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batmanZoSo
04-26-2006, 02:34 PM
Right now he projects the following with 550 ABs:

.318 33 HR 133 RBI .576 SLG

His 162 game average for his career:

.255 24 HR 81 RBI .439 SLG

Do you think he's more in line with the projection or the historic?
When he was first brought up, he was expected to put up these numbers, but like Garland, it took him a while. Has he come into his own or is he just off to a hot start?

I think he just figured it out some time last year. He's been a different player ever since, I say stud.

rdwj
04-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Why isn't SUPER-Stud an option????

Baby Fisk
04-26-2006, 02:45 PM
He looks nicer with the haircut.




I may have misconstrued the question. :unsure:

A year ago, the FOJC were fighting an unpopular war against those who would End The Joe Crede Experiment. Now, the thought of moving Crede is unthinkable unless your name is Shoota. He's hit some of the most memorable home runs of the past 12 months, his BA is right where it should be and he is also on course for a gold glove. Definitely a stud.

maurice
04-26-2006, 02:54 PM
Do you think he's more in line with the projection or the historic?

I'd be quite pleased if he simply split the difference: .288 AVE, 28 HR, .500 SLG.
:gulp:

batmanZoSo
04-26-2006, 03:03 PM
I'd be quite pleased if he simply split the difference: .288 AVE, 28 HR, .500 SLG.
:gulp:

For sure and frankly for a bottom of the order guy with that glove, even the career numbers are fine. Crede's been a huge bonus so far...

Uncle_Patrick
04-26-2006, 03:08 PM
I was looking at some old threads the other day and had forgotten about how much anti-Crede sentiment there was on this site for most of last year. Man, how times have changed. Of course, it helps that two of the biggest instigators (Shoota and White Sox Josh) are no longer with us.

I voted stud.

Chicken Dinner
04-26-2006, 03:10 PM
Using Webster's definition, I would say no.

Main Entry: 1stud http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif (javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?stud0001.wav=stud'))
Pronunciation: 'st&d
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English stod, from Old English stOd; akin to Old Church Slavonic stado flock and probably to Old High German stAn to stand -- more at STAND (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/stand)
1 a : a group of animals and especially horses kept primarily for breeding b : a place (as a farm) where a stud is kept
2 : STUDHORSE (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/studhorse); broadly : a male animal kept for breeding
3 a : a young man : GUY (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/guy); especially : one who is virile and promiscuous b : a tough person c : HUNK (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/hunk+)2
- at stud : for breeding as a stud <retired racehorses at stud>

Nellie_Fox
04-26-2006, 03:11 PM
Way too soon to tell. He'll cool off some; he's bound to. I can't see him putting up the numbers projected at the start of this thread, and he'd be a huge success with lesser numbers given his glove. The question is how much will he cool off?

themilkman7
04-26-2006, 03:14 PM
He very well cold be a stud but he will have to stay consistent unlike he did last year no matter what he is still the best defensive 3rd bagman in the game

credefan24
04-26-2006, 03:17 PM
Stud. no doubt about it, right?!

Glad to see Crede getting some love lately. I've always liked him, and it's great to see him doing well.
Keep it up good guys!

Ol' No. 2
04-26-2006, 03:20 PM
He looks nicer with the haircut.




I may have misconstrued the question. :unsure:

A year ago, the FOJC were fighting an unpopular war against those who would End The Joe Crede Experiment. Now, the thought of moving Crede is unthinkable unless your name is Shoota. He's hit some of the most memorable home runs of the past 12 months, his BA is right where it should be and he is also on course for a gold glove. Definitely a stud.Remember the rage when Seattle wanted Crede in the Garcia trade and Kenny talked them into taking Miguel Olivo instead?:o::o::o::o:

Iwritecode
04-26-2006, 03:25 PM
http://www.matadorcoupe.com/seebee65/stud_finder.jpg

We'd better put one of these on him to find out for sure...

:)

rdwj
04-26-2006, 03:28 PM
http://www.matadorcoupe.com/seebee65/stud_finder.jpg

We'd better put one of these on him to find out for sure...


My wife is so sick of that joke - I use it every time I pick one up. I still get her every once in a while.

If I'm in my tool box, I just get a puzzled look on my face and when she asks me what's wrong, I say, "This think keeps going off every time I get near it"

Ah, comedy - I love it :D:

Dan Mega
04-26-2006, 03:29 PM
Can someone tell me how much longer Crede has on his contract? And if his agent is still the devi- I mean Scott Boras?

Dan Mega
04-26-2006, 03:30 PM
My wife is so sick of that joke - I use it every time I pick one up. I still get her every once in a while.

If I'm in my tool box, I just get a puzzled look on my face and when she asks me what's wrong, I say, "This think keeps going off every time I get near it"

Ah, comedy - I love it :D:

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Ol' No. 2
04-26-2006, 03:32 PM
Can someone tell me how much longer Crede has on his contract? And if his agent is still the devi- I mean Scott Boras?He's on a one-year contract. But he's not FA eligible until after 2008. His agent's pretty much irrelevant until that point.

shes
04-26-2006, 03:32 PM
He won't keep up this pace, but I think .275, 25 HR, 80 RBI with gold-glove caliber defense is a pretty safe bet. I don't know if that's studly or not, but I'm not going to be complaining anytime soon.

sullythered
04-26-2006, 03:51 PM
I think if Joe goes for around .270-.280, 22-28 HR, and 80-90 RBI with the way he plays defense, he is certainly a stud by baseball definition. I haven't looked at the numbers, but he sure seems to be striking out a heck of a lot less this season.

shes
04-26-2006, 03:56 PM
I think if Joe goes for around .270-.280, 22-28 HR, and 80-90 RBI with the way he plays defense, he is certainly a stud by baseball definition. I haven't looked at the numbers, but he sure seems to be striking out a heck of a lot less this season.

Yeah, I suppose you're right. And let's not forget just how clutch a lot of those RBI and HRs are.

Baby Fisk
04-26-2006, 03:58 PM
Yeah, I suppose you're right. And let's not forget just how clutch a lot of those RBI and HRs are.
And remember early last year and seasons before that when Crede always seemed to be the King of Unclutch At-Bats? He's finally come around for good!

Chisox003
04-26-2006, 04:05 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...I love being a turtle

Wait no...

DAMN have times changed! Crede in the same sentence as "stud" on WSI?

:o: :o: :o:

I voted stud, by the way

:bandance:

ewokpelts
04-26-2006, 04:13 PM
aside from october 2005, he's been a flop

spiffie
04-26-2006, 04:15 PM
aside from october 2005, he's been a flop
And other than that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

cbotnyse
04-26-2006, 04:19 PM
aside from october 2005, he's been a flop

:o: :?: I would not call him a flop...he's got a hot bat right now and an even hotter glove......a glove as good as his is a great asset to have......I'm a huge Crede fan

PicktoCLick72
04-26-2006, 04:32 PM
I really believe this strong start shows Crede is coming into his own. He will have his slumps, but I they won't be as prolonged as before.

ondafarm
04-26-2006, 04:40 PM
aside from october 2005, he's been a flop

Here Mrs O'Leary, use my latern!

batmanZoSo
04-26-2006, 04:44 PM
aside from october 2005, he's been a flop
Flop to me equals a bust. Joe Borchard was a flop. Crede just never met his expectations offensively. Defensively, I think he far exceeded them. I mean no one ever said he was a butcher, but no scouting reports I ever read led me to believe he'd be a magician with the glove...

And some are iffy as what stud means. As I presented it, it means 30 homers and 100 rbis with an average well above the career .255 mark he's had so far. In other words, can he put up the kind of numbers he did in Charlotte?

ewokpelts
04-26-2006, 04:56 PM
I really believe this strong start shows Crede is coming into his own. He will have his slumps, but I they won't be as prolonged as before.like the one he had in all of 2003, 2004, and most of 2005?

miker
04-26-2006, 05:08 PM
I don't swing that way...

...but I've always liked his glove and ever since last September I finally am seeing the hitter I thought he was going to be!

PAPChiSox729
04-26-2006, 05:16 PM
Hahaha. Oh how funny this is! I was talking to a fellow Sox fan at my school. He said word for word, "Crede is a stud." So I guess that means that I am supposed to vote stud. Keep it up, Joe!

AnkleSox
04-26-2006, 05:18 PM
like the one he had in all of 2003, 2004, and most of 2005?

Joe's averages for those years:

21 HR
69 RBI
.251 BA

I wouldn't really say the entire past 3 years were one prolonged slump. He had some hot and cold streaks during those years, but when he was hot he could carry the team. Paulie's been prone to cold streaks as well, but no one here would even think about calling him a flop.

For a bottom of the order guy with his glove, Joe has been far better offensively than what a lot of other teams have. Nobody's asking him to be Pujols. Also, Joe's RBI totals are probably somewhat deflated after hitting behind the likes of Thomas, Konerko, Lee, and Ordonez in 03 and 04. If he was hitting in one of those slots I would think he'd have a few more RBIs on the year.

1951Campbell
04-26-2006, 05:21 PM
Right now he projects the following with 550 ABs:

.318 33 HR 133 RBI .576 SLG

His 162 game average for his career:

.255 24 HR 81 RBI .439 SLG

Do you think he's more in line with the projection or the historic?



Historic. But he'll beat the historic by a decent amount.

Crede turned the corner last season and anyone who is not a FOJC at this point is slightly loopy. But .318/33/133? C'mon, he ain't Mike Schmidt.

hawkjt
04-26-2006, 05:50 PM
Joe just refuses to strike out these days. He has become a real contact guy that also has power. I know this cant last but who knows.

Always have been a big fan- keep it going superJoe.

fquaye149
04-26-2006, 06:41 PM
like the one he had in all of 2003, 2004, and most of 2005?

Shoota - is that you?

SIGN JOE ****ING RANDA!!!! IMMEDIATELY

FarWestChicago
04-26-2006, 08:09 PM
Shoota - is that you?

SIGN JOE ****ING RANDA!!!! IMMEDIATELYI think so. I've got some research to do. :redneck

Bobbo35
04-26-2006, 08:09 PM
I am not putting the cart before the horse, but if Joe continues the way he is playing for the rest of the season he better get the gold glove.

rookie
04-26-2006, 08:38 PM
Crede is awesome with the glove, reliable with the bat, and is very nice to look at as well! :redface:

Mohoney
04-27-2006, 03:26 PM
And some are iffy as what stud means. As I presented it, it means 30 homers and 100 rbis with an average well above the career .255 mark he's had so far. In other words, can he put up the kind of numbers he did in Charlotte?

So, would Robin Ventura qualify as a stud?