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/metrop01.jpg

batmanZoSo
05-22-2006, 03:15 PM
How about the Urinal West, or LA Wrigley Field. Has the unmistakeably Wrigley-esque facade. Really not a bad looking park for its time in my opinion. Left field consists of nothing but an ivy covered brick wall--no seats. I watched many of the old, old Home Run derby shows on ESPN Classic when they used this park.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/lawrig2.jpg

viagracat
05-22-2006, 03:44 PM
LA Coliseum was something like 251 down the LF line and they had a 50 foot screen. RF on the other hand was about 3,000 feet which hurt the Dodgers that first year since they had been built for Ebbets short RF.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/laxcol01.jpg

Wow! Left-handed hitters could fuhgedaboudit. Righties could bunt the ball out the park. Weird...:o:

goofymsfan
05-22-2006, 04:45 PM
I went with Sicks Stadium mostly because it is now the home of a Lowes Hardware. :(: Cheney Stadium in Tacoma still has a few of the seats that were once in Seals Stadium and then in Sicks stadium. They replaced most of the seats last year, but saved a small section of them.

eastchicagosoxfan
05-22-2006, 07:28 PM
I voted for League Park. It wasn't even used full time after the 1940's. That explains why I really had to think about when it was replaced by Municipal Stadium. The others, including the Seattle Stadium, as well as Montreal's, while not known to the fans of the White Sox, are certainly remembered by fans of their respective franchises. But League Park, I've never even seen a film clip about it. Wrigley Field in LA was where the old Home Run Derby show was filmed. The Braves were the first team to relocate in 1953(?), I believe. Bill Veeck owned the Browns when they played in Sportsmans Park, which is why I remember it.

TheKittle
05-22-2006, 07:49 PM
I would add the park in DC where the first two Senators played. The second Senators, for only a couple years before what is now RFK was built.

I believe it's a medical school and/or hospital now.

Huisj
05-22-2006, 10:45 PM
Comiskey is probably one of them, considering it always seems to get left off of video games when they have an assortment of retro parks.

Many parks deserve to be forgotten, namely the donuts of the 60s and 70s, which have all bitten the dust. How about Jarry Park in Montreal, predecessor to the Olympique Stadium.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/Jarrypark.jpg

There have been lots of bizarre venues, such as the LA Coliseum for the Dodgers when they first moved and Mile High stadium, where the Rockies played their first two years. They "rolled" half the grandstand into left field. I still can't believe they turned that place into a baseball diamond.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/milehi02.jpg

If I recall right, Mile High Stadium was originally built as a minor league baseball stadium. When the Broncos came to Denver, it was expanded a number of times, but they still played minor league baseball there for quite some time too, so it wasn't really too strange that the Rockies played there at first.

fuzzy_patters
05-22-2006, 11:23 PM
I voted "other" because I heard a rumor that Major League Baseball was played at Wrigley Field in the 1940's. I am sure that most are not aware that it was ever more than a AAAA park.

Flight #24
05-22-2006, 11:59 PM
Most forgotten?

It's got to be that one......you know which one I'm talking about.....it's the one with the.....it's on the tip of my tongue, any second now.......oh crap.

:wink:

TheOldRoman
05-23-2006, 12:06 AM
I would add the park in DC where the first two Senators played. The second Senators, for only a couple years before what is now RFK was built.

I believe it's a medical school and/or hospital now.
Griffith Stadium. I believe it was were Howard University currently stands.

LuvSox
05-23-2006, 12:18 AM
How about this forgotten piece of junk in Arlington. My only memory of it is Ventura getting punched in the skull by Nolan Ryan, which I remember watching live when I was about 11.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/arlingtonuse.jpg

Looks like a cereal bowl.

TheKittle
05-23-2006, 03:50 AM
How about the Urinal West, or LA Wrigley Field. Has the unmistakeably Wrigley-esque facade. Really not a bad looking park for its time in my opinion. Left field consists of nothing but an ivy covered brick wall--no seats. I watched many of the old, old Home Run derby shows on ESPN Classic when they used this park.

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/lawrig2.jpg

I remember an episode of the Munsters that was based at Chewing Gum Field West. It housed the LA Angels of the PCL who left after O' Malley stole the Brooklyn Dodgers from their rightful home. Not sure why that bastard O' Malley decided not to play at Chewing Gum Field West.

A couple years later Chewing Gum Field West would house the LA Angels, who became the California Angels, who became the Anaslime Angels, who became the Los Angeles Angels of Anaslime.

The reality is that the first major league baseball night game played at Chewing Gum Field was in 1961. Not 1988 like those scum think.

Fenway
05-23-2006, 08:12 AM
Not sure why that bastard O' Malley decided not to play at Chewing Gum Field West.

.

Wrigley Field 20,457 seats
L.A Coliseum 94,600 seats

That's why

pasquasroachclip
05-23-2006, 08:15 AM
How about the old Colt Stadium in Houston? It says it was dismantled and sent to Mexico to house a Mexican League team

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/coltst01.jpg

Viva Medias B's
05-23-2006, 08:26 AM
There is a great coffee table book titled Lost Ballparks that I am sure some of you have. It details many of these defunct ballparks. League Park was torn down in 1951 but a public municipal park was put in its place. Wrigley Field West was demolished in 1966, sitting fallow four years after the Angels moved to Chavez Ravine. They shared Dodger Stadium until the Big A in Anaheim was built in '66.

As for Braves Field in Boston, its right field grandstand survived and became the main grandstand of Nickerson Field which was where Boston University played their football games.

Fenway
05-23-2006, 08:32 AM
There is a great coffee table book titled Lost Ballparks that I am sure some of you have. It details many of these defunct ballparks. League Park was torn down in 1951 but a public municipal park was put in its place.

Only had 21,000 seats.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/league.htm

Veeck moved to The Mistake on the Lake fulltime in 1947, but according to ballparks.com a couple of things of note happened there

Joe DiMaggio set a record by hitting safely in his 56th consecutive game here on Wednesday, July 16, 1941.


Indians second baseman Bill Wambsganss made the only unassisted triple play in World Series history here on October 10, 1920 in game 5 against the Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers).


http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/american/league02.jpg

JohnBasedowYoda
05-23-2006, 11:10 AM
There have been lots of bizarre venues, such as the LA Coliseum for the Dodgers


I think the WS the Sox and Dodgers played there in '59 holds the record for highest attendance at a baseball game at about 100k. Some stat-head help me out on that one.

Toronto's original park was messed up, will try and find a shot of that.
edit: Talk about some steep stands!!
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/exhibuse.jpg

Paulwny
05-23-2006, 11:56 AM
I think the WS the Sox and Dodgers played there in '59 holds the record for highest attendance at a baseball game at about 100k. Some stat-head help me out on that one.


Gm 3-- 92,394
Gm 4-- 92,650
Gm 5-- 92,706

batmanZoSo
05-23-2006, 12:05 PM
Gm 3-- 92,394
Gm 4-- 92,650
Gm 5-- 92,706

So the Sox are on record as having won the highest attended game ever? (they won Game 5 and the fact has been mentioned here IIRC)

viagracat
05-23-2006, 12:15 PM
Gm 3-- 92,394
Gm 4-- 92,650
Gm 5-- 92,706

Of course, if you were sitting in right field there, you were closer to San Francisco than you were to home plate. What a bizarre venue for a baseball game.:o:

longshot7
05-23-2006, 01:22 PM
Of course, if you were sitting in right field there, you were closer to San Francisco than you were to home plate. What a bizarre venue for a baseball game.:o:

I've been to the Colisseum (not for baseball I'll admit), but the farthest up seats still aren't that bad as far as sightlines go. New Comiskey's old upper deck was way worse.

Baby Fisk
05-23-2006, 01:36 PM
Toronto's original park was messed up, will try and find a shot of that.
edit: Talk about some steep stands!!
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/exhibuse.jpg

Exhibition Stadium was a patchwork mess, never meant to house baseball. It was torn down in 1998. There are plans to construct a smaller stadium on the same property, primarily to house Toronto's new MLS soccer team: linky (http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/t280/stadium/).

StockdaleForVeep
05-23-2006, 02:10 PM
Id say southside park where the sox\stockings played from 01-10.

ewokpelts
05-23-2006, 02:44 PM
I voted "other" because I heard a rumor that Major League Baseball was played at Wrigley Field in the 1940's. I am sure that most are not aware that it was ever more than a AAAA park.i know we like to rip on the cubs, but they DID make the 1945 world series...how many times did WE make the WS between 1919-1959? ZERO.

the cubs did make the ws 7 times after thier last WS win....they didnt really start to suck until the first wrigley died, and his cheapskate son took over.

Gene

ewokpelts
05-23-2006, 02:48 PM
I remember an episode of the Munsters that was based at Chewing Gum Field West. It housed the LA Angels of the PCL who left after O' Malley stole the Brooklyn Dodgers from their rightful home. Not sure why that bastard O' Malley decided not to play at Chewing Gum Field West.

A couple years later Chewing Gum Field West would house the LA Angels, who became the California Angels, who became the Anaslime Angels, who became the Los Angeles Angels of Anaslime.

The reality is that the first major league baseball night game played at Chewing Gum Field was in 1961. Not 1988 like those scum think.simple...the la coliseum housed over 100k....the novelty of MLB being in la could let him have crowds in excess of 50k a night....so when dodger stadium got built, ticket scarcity would allow him to have near sellouts for a VERY LONG TIME.
Gene

Southsider101
05-23-2006, 05:29 PM
Does anyone remember Colt .45 Stadium? It was across the street from the Astrodome and like Parc Jarry, I believe it was a temporary ballpark only built to be used unitil the Astrodome was completed. Unfortunatly, this ballpark's lasing legacy is that outfielders used to stuff cans of bug spray in their back pockets before taking their position in the field during night games.

I've always had a soft spot for the old PCL ballparks like Seals Stadium and Sicks Stadium. However the Angles played at Los Angeles' Wrigley Field in 1961 in their first year in the AL. I believe that when Gene Autry was granted the francise, he had to pay the Cubs a territorial fee because they had a PCL team in LA for years.

DC Sox Fan
05-23-2006, 06:32 PM
Many parks deserve to be forgotten, namely the donuts of the 60s and 70s, which have all bitten the dust.



Unfortunately, you are incorrect. There is 1 donut stadium still standing, and it's the original one, opening in 1961:

http://www.baseballparks.com/Images/RFK-int480.jpg
Fortunately, she will only be standing for hopefully another couple years. "The Bobby" is old, run down, but hey at least I can see a game there after a 20 minute drive instead of having to go up to Balmur.

One of the most amazing football venues ever (note jack kent cooke's owners box still standing on the facade above and to the left of the 1B dugout, as well as the football press booth, covered up by the banner between the 2 light housings in the waaaay upper deck on the 1B line) and few obstructed views, but RFK is waaaaay past its prime.

TornLabrum
05-23-2006, 06:34 PM
The answer is obvious since it wasn't even on the list: Sick's Stadium (or something like that), home of the Seattle Pilots.

DC Sox Fan
05-23-2006, 06:41 PM
Also, good call on whoever mentioned griffith stadium, the Nats/Sens old park. Among its unique features were the insanely high outfield walls, and the "jut" in CF where one lone homeowner refused to sell out to developers. Also note how the stands down the lines aren't quite even, as for some reason they made the roof higher on the expanded sets towards the foul pole:
http://members.cox.net/crandall11/dc/senators/Griffith_1960.jpg

Looking from outside the left field fence towards home plate today (note you can see the rowhouses in both pictures)
http://www.andrewclem.com/Photos/Washington/HowardUniv_hospital.jpg

Here's a great site about old parks:
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/Past%20Ballparks.htm

batmanZoSo
05-23-2006, 07:03 PM
Unfortunately, you are incorrect. There is 1 donut stadium still standing, and it's the original one, opening in 1961:

http://www.baseballparks.com/Images/RFK-int480.jpg
Fortunately, she will only be standing for hopefully another couple years. "The Bobby" is old, run down, but hey at least I can see a game there after a 20 minute drive instead of having to go up to Balmur.

One of the most amazing football venues ever (note jack kent cooke's owners box still standing on the facade above and to the left of the 1B dugout, as well as the football press booth, covered up by the banner between the 2 light housings in the waaaay upper deck on the 1B line) and few obstructed views, but RFK is waaaaay past its prime.

Ah, of course. I sometimes forget the Nats even exist. At least that park has grass and overall looks nicer than Riverfront or 3Riv ever did, in my opinion. I always liked the wavy shape of the upper tier there.

santo=dorf
05-23-2006, 07:19 PM
Question for the old farts; how many flyball outs were recorded in RF that were absolutely crushed during the 1959 WS?

batmanZoSo
05-23-2006, 07:34 PM
Question for the old farts; how many flyball outs were recorded in RF that were absolutely crushed during the 1959 WS?

Well there was a chain link fence put up. The diagram I posted shows 300 down the line and 380 in the gap, which is respectable but only slightly above average.

Nellie_Fox
05-23-2006, 08:05 PM
Cincinatti was Crosley, not Crosby. I guess the fact that you got the name wrong says something about how well remembered it is.

TheKittle
05-24-2006, 12:24 AM
LA Coliseum was something like 251 down the LF line and they had a 50 foot screen. RF on the other hand was about 3,000 feet which hurt the Dodgers that first year since they had been built for Ebbets short RF.

http://www.ballparks.com/baseball/national/laxcol01.jpg

Campy was a pull hitter and that short fence was perfect for him.

If he didn't get into that car accident, he may have broken Ruth's single season HR record.

Railsplitter
05-24-2006, 09:35 AM
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/lamem4.jpg

Man there are some truly brutal sightlines in some spots. :o:

I'd say most spots.

Railsplitter
05-24-2006, 09:39 AM
I'd say Ebbets Field, simply becuase of all the literature about it.

From what I've heard about Sicks Stadium, that place was sick, period. :tongue:

Braves Field is till in use, remodled as Boston University's Nickerson Stadium

mccoydp
05-24-2006, 10:09 AM
FWIW, I'm really enjoying this thread...lots of good info.

Please keep the trivia coming!

Railsplitter
05-24-2006, 12:30 PM
Allow me to correct myself Ebbets Field is probably the most MISSED ball park.

C-Dawg
05-24-2006, 12:42 PM
Cincinatti was Crosley, not Crosby. I guess the fact that you got the name wrong says something about how well remembered it is.

I was just reading through all 4 pages of this thread to see if anyone beat me to it - and the one guy who did, mispelled "Cincinnati".

:rolleyes: I'm just teasing you of course, but having lived there as a kid its one thing we all learned early. Never went to the old place, though, but I did manage two games at Riverfront.

vegyrex
05-24-2006, 12:58 PM
i know we like to rip on the cubs, but they DID make the 1945 world series...how many times did WE make the WS between 1919-1959? ZERO.


But how many world series championship cub teams have playing at Wrigley? ZERO!! :smile:

Fenway
05-24-2006, 01:43 PM
Braves Field is till in use, remodled as Boston University's Nickerson Stadium

Braves Field (now Nickerson) may have a record for the most leagues that have played games there

National (Braves)
American (Red Sox) Sunday games and World Series. Red Sox couldn't use Fenway on Sundays for years because it was near a church
NFL Football Boston football Braves ( now Redskins ) Boston Yanks
AFL Football Patriots
USFL Football Breakers
NASL Soccer Teamen
WUSA Soccer Breakers
Lacross (currently) Canyons

SoxFan64
05-24-2006, 02:40 PM
I would add the park in DC where the first two Senators played. The second Senators, for only a couple years before what is now RFK was built.

I believe it's a medical school and/or hospital now.

Kittle,

You are correct -- sir. It is was called Griffith Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffith_Stadium), 7th and Florida Ave, NW. It was DC's answer to NYC's Harlem or Chicago's Bronzeville. Griffith was right next door to Howard University. It is now the site of the Howard University Hospital.

Like Bronzeville, the area was hurting for many years. But with the revival of DC and the growth around the new Metro stop and the build out from the White House (about two miles south of Howard Univeristy) it is becoming a nice place to live.

But yes, I went by it yesterday and there not a mention of it outside. I am told there is a mention of Griffith Stadium inside the reception area.

And Griffith like old Comiskey was the site of many great Negro League games and the latter day home park of Josh Gibson.

So my vote was for "other" and Griffith Stadium. I would have also liked to have voted for old Comiskey or the original Sox Park (now Wentworth Gardens -- IIRC).

Anyone have pictures of the original Sox Park??

SoxFan64
05-24-2006, 02:42 PM
Griffith Stadium. I believe it was were Howard University currently stands.

Just the Hospital. The Univeristy pre-dates the Stadium by about 50 years.

MisterB
05-24-2006, 07:07 PM
Anyone have pictures of the original Sox Park??

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/cdnquery.html

Search under 'south side park'.

Sox-on-TV44
05-26-2006, 10:33 AM
it was
http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/sicksstadium59.jpg

Voted for Sick Stadium.Here what it would have looked like if the Pilots didn't bolt for Milwaukee.
http://www.seattlepilots.com/stadium.jpg

Arlington Stadium.Didn't they have that scoreboard that looked like the shape of the state of Texas once?

VenturaSoxFan23
05-26-2006, 01:09 PM
I chose Metropolitan Stadium in Minnesota.