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soxinthecity
05-14-2006, 09:29 PM
Though it still would be nice to pounce on the losers:whiner: from the north side, is the hype gone since we as Sox fans have the ultimate bragging rights, a World Series:bandance: .

SoxFan76
05-14-2006, 09:33 PM
Yeah, I'm going Friday and I'm about as excited to go as I am for any other game. So I'm still pumped, but the fact that they're playing the Cubs isn't making it anymore exciting.

sox_fan_forever
05-14-2006, 09:34 PM
For me, the thrill is definitely gone. I could care less about it outside of the fact that I want the Sox to win, but then...I always want them to win. :redneck But as for the whole bragging rights thing...definitely could care less. A few years ago I was really into it, but not so much anymore. I am going to one of the games next weekend, but only because it's the first Sox game I can go to after getting home from college. I have tasted a greater victory, and I like it much better. :bandance:

TheOldRoman
05-14-2006, 10:25 PM
Jugding by the prices tickets are going for on ebay, the thrill if definately gone. Some tickets were going for twice as much last year.
Of course, there are usually a lot of Cubs "fans" there. Many of them will stay away this year because a) the Cubs are horrible, so they have already given up on the season; or b) the Sox won the friggin World Series, and they don't want to have to put up with non-stop taunting.

Also, I know several Sox fans that don't want to go to Sox-Cubs games anymore. They have been to the games in the past, and they don't want to have to deal with the low-life Cubs fans. They saw first hand what trouble that element causes, and don't want to be around it. That goes especially for this year; the drunken Cubs fans are going to be extra surly after all the taunting, and punches will be thrown. After seeing these people come to our park to start fights, get piss drunk, stand and/or talk on cellphones while the game is going on, piss in the sinks, vandalize, and scream obscenities in the midst of children, I can't blame them.

I am going on Friday and Sunday, but only because I am a partial season ticket holder. The games don't mean as much to me as they did in previous years. It is just another game, and I wouldn't pay over face value to see this series. It is always good to pound the Cubs, but there are no bragging rights on the line this time.:cool:

Max Power
05-14-2006, 10:26 PM
To me the thrill started to wear off a few years ago, with last year obviously having the biggest impact. Playing 2 series every year has really driven it into the ground. At this point I'd rather play some other NL teams.

Also, I know several Sox fans that don't want to go to Sox-Cubs games anymore. They have been to the games in the past, and they don't want to have to deal with the low-life Cubs fans. They saw first hand what trouble that element causes, and don't want to be around it. That goes especially for this year; the drunken Cubs fans are going to be extra surly after all the taunting, and punches will be thrown. After seeing these people come to our park to start fights, get piss drunk, stand and/or talk on cellphones while the game is going on, piss in the sinks, and scream obscenities in the midst of children, I can't blame them.

Pretty much sums up why I haven't bought tickets to a Sox/Cubs game in 3-4 years. I will miss chanting "1908" this time around though.

ChiSoxRowand
05-14-2006, 10:35 PM
I still love the crosstown series

ChiSoxGirl
05-14-2006, 10:39 PM
This series is pretty irrelevant to me. While I have the opportunity to go to Sunday's game and will most likely take it, it wouldn't have bothered me in the least if I didn't have tickets for any of the games. To me, whatever positives happen in this series are just gravy. As Sox fans, we have the ultimate bragging rites and nothing that team and its fans say or do next weekend matters. They can suck on our trophy! :bandance:

chisoxmike
05-14-2006, 10:40 PM
I just looking forward to see if Cubs fans will dare to come to the cell this weekend. I mean, they wouldn't...would they?

SoxandtheCityTee
05-14-2006, 10:42 PM
At this point I'd rather play some other NL teams.



Hear, hear. In the season ticket pool I used to be in, the Cubs games were chosen high in the first round on draft day in the beginning, but interest steadily fell off. Having to play all the damn Cub games in the daytime doesn't help, but I wouldn't go even if the games were at night. I'd like to just play them one series when we play the AL Central and not at all when we play other divisions: treat them like any other team in the interleague rotation. It will never happen though (sigh).

Chips
05-14-2006, 10:44 PM
Yeah, I'm going Friday and I'm about as excited to go as I am for any other game. So I'm still pumped, but the fact that they're playing the Cubs isn't making it anymore exciting.

The fact that the Cubs suck horrible ass this year will make it less exciting. I would much rather pay less money for a ticket to the Cleveland series' than the Cubs series.

On account that I am a season ticket holder, I have tickets to the games, but I think I am only to the Sunday game, possibly Saturday, but I am not sure.

dcb56
05-14-2006, 11:06 PM
For me the mystique of the Crosstown Series started to wear off around 01 when they went to an unbalanced league schedule because it means these Cubs games come at the expense of more games against traditional American League rivals. For example, I think it's silly the Sox will play the Cubs, a horrible team in an entirely different league, as many times this season as some of their age-old rivals like the Red Sox, Yankees, and A's.

StillMissOzzie
05-14-2006, 11:09 PM
The fact that the Cubs suck horrible ass this year will make it less exciting. I would much rather pay less money for a ticket to the Cleveland series' than the Cubs series.


This is what will make this year's dealings with ScRub fans a no-win situation this year. When the Sox win, they'll bleat about "No Carrie, no Prior, no Lee... of course you beat us", but should the Sox lose, they'll bleat about beating the World Champs.

Of course, we'll always have the 2005 banner to point out.

SMO
:D:

TheOldRoman
05-14-2006, 11:15 PM
Having to play all the damn Cub games in the daytime doesn't help, but I wouldn't go even if the games were at night.
They schedule all the games in the daytime now because of drunken rowdiness during the night games. I went to the first ever night game between the two teams (second game of the inaugural series) and there were a lot of fights. I believe Mayor Daley dictated that the games be played in the daytime, but I could be wrong. I remember back in 2004, ESPN picked up the Sunday game at the Urinal, on July 4th, and Daly was livid. It meant loads of extra cops on duty, and along with cops at the Grant Park festivities and elsewhere, lots of overtime pay.
The night games are too dangerous because the clowns (on both side) have been drinking since noon. There is nothing that could be done about that. Even if they didn't open up the parking lots until an hour and a half before the game, people would still get plastered all day and take the red line. I would like a night game here and there, but it doesn't bother me playing them in the day.

lizard6king6
05-14-2006, 11:17 PM
I still enjoy it!! I think its because a lot of my friends are Cubs fans and its fun to get into it with them.(Especially now after the WS). Bragging rights dont really mean as much anymore because of last year. The Cubs could sweep us all 6 games and all we have to say is, 1908. There is no comeback for that :) So it is still exciting but not as much as in the past

slavko
05-14-2006, 11:52 PM
MLB wanted to cut back these "traditional rival" games to 3 a year, in alternate ballparks each year, but JR and a number of other owners who needed the revenue at the time argued against it. The act is getting tired, but 5 or 6 wins out of the 6 games would help the cause (another WS). Beating the Cubs pales when you've beaten everybody in 2005.

TheOldRoman
05-14-2006, 11:59 PM
MLB wanted to cut back these "traditional rival" games to 3 a year, in alternate ballparks each year, but JR and a number of other owners who needed the revenue at the time argued against it. The act is getting tired, but 5 or 6 wins out of the 6 games would help the cause (another WS). Beating the Cubs pales when you've beaten everybody in 2005.
You are half right. The first two years of interleague play featured 3 games between the rivals. Reinsdorf lobbied to get a home-and-home series every year because it was 3 guaranteed sell-outs (I don't remember it specifically happening, I am just going off of what I read on this board).

SouthSide_HitMen
05-15-2006, 12:47 AM
Also, I know several Sox fans that don't want to go to Sox-Cubs games anymore. They have been to the games in the past, and they don't want to have to deal with the low-life Cubs fans. They saw first hand what trouble that element causes, and don't want to be around it. That goes especially for this year; the drunken Cubs fans are going to be extra surly after all the taunting, and punches will be thrown. After seeing these people come to our park to start fights, get piss drunk, stand and/or talk on cellphones while the game is going on, piss in the sinks, vandalize, and scream obscenities in the midst of children, I can't blame them.

People still want to go but I agree the insane scalping figures have shrunk (just like scalpers were disappointed with the Angels (instead of New York)).

I sold all my Sox vs. Cubs tickets at face in packages. People still want to go but I'm not disappointed to miss the circus. I'd go for free through face but I am not going to go out of my way for it. The games will be televised.

I've had this attitude the past few years (though I did go to 1 or 2 games a year) but the World Series put these games from a level of 5 or 6 (out of 10) to about a 3 or 4 - above Tampa or Kansas City - below Detroit or Minnesota.

Opponent rankings - 2006

-1: Florida

1 or 2: Tampa, Kansas City, Washington, Pittsburgh, Arizona, Colorado, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, Toronto

3 or 4: Cubs, Oakland, Texas, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Seattle

5 or 6: Minnesota, Detroit, Anaheim

7 or 8: Cleveland, Yankees, Boston, St. Louis, Houston

9 or 10: White Sox, NY Mets

HotelWhiteSox
05-15-2006, 12:57 AM
I am basically sick of interleague in general. Not even because of some unfair matchups that happen for some teams, but I think no interleague would make the World Series even more special. Not that the World Series needs hype, but I thought it was cool how in 01 it was the first time the Yankees and DBacks had ever met. I know a lot of people in NY who thought it hurt the Mets/Yankees matchup.

Plus Cubs' fans are stupid people to have rivalries with. Most will try to make it a win-win, saying 'who cares' if they lose but go crazy if they win. They are just ignorant, some Cubs' fan I know was offered Sox tickets and answered with 'I don't want to see a AAA team', so ignorant and stupid in so many different ways

soxjim
05-15-2006, 01:39 AM
The bottom line is we are World Series Champions. I see the series as just another series, just win it. I'm not as excited over the cross town classic as I once was or interleague play in general.

SoxFanPrope
05-15-2006, 02:37 AM
As much as we say we are "scary good" this year, the Scrubs are getting pretty close to "scary bad." So it is almost not that interesting anymore but then again they may feel like this is one of the only things they have left to play for so they will bring whatever their A game. Whatever that is, it is enough for me to not be bored with this series so I still hope the Sox sweep them in convincing fashion!

shes
05-15-2006, 03:08 AM
I'm much more excited about the Cards series, to be honest.

Uncle_Patrick
05-15-2006, 08:45 AM
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I still enjoy the Sox-Cubs games. This year is sort of anti-climatic because the Sox are playing well while the Cubs are really wretched right now, but I still enjoy beating the Cubs and seeing Cubs fans miserable. I think the games are fun, but I hate people who take them too seriously and who act like losing to the Cubs is somehow the worst thing in the universe. There were some big-time tears shed on this board in the past when the Sox lost. I even remember someone complaining about a game that the Sox won, stating if Corey Patterson had made a diving catch of a Konerko hit instead missing it that the Sox could have lost that game. This kind of psychosis is lame.

I agree with the sentiments regarding most interleague play. For the most part, the novelty has worn off. I like geographical rivalries (I wish we'd play the Brewers!), but other than that, its not too interesting.

D. TODD
05-15-2006, 09:00 AM
If both teams were struggling it would be more important since the meager city bragging rights would be all that could be accomplished in a down year. Since that is not the case and we are defending WORLD CHAMPIONS I think the series is just another 3 home games this weekend, but it is always nice to spank the scrubs. I stopped going to these games years back due to all of the drunk fans from both teams yelling and fighting rather then watching the game. I was at the C. Lee walk off grand slam game in the bleachers and there had to be at least a dozen physical altercations and non stop **** talking the whole game.

jenn2080
05-15-2006, 09:26 AM
I could personally careless anymore about the Cubs vs. Sox series. Im going but it would not have been the end of the world. I talked to a friend who went to the Cubs game on Friday with our company and she said it was really bad. Not for the fact that they lost but that the fans were not going easy on them which is to be expected. I am not sure why these tickets are such a hot item.

kevin57
05-15-2006, 09:43 AM
My "pre-series" sentiments are pretty blah. I get a feeling, though, that once the teams take the field, my Sox Pride and Cub Hatred condition will flare up again.

roylestillman
05-15-2006, 09:49 AM
But think of the fun we can have when the starting pitcher for the scrubs starts to fade and we can chant for the reliever Jae Kuk Ryu to enter the game. With a Southside accent I belive that's pronounced...

slavko
05-15-2006, 11:01 AM
You are half right. The first two years of interleague play featured 3 games between the rivals. Reinsdorf lobbied to get a home-and-home series every year because it was 3 guaranteed sell-outs (I don't remember it specifically happening, I am just going off of what I read on this board).

What you say is true. It happened. What I said was also true. It happened, but a few years later. So we're both half right. (But I'm half righter.)

WhiteSoxFan84
05-15-2006, 03:55 PM
To me, it's still a very fun series. I don't view this as a "huge, make or break" series, but I do view it as a very "fun" series with playoff atmosphere because of the fans. These 6 games are all Cub fans have to look forward to it seems. So you know they will like nothing more than to win 4-6 of the games.

viagracat
05-15-2006, 04:18 PM
If the Sox can stick a fork in the Cubs' season (if the fork has not already been wielded), that'll be cool. I have some Cub fan friends I can razz. But there's much more business to take care of than just beating the Cubs. I'm more concerned with how the Sox do in October than what'll happen this weekend.

SOXPHILE
05-15-2006, 04:22 PM
It does seem weird. I don't have the same angst, nervousness, etc. like I normally would in the days leading up to the series. The White Sox winning the World Series- (I still LOVE typing that)- has cured most of those ills and soothed any anxieties. Once the games start, I'll still be cheering and yelling with all my might, and hoping they stomp on the Cubs necks in all 6 games by scores of 14-0, 25-1, 22-2, 18-0, 26-0 and 44-3. I'll still be openly mocking Cub fans and laughing at their sorrow due to the life they have chosen. Things are just SOO much easier now with that WS Championship. Is this heaven ?

Nellie_Fox
05-15-2006, 05:01 PM
The only good thing about the Sox/Cubs series is that it is likely that most, if not all, of the games will be televised up here in the great white north, on WGN, ESPN, or Fox.

Otherwise, I have no use for interleague play.

RKMeibalane
05-15-2006, 05:15 PM
The only good thing about the Sox/Cubs series is that it is likely that most, if not all, of the games will be televised up here in the great white north, on WGN, ESPN, or Fox.

Otherwise, I have no use for interleague play.

I'm getting sick of it, too. I don't mind seeing new teams match up every so often (the Blue Jays are playing in Colorado this weekend, for example), but I would much rather see teams play aginst opponents from their own league. It sucks that the Sox and Yanks play only six games total. I would much rather see them play nine or twelve times, rather than playing games against the inferior National League.

QCIASOXFAN
05-15-2006, 05:24 PM
I live here in Iowa and in years past it used to be a huge deal, because most of my friends are Cubs fans along with most of the people around here. This year however the Cubs fans who usually talk it up and agree to place a small bets with me on the series are nowhere to be found. They know that there Cubs are a pathetic bunch of losers and tell me that all the time now. They know if the Cubs do somehow slop out in take the series that it means crap. I myself will watch all the games of course but would much rather watch them play a good team from the N.L. like the Cardinals. I am really looking forward to that match up.

chisoxfanatic
05-15-2006, 05:37 PM
For me, it'll be awesome walking into the ballpark Friday without a single knot in my stomach! This whole World Series Champions thing is so awesome! :gulp:

pdimas
05-15-2006, 06:01 PM
I'm going and I'm still excited to go. I guess maybe because I have a lot of friends who are Cubs fans. We love to give each other crap, all in good fun though. Every one of them will admit that the Sox definitely have the superior team this year and that the series is pretty much a moot point. Its like picking on a younger sibling. Its totally one sided but you still do it because its fun.

I still get the giggles when i think of Shammy trying to play hero and striking out with the bases loaded almost every time he came up to bat a couple of years ago. I remember telling everyone within earshot that he was going to try to play hero and he was going to whiff miserably. He proved me right every time :D:.

PKalltheway
05-15-2006, 06:28 PM
I still look forward to the Crosstown Classic every year. They could cut it back to just 3 games a year though, just to keep it interesting. I agree, it is a little watered down by playing six games a year. Baseball needs to balance the schedules back out in general. I agree that divisional games are important, but my goodness, do we need to play the Indians 19 times? 19 games against our divisional rivals means we'll have to be subjected to 19 games of the Yankees versus Red Sox since there's an unbalanced schedule. They can keep interleague play going, but please just end the torture of the unbalanced schedule. Here in Cincinnati, it seems like the Pirates are here for at least one series every month. Balance the damn schedules back out already.

Chisox1500
05-15-2006, 06:37 PM
The games will still be intense -- in the stands at least. The games just mean more to the Cubs now that the Sox are champs.

thomas35forever
05-15-2006, 06:46 PM
I think it'll still be heated. I'm not as excited because I'm gonna miss Sundays game, so the Sox better win the first two!

Parrothead
05-15-2006, 07:33 PM
Though it still would be nice to pounce on the losers:whiner: from the north side, is the hype gone since we as Sox fans have the ultimate bragging rights, a World Series:bandance: .

For me it was gone years ago....not a big fan of playing them 6 times....should only be three.

Bobbo35
05-15-2006, 07:37 PM
I just looking forward to see if Cubs fans will dare to come to the cell this weekend. I mean, they wouldn't...would they?

Stupidity never dies, that is why they are cub fans.

Irishsox1
05-15-2006, 07:54 PM
I would rather play the Flubbies 3 times and the Brewers 3 times every year. The Sox had a great rivalry with the Brew Crew and then over night, the Cubs got it. It's garbage and I want the Brewers back on the schedule!

chisoxfanatic
05-15-2006, 08:56 PM
The games will still be intense -- in the stands at least. The games just mean more to the Cubs now that the Sox are champs.

How many Cub fans do you think will actually set foot in Comiskey?

jehosaphat
05-15-2006, 09:40 PM
I still love the crosstown series

Hear, Hear. It is fun, if you let it be fun. I hope they keep it at 6 games forever.

Blueprint1
05-15-2006, 10:00 PM
I always thought it would be nice to get rid of the divisions. Go back to the balanced schedule and have the top four teams make the playoffs. You could even have the top five teams make the playoffs giving the top team a bye to the ALCS.

TheOldRoman
05-15-2006, 10:22 PM
How many Cub fans do you think will actually set foot in Comiskey?
None, seeing as it was torn down in 1991.
There will be several thousand in BEAUTIFUL US Cellular Field, though.:cool:

Parrothead
05-15-2006, 10:24 PM
I would rather play the Flubbies 3 times and the Brewers 3 times every year. The Sox had a great rivalry with the Brew Crew and then over night, the Cubs got it. It's garbage and I want the Brewers back on the schedule!

AGREED!