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BRDSR
05-21-2006, 12:15 AM
Alright. I know, I know. The moral part of me wants the White Sox to be the bigger men here and refrain from any non-baseball activities tomorrow. And the practical side of me doesn't want to see the offending pitcher, Ozzie Guillen, and whoever else gets involved suspended for long periods of time. And the proud side of me wants to let the play speak for itself as we rout the Cubs for a 3rd time and sweep them tomorrow.

But there is a side of me that I cannot ignore that would absolutely love to see a Cubs player take one, at least in the back of the thigh, to show them and baseball that you cannot cold-cock our catcher for no good reason.

What are you hoping for tomorrow?

Blob
05-21-2006, 12:17 AM
At this point, let it go.

I feel though, someone will probably do something if the game is not a close one at the end.

ChiSoxRowand
05-21-2006, 12:17 AM
I'm sure both teams will be warned before the game, so if Jose hits someone there is a good chance he will be ejected.

SOecks
05-21-2006, 12:19 AM
Hell no. Lets just shut them out again and watch them continue to cry like the little babies they are. We can do all our talking on the field.

SoxSpeed22
05-21-2006, 12:20 AM
Look at the scoreboard for the last two games. Let's just make it three.

SectionBNole
05-21-2006, 12:23 AM
I want the broom. If someone gets beaned so be it.

tehwhitesoxrulz
05-21-2006, 12:24 AM
Look at the scoreboard for the last two games. Let's just make it three.That's what i'm thinking let's show who the better team is and earn the win which is all that's important

Trav
05-21-2006, 12:25 AM
A fight is a fight. It's over. If AJ plays tomorrow and gets plunked, then it's a different story. As a matter of fact, if anyone gets plunked on the Sox then it is a different story. Both benches will be warned, however and that pitcher will be ejected. I would much rather see Jose pitch 7 strong and get the W than Jose tossed early.

QCIASOXFAN
05-21-2006, 12:28 AM
I see Carlos Zambozo getting behind and losing his cool (which happens every start) which leads to him hitting A.J. or Anderson which in turn will get him tossed from the game and we will not have a chance to retaliate.

SouthSide_HitMen
05-21-2006, 12:32 AM
I see Carlos Zambozo getting behind and losing his cool (which happens every start) which leads to him hitting A.J. or Anderson which in turn will get him tossed from the game and we will not have a chance to retaliate.

Revenge is better served cold. Beat their ass tomorrow on the field and than take care of this nonsense down the road if you feel you must. Umpires will be very strict tomorrow with a trigger happy bias and with the suspensions coming down I'd like to keep the White Sox side of the suspension list at a minimum.

Unlike the Cubs, we have something to play for this season. :cool:

Banix12
05-21-2006, 12:37 AM
Iguchi's bat did enough retaliating yesterday.

I just hope this matter is done and the sox can go back to beating up the cubs out of an emotion of fun instead of anger.

It's Time
05-21-2006, 12:42 AM
Zambrano drilled A.J. right in the back last year at Wrigley. That was the game he had a 1 hit shutout going before the pen came in and then Paulie hit the drive off Patterson's glove in the 8th.:redneck

I EXPECT Zambrano to do something. I'll be stunned if he doesn't. This guy drills everyone (Edmonds, CLee, A.J. and a host of others).

However, if he doesn't, you can pretty much guarantee that there will be another brawl at Wrigley, with Brian Anderson being the target of a Wood or Zambrano fastball.

The Cubs suck and they couldn't care less at this point.

Chips
05-21-2006, 12:47 AM
There's no need to get any of our guys suspended. Anderson already got Mabry and Podsednik got Barrett good enough. Let's just win the damn game.

Hendu
05-21-2006, 01:04 AM
The last thing we need is to get into a bean ball war with a crappy team, thus risking injury or suspension. Let's get our retaliation on the field by sweeping that sad excuse for a team.

IlliniSox4Life
05-21-2006, 01:44 AM
If Barrett is up with 2 outs and nobody on and we are leading in the late innings by more than two runs, i don't have a problem with it. Or if the idiot Zambrano does, I don't (unless you want to wait untill Wrigley and throw at Z)

StockdaleForVeep
05-21-2006, 02:29 AM
Whats to prove? Barrett started the fight and he lost, if anythin the cubs would do somethin to save face\pride

Was i the only one annoyed by this fight for the simple fact that i didnt wanna see the ticker reading some player of ours got hurt and is out. I dont wanna lose an injury\brawl on a worthless team like the cubs.

pmck003
05-21-2006, 02:47 AM
While a loss wouldn't matter much, a broom against the dudettes would be awesome. Only thing that could make this series bad would be fighting against a team that has nothing to lose as they are destined for (insert: last place NL central, Last place Chicago, first place whoaa yea I am aht man I like tha cuevs) I hung up the gloves and I hope the sox did the same route.

kwolf68
05-21-2006, 02:50 AM
Just sweep them...with each loss, the Pirates get a little closer to pushing these "Lovable" LOSERS to last place.

hawkjt
05-21-2006, 03:00 AM
yea, the sox have too much at stake her. Look at how easy it is for a pitcher to separate a shoulder, or any kind of injury. We got high priced talent out there that I want to watch the rest of the year.

Just beat the hell out of them on the field and if they start something let them get ejected,suspended and look like thugs to the whole world.

TDog
05-21-2006, 05:13 AM
Friday, the Sox embarrassed the Cubs by knocking around their best pitcher and shutting down their offense. Saturday the Sox made the Cubs look worse, not only shutting them out, but exposing them for the unlovable losers they are.

I have only heard what national radio is saying about the incident and read what the Tribune and Associated Press wrote about it. The Cubs look bad. Their catcher took a violent action against a player who got the better of him in the game, and his teammates responded from that very point by getting the crap kicked out of them.

And with America coming into the game believing the lovable Cubs are Chicago's team, the Cubs are exposed as inferior baseballers of inferior character. The Sox won more than the game. Tomorrow, I don't expect anyone to ask me why after growing up in the Chicago area I am not a Cubs fan. Sox Pride, man.

The Sox have no reason to retaliate.

Grzegorz
05-21-2006, 05:47 AM
Leave two impressions clear in the mind of Chicago baseball fans:
* The White Sox are the better team hands down
* The Cubs are poor losers with classless players

Don't retaliate; unless they Cubs become the belligerents.

TornLabrum
05-21-2006, 06:31 AM
I look at this as a practical matter. If we retaliate someone else gets suspended. We can afford to lose Anderson's bat for a few games (although I'll miss his D), but do we really want another pitcher to lose a turn? I don't.

LongLiveFisk
05-21-2006, 07:44 AM
I think the Sox should let it go. No sense risking injury over some team that is essentially irrelevant anyway.

soxinem1
05-21-2006, 07:51 AM
Funny, the cubs and their fans are the ones who say coming to The Cell is an unsafe and unruly experience. Too bad they forgot to mention it is them who bring the unsafe and unruly attitude. I hope they enjoyed their nationally televised a**-whipping!!

A part of me wants to nail Barrett if the Sox are up 5-0 in the 7th, but Dusty may not even play him today. Then to have Contreras be the target of Prior/Wood/Zambrano next month as a hitter may not be too smart.

soxinthecity
05-21-2006, 08:03 AM
Why risk it, it's not worth the effort they will try to get to us to lose are cool but we have more to lose than they do, are season is still going and theirs is over they've got nothing to play for not even pride.

We can send a better message with cool heads, hard nose play and taking home a win and a sweep.

Layla
05-21-2006, 08:10 AM
No need to retaliate.

All we need is get Zambrano early, have him go nuts, watch him get taken off the field in a straight jacket.

I would much rather have a sweep, then someone ejected.

Viva Medias B's
05-21-2006, 08:20 AM
If Zambrano does something stupid like plunking Podsednik or Pierzynski, he'll be immediately tossed. I am sure the warnings will be in effect at the moment of first pitch.

24thStFan
05-21-2006, 08:34 AM
Unlike the Cubs, we have something to play for this season. :cool:

You're right, SouthSide. We're in a pennant race, the Cubs are racing to stay out of the basement in their division. The Sox need to be professional, take care of business, sweep the Cubs, and move on.

We need to focus on the Tigers, Indians, Twins, etc. more than the Cubs. The Cubs are irrelevant.

TornLabrum
05-21-2006, 08:44 AM
You're right, SouthSide. We're in a pennant race, the Cubs are racing to stay out of the basement in their division. The Sox need to be professional, take care of business, sweep the Cubs, and move on.

We need to focus on the Tigers, Indians, Twins, etc. more than the Cubs. The Cubs are irrelevant.

The Cubs are not totally irrelevant. Every win against them is one more win on the way to the post-season.

Dan H
05-21-2006, 08:45 AM
I agree with the posters who pointed out the obvious: The White Sox have something to play for, and the Cubs are already finished. They are just not worth the effort. The Sox-Cubs games, up until this point, were most well played as the two teams played with real pride. Barrett' s punch was just plain dumb. Let the Cubs sink down to new lows. While their fans revel in the bars around Wrigley, Sox fans can look forward to another post seasons at US Cellular.

24thStFan
05-21-2006, 08:49 AM
The Cubs are not totally irrelevant. Every win against them is one more win on the way to the post-season.

They're irrelevant in the long term sense. Sure , we want the sweep today and three more Ws at the Urinal.

TornLabrum
05-21-2006, 08:50 AM
They're irrelevant in the long term sense. Sure , we want the sweep today and three more Ws at the Urinal.
Post-season = long term. Each win = one less we need later. However, as far as caring about them? **** 'em.

rightsox
05-21-2006, 08:57 AM
If Zambrano does something stupid like plunking Podsednik or Pierzynski, he'll be immediately tossed. I am sure the warnings will be in effect at the moment of first pitch.

If he does, so much the better! Maybe Iguchi will have 7 RBI today. :D:

Bring your brooms!

tick53
05-21-2006, 09:39 AM
If he does, so much the better! Maybe Iguchi will have 7 RBI today. :D:

Bring your brooms!

Yes, I'm getting mine warmed up now!:sweep :D:

viagracat
05-21-2006, 10:08 AM
Unless Baker is truly dumber than I tell people, there will be no incidents today unless Zambozo does something all on his own. He's already lost Derrek Lee, Mabry is hurt and Barrett will be suspended. Losing Zambrano to a long suspension will further decimate the team and really indicate to the world that Baker has truly lost control of his team and cast them in the same unlovable loser/crybaby vein as the 2004 squad. Except for Moronotti, who isn't taken seriously by anybody but the Peyton Place crowd, the Cubs are already on the wrong side of this incident. I'm guessing Cub brass has already told the team it's just not worth it.

As far as the Sox goes, their eye is on the bigger prize and for that reason there will be no reason to come down to the Cubs' level and start something that will lead to a suspension and/or injury. We have something to play for.

Play ball.

EdHerman12
05-21-2006, 10:14 AM
Zambrano is a nut job :kukoo: . I think as long as he's pitching and doen't get rocked things will be ok. Should the Sox turn the choppers loose on him ....then I would look for the fireworks to begin....As far as all the Cubs fans that justify what Barret did I say..:pee on the Cubs!

GO SOX!

vegyrex
05-21-2006, 10:19 AM
Just win, just win. That's the only thing that matters.:smile:

The Racehorse
05-21-2006, 10:31 AM
I would think Pierzynski subscribes to the theory that no matter how many brain cells a Polish-guy burns out with his drinking, he never forgets.

AJ will get even with Barret when the time is right.