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bigsoxfan420
05-07-2006, 07:06 PM
Does anyone else think that some TV's are needed on the ramps at the Cell for us outcast smokers? Maybe not at all of the areas but at least one or two of them. Can someone give me Brooks email so I can float him the idea? I don't really have a problem with the new rule, but since you never know what you may miss, it would be nice to be able to see what is going on, since the audio is very hard to hear.

And please don't post any anti-tobacco retoric, we've already heard enough!!

Cat Thief
05-07-2006, 07:07 PM
If not tv's at least some better audio.

TheKittle
05-07-2006, 07:11 PM
Does anyone else think that some TV's are needed on the ramps at the Cell for us outcast smokers? Maybe not at all of the areas but at least one or two of them. Can someone give me Brooks email so I can float him the idea? I don't really have a problem with the new rule, but since you never know what you may miss, it would be nice to be able to see what is going on, since the audio is very hard to hear.

And please don't post any anti-tobacco retoric, we've already heard enough!!

I'm a non smoker but I agree. Why? Because I think one reason smokers will try and sneak a smoke in the seats/on the concourse is because they can't see the game (on tv or see the field) in the smoking areas.

viagracat
05-07-2006, 07:37 PM
Wouldn't think it'd be a big deal to install a couple TV's.

SweetnesSox
05-07-2006, 09:42 PM
what do you smokers think you are, human beings or something?

Steelrod
05-07-2006, 10:11 PM
I'd settle for some hearable radio!

chisoxfan64
05-07-2006, 10:16 PM
How about a bigger triangle?:?:

mwc44
05-07-2006, 10:24 PM
I'd settle for some hearable radio!

How about a bigger triangle?:?:

How about a bigger triangle, a butt receptacle, and better audio...preferably the TV feed... coming from a TV screen or two?

Is that too much to ask?

I want Mags back
05-07-2006, 10:28 PM
And please don't post any anti-tobacco retoric, we've already heard enough!!

since u asked nicely, i wont

SweetnesSox
05-07-2006, 10:54 PM
with rates of smoking dropping, I dunno if they'll want to invest into smokers. I dunno.

anewman35
05-07-2006, 11:21 PM
How about a bigger triangle?:?:

I doubt they legally could make a bigger triangle, there has to be a certain number of feet away from a building that are smokeless. I'm actually really surprised they allow smoking at all, they must have somehow gotten the ramps considered to be not part of the building or something.

chisoxfan64
05-07-2006, 11:32 PM
How about Nicorette gum night. First 20,000 smokers get a pack.:cool:

DaBears
05-07-2006, 11:54 PM
with rates of smoking dropping, I dunno if they'll want to invest into smokers. I dunno.

We might be smokers, but aren't we still paying fans? I would think that the organization wants our money for beer, food, merch, etc...just like they want everyone else's:?:

I was looking at the setup today, and they could definetly could put some TVs near the smoking "area". The Bears had the same thing, before they went crazy on their smoking policy...:angry:

Sad
05-08-2006, 09:17 AM
How about a bigger triangle?:?:

don't think they really enforce that triangle anyways...
Ive pretty much seen people smoking wherever they want on the ramps the 6 games I've been to

Jurr
05-08-2006, 09:31 AM
Might be time to bust out a nice can of Copenhagen and enjoy your seat. I know it's hard to drink and dip, but that would be a decent alternative.

cubhater
05-08-2006, 09:50 AM
It'd be nice to have a TV or better audio but I'm not complaining about the accessability of our smoking areas. Try going to Miller Park or Comerica where there's hardly any smoking sections. I also heard Fenway and Yankee Stadium don't allow any smoking at all inside.

nug0hs
05-08-2006, 02:41 PM
As for the comment about enforcing the "triangle", it is not. I went to two games last week in section 522 and not one time was I told to go the "triangle", anything outside of the concourse was ok. I also think we need to get some better transmission in that area...unless you want to huddle by the top of the escalator where the only outside speakers are. I second the motion for an ash tray/butt can as well.

twsoxfan5
05-08-2006, 02:56 PM
I don't know if they would be able to put TV's out there b/c that area is pretty much exposed to the elements. I know that on Opening Night there was not a dry place to go on that concourse b/c of the blowing rain. They could probably figure out a way to protect the TVs but that would most likely be expensive. I agree that some better audio would be nice and PORT-A-POTTIES year round!

Cat Thief
05-08-2006, 03:13 PM
IMO,

Port-a-Johns on the ramps looks tacky.

1917
05-08-2006, 03:48 PM
I'm a smoker, I'm just thankful we can smoke at all in there with the new rules...they could have very easily banned the whole thing....Fenway makes you leave the stadium and go out on to Yawkey way (comparable to waveland ave.)

SOecks
05-08-2006, 03:49 PM
I can hear the audio if I'm outside of the triangle, but can't stand how they have no recepticles for the butts. I don't feel bad for smoking, but can't stand having my only options as 1. throw it on the ramp and 2. throw it down to the grass 2 floors down. It makes the stadium look like crap when there's butts all over the floor but there's nowhere else to put them right now.:(:

batmanZoSo
05-08-2006, 04:15 PM
As for the comment about enforcing the "triangle", it is not. I went to two games last week in section 522 and not one time was I told to go the "triangle", anything outside of the concourse was ok. I also think we need to get some better transmission in that area...unless you want to huddle by the top of the escalator where the only outside speakers are. I second the motion for an ash tray/butt can as well.

Especially on the lower level, people pretty much used the entire ramp area. There were about 25 people there talking and smoking. The workers didn't mind.

palehozenychicty
05-08-2006, 04:32 PM
It'd be nice to have a TV or better audio but I'm not complaining about the accessability of our smoking areas. Try going to Miller Park or Comerica where there's hardly any smoking sections. I also heard Fenway and Yankee Stadium don't allow any smoking at all inside.

You are correct about Yankee Stadium. No smoking allowed.

Irishsox1
05-08-2006, 05:37 PM
I know this might sound crazy, but how about not smoking until the game is over?

batmanZoSo
05-08-2006, 06:03 PM
I know this might sound crazy, but how about not smoking until the game is over?

How about no?

TDog
05-08-2006, 06:23 PM
I'm a smoker, I'm just thankful we can smoke at all in there with the new rules...they could have very easily banned the whole thing....Fenway makes you leave the stadium and go out on to Yawkey way (comparable to waveland ave.)

If there were a way they could prevent you from bringing cigarettes into the park only to sell them inside at a huge mark-up, ballpark would go out of their way to make accommodations for smokers.

Steelrod
05-08-2006, 07:02 PM
If there were a way they could prevent you from bringing cigarettes into the park only to sell them inside at a huge mark-up, ballpark would go out of their way to make accommodations for smokers.
Where's the love?
You must think the owner(s) are just in it for the almighty buck. This must be the dark half of the year in Alaska.
I believe that a law is a law and they are just following city mandates.

kwa
05-08-2006, 07:05 PM
There is no smoking at Yankee stadium, but people smoke on the ramps anyways.

soxinem1
05-08-2006, 07:10 PM
All I know is during the two games I went to on this homestand so far, the enforcement was real weak. People were smoking on the concourse, walking in the park, and a lot in the bathrooms.

For the hell of it I asked an usher at last Tuesday's Sox/Seattle game if smoking on the concourse was allowed, and she said she didn't know.

I asked another one the same question, and she just stood there and giggled.

You'd think they'd tell the employees where to direct people in this event, but I sure didn't see anyone trying to stop it either.

As far as a radio hookup on the ramps, why not? They are already outside and in the restrooms.

tick53
05-08-2006, 07:58 PM
I wish I could kick them damn things! Smoking is bad, but I am weak.
Hey, Chairman how 'bout a telly or two?

SweetnesSox
05-08-2006, 08:53 PM
We might be smokers, but aren't we still paying fans? I would think that the organization wants our money for beer, food, merch, etc...just like they want everyone else's

yes but they're not gonna put emergency insulin around the park for the diabetics or defibrillators every 25 feet for the fat guys... why would they expand the area for a group of people who don't have to smoke for three hours and who's numbers are dropping.

if they don't expand it, are you gonna stop going to games? if not then they don't have to worry about it.

chisoxfan64
05-08-2006, 09:07 PM
yes but they're not gonna put emergency insulin around the park for the diabetics or defibrillators every 25 feet for the fat guys... why would they expand the area for a group of people who don't have to smoke for three hours and who's numbers are dropping.

if they don't expand it, are you gonna stop going to games? if not then they don't have to worry about it.

You forgot liver transplant stations for the drunks who don`t have to drink for three hours.

Realist
05-08-2006, 09:28 PM
I thought the no smoking policy was gonna bother me more than it has. I ususally just have a smoke before I go in and then have one if the Sox have 2 outs in the bottom of the 5th with nobody on. I do have to stand directly under a speaker on the ramp with my ear pointing directly at the speaker to hear the game though. That's not much fun.

TDog
05-09-2006, 05:50 AM
Where's the love?
You must think the owner(s) are just in it for the almighty buck. This must be the dark half of the year in Alaska.
I believe that a law is a law and they are just following city mandates.

I wasn't writing specifically of the White Sox concessions, but baseball concessions practices in general. I know about the city mandates, and I don't think I even wrote anything that could be construed as anti-smoking, regardless of how I may feel about smoking. I know that a lot of baseball fans smoke. I've heard the chairman smokes cigars. And I've seen more than one adult-league game where the first baseman on the field has a cigarette dangling from his mouth.

Next time I'll limit my attempts at humor to a discussion of the Cubs concessions.

Steelrod
05-09-2006, 09:22 AM
I wasn't writing specifically of the White Sox concessions, but baseball concessions practices in general. I know about the city mandates, and I don't think I even wrote anything that could be construed as anti-smoking, regardless of how I may feel about smoking. I know that a lot of baseball fans smoke. I've heard the chairman smokes cigars. And I've seen more than one adult-league game where the first baseman on the field has a cigarette dangling from his mouth.

Next time I'll limit my attempts at humor to a discussion of the Cubs concessions.
Youve heard?
You've seen?
You're right!

White Sox Randy
05-09-2006, 10:18 AM
As a non-smoker, I was thrilled to see the new policy. The concourse is clear when I walk around and it is much more enjoyable.

If I have to deal with smoke only on the ramps, I can live with it. This is great!

However, it pisses me off that some people smoke anyway on the concourse. I would like to see enforcement of that policy. I am the type that would say something to the offending party - and not be afraid of an altercation.

Jerko
05-09-2006, 11:22 AM
However, it pisses me off that some people smoke anyway on the concourse. I would like to see enforcement of that policy. I am the type that would say something to the offending party - and not be afraid of an altercation.

I've seen a lot of people still smoking in the concourse and the restrooms. All you have to do is light up where no usher is stationed because it seems that they only stop you if you do it right in front of them. It's not like they walk around looking for smokers. I saw a few guys get caught and only ONE put it out. The others just walked to the ramp STILL smoking. Either enforce it or leave people alone.

Steelrod
05-09-2006, 12:01 PM
As a smoking, non drinker, it really offends me when someone is overdrinking and walking the concourse with multiple beers, and splashes me and others. I don't like the aroma, especially when I'm wearing it!
But I believe that we all have to coexist!

Cat Thief
05-09-2006, 12:14 PM
I am the type that would say something to the offending party - and not be afraid of an altercation.

Wow tough guy.

Irishsox1
05-09-2006, 12:27 PM
How about no?

What do you do on a flight lasting longer that 3 hours? Do you sit on the wing and light up?

skottyj242
05-09-2006, 12:33 PM
What do you do on a flight lasting longer that 3 hours? Do you sit on the wing and light up?

I thought this wasn't going to turn into a smokers vs. non-smokers debate.

jenn2080
05-09-2006, 12:36 PM
Im kind of with the non smokers part even though i am a smoker. it is our decision to step away during the game so it is our problems if we miss it. i dont think they are going to accomidate a bad habit. i mean this doesnt make me happy when i miss a good play, but i try to go during the pride crew time. I maybe miss one batter if that.

batmanZoSo
05-09-2006, 12:40 PM
What do you do on a flight lasting longer that 3 hours? Do you sit on the wing and light up?

It doesn't matter because there's no option on a plane. We're talking about a ballpark that's outdoors. So you want everyone who's addicted to nicotine to put everything on hold for the entire game just for you? It's not enough that we're confined to one area of the ramps outside the stadium's perimeters? Maybe we can ban driving downtown so you don't have to breathe exhaust.

White Sox Randy
05-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Wow tough guy.

I feel that since smoking is a legal activity, people have a right to smoke where it is allowed and I respect that.

However, when someone acts like a jerk......not just smokers...I will say something. In this case, I would tell somebody to go to the ramp and smoke.

Now, I know that during a Sox game drinking could also be going on. And that could lead to words being exchanged but I don't care. These people piss me off when they think that the rules don't apply to them.

chidonez
05-09-2006, 02:24 PM
It'd be nice to have a TV or better audio but I'm not complaining about the accessability of our smoking areas. Try going to Miller Park or Comerica where there's hardly any smoking sections. I also heard Fenway and Yankee Stadium don't allow any smoking at all inside.

At Fenway you can walk outside to smoke and re-enter.

bennyw41
05-09-2006, 05:24 PM
It doesn't matter because there's no option on a plane. We're talking about a ballpark that's outdoors. So you want everyone who's addicted to nicotine to put everything on hold for the entire game just for you? It's not enough that we're confined to one area of the ramps outside the stadium's perimeters? Maybe we can ban driving downtown so you don't have to breathe exhaust.

That's a horrible argument. For so many reasons. Stick to the subject.
If you really need to ask why, re-read it.

Meanwhile,

Why don't the people who are inconvenienced write a letter to the Sox, I'm sure you'll get a response, they are very good at it. If the park is only abiding by City ordinance, how can you blame them? You'll just have to wait it out.

TDog
05-09-2006, 05:50 PM
As a smoking, non drinker, it really offends me when someone is overdrinking and walking the concourse with multiple beers, and splashes me and others. I don't like the aroma, especially when I'm wearing it!
But I believe that we all have to coexist!

I'll bet you're one of those guys who doesn't like salsa in his eggs either. But it's nice to know I wouldn't be the only person going to Sox games if they stopped serving beer.

And if I didn't live three time zones away.

batmanZoSo
05-09-2006, 05:50 PM
That's a horrible argument. For so many reasons. Stick to the subject.
If you really need to ask why, re-read it.

Meanwhile,

Why don't the people who are inconvenienced write a letter to the Sox, I'm sure you'll get a response, they are very good at it. If the park is only abiding by City ordinance, how can you blame them? You'll just have to wait it out.

Uh, exactly. It's about on par with the inane suggestion it's referring to.

chidonez
05-09-2006, 06:20 PM
I'll bet you're one of those guys who doesn't like salsa in his eggs either. But it's nice to know I wouldn't be the only person going to Sox games if they stopped serving beer.

And if I didn't live three time zones away.

I just hope they don't make the experience too family friendly. It takes something away from sport. Consider Brazilian soccer. Now those people know passion for their team:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK11nlSDzV4

dickallen15
05-09-2006, 07:24 PM
I think they should throw a couple of televisions in the smoking areas. I think there is a lot more smoking going on in the stands than years past, because smokers can't watch the game and smoke on the concourses. Of course there is a lot of smoking occurring on the concourses. A lady was smoking at the el platform the other day after the game, and was busted. They write you a ticket that I think is around $200. She was in tears, this was just after she was giving someone a hard time who asked her to put it out.

jenn2080
05-10-2006, 08:59 AM
Uh, exactly. It's about on par with the inane suggestion it's referring to.


I was in Disneyland a few years ago and you could not smoke there. I couldnt believe that they had smoking sections in Disneyland something that was outside.

jenn2080
05-10-2006, 09:01 AM
At Fenway you can walk outside to smoke and re-enter.

Same with Petco. They just stamp your hand

Jerko
05-10-2006, 04:58 PM
I don't smoke and and I don't care who smokes, but if I did, I'd rather be relegated to the ramps than have to leave the entire structure. You'll miss MORE of the game that way. All the way down the ramp, smoke, back up the ramp, etc. And if you're in the upper deck, forget it. So, smokers, be careful smoking at the Cell because if people keep getting busted, it wouldn't surprise me if next year's smoking area IS in fact outside of the entire structure. That would really suck.

spiffie
05-10-2006, 05:24 PM
I think they should throw a couple of televisions in the smoking areas. I think there is a lot more smoking going on in the stands than years past, because smokers can't watch the game and smoke on the concourses. Of course there is a lot of smoking occurring on the concourses. A lady was smoking at the el platform the other day after the game, and was busted. They write you a ticket that I think is around $200. She was in tears, this was just after she was giving someone a hard time who asked her to put it out.So after being obnoxious to someone who was asking her to obey the law she was brokenhearted for being ticketed for obeying the law? Yeah, I'm overflowing with sympathy for her.

batmanZoSo
05-10-2006, 05:40 PM
So after being obnoxious to someone who was asking her to obey the law she was brokenhearted for being ticketed for obeying the law? Yeah, I'm overflowing with sympathy for her.

Come on, though 200 dollars? That's beyond ridiculous for smoking outdoors. More so when you compare it to the cost of most traffic tickets...

credefan24
05-10-2006, 05:43 PM
And here I was thinking this thread was about Thome's bat.

"Talk about flagrant false advertising!"

spiffie
05-10-2006, 05:50 PM
Come on, though 200 dollars? That's beyond ridiculous for smoking outdoors. More so when you compare it to the cost of most traffic tickets...
It takes a special sort of indifference to others to be smoking where it is clearly labeled "No Smoking" and to ignore the requests of others to quit, moreso in my opinion than many trivial parking tickets, so the disparity doesn't bother me. And even if it did, this is a fairly simple ticket to avoid. Don't be an ******* and wait until you're off CTA property to do it.

batmanZoSo
05-10-2006, 05:54 PM
It takes a special sort of indifference to others to be smoking where it is clearly labeled "No Smoking" and to ignore the requests of others to quit, moreso in my opinion than many trivial parking tickets, so the disparity doesn't bother me. And even if it did, this is a fairly simple ticket to avoid. Don't be an ******* and wait until you're off CTA property to do it.

I didn't say parking tickets. Otherwise I'd agree with that.