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SectionBNole
04-29-2006, 10:32 AM
Jose Contreras is not getting very much attention. Maddux is 5-0 with a sparkling 1.34 ERA granted, but theres a pitcher on the southside with just as good of a start. Jose is 3-0 with a 1.55 ERA coming into tonights game, hard to do much better than that. Contreras needs the props.

jdm2662
04-29-2006, 10:48 AM
Oh great, another post how the Sox doesn't get much respect, and Maddux is a Cub, etc blah blah blah. Contreras has gotten plenty attention of his turn around dating back to last year. People have taken notice around baseball. Maddux is also a first ballot hall of famer who happens to be 40 and dominating. That's not big news? Yeah, he's a Cub, but if your a baseball fan and this isn't news, then you just have Cubbie blinders on.

goon
04-29-2006, 10:50 AM
maddux is putting something on that ball.

PicktoCLick72
04-29-2006, 10:53 AM
Are you really trying to say being 3-0 is better thean being 5-0?

LuvSox
04-29-2006, 11:00 AM
maddux is putting something on that ball.

Like Ben-Gay.

Because he's old.

:D:

SectionBNole
04-29-2006, 11:23 AM
Point is this: you have Maddux and Sidney freakin Ponson getting special attention on ESPN when Contreras doesnt.

BNLSox
04-29-2006, 11:38 AM
Everytime you turn on MLB.TV do you know what it plays? The last out of the world series. Every single time i turn that thing on we win AGAIN! Its amazing!!

We're getting plenty of attention... 1000% more than we ever had before. What Maddux is doing is infinitely more impressive than Contreras' domination because he is literally keeping his team alive and he's one of the greats of all time. Jose is getting the press he deserves, which is quite a bit. He's a stud, but he is not as of yet a Maddux.

Crede_Fan
04-29-2006, 11:42 AM
Point is this: you have Maddux and Sidney freakin Ponson getting special attention on ESPN when Contreras doesnt.

Maddux is getting the attention he deserves. Don't turn this into a SOX vs. Cubs media crap. The guy is 40 yrs old and pitching like he is in his late 20's.

The Immigrant
04-29-2006, 11:52 AM
There's simply no sense in comparing Contreras and Maddux. Maddux is pitching to AAA talent that is present in most NL lineups, while Contreras is dominating AL teams. For chrissakes, even Bronson Arroyo is 4-0 with a 2.34 ERA in the NL, and this guy couldn't even crack Boston's rotation.

beckett21
04-29-2006, 11:52 AM
:burly

Who's Greg Maddux? :dunno:



:redneck

Dick Allen
04-29-2006, 12:07 PM
As much as I don't like it, you have to give Maddux his props.

ondafarm
04-29-2006, 12:10 PM
Maddux is a good pitcher doing what he needs to to win. No knocking that. Yes, the lineups he pitches against are weaker but then again, so is his offense. I applaud his performance and hope he does well. I look forward to when he pitches against the White Sox because we'll beat his brains in.

Chips
04-29-2006, 12:14 PM
There's simply no sense in comparing Contreras and Maddux. Maddux is pitching to AAA talent that is present in most NL lineups, while Contreras is dominating AL teams. For chrissakes, even Bronson Arroyo is 4-0 with a 2.34 ERA in the NL, and this guy couldn't even crack Boston's rotation.

Maddux shut down Albert Pujols twice, he's a good pitcher and Contreras gets plenty of attention.

Chicago
04-29-2006, 12:20 PM
Maddux is doing his thing, there is no denying that. ROIDS :D:

On the other side of town, our boy Contreras is going for his 12th straight regular-season victory tonight. 5th longest streak in White Sox history and a 1.91 era during this streak. Longest streak for a Sox pitcher since 1970 and the longest current streak in the majors. I think he has earned some air time.

Dan Mega
04-29-2006, 12:28 PM
Contreras just started being dominant last year. Maddux has been doing it for 20 years. No comparison.

DumpJerry
04-29-2006, 01:30 PM
Maddux is undeniably The Man right now. This is the first time in his stellar career that he is 5-0. He deserves the props. We can complain that Contreras is not getting any attention, but we could probably identify 5 or 6 other pitchers who have comparable records to Contreras who are not geting much attention right now. This is not, I repeat, not a Cub v. White Sox thing. This is a Greg Maddux thing, last year it was Roger Clemens' turn.

Chicago
04-29-2006, 01:40 PM
We can complain that Contreras is not getting any attention, but we could probably identify 5 or 6 other pitchers who have comparable records to Contreras who are not geting much attention right now.

Yes that could be done if you are only talking about this season so far...
No one else is on the streak Jose is right now, and with a win today will be 4-0 only 1 win behind Maddux/12 win streak.

Oh well, we should be use to this already...we fly under the radar again hopefully with the same outcome as '05.

TDog
04-29-2006, 02:07 PM
A friend told me that WGN's 2005 year-end sports review had features about the team success of the Sox and the incredible season of Derek Lee, who had what would have been labeled a career year if he had played for the Sox.

I would have no problem if the 2006 year-end sports review celebrated White Sox team success and an incredible year by Maddux. When you look at Maddux's career you see that the years he wasn't pitching in the postseason were all years with the Cubs.

I don't expect that to change.

Chisox003
04-29-2006, 02:16 PM
Meanwhile, is anyone watching the Cubs/Brewers right now?

I can't believe what I just saw. They keep showing this drunken fools in the bleachers, and they showed them about 5 times. By the 6th time, they were on cell phones and knew they were on TV.

These guys had Prince Fielder's HR ball, and Bob Brenly goes "Why haven't they thrown it back yet? Go ahead guys, throw it back, we'll be sure to get you a new one."

The message is relayed over the phone, guy throws the ball back onto the field MID PITCH!

****ing JOKE

TDog
04-29-2006, 02:17 PM
I don't want to start a new thread or anything, but on a related not, does Glendon Rusch cancel out Maddux?

Rusch's rate of home runs allowed per nine innings has to be higher than most decent pitchers' ERAs.

goon
04-29-2006, 02:53 PM
I don't want to start a new thread or anything, but on a related not, does Glendon Rusch cancel out Maddux?


yes.

oeo
04-29-2006, 02:55 PM
Maddux is getting the attention he deserves. Don't turn this into a SOX vs. Cubs media crap. The guy is 40 yrs old and pitching like he is in his late 20's.
He's going to implode soon, just you watch. And besides, we don't even know how old Conteras is, some people say he's in his 40's too, close to 50's...and he's pitching the best of his career. With nasty stuff, and not getting the ball looked at every other batter. It just makes me think that something has to be up, he's starting out the best of his career and other guys obviously think that he's doing something.

viagracat
04-29-2006, 03:59 PM
It's a little harder this week to give the Sox their props because all the games are out on the West Coast and have ended after press time. And Maddux is pitching lights out right now. Media bias is real, but let's pick our battles, ladies and gents.

SOXSINCE'70
04-29-2006, 04:06 PM
What he's done is very good,but a baseball season is 6 months long.
If he's pitching like this in August and September,fine,give him
his props.For now,shut the **** up and realise a baseball season
is 6 months long,NOT FIVE WEEKS LONG!!:angry: :angry:

kittle42
04-29-2006, 04:09 PM
:whiner::whiner::whiner::whiner::whiner:

LongLiveFisk
04-29-2006, 04:18 PM
Maddux is getting the attention he deserves. Don't turn this into a SOX vs. Cubs media crap. The guy is 40 yrs old and pitching like he is in his late 20's.

This is what I'm thinking too. You have to admit those numbers are stellar for a 40-yr-old pitcher, especially one that appeared to have virtually nothing left in the tank not long ago.

munchman33
04-29-2006, 04:50 PM
Maddux is getting the attention he deserves. Don't turn this into a SOX vs. Cubs media crap. The guy is 40 yrs old and pitching like he is in his late 20's.

Contreras might be older...

spiffie
05-01-2006, 03:03 PM
What he's done is very good,but a baseball season is 6 months long.
If he's pitching like this in August and September,fine,give him
his props.For now,shut the **** up and realise a baseball season
is 6 months long,NOT FIVE WEEKS LONG!!:angry: :angry:
You're absolutely right. Which is why no one should be saying anything good about our having the best record in baseball right now.

kittle42
05-01-2006, 03:15 PM
You're absolutely right. Which is why no one should be saying anything good about our having the best record in baseball right now.


Shh! Don't let logic invade Flubsession.

itsnotrequired
05-01-2006, 03:53 PM
Are you really trying to say being 3-0 is better thean being 5-0?

According to the guys at northsidebaseball, wins don't matter.

:redneck

SoxFan76
05-01-2006, 04:39 PM
Wow I did not expect this kind of response to the subject.

Maddux deserves all the attention, but I agree that Contreras isn't getting much love from the Chicago media let alone the national media. He's been absolutely lights out since the ASB 05. And comparing the ERAs of the 2, you could argue Contreras has been better seeing how he pitches in the much more talented AL with a DH.

SOecks
05-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Wow I did not expect this kind of response to the subject.

Maddux deserves all the attention, but I agree that Contreras isn't getting much love from the Chicago media let alone the national media. He's been absolutely lights out since the ASB 05. And comparing the ERAs of the 2, you could argue Contreras has been better seeing how he pitches in the much more talented AL with a DH.

I'd rather he stayed under the radar anyways. Look at how he performed in NY under their watchful eyes constantly. I know Coop had a ton to do with it as well, but he seems to be doing well under these conditions. Lets not bring in the local and national mediots to put a kink into anything.

MUsoxfan
05-01-2006, 05:19 PM
This is what I'm thinking too. You have to admit those numbers are stellar for a 40-yr-old pitcher, especially one that appeared to have virtually nothing left in the tank not long ago.

He's looking really really good. He does get a generous strike-zone from the umps, but I guess he deserves that after 20 years and over 300 wins. To me, Maddux deserves the attention he's getting and he's the MVP of that team right now