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SoxOnTop
05-08-2006, 07:57 AM
For those who don't believe in the Trib's bias against the Sox....

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-060507soxgamer,1,3280566.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Buehrle 6IP 2R and the Sox won. You would think the White Sox were falling apart at the seams by reading this drivel. Last time I checked they had the best record in baseball.

jenn2080
05-08-2006, 08:01 AM
And the reason I dont pay any attention to the newspapers. MORONS!

soxfanatlanta
05-08-2006, 08:06 AM
I guess we should prepare for his arm to fall on his next start.

Complete crap.

veeter
05-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Today's trib was pure cubune. First of all, the front page is taken up by a huge picture of Kerry Wood mowing down a class A opponent. Then, as said before, they say, well the Sox won, but Buehrle was horrible. The ironic thing is they say Mark struggled with 114 pitches in 6 innings. Wood, Prior and all the cub goofs, throw 100 pitches by the 5th inning EVERY start. This is the second time in a week Trib 'writers' have included a list of Sox negatives from the game. I've been e-mailing Gonzalez and Van Dyke almost daily, voicing my displeasure. Only Mark Gonzalez writes back. It's obvious the Sox greatness is killing the media. Throw in the fact the cubs...well, are the cubs, makes them attack the sox even more, IMO.

JoeyCora28
05-08-2006, 08:21 AM
I guess we should prepare for his arm to fall on his next start.

Complete crap.




It happens with their pitchers all the time, so they just assume it will happen with everyone else's too...

fquaye149
05-08-2006, 08:27 AM
Today's trib was pure cubune. First of all, the front page is taken up by a huge picture of Kerry Wood mowing down a class A opponent. Then, as said before, they say, well the Sox won, but Buehrle was horrible. The ironic thing is they say Mark struggled with 114 pitches in 6 innings. Wood, Prior and all the cub goofs, throw 100 pitches by the 5th inning EVERY start. This is the second time in a week Trib 'writers' have included a list of Sox negatives from the game. I've been e-mailing Gonzalez and Van Dyke almost daily, voicing my displeasure. Only Mark Gonzalez writes back. It's obvious the Sox greatness is killing the media. Throw in the fact the cubs...well, are the cubs, makes them attack the sox even more, IMO.

Perhaps vanDyck would be more likely to respond if you spelled his name right

ILuvThatDuck
05-08-2006, 08:33 AM
I read that article on the train this morning. I had to look at the date to make sure it wasnt the 1st of April. I actually laughed out loud at what these clowns are trying to sipn. :angry:

Blob
05-08-2006, 08:36 AM
I ususally don't read this type of crap.

Why didn't I follow that rule this time???

Wow, just wow.

veeter
05-08-2006, 08:40 AM
Perhaps vanDyck would be more likely to respond if you spelled his name rightWell, it's actually van Dyck so we were both wrong. And I didn't spell it wrong in the e-mail so that can't be his excuse.

Tragg
05-08-2006, 08:48 AM
Well, maybe the Tribune is actually getting better. Didn't they headline "Somber Streak" and "Rolling Toward Danger" after sweeps last year? Well, maybe this year, they're waiting until we only win 2/3 to print their BS.

From the Cubs' standpoint, it's the same....anything to distract from getting swept, 5th place, and 6 game losing streaks. Last year things were "looking up" after the Nats swept them in Wrigley, reasoning that the Cubs made a backdoor comeback in game 3 that fell a few runs short was a sign of an improved offense.

cubhater
05-08-2006, 08:54 AM
Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

Blob
05-08-2006, 08:58 AM
From the Cubs' standpoint, it's the same....anything to distract from getting swept, 5th place, and 6 game losing streaks.

Or the fact that, until yesterday, they had not had a lead in a ballgame for 80 innings! :o:

fquaye149
05-08-2006, 09:03 AM
Well, it's actually van Dyck so we were both wrong. And I didn't spell it wrong in the e-mail so that can't be his excuse.

Wasn't trying to be a jerk(although my bad spacebar skills sure made me look silly)...just suggesting why he might not have replied.

rdwj
05-08-2006, 09:05 AM
For White Sox fans who've already suffered through Jose Contreras' sore arm in spring training and Jon Garland's and Freddy Garcia's early ineffectiveness, Buehrle's recent troubles are something new to worry about.


Wow - just wow!

irish rover
05-08-2006, 09:07 AM
yet the media in town falls all over themselves to cover a pitcher who hasn't won more than 14 games(once) and is oft injured in a minor league game

veeter
05-08-2006, 09:09 AM
Wasn't trying to be a jerk(although my bad spacebar skills sure made me look silly)...just suggesting why he might not have replied. Thanks for clearing that up. But I'll be watching you Focker.

Baby Fisk
05-08-2006, 09:13 AM
Meanwhile, the Cubs are

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into sixth place. But it's their turn this year, right?

I am not worried one iota.

Steelrod
05-08-2006, 09:13 AM
yet the media in town falls all over themselves to cover a pitcher who hasn't won more than 14 games(once) and is oft injured in a minor league game
Thats because he's on his way to Cooperstown!
Hope he has a ticket...

TomBradley72
05-08-2006, 09:16 AM
We need cubune.com!

At this point....I don't even get pissed...it's just funny. There are two universes at play here. The one where we have sold out crowds watching the best team in baseball. The other where we have "fueling concern" because an established starter threw 100+ pitches in 6 innings.

Consistent with this theme...one of the Cubs articles over the weekend talked about how Zambrano was returning to being his "intense nature"...and one example of that was how he had the blue jersey hanging in his locker vs. the standard grey road jersey. :?:

PaulDrake
05-08-2006, 09:19 AM
I just sent Dave van Dyck a short email with no swear words or insults. I'm not holding my breath waiting for a reply.

SOecks
05-08-2006, 09:22 AM
Consistent with this theme...one of the Cubs articles over the weekend talked about how Zambrano was returning to being his "intense nature"...and one example of that was how he had the blue jersey hanging in his locker vs. the standard grey road jersey. :?:

Yeah I read that over the weekend too and couldn't understand it at all. It made no sense. It was so obvious that they were trying SO HARD to write a fluff piece on Zambrano. I was pretty :?::cool::rolleyes: while reading the whole article. I'm sure if one of aces hadn't won a game yet we'd be getting the same encouraging fluff piece.

irish rover
05-08-2006, 09:23 AM
"Well before the game even began, Zambrano showed he was in charge. When the Cubs' gray road jerseys were hung in every players' lockers, suggesting that was the uniform they'd wear. Zambrano hung his blue road jersey in his locker, and since the starting pitcher gets to choose what color jersey they wear, the team had to conform to his wishes."

Now that is some very funny writing

or how about them cheering for him after striking out and breaks the bat, Um note to coob fans, he struck out

palehozenychicty
05-08-2006, 09:32 AM
simply sorry............:(: .

spiffie
05-08-2006, 09:36 AM
See, the problem is that with each win:

Chances of 2005 being a fluke are Shrinking.

so

Media's fears of their beloved Flubbies not being everyone's favorites are growing...

MadetoOrta
05-08-2006, 09:39 AM
I used to react to such articles like this - :angry: . Now, I'm more inclined to react with - :rolleyes: . Upon quick reflection, however, I am upset. We're the World ^%$## Champions and we're being treated like crap - still! Perhaps we ought to as a matter of routine email blast any writer that pulls this nonsense on our team. Knowing VanDyke won't read the emails, at least he'll have to spend time deleting them.

IlliniSox4Life
05-08-2006, 10:12 AM
I actually am beginning to like it. The more and more of this garbage that's printed in Chicago's biggest newspaper, the more pressure is taken off of us from a national spotlight. It almost makes me glad that there aren't any big Sox supporters on ESPN. You would think with baseball's best record, the AL HR leader, AL ERA leader, and being the defending champs we'd be the talk of the league. It might keep a few extra reporters out of the locker room and the crowd on away games a little less abusive. We know we're for real, and that's all that matters.

flo-B-flo
05-08-2006, 10:25 AM
I really don't give **** about his opinion. Buehrle is having location problems right now. His arm is fine. Contreras' arm problems? Looks like the hitters are having the problem. Freddie? Couldn't use the WBC to round out into season shape. He'll come around to. Ever think these guys write the bull**** and then come in here to read all the " the media hates us" grist? Plus, the c--- suck (again) and some of them are in a bad c----- mood. Much ado about nothing.

viagracat
05-08-2006, 10:30 AM
Except for the puff piece on Wood, it sure seemed like the Trib writers were piling onto the Cubs on Monday, especially Phil Rogers' column "Injury Excuse Is Getting Lame". Having said that, I was a little perturbed with the Sox headline "Fueling Concern" and the unnecesarily negative tone of the article. They did win the game, didn't they? Maybe the Trib's headline writer got a bad personal phone call or something.

Seemed like equal-opportunity bashing on Monday, IMO.

IlliniSox4Life
05-08-2006, 10:42 AM
Seemed like equal-opportunity bashing on Monday, IMO.

The point is the Sox are 22-9 and the Cubs are 14-16 and they are bashing them both but they also writing a puff piece on the Cubs. How can you bash a team that has the best record, AL HR leader, AL ERA leader, and are defending champs? They wrote about how Buehrle, who had troubles but managed 6IP with only 2R is a matter of concer because of a few less than stellar starts, even though he's been one of the most consistent starters over the last 5 years. Meanwhile, while they do rip on the Cubs here and there, they also write an article hailing what Kerry Wood did in a single A game when he's been injured more than healthy the last 5 years.

chuckn98229
05-08-2006, 12:31 PM
"Well before the game even began, Zambrano showed he was in charge. When the Cubs' gray road jerseys were hung in every players' lockers, suggesting that was the uniform they'd wear. Zambrano hung his blue road jersey in his locker, and since the starting pitcher gets to choose what color jersey they wear, the team had to conform to his wishes."

What is really incredible is that someone actually got paid for writing this tripe.

ilsox7
05-08-2006, 12:44 PM
I am as far from a conspiracy theorist as they come, but the interesting comparison to me is the recap of yesterday's game and the recap of the Cubs game several days ago where Marshall, I think it was, threw a nice game, but the Cubs still lost. The 1st half of that recap talked about his potential to be a star pitcher b/c he has had 4 good starts. Then they mention the game and the loss. Contrast that with yesterday's recap, where they basically say MB is almost out of the rotation and oh yea, the Sox barely beat a horrible - no minor league - Royals team.

batmanZoSo
05-08-2006, 12:51 PM
Even the Suntimes had something like "Joe Crede isn't worried about Buehrle." :?:

Who the hell IS worried after 6 inning, 2 run performance from a pitcher with a mid-3 era and one of the best career records of anyone his age? Just unbelievable.

ode to veeck
05-08-2006, 01:43 PM
Dave van Dyck must be attending the gametime chats at WSI to be such a worry wart!

TDog
05-08-2006, 03:38 PM
Dave van Dyck must be attending the gametime chats at WSI to be such a worry wart!

I was thinking that describing Buehrle's performance as "labored" was mild compared to the descriptions offered by Sox fans in the chat room. The nicest thing anyone wrote about Buehrle was that he was pitching like crap for the third straight outing.

I didn't see the game, having only experienced it through chat, but when I read the Tribune story at work last night, I thought it reflected well on the Sox. The fact that the Sox have higher standards of performance than the Cubs shouldn't trouble Sox fans.

maurice
05-08-2006, 03:53 PM
For White Sox fans who've already suffered through Jose Contreras' sore arm in spring training and Jon Garland's and Freddy Garcia's early ineffectiveness, Buehrle's recent troubles are something new to worry about.

Wow - just wow!

In an effort to play up this nonsense, chicagosports.com ran a poll question asking whether anybody was worried about Buehrle. Last time I checked, 76.5% said that they were "not a bit worried." (Keep in mind that Cub fans were free to stuff the ballot box with "worried" results.) In other words, the Trib's own website inadvertently proved that their writer is full of ****.

The only thing we're "suffering through" is crappy, biased sports coverage by hacks like Van Dick.

Chisox003
05-08-2006, 04:00 PM
I just saw this a little while ago.

Funny stuff.

Where's Mr. Knue on days like today?

They know where they can shove it.

:whiner: :whiner: :whiner: :whiner:

TDog
05-08-2006, 04:03 PM
In an effort to play up this nonsense, chicagosports.com ran a poll question asking whether anybody was worried about Buehrle. Last time I checked, 76.5% said that they were "not a bit worried." (Keep in mind that Cub fans were free to stuff the ballot box with "worried" results.) In other words, the Trib's own website inadvertently proved that their writer is full of ****.

The only thing we're "suffering through" is crappy, biased sports coverage by hacks like Van Dick.

Why should Cubs fans worry about Buehrle? Even if they did, they would probably have more trouble spelling his name than Sox fans do.

CubsfansareDRUNK
05-08-2006, 04:12 PM
The worst part of the article is bullet points describing what a bad team the royals are and how much better they are against the sox. They make it seem like buehrle just committed a moral sin. 2 ER really isnt that bad....at all. The whole article is negative and our attention is directed to the 8'x11' photo of carrie woods pitching for a AAA team. Its disgusting. They also put a positive spin on the cubs losing. "Ramieriz HR in cubs loss." How about Ozuna triple in sox win? :angry::angry::angry:

daveeym
05-08-2006, 04:24 PM
How about Ozuna triple in sox win? :angry::angry::angry: Trib: Relying on a bench player is the sign of a bad team and the Sox are in trouble. The starting lineup is in disrepair and beaten up.

Lip Man 1
05-09-2006, 12:38 AM
Just an important point...the writers do NOT compose the headline or even offer one. Those are different folks in the company.

Just clarifying.

Lip

TDog
05-09-2006, 03:56 AM
Just an important point...the writers do NOT compose the headline or even offer one. Those are different folks in the company.

Just clarifying.

Lip

Actually there are newspapers at which writers write their own headlines. The Tribune certainly isn't one of them. If the headline is the gripe, it might explain why I don't understand what the gripe is, having seen only the story.

Headline writing isn't as easy as it looks. They have to fit the space provided (although there is a newspaper in suburban Milwaukee with a direction to have their headlines swimming in white space), they have to tell the reader what's going on in the story, and they have to be free of anything that could be taken the wrong way. They also have to be done under deadline pressure.

I saw a headline once in the Arizona Republic that read, "Carl's Jr. story goes here if Bob says so." But my favorite headline of all time was atop the front page of the Las Vegas Review-Journal the morning after a 15-year-old boy was arrested on charges of setting ablaze a house of worship. It read, "Teen held in church fire."

I read Tuesday's Tribune stories tonight about the Sox and Cubs and I fail to see any bias in favor of the Cubs, by the way.

I think people here are overreacting.

DrCrawdad
05-09-2006, 04:58 AM
The worst part of the article is bullet points describing what a bad team the royals are and how much better they are against the sox. They make it seem like buehrle just committed a moral sin. 2 ER really isnt that bad....at all. The whole article is negative and our attention is directed to the 8'x11' photo of carrie woods pitching for a AAA team. Its disgusting. They also put a positive spin on the cubs losing. "Ramieriz HR in cubs loss." How about Ozuna triple in sox win? :angry::angry::angry:

There were no qualifers, no bullet points when the Cubs won games over the Pirates. In fact, Cubune writers used a victory over the Pirates as positive proof of the Cubs pitching. No one mentioned that the Pirates offense sucks, sucks probably worse than the Royals offense. At least the Sox had to face 8 position players AND a DH, not simply a pitcher.