PDA

View Full Version : Hall of Fame Question


Chisox003
05-02-2006, 08:05 PM
I know this has been answered a million times here, but I can't find it.

Who chooses the hat the players wear when they go into the hall? Is it the MLB or the individual player?

What site can I find this type of stuff on?

Thanks for the help folks :gulp:

MUsoxfan
05-02-2006, 08:09 PM
MLB does. The players got to choose until the Devil Rays gave Wade Boggs alot of extra money to go into the HOF as a D-Ray

Chips
05-02-2006, 08:10 PM
MLB does. The players got to choose until the Devil Rays gave Wade Boggs alot of extra money to go into the HOF as a D-Ray

The player decides.

hmm.....

MUsoxfan
05-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Actually...I'm wrong too. The Hall of Fame itself decided what hat the player wears. It's still because of Boggs though:cool:

Chips
05-02-2006, 08:16 PM
Actually...I'm wrong too. The Hall of Fame itself decided what hat the player wears. It's still because of Boggs though:cool:

I was hmming both responses on account that I didn't know if it was the Hall or MLB. I remember the debate on whether Fisk would wear Red or White, and he chose Boston.

TheDarkGundam
05-02-2006, 08:21 PM
I thought it was the player can wear whatever hat he wants, but the HOF decides what hat goes on their HOF thing.

JohnBasedowYoda
05-02-2006, 08:27 PM
So if Thome get's 500 HRs and finishes his career as a White Sox would he go into the HOF as a White Sox or a Jndian?

MUsoxfan
05-02-2006, 08:36 PM
So if Thome get's 500 HRs and finishes his career as a White Sox would he go into the HOF as a White Sox or a Jndian?

He'd go in as an Indian. If Frank goes in he'd go in as a Southsider

itsnotrequired
05-02-2006, 08:54 PM
He'd go in as an Indian.

Not if he picked up a couple rings on the Southside.:cool:

MUsoxfan
05-02-2006, 09:00 PM
Not if he picked up a couple rings on the Southside.:cool:

A couple rings, a couple MVP's and a couple hundred HR's:D:

Lip Man 1
05-02-2006, 09:07 PM
The Hall of Fame now decides which hat a player will wear. Gary Carter was upset the HOF said he'd go in as an Expo and not as a Met.

Lip

Chisox003
05-02-2006, 09:24 PM
The Hall of Fame now decides which hat a player will wear. Gary Carter was upset the HOF said he'd go in as an Expo and not as a Met.

Lip
Thanks Lip

Where can I find that online? You wouldnt happen to have a site would ya?

Thanks guy :gulp:

Lip Man 1
05-03-2006, 12:23 AM
Try here. They may have it in print.

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/

Lip

SouthSide_HitMen
05-03-2006, 12:41 AM
The Hall of Fame now decides which hat a player will wear. Gary Carter was upset the HOF said he'd go in as an Expo and not as a Met.

Lip

Actually before Boggs and Carter was Winfield who was offered a job by the Padres with a bonus of a few hundred thousand after his career and in exchange he would enter the HOF as a Padres.

Reggie Jackson flirted with such a scheme (with the Angels)but he decided against it (and probably has made more money as a "Yankee" HOFer during the years since induction).

Carter and Boggs are the only two players overruled to date as to which cap they were inducted since the rule passed after Boggs' retirement but before Carter's induction stating the Hall of Fame, not the player, has final say with input from the player and after review of the career.

I think the player should have the final say since he is the one supposedly being honored whether it be with a cap of the team of their choice that they played on or no cap at all (like Catfish Hunter - the latest player inducted without a logo because he couldn't decide between the A's and Yankees).

Madvora
05-03-2006, 09:13 AM
I think it's kind of stupid that they have to go in as one thing, but I guess you have to have something on the statue or whatever.
How about those blank ones that "baseball players" in commerical wear?

They should just stack a bunch of hats on top of each other. Then people would argue about the order they were in.

Hitmen77
05-03-2006, 09:15 AM
I seem to remember a few months ago that it was Bruce Sutter's choice to go into the HOF as a Cardinal. But, perhaps in that situation Bruce pretty much split his time between the Cubs and Cards and it really was his call with the HOF not likely to overrule his choice.

The situation would be much different for someone like Frank Thomas. After 16 season and 448 HRs with the Sox, no way would the HOF ok him going in with an A's cap after playing something like 2 seasons with 52 HR total.

Ol' No. 2
05-03-2006, 10:51 AM
The Hall of Fame now decides which hat a player will wear. Gary Carter was upset the HOF said he'd go in as an Expo and not as a Met.

LipDoes the HOF actually choose, or do they just reserve veto power? I thought Sutter made the choice.

Lip Man 1
05-03-2006, 11:16 AM
From Joe Cowley's story on Jim Thome in the Sun-Times Wednesday:

"Players no longer are allowed to select the team colors (hat) they take into the Hall of Fame."

Lip

TDog
05-03-2006, 04:25 PM
The Hall of Fame now decides which hat a player will wear. Gary Carter was upset the HOF said he'd go in as an Expo and not as a Met.

Lip

That was clearly a political decision because the Expos didn't have anyone in the Hall of Fame.

Baseball needed something in the Hall to show for the franchise, I'm sure.

spiffie
05-03-2006, 04:47 PM
So if Thome get's 500 HRs and finishes his career as a White Sox would he go into the HOF as a White Sox or a Jndian?
If he hits 500 HR he's with CLE. If he were to somehow last into his early mid-40's and get into the 600 HR range and get a couple rings, all done here or course, then the question might be more open.

PKalltheway
05-03-2006, 06:19 PM
Here's a question that will absolutely come up within the next few years: What team will Randy Johnson go in the Hall of Fame with? It's pretty much down to Seattle and Arizona, and I'd say Arizona. He won 4 out of his 5 Cy Youngs there, won the World Series with them, threw a perfect game with them, and had a 20 strikeout game with them. He also won a career high 24 games in 2002 with the D'Backs. He did put up some good numbers with Seattle, but what he did with Arizona far outweighs what he did with Seattle.

SouthSide_HitMen
05-03-2006, 06:40 PM
Here's a question that will absolutely come up within the next few years: What team will Randy Johnson go in the Hall of Fame with? It's pretty much down to Seattle and Arizona, and I'd say Arizona. He won 4 out of his 5 Cy Youngs there, won the World Series with them, threw a perfect game with them, and had a 20 strikeout game with them. He also won a career high 24 games in 2002 with the D'Backs. He did put up some good numbers with Seattle, but what he did with Arizona far outweighs what he did with Seattle.

The Yankees of course.

Layla
05-03-2006, 07:01 PM
Does the HOF actually choose, or do they just reserve veto power? I thought Sutter made the choice.

I remember reading that Sutter chose the Cards because that was the team his kids remembered him playing for.

I always thought that the player made the choice, but that the Hall had veto power.

Chisox003
05-03-2006, 07:21 PM
Here's a question that will absolutely come up within the next few years: What team will Randy Johnson go in the Hall of Fame with? It's pretty much down to Seattle and Arizona, and I'd say Arizona. He won 4 out of his 5 Cy Youngs there, won the World Series with them, threw a perfect game with them, and had a 20 strikeout game with them. He also won a career high 24 games in 2002 with the D'Backs. He did put up some good numbers with Seattle, but what he did with Arizona far outweighs what he did with Seattle.
What about Houston?


:cool:

zmz723
05-03-2006, 07:21 PM
Will Maddux go in with the flubs or braves?
I got in a huge argument at school over this

LongLiveFisk
05-03-2006, 09:14 PM
MLB does. The players got to choose until the Devil Rays gave Wade Boggs alot of extra money to go into the HOF as a D-Ray

It only takes one jackass to ruin it.

robiwho
05-03-2006, 11:14 PM
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/whats%5Fnew/press%5Freleases/2005/pr2005%5F01%5F08.htm

“The choice of which team’s logo appears on a player’s plaque is our decision,” said Hall of Fame President Dale Petroskey. “The wishes of each inductee were considered, but ultimately, it is important that the logo be emblematic of the historical accomplishments of that player’s career. A player’s election to the Hall of Fame is a career achievement, and as such, every team for which the Hall of Famer played will be listed. The logo selection is based on where that player makes his most indelible mark.”

PKalltheway
05-03-2006, 11:59 PM
Will Maddux go in with the flubs or braves?
I got in a huge argument at school over this
Braves. I'm saying this not to be against the Cubs, but truthfully. 3 out of his 4 Cy Youngs were with Atlanta as well as his only World Series title. Atlanta was where he became a hall of fame pitcher.

TDog
05-04-2006, 01:05 AM
So if Thome get's 500 HRs and finishes his career as a White Sox would he go into the HOF as a White Sox or a Jndian?

Does it matter? Do you know what hat Gaylord Perry's plaque depicts him wearing? He played for, like, 8 teams. When he made appearances after his retirement, he wore a special jersey displaying the logos of all eight teams.

If you look at Carlton Fisk's plaque (http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/plaques/fisk_carlton.htm), you see him wearing a Boston cap. It mentions that he played with both the Red Sox and White Sox. It also says he was the Rookie of the Year (with Boston), hit the home run that ended Game 6 of the 1975 World Series (with Boston) and hit more home runs than anyone else after the age of 40 (with the White Sox). People generally remember him playing for the Red Sox.

When most people think of Carlton Fisk, they think of Game 6, even if I think of him tagging out two runners at the plate for the White Sox in Yankee stadium. The choice to put him in a Boston cap seems obvious. It doesn't bother me that he is wearing a Red Sox cap. I'm just happy he's there.

LongLiveFisk
05-04-2006, 12:17 PM
When most people think of Carlton Fisk, they think of Game 6, even if I think of him tagging out two runners at the plate for the White Sox in Yankee stadium. The choice to put him in a Boston cap seems obvious. It doesn't bother me that he is wearing a Red Sox cap. I'm just happy he's there.

Well said. Thank you.

viagracat
05-04-2006, 12:32 PM
This ended up being a pretty interesting thread. :smile: