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Mercy!
05-22-2006, 01:43 AM
Is he kidding?


Zambrano had to be restrained by teammates after Pierzynski hit his home run and pointed to the sky the way Zambrano does when he comes off the mound. After the game, Zambrano said it was not the pointing that bothered him.

"He said something, but I didn't hear because the crowd was so loud," Zambrano said. "I looked at him, and that was a mistake."

Zambrano said he told Joey Cora, the White Sox' third-base coach, to "keep your guy calm."

Pierzynski said he pointed to sky for personal reasons, not to show up Zambrano. He said: "I clapped my hands, and the next thing I know, he and Cora are yelling at each other. I have no idea. I didn't say a word. I didn't do anything. I didn't stand there and watch it; I ran."

http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2006/05/22/sports/baseball/22cubs.html&tntemail1=y

I don't follow the Cubs so I wasn't prepared to see Zambrano take his cap off and point to the sky after every inning when he went back to his dugout. Aren't his teammates embarassed by all that hot dogging? Does he do that every time he pitches?

FedEx227
05-22-2006, 01:46 AM
Aren't his teammates embarassed by all that hot dogging? Does he do that every time he pitches?
Yes every time he pitches, it gets really annoying and many, many fans and players of other teams have spoken about it.

But apparently it's cute and hes merely trying to show his intense desire to win when he does it.

Yet, when AJ slaps the plate he's showing Michael Barrett up.

Welcome to Chicago.

oeo
05-22-2006, 01:47 AM
Is he kidding?


http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2006/05/22/sports/baseball/22cubs.html&tntemail1=y

I don't follow the Cubs so I wasn't prepared to see Zambrano take his cap off and point to the sky after every inning when he went back to his dugout. Aren't his teammates embarassed by all that hot dogging? Does he do that every time he pitches?

Yes, and haven't you noticed the way he goes absolutely whacko over a strikeout? This guy is a nutcase, and it's really easy to get to his head. He needs to just shut his mouth. AJ said something, but you couldn't hear it? How do you know he was talking to you, how do you know he said anything at all? Maybe he said your hair looked nice today. If you didn't hear anything, you shouldn't be going crazy.

RadioheadRocks
05-22-2006, 01:47 AM
Hmmmmm, Zambozo apparently graduated at the top of his class in the DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO school.

****ing hypocrite!

FedEx227
05-22-2006, 01:48 AM
AJ said something, but you couldn't hear it? How do you know he was talking to you, how do you know he said anything at all? Maybe he said your hair looked nice today. If you didn't hear anything, you shouldn't be going crazy.

The Cubs have been great this weekend at blowing up over assumptions.

TheKittle
05-22-2006, 01:50 AM
I was going to give that idiot the benefit of the doubt when he hit Iggy. But after the **** with AJ and Cora, **** that bastard. I bet he won't pitch when the Sox going slumming and play at Chewing Gum Field. If he does, somebody better put him on his brain.

RadioheadRocks
05-22-2006, 01:51 AM
AJ said something, but you couldn't hear it? How do you know he was talking to you, how do you know he said anything at all? Maybe he said your hair looked nice today.


I'm thinking it was more like "Gee your hair smells terrific". :rolling:

TheOldRoman
05-22-2006, 01:55 AM
I don't want to retaliate against these low-life losers when we go to the Urinal, I want to win three ****ing games.
However, if we are going to retaliate, I want to see Zambrano's helmet shatter like Sosa's did. Nobody, not even Barrette, deserves it as much as Zambrano. It is only a matter of time until someone has enough of his crap and puts an end to it.
Once again, Zambrano's antics are "cute and loveable" to the Chicago media, but they are despicable and gutless when replicated by others. How do I love the yellow Chicago sports media? Let me count the ways...

StillMissOzzie
05-22-2006, 01:58 AM
Hmmmmm, Zambozo apparently graduated at the top of his class in the DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO school.

****ing hypocrite!

As well as excelling at Mr. Dish It Out But Can't Take It.
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.

SMO
:gulp:

Mercy!
05-22-2006, 02:04 AM
As well as excelling at Mr. Dish It Out But Can't Take It.
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.
Do you remember when Jose Valentin did the little Sham-mee heart tap-kiss-kiss thing in the dugout during one of the Sox-Cubs games? I thought it was great. And I hope AJ was fibbing in the article about his intentions.

oeo
05-22-2006, 02:14 AM
As well as excelling at Mr. Dish It Out But Can't Take It.
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.

SMO
:gulp:

Regardless of what AJ was doing, Zambozo is a grown man and shouldn't get all worked up about it. Especially, like you said, doing the same thing after every inning. If you're going to look like a total idiot out there, be ready to get mocked because of it. Don't want it to happen? Stop looking like a moron.

ilsox7
05-22-2006, 02:18 AM
Regardless of what AJ was doing, Zambozo is a grown man and shouldn't get all worked up about it. Especially, like you said, doing the same thing after every inning. If you're going to look like a total idiot out there, be ready to get mocked because of it. Don't want it to happen? Stop looking like a moron.

Sadly, he is not. He is a 24 year old, immature kid who has grown up in an organization that has no concept of what the word 'accountability' means, thus he has been shwon his entire professional life that he can do and act in any way and will not be disciplined for it.

HotelWhiteSox
05-22-2006, 02:27 AM
It baffles me how a chicken**** NL pitcher has not put one through his ears, the way he goes around showing players up, many time in the middle of the inning, and he always gets the free pass

QCIASOXFAN
05-22-2006, 02:28 AM
Sadly, he is not. He is a 24 year old, immature kid who has grown up in an organization that has no concept of what the word 'accountability' means, thus he has been shwon his entire professional life that he can do and act in any way and will not be disciplined for it. I'll drink to that. You don't see any other pitchers freak out like he does year after year, and in almost every game he pitches in he does something completely stupid.

Bobbo35
05-22-2006, 08:15 AM
Zambrano is a complete and udder moron. Oh, I can act like a fool on the mound jumping everytime I get a strike out, make a scene coming off the field, but god for bid a person on the other team shows emotion.

Mots09
05-22-2006, 08:52 AM
Instead of praising the skies he might as well praise his fielders for making plays behind him.

He is a nut job.

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 09:28 AM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=2642&stc=1

One of my favorites....

stl_sox_fan
05-22-2006, 09:38 AM
If there is charma out there, Carlos will get tennis elbow (http://www.nwherald.com/CommunitySection/olson/284776291082800.php) again chatting with his brother online about this incident.

Hangar18
05-22-2006, 09:48 AM
Zambozo is an idiot. Hes always lost his cool when people hit HR's off of him
This is just another moment in his long bizarre history. Seeing what happened the day before, the Umps shoudlve Tossed him for trying to INSTIGATE ANOTHER FIGHT.

viagracat
05-22-2006, 10:17 AM
I could've sworn I saw Zambozo flip the bird to AJ during that incident.

daveeym
05-22-2006, 10:20 AM
It baffles me how a chicken**** NL pitcher has not put one through his ears, the way he goes around showing players up, many time in the middle of the inning, and he always gets the free pass Just one of those unwritten rules. Take it out on the cleanup hitter don't get pitchers going after pitchers.

Irishsox1
05-22-2006, 10:29 AM
Why is it when guys like Sosa and Zambozo point up to the sky, double tap their chest, blow kisses and all that crap, why is it when it's done to them they get pissed off? How about you stop doing it and then people might stop making fun of you.

Carl Everett had some big hits for the Sox, but his whole point up to the sky act was and is really lame. My question is why didn't he do it after he strikes out? That's when I would be pointing up to the sky!

mcfish
05-22-2006, 10:30 AM
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.

SMO
:gulp:If I remember correctly, AJ points to the sky all the time after hitting a homerun. He just hasn't hit but 2 this year, so we might have forgotten.

(P.S. that is not an indictment of AJ's hitting. I'll take a .340 average any day - regardless of HR total.)

vegyrex
05-22-2006, 10:34 AM
Do you remember when Jose Valentin did the little Sham-mee heart tap-kiss-kiss thing in the dugout during one of the Sox-Cubs games? I thought it was great. And I hope AJ was fibbing in the article about his intentions.

Jose got blasted by Santo for doing that. Santo said something to the effect "Don't make fun of Sammy, not my Sammy, not in his home."

Yeah sure, whatever you say Ronnie. :rolleyes:

I loved what Jose did. :smile:

Hangar18
05-22-2006, 10:36 AM
Why is it when guys like Sosa and Zambozo point up to the sky, double tap their chest, blow kisses and all that crap, why is it when it's done to them they get pissed off? How about you stop doing it and then people might stop making fun of you.

Carl Everett had some big hits for the Sox, but his whole point up to the sky act was and is really lame. My question is why didn't he do it after he strikes out? That's when I would be pointing up to the sky!

Sosa would do this in the duguout. Zambozo shows up players every INNING. He tried to instigate more, but nothing happened

kninchicago
05-22-2006, 10:38 AM
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.

Also, he frequently (and subtly) makes the sign of the cross before he's up to bat, so I believe it too. Seems like a pretty religious guy.

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 10:45 AM
As well as excelling at Mr. Dish It Out But Can't Take It.
BTW, I'm not buying AJ's "personal reasons" excuse for his own pointing skyward gesture. I think he was trying to get into Zambrano's head, and it obviously worked quite well.

SMO
:gulp:

After the game, Zambozo said that he didn't even see AJ point at the sky. Zambozo loses his cool when he thinks a player is showing him up. AJ had the audacity to clap about his own home run. What a jerk!

BRDSR
05-22-2006, 10:46 AM
Do you remember when Jose Valentin did the little Sham-mee heart tap-kiss-kiss thing in the dugout during one of the Sox-Cubs games? I thought it was great. And I hope AJ was fibbing in the article about his intentions.
At the end of this thread (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71838) a poster talks about how AJ had been talking about some personal problems in the post game interview of Sunday's game. I didn't see the interview but I can imagine that these might be the same personal issues he is reffering to about the skyward point.

One way or the other, I hope everything is alright in the Pierzynski family. It would be a shame if AJ couldn't enjoy the great season he's having because of off-field issues.

PennStater98r
05-22-2006, 10:55 AM
The Cubs have been great this weekend at blowing up over assumptions.

You see it's a tube, and it has assumptions all over it - you blow each one up individually - it's called a "Blow Up Over Assumptions" tube...

ChiSox Fan 68
05-22-2006, 10:59 AM
At the end of this thread (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71838) a poster talks about how AJ had been talking about some personal problems in the post game interview of Saturday's game. I didn't see the interview but I can imagine that these might be the same personal issues he is reffering to about the skyward point.

One way or the other, I hope everything is alright in the Pierzynski family. It would be a shame if AJ couldn't enjoy the great season he's having because of off-field issues.

I saw that interview too and it was troubling. AJ seemed upset and irritated - very unlike how he was after the game on Saturday, joking about his wrestling career. Hope everything is OK with him.

MVP
05-22-2006, 12:03 PM
It baffles me how a chicken**** NL pitcher has not put one through his ears, the way he goes around showing players up, many time in the middle of the inning, and he always gets the free pass


I think it's only a matter of time before Zambrano gets his. I don't want it to come from the Sox though. I wouldn't want any of our players suspended for fighting with these douche bags.

Uncle_Patrick
05-22-2006, 12:48 PM
The Cubs have been great this weekend at blowing up over assumptions.

By the way, lost in all the observations of AJ's pointing at the sky is the truth regarding Zambozo's claim that AJ said something to him first:



''I'm under a microscope all of the time,'' Pierzynski said. ''It gets tiring after a while because I'm sick of dealing with stuff when I don't do anything.''

Didn't do anything? Zambrano claims Pierzynski yelled something at him first. What did he yell?

Zambrano: ''He looked at me and he said something. I don't want him to get me going.''

Pierzynski: ''I didn't say a word.''

Replays tend to side with Pierzynski.


From Chris DeLuca's column today.

Chip Z'nuff
05-22-2006, 12:59 PM
My take on it is Zambozo was trying to instigate a fight with aj and the sox so WE would get suspended, as a suspension to us could mean the difference between first and a wild card slot in the playoffs at this point in the season. And even a 10 day suspension to Bozo equals two missed starts that they would have probably lossed anyway. (could give a **** about the rest of his team being suspended)

Corlose 15
05-22-2006, 05:33 PM
Also, he frequently (and subtly) makes the sign of the cross before he's up to bat, so I believe it too. Seems like a pretty religious guy.

No, no its Michael Barret thats the religous guy. AJ and and his awful instigator attitude just pushed him over the line so much that a religous guy had to punch him. Just ask Moronotti.

Infallible
05-22-2006, 06:49 PM
Sadly, he is not. He is a 24 year old, immature kid who has grown up in an organization that has no concept of what the word 'accountability' means, thus he has been shwon his entire professional life that he can do and act in any way and will not be disciplined for it.

Hmm that sounds like much of society these days......

chidonez
05-22-2006, 07:18 PM
AJ just called Mariotti out on ESPNN. Apparently, the Hiney Bird has never set foot in the clubhouse.

Layla
05-22-2006, 09:51 PM
Why is it when guys like Sosa and Zambozo point up to the sky, double tap their chest, blow kisses and all that crap, why is it when it's done to them they get pissed off? How about you stop doing it and then people might stop making fun of you.



Because it's so cute when Zambrano does it.

jehosaphat
05-22-2006, 10:33 PM
I think Zambrano is an imature, albeit talented, hothead. He is oblivious to how his "antics" make him look and reflect on his team. He has a reputation as a guy who is intense, which is OK, but he also is a guy who gets rattled and let's his emotions translate into poor decisions and poor play on the field.

I think Baker is a lousy manager, and his handling of Zambrano is another example. Baker should have at least tried to help Zambrano get control of his emotions when he breaking in with the organization. Now it is probably too late - Zambrano has had some success and is a prima dona who can't be told anything. Lots of luck trying to change Zambrano now.

In the long run Zambrano's behavior is going to hurt himself more than it will hurt others. He's a jerk, but not as big of a jerk as Barry Bonds. That's about the best that can be said about him.

Viva Medias B's
05-22-2006, 11:36 PM
Apparently, the Hiney Bird has never set foot in the clubhouse.

Not since Tony Phillips put Moronotti in his place.

mrkslntbob
05-23-2006, 01:39 AM
Zambrano said he told Joey Cora, the White Sox' third-base coach, to "keep your guy calm."


Zambrano demanding that somebody "keep calm"?
Wow, if only everyone could be as calm as Carlos Zambrano. :rolleyes:

Vestigio
05-23-2006, 02:07 AM
Im suprised that nobody brought up that Zambozo did his little routine after striking out Iguchi (IIRC) in the BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING.

PeteWard
05-23-2006, 07:22 AM
Is he kidding?


http://select.nytimes.com/mem/tnt.html?emc=tnt&tntget=2006/05/22/sports/baseball/22cubs.html&tntemail1=y

I don't follow the Cubs so I wasn't prepared to see Zambrano take his cap off and point to the sky after every inning when he went back to his dugout. Aren't his teammates embarassed by all that hot dogging? Does he do that every time he pitches?

Didn't you know that God takes a personal interest in whether Zambrano's sinker is working?

Steelrod
05-23-2006, 07:44 AM
I think Zambrano is an imature, albeit talented, hothead. He is oblivious to how his "antics" make him look and reflect on his team. He has a reputation as a guy who is intense, which is OK, but he also is a guy who gets rattled and let's his emotions translate into poor decisions and poor play on the field.

I think Baker is a lousy manager, and his handling of Zambrano is another example. Baker should have at least tried to help Zambrano get control of his emotions when he breaking in with the organization. Now it is probably too late - Zambrano has had some success and is a prima dona who can't be told anything. Lots of luck trying to change Zambrano now.

In the long run Zambrano's behavior is going to hurt himself more than it will hurt others. He's a jerk, but not as big of a jerk as Barry Bonds. That's about the best that can be said about him.Give him time, he will be!

Hangar18
05-23-2006, 09:54 AM
Hangar to Zambrano: "Shut the **** Up and pitch" (before you get Dusty Fired.