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Railsplitter
05-10-2006, 11:28 AM
Enough! We should stop referreing to the area around The Urinal as "Wrigleywille". The official name of the place is Lakeview, and infact, it was once a seperate community before it was annexed by the city of Chicago. Let the Trib and all of Cub-Dumb call it "Wrigleyville"

jenn2080
05-10-2006, 11:29 AM
Probably should stop calling Boystown Boystown since it is Lakeview too.

Hangar18
05-10-2006, 11:30 AM
Enough! We should stop referreing to the area around The Urinal as "Wrigleywille". The official name of the place is Lakeview, and infact, it was once a seperate community before it was annexed by the city of Chicago. Let the Trib and all of Cub-Dumb call it "Wrigleyville"

Good News. The CHicago Media agrees with you. If something bad happens in the Wrigleyville area, shooting, rape, property crime, cub fan public urination, cub fan puking in the street, the area becomes "Lakeview" or "Northside". IF something good happens, someone stops a purse-snatching, the area becomes "Wrigleyville" again.

cheeses_h_rice
05-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Good News. The CHicago Media agrees with you. If something bad happens in the Wrigleyville area, shooting, rape, property crime, cub fan public urination, cub fan puking in the street, the area becomes "Lakeview" or "Northside". IF something good happens, someone stops a purse-snatching, the area becomes "Wrigleyville" again.

True. If someone is stabbed at Sheffield and Addison, the Cubune headline would read something like "Man Stabbed in North Bridgeport."

Hangar18
05-10-2006, 11:57 AM
True. If someone is stabbed at Sheffield and Addison, the Cubune headline would read something like "Man Stabbed in North Bridgeport."

More Crime near Cell
Man stabbed a mere 8miles north

itsnotrequired
05-10-2006, 12:02 PM
Probably should stop calling Boystown Boystown since it is Lakeview too.

Wrigleyville, Boystown, Roscoe Village, Gold Coast, Streeterville, Ukrainian Village, etc. are neighborhood designations and are contained within Community Areas. Community Areas have well-defined, officially recognized boundaries; neighborhoods do not. Boundaries change depending on who you talk to.

RedHeadPaleHoser
05-10-2006, 12:10 PM
Wrigleyville, Boystown, Roscoe Village, Gold Coast, Streeterville, Ukrainian Village, etc. are neighborhood designations and are contained within Community Areas. Community Areas have well-defined, officially recognized boundaries; neighborhoods do not. Boundaries change depending on who you talk to.

Or WHO is reporting on it.

LuvSox
05-10-2006, 12:38 PM
Comiskeyville

Chip Z'nuff
05-10-2006, 12:40 PM
Comiskeyville
Champion Park

cheeses_h_rice
05-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Champion Park

Awesome City.

MadetoOrta
05-10-2006, 12:55 PM
Work with me here. I said earlier this year that reality would kick in and the cubs would fade and our club will ascend. Why? 5/6 stud starting pitchers and solid 1-9 line-up. [At the time, I had no idea Thome would be raking like he is] Soon, likely before the 4th of July, Wrigley Field will be home to some of the loudest boo-birds you've ever heard. Did anyone hear the Yankee fans boo Randy Johnson off the mound last night? That'll be a daily occurrence at the Urinal. Dusty Baker will be thrown to the wolves as red meat before the end of this month or just after our guys beat them down. The media [other than the cubune] will have to turn south. They'll have no choice.

sullythered
05-10-2006, 02:03 PM
Awesome City.

That's my favorite.:D:

viagracat
05-10-2006, 02:10 PM
It's real estate people who are behind all this. They try to sex up certain areas to sell properties to gullible people. There was an article in the Trib recently that talks about the name game for neighborhoods, particularly in trendy or changing North and Northwest Side areas. The names change all the time.

Lake View is technically a community area that extends from Diversey and the lake on the southeast all the way to the Ravenswood area to the northwest. Within that axis, of course, are a number of fairly distinct areas. Halsted and Cornelia is obviously different than Irving and Ashland, both both are in Lake View; in the community area as defined by the city. So it's natural to give different identities to the neighborhoods, and like I said, can be highly subjective, changeable and for the most part, determined by real estate people.

Wrigleyville, of course is defined by the ballpark and is a fair enough appellation, but isn't there a play called Urine Town out right now? :smile:

Hitmen77
05-10-2006, 02:47 PM
... but isn't there a play called Urine Town out right now? :smile:

it must be the long awaited sequel to Bleacher Bums.

IlliniSox4Life
05-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Awesome City.

We're Kind of a Big Deal Town.

Johnny Mostil
05-10-2006, 04:59 PM
Wrigleyville, Boystown, Roscoe Village, Gold Coast, Streeterville, Ukrainian Village, etc. are neighborhood designations and are contained within Community Areas. Community Areas have well-defined, officially recognized boundaries; neighborhoods do not. Boundaries change depending on who you talk to.

Weren't the community areas themselves based on an old U of Chi sociology project that defined areas by geographic terms local businesses used?

soxruleEP
05-11-2006, 09:39 AM
it must be the long awaited sequel to Bleacher Bums.


It is in fact a musical, written by a Chicagoan and winner of the Tony for Best Musical. It is a camp satire about a futuristic fascist society where people must pay to be allowed to urinate.

MikeLove
05-11-2006, 01:49 PM
Weren't the community areas themselves based on an old U of Chi sociology project that defined areas by geographic terms local businesses used?

not being from the city i dont know a whole lot about this but... My dad grew up in rogers park and my mom got him some sort of book with lots of pictures detailing the history of that neighborhood. Im pretty sure it was called rodger's park since its inception, not because of some university project.

viagracat
05-11-2006, 02:03 PM
Weren't the community areas themselves based on an old U of Chi sociology project that defined areas by geographic terms local businesses used?

It's true. The U of C project happened in the 1920s. Those involved came up with 75 community areas at the time. There are 77 now, with O'Hare added later and Edgewater becoming its own community area in the 1970s after separating from Uptown (supposedly Edgewater residents wanted to distinguish themselves from Uptown because Uptown had such a poor reputation back then). Census tracts are defined in part by the original project defining community areas.

For the most part, the old names for the community areas have stuck, although "Douglas" is now better-known as Bronzeville and South Lawndale is now universally known as Little Village, among a few others. And as I said, some neighborhoods, particularly on the north and northwest sides, are subject to constant name changes according to the whims of real estate people.

Johnny Mostil
05-11-2006, 02:09 PM
not being from the city i dont know a whole lot about this but... My dad grew up in rogers park and my mom got him some sort of book with lots of pictures detailing the history of that neighborhood. Im pretty sure it was called rodger's park since its inception, not because of some university project.

The university didn't label them, ML--rather, they coded the names that (they claimed) were already being used (e.g., Rogers Park). I think some of the choices were odd, but I won't diss the old Chicago School of sociology . . .

Johnny Mostil
05-11-2006, 02:11 PM
It's true. The U of C project happened in the 1920s. Those involved came up with 75 community areas at the time. There are 77 now, with O'Hare added later and Edgewater becoming its own community area in the 1970s after separating from Uptown (supposedly Edgewater residents wanted to distinguish themselves from Uptown because Uptown had such a poor reputation back then). Census tracts are defined in part by the original project defining community areas.

For the most part, the old names for the community areas have stuck, although "Douglas" is now better-known as Bronzeville and South Lawndale is now universally known as Little Village, among a few others. And as I said, some neighborhoods, particularly on the north and northwest sides, are subject to constant name changes according to the whims of real estate people.

Thanks for refreshing my memory on this. There's also, ironically, "Hyde Park-Kenwood," which, as I recall, is actually Hyde Park and south Kenwood. Then again, as I also recall, a long time ago "Hyde Park" incorporated the whole township, and not just that sliver between 51st and the Midway (or 59th?) . . .

maurice
05-11-2006, 02:30 PM
Then again, as I also recall, a long time ago "Hyde Park" incorporated the whole township

Yes, but there's a big difference between "neighborhoods" and "townships."

vegyrex
05-11-2006, 02:36 PM
Seems Wrigleyville should be called Loserville. :wink:

Johnny Mostil
05-11-2006, 02:45 PM
Yes, but there's a big difference between "neighborhoods" and "townships."

Yeah, that was kinda/sorta my point--areas and names change.

Here's one that's always struck me as odd that maybe somebody (anybody) would know better than I do: New City. I know folks from (and who say they're from) Canaryville and Back of the Yards, but I don't know anybody who says they're from "New City." Maybe I don't get around enough . . .

PaulDrake
05-11-2006, 02:55 PM
Since the subject seems to come up a lot lately maybe this will help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_areas_of_Chicago