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patbooyah
04-20-2006, 06:52 PM
i just heard it on my old man's show. he broke two bones in wrist. tough day to be a cubs fan. i feel bad. i genuinely like lee, unlike prior.

on tribune's site, as well:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060420lee,1,5989180.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

elrod
04-20-2006, 06:56 PM
Derrek Lee has two broken bones in his wrist and will be out 2-3 months. This post is certainly not for "gloating". Derrek Lee is a great ballplayer and an all-around class act. I wish him a full and complete recovery.

As for what it means for the Cubs is hard to tell. Last year they rallied and played their best ball when Prior got hurt. Will that happen this year? Or will missing their big hitter in the middle of the lineup (and potential MVP) kill the team's chances for the season?

gbergman
04-20-2006, 06:57 PM
this is unfortunate he is a great baseball player and a sure all star had he not gotten hurt. we shall see how the cubs respond

mikeybooyah
04-20-2006, 06:59 PM
kind of ironic furcal did it...being that he was almost a cub and all.

tough break, i like d.lee

CHISOXFAN13
04-20-2006, 07:00 PM
I suffered a broken bone in my wrist and by the time I got my cast off, it took a good 4 weeks to regain the strength I had lost. If he has to be in a cast for 6 weeks, he's likely out until the ASB, IMO.

I'm not going to say I'm dissapointed that Sox pitchers won't have to deal with his bat for at leass three games.

JohnBasedowYoda
04-20-2006, 07:02 PM
i guess never stand on top of 1st base when someone is running full speed at it trying to beat out a play.

Vernam
04-20-2006, 07:02 PM
I take no pleasure in his -- or anyone else's -- injury, but to Cub fans this is just the excuse they've been craving. I love hearing 'em call radio shows and proclaim that the Sox won last year because they didn't have any injuries. For almost a century, Cub fans have distinguished themselves in their near-total denial of reality. In their minds, they'd win the Series frequently if not for bad luck. If that's not the definition of a sucker . . .

Vernam

wsoxfan
04-20-2006, 07:03 PM
any confirmation of this news? if that's true that sucks, he was actually a really good player and not some overrated hype like Kerry Wood...

patbooyah
04-20-2006, 07:08 PM
i actually think it has become funny watching prior and wood struggle with injuries just because the cubs lie and manipulate the truth about those two so much and it is comical how injury prone they are.

this sucks. d lee is a stud.

peeonwrigley
04-20-2006, 07:08 PM
This blows. I love watching DLee hit.

elrod
04-20-2006, 07:10 PM
any confirmation of this news? if that's true that sucks, he was actually a really good player and not some overrated hype like Kerry Wood...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cs-060420lee,1,4384770.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed

In a cast for 6 weeks. "Could be" out 2-3 months. Sounds about right considering he'll be out of the cast in 1.5 months and it takes a few weeks to get over the soreness so he can swing a bat. Wrists are pretty important for hitting...

Fenway
04-20-2006, 07:13 PM
and a Billy Goat goes Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


It has to be hard to be a Cubs fan

chisoxmike
04-20-2006, 07:13 PM
If this is true, this is a horrible thing to happen to a great player. Yeah, he's on the Cubs, but the man is a menace. He is the only reason why I'd watch a Cubs game.

wsoxfan
04-20-2006, 07:14 PM
yeah I just saw, that sucks for him. At least he signed his big contract a few weeks ago I guess if it's any sort of consilation. If he wouldn't have signed it then he might have turned into another Nomar and screwed himself over later...

CHIsoxNation
04-20-2006, 07:28 PM
This is some terrible news. I, like most people have already said, only watch cubs games anymore to watch D-Lee. He is a real class act and deserved every bit of that contract he received last week. I was hoping he'd contend for the NL MVP again.

MUsoxfan
04-20-2006, 07:29 PM
All this right after signing that monster contract. Kinda makes you wonder:whistle:


In all seriousness, I like the guy and wish him a speedy recovery. The Cubs don't need to not have him to lose

JUribe1989
04-20-2006, 07:41 PM
The Cubs losing Derrek Lee is like the Red Sox losing David Ortiz or the Cardinals losing Albert Pujols. He can't be replaced. Best of luck to D-Lee and wishing a speedy recovery. I really didn't think it was that bad at first. These injuries sometimes heal quicker than imagined.

Chisox1500
04-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Wow. I think it's wait til next year already.

viagracat
04-20-2006, 07:44 PM
Hate to see the good ones go down, no matter who they're playing for. It would be like the Sox losing Konerko, and no true sports fan wants to ever see that happen.

Hope he gets back and kicks ass--after the Sox series.

Viva Medias B's
04-20-2006, 07:44 PM
It's a shame. D-Lee is proof that not all Cubs are bad guys.

dickallen15
04-20-2006, 07:47 PM
Considering how important the wrists are for hitting, I think it will be at least 3 months before he is anywhere near 100% if he has a cast on it for 6 weeks. Usually the Cubs are extremely optimistic with recovery times. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't return until August, and isn't fully recovered until 2007. He is a Cub, but he is a great player.

veeter
04-20-2006, 07:51 PM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that. So instead of fourth place they'll finish in fifth. This will take all the attention from the fact that Hendry didn't put together a good pitching staff.

Layla
04-20-2006, 08:01 PM
As I've previously mentioned I always give the Cubs fans at work grief.

But this morning, one of the first things I mentioned was Lee and how bad it looked on TV.

I didn't want to be right.

Here's to a speedy recovery.

santo=dorf
04-20-2006, 08:03 PM
It's a shame. D-Lee is proof that not all Cubs are bad guys.
I don't dislike him as much as Zambrainless, Barrett, or Ramirez, but he sure lost a lot of respect from me whining about deek play on him or that stupid ass comment about wanting to see Chicago go crazy for a title.

I bet the Pirates are really kicking themselves for losing Shelton now. They could've traded him to the Cubs for Blanco and Neifi. :redneck

WhiteSoxFan84
04-20-2006, 08:04 PM
derek lee in an interview earlier this year said that the mlbpa asked him to hold out and test the free agency market. since he didnt, do u guys think that the mlbpa told rafael furcal to destory derek lee?

alohafri
04-20-2006, 08:05 PM
My dislike of the Cubs has waned a bit since WE WON THE WORLD SERIES. I always considered Derrek Lee a class act and it is a shame that this would happen to him. I hope he recovers sometime after July 3.

RedHeadPaleHoser
04-20-2006, 08:10 PM
WOW...like everyone else here, I only would watch a Cub game for Lee. The guy deserved a good contract...but not the injury.

I agree with another poster - now, it will be, "if only..." and Hendry's continued butchering of that team will be overshadowed.

Get well Derek.

Hey...how do us WSI'ers get a "get well" post or online card to D Lee? No teal either...

Ol' No. 2
04-20-2006, 08:11 PM
derek lee in an interview earlier this year said that the mlbpa asked him to hold out and test the free agency market. since he didnt, do u guys think that the mlbpa told rafael furcal to destory derek lee?ilikethisnewstylewhybotherwithpunctuashunorspe llingandstuffthisismucheasier

buehrle4cy05
04-20-2006, 08:12 PM
Man, that's tough. You never want to see a player of his calibur get injured and be out for that long, especially on a freak play.

Hope Lee makes a full and speedy recovery. As everyone here has stated, he's a class act, a guy good for the game.

Hitmen77
04-20-2006, 08:17 PM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that. So instead of fourth place they'll finish in fifth. This will take all the attention from the fact that Hendry didn't put together a good pitching staff.

Wow - that is bad news for him and for Cub fans. I'm sorry to hear it. Like a few of you have said, the Cubs don't need bad-luck injuries to suck. I'm all for them finishing 4th without freak injuries. Unfortuately, this will be their excuse for not winning in '06.

I agree with you veeter, when the Sox lost two monster hitters for the season, no one said it was bad luck for the Sox. They all just said the Sox suck. If you don't believe that, just read the other thread about Jacque Jones's comments about the Sox.

jenn2080
04-20-2006, 08:22 PM
I think this thread shows a lot of class unlike what people may think of our fans. I like Lee alot and wish him all the best. He is a great player and I hope he recovers quickly.

eastchicagosoxfan
04-20-2006, 08:25 PM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that. So instead of fourth place they'll finish in fifth. This will take all the attention from the fact that Hendry didn't put together a good pitching staff.
Exactly!! Guys get hurt. If the Cubs play through the injury, good for them. But when they're in fourth or fifth place in July when he's back, don't cry about what could have been.

ondafarm
04-20-2006, 08:32 PM
I never like to see an injury in baseball (or any professional sport.) I was watching the game live (MLB Extra Innings) and knew the play was trouble when Furcal dropped the bunt down. I thought the pitcher should have just kept the ball as once the guy is past the pitcher, you'd better be throwing the ball or forget it. Lee seemed to be doing the right thing for a first baseman, go after the ball, his feet seemed to catch on the bag and he brought his hands up to protect himself.

No one's fault, but next time you hear Hawk say "stick it in your pocket" you'll know why, it avoids injuries like this one.

D.Lee is a class guy and I hope he fully recovers and right quickly.

JB98
04-20-2006, 08:43 PM
I certainly wish D-Lee a full recovery. He is a tremendous player, and he seems like a good guy. His only real flaw is he plays for the wrong team.

I have no such sympathy for Cubs fans. I enjoy watching them suffer.

cheeses_h_rice
04-20-2006, 08:47 PM
Wow, that's weird. I first saw the replay today during lunch and it just looked like a routine collision. I thought Lee would miss at most a few games.

So, did he break the bones on the collision, or hitting the ground?

Either way, very tough break for the North Siders. Do they have a viable option at first base now?

Blueprint1
04-20-2006, 08:51 PM
You have to feel bad for the cubs fans. Remeber how much it sucked in 2004 when Maggs and Thomas went down.

JB98
04-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Wow, that's weird. I first saw the replay today during lunch and it just looked like a routine collision. I thought Lee would miss at most a few games.

So, did he break the bones on the collision, or hitting the ground?

Either way, very tough break for the North Siders. Do they have a viable option at first base now?

He broke it on the collision. If you look at the replay, he extended his right hand to brace himself for the contact. When Furcal hit him, his wrist bent backwards at an odd angle. I think he fell to the ground because of the pain.

I think Cubs options for first base are John Mabry and Todd Walker. I wouldn't be surprised if Clown Shoes puts Walker at first and plays Perez at second every day. "Nifty Neifi" has always been one of Dusty's favorites, dating back to the Giants days.

JB98
04-20-2006, 08:53 PM
You have to feel bad for the cubs fans. Remeber how much it sucked in 2004 when Maggs and Thomas went down.

I don't think the Cubs fans sympathized with us in 2004, so no, I don't have to feel bad for them.

Palehose Pete
04-20-2006, 09:02 PM
I hope D. Lee gets well soon, for his own sake and, for selfish reasons, because he's on two of my fantasy teams.

Pureone
04-20-2006, 09:07 PM
That sucks, he is the only player on the team I like besides Maddux.

SOXSINCE'70
04-20-2006, 09:07 PM
I feel bad for such a class act.I wish he weren't
wearing that vomit blue uniform.:puking:

Brian26
04-20-2006, 09:08 PM
i genuinely like lee, unlike prior.


I don't like anyone who wears a Cubs uniform, period.

I also don't feel sorry for anyone after what happened to us in 2004 when our two best hitters went down for the entire second half of the season. No matter what anyone says, we had a shot to do something in the postseason.

With that said, I don't root for injuries, and it is unfortunate that Lee got hurt. I will acknowledge its a tough break for them. There's no room for gloating, because I don't want any injuries to happen to Sox guys.

SOXSINCE'70
04-20-2006, 09:08 PM
That sucks, he is the only player on the team I like besides Maddux.

I'd like Maddux a lot more if he'd get traded 8.1 miles south of Lakeview.

QCIASOXFAN
04-20-2006, 09:13 PM
Not a good time to be a Cubs fan. Its pretty typical that this happens to the Cubs, as Cub fans talk up how good the team is this year and then D.Lee gets ran over and is gone for 2-3 months.

JB98
04-20-2006, 09:22 PM
I'd like Maddux a lot more if he'd get traded 8.1 miles south of Lakeview.

To be our No. 7 starter?

Soxfanspcu11
04-20-2006, 09:24 PM
that stupid ass comment about wanting to see Chicago go crazy for a title.



That's my biggest and only problem about him.

Hey Assjob, the city DID go crazy when the SOX won the World Series on October 26th, 2005! Where were you??:?:


Anyway, it does kind of suck for him, he is such a natural hitter, it's a joy to watch him.

However, prepare yourselves for the endless bitching from Flubs fans who now have an excuse to say, "This WOULD have been our year if DLee wasn't injured!!" Right.:rolleyes:

soxwon
04-20-2006, 09:26 PM
I think this thread shows a lot of class unlike what people may think of our fans. I like Lee alot and wish him all the best. He is a great player and I hope he recovers quickly.

he is a class act.
How come the Cubs are allways injured?
they sure have alot of em.

And the sox hardly get injured!!!

JB98
04-20-2006, 09:26 PM
That's my biggest and only problem about him.

Hey Assjob, the city DID go crazy when the SOX won the World Series on October 26th, 2005! Where were you??:?:


Anyway, it does kind of suck for him, he is such a natural hitter, it's a joy to watch him.

However, prepare yourselves for the endless bitching from Flubs fans who now have an excuse to say, "This WOULD have been our year if DLee wasn't injured!!" Right.:rolleyes:

If it's not one thing, it's another. They *always* have an excuse.

JB98
04-20-2006, 09:27 PM
he is a class act.
How come the Cubs are allways injured?
they sure have alot of em.

And the sox hardly get injured!!!

No, we have injuries (Hermanson, Dustin). We just don't whine about ours.

SoxSpeed22
04-20-2006, 09:30 PM
http://www.hrwiki.org/images/thumb/b/b0/blue-laser.PNG/250px-blue-laser.PNG
(numerous explitives)!

The more of this that happens, the more superstitious I get about if there really was such a thing as curses.

And in case you don't get the picture, Derrek Lee was my big acqisition for my H2H team named Blue Laser, which is the two characters in the picture. And to top it all off, I traded Jim Thome to get him.

patbooyah
04-20-2006, 09:31 PM
I don't like anyone who wears a Cubs uniform, period.



see, i don't mind the cubs players unless they are ********s about the rivalry like maddux and howry.

i can't stand the fans.

as much as i don't like to see d lee go down because i like watching good baseball, i do take satisfaction in the faint sound of cubs fan's hearts breaking. i love it when cubs fans suffer.

peeonwrigley
04-20-2006, 09:32 PM
That's my biggest and only problem about him.

Hey Assjob, the city DID go crazy when the SOX won the World Series on October 26th, 2005! Where were you??:?:



http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_117601.jpg

"Somewhere warm playing golf, my season was over in July."

Dick Allen
04-20-2006, 09:33 PM
I feel bad for D Lee and wish him a speedy recovery. But I don't feel bad for the Tribune Co. or the idiot fans.

Ol' No. 2
04-20-2006, 09:34 PM
I'd like Maddux a lot more if he'd get traded 8.1 miles south of Lakeview.:hawk Where would he play?

oeo
04-20-2006, 09:42 PM
he is a class act.
How come the Cubs are allways injured?
they sure have alot of em.

And the sox hardly get injured!!!

Blame that one on Scott Eyre, what an idiot. He was trying to force a play that wasn't even there and he looked like a total idiot/put Lee in a bad position in the process.

Jacob Nelson Fox
04-20-2006, 09:59 PM
The Cardinals lost a comparable player for most of last year (Rolen) and still sucked it up and won 100 games. Let's see what the Men in Blue can do besides make excuses.

DickAllen72
04-20-2006, 10:08 PM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that.

Thank you.

SouthSide_HitMen
04-20-2006, 10:23 PM
ilikethisnewstylewhybotherwithpunctuashunorspellin gandstuffthisismucheasier

POTW - Contender for POTY (year).

:rolling: :rolling:

Sad news about Lee. I rather beat them on the field at their best.

TheOldRoman
04-20-2006, 10:26 PM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that. So instead of fourth place they'll finish in fifth. This will take all the attention from the fact that Hendry didn't put together a good pitching staff.
Exactly. I feel bad for Lee, and I wish him a speedy recovery.
But this pisses me off. We are going to get excuses the entire year from trash talking blue sheep. "We would have won it this year of Lee didn't injure himself." I guess Lee's injury will cause Jaque Jones to suck, Ramirez to make 25 errors, Neifi Perez to bat .220, Maddux' era to climb over 5, and Prior and Wood to stay injured.
The Cubune will have a daily 10 page "Lee Update", in which they have a computer simulate the season to that point if Lee was healthy the whole year. It will undoubtedly have the Cubs winning 110 games.
The fact is, the Cubs are a very bad team. They were a very bad team even with the MVP caliber Lee on them. They were destined for 4th or 5th place before the injury, and now they might just finish below the Pirates. All will be right in the Tribune Tower, though. They will sell their fans that "D Lee will be healthy in 07, and the Cubs will win it all!"

soxjim
04-20-2006, 10:27 PM
I hope that Derrek Lee has a speedy recovery. I just got a cast off my wrist about 2 weeks ago. It was on for 7 weeks. I played ball last night and feel it today. Twisting my wrist still gives me some problems.

lostletters
04-20-2006, 10:31 PM
this is unfortunate he is a great baseball player and a sure all star had he not gotten hurt. we shall see how the cubs respond

I actually feel bad about Lee being hurt. He is a great ballplayer.

Unlike the pitching injuries this guy is not overrated and this cannot be blamed on bad mechanics or a crappy pitching coach and trainer. This is an injury from a hard collision.

Lee is one of the few players I like on the Cubs, and I do feel bad for the player and the team in this instance.

Lip Man 1
04-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Hey when the Cubs don't win again this season Dusty has a ready made excuse....'we were injured!'

Lip

Cuck the Fubs
04-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Tough break for Mr. Lee....he is a cassy guy and ya hate to see him get injured.

This is going to devastate the Cubbies....a HUGE hole in the heart of the line up, and D Lee was saving Aramis 20 errors a year with his glove.

The worst part of the entire thing is what everyone else is saying here....lookout for falling excuses!

This was going to be OUR year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Chisox003
04-20-2006, 10:38 PM
Hey when the Cubs don't win again this season Dusty has a ready made excuse....'we were injured!'

Lip
It's academic.

Banix12
04-20-2006, 10:40 PM
What makes this hurt a bit more is that the Cubs top 1b prospect Brian Dopirak is on the DL at AA because he broke his foot a couple weeks ago and will probably be out at least another month and a half. Not that it would have been a sure thing of him getting called up anyway but this leaves them probably calling up Brandon Sing, decent bat but a butcher at 1b.

The loss of him to the cubs on offense will be nothing compared to the loss of him on defense. He has acted as a crutch to the suspect infielders such as Ramirez.

cws05champ
04-20-2006, 10:41 PM
This is going to devastate the Cubbies....a HUGE hole in the heart of the line up, and D Lee was saving Aramis 20 errors a year with his glove.

I agree, not only do they lose their best bat, but the defense he provided. With a rook SS, Aramis and Neifi...it could get ugly fast!

gaelhound
04-20-2006, 10:47 PM
Wow, that's weird. I first saw the replay today during lunch and it just looked like a routine collision. I thought Lee would miss at most a few games.

So, did he break the bones on the collision, or hitting the ground?

Either way, very tough break for the North Siders. Do they have a viable option at first base now?
Can't they get that He Sop Choy guy back?

GoSox2K3
04-20-2006, 11:04 PM
You have to feel bad for the cubs fans. Remeber how much it sucked in 2004 when Maggs and Thomas went down.

Except we didn't have the Cubune calling our injuries "heartbreaking" like they do with Nomar. :rolleyes: All I heard in '04 after our guys went down was how the Sox suck.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060419cubsgamer,1,4537158.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines

Banix12
04-20-2006, 11:18 PM
Can't they get that He Sop Choy guy back?

I thought he was still injured? Not really sure what would be on the trade market right now. Eric Hinske from Toronto could probably be had easily just off the top of my head.

thomas35forever
04-20-2006, 11:20 PM
This injury probably kills any hope the Cubs have for the '06 season left. Wood and Prior going down was really bad, but to lose D-Lee, how do you rebound from that? It's always a shame to see such great players go down like this.

DrCrawdad
04-20-2006, 11:24 PM
I never like to see an injury in baseball (or any professional sport.) I was watching the game live (MLB Extra Innings) and knew the play was trouble when Furcal dropped the bunt down. I thought the pitcher should have just kept the ball as once the guy is past the pitcher, you'd better be throwing the ball or forget it. Lee seemed to be doing the right thing for a first baseman, go after the ball, his feet seemed to catch on the bag and he brought his hands up to protect himself.

No one's fault, but next time you hear Hawk say "stick it in your pocket" you'll know why, it avoids injuries like this one.

D.Lee is a class guy and I hope he fully recovers and right quickly.

By contrast I saw the following post on a Cub discussion board and he was not the sole person to make this kind of comment:


"Someone should...I hope Z nails Furcal in the Head next series with the dodgers...you know he will..." - Cubbie fan

I can't see how anyone who watched the play could blame Furcal. Furcal did run on the inside of the baseline for the first half of the way, but Lee clearly put himself into the basepath. Blame Eyre for the very bad toss and Lee's momentary lapse of judgement for putting himself in a position where he could and did get hurt.

DrCrawdad
04-20-2006, 11:25 PM
see, i don't mind the cubs players unless they are ********s about the rivalry like maddux and howry.

i can't stand the fans.

as much as i don't like to see d lee go down because i like watching good baseball, i do take satisfaction in the faint sound of cubs fan's hearts breaking. i love it when cubs fans suffer.

I know what you're saying.

Driving home today I heard Steve talking about you and the job offer to test video games. Funny...unless you're Pat Dahl.

hawkjt
04-20-2006, 11:31 PM
They are saying 8-10 weeks. I bet he is back for the Sox series in July. I do not wish ill on DLee as he is one of the good guys. Ozzie is a buddy.

I think the NL is so weak that the cubs can weather this storm , stay around .500 and still make a run in august and sept. Baseball has a long season and guys still can come back and have decent seasons.

I hope he makes it back right after the sox series- he rakes.

PKalltheway
04-20-2006, 11:32 PM
This stinks. I actually liked Derrek Lee. Derrek is the type of ballplayer that lets his play on the field do the talking and he never talks trash about other teams (like Jacque Jones and Bob Howry about a particular team:angry: ). All the damage he needs to do is with his bat and glove, not his mouth.

jenn2080
04-20-2006, 11:34 PM
Blame that one on Scott Eyre, what an idiot. He was trying to force a play that wasn't even there and he looked like a total idiot/put Lee in a bad position in the process.


Someone should have closelined that guy after the game. Lee should not be hurt right not cuz the moron should not have throwed the ball to him. Smooth move

DrCrawdad
04-20-2006, 11:37 PM
This stinks. I actually liked Derrek Lee. Derrek is the type of ballplayer that lets his play on the field do the talking and he never talks trash about other teams (like Jacque Jones and Bob Howry about a particular team:angry: ). All the damage he needs to do is with his bat and glove, not his mouth.

Wasn't it Lee who was (complaining) about being deked by Uribe last year at The Shrine?

MUsoxfan
04-21-2006, 12:00 AM
Wasn't it Lee who was (complaining) about being deked by Uribe last year at The Shrine?

So what? He was embarressed. I wish the guy well and hope for his speedy recovery.

milrtyme28
04-21-2006, 01:19 AM
I tried to have an intelligent conversation about this with a good friend of mine that is a huge cub fan tonight over a few beers - and the conversation quickly deteriorated into a discussion about how great the marketing department for the cubs is. They apparently own all the bars in wrigleyville and will still draw more fans than the sox? I dont really get it - if we were talking about PK or JT here I would be devestated and not thinking about bars.

Whatever - Lee is a solid player and he seems like a good guy. I feel bad he went down on a play like that and it sucks that it just creates another excuse for the lemmings.

With that said you have to start to wonder about this whole curse thing. The cubs lose key players like clockwork. It is a regular thing. Its almost to the point of being a joke if we werent talking about human beings here. They just have a knack for having whatever bright spot or strong point shrivel up and get hurt as soon as things start to look good.

I thank my Godfather for taking me to the old park back when I was little and turning me into a Sox fan - he has spared me the anguish of cubdom.

WhiteSoxFan84
04-21-2006, 03:17 AM
ilikethisnewstylewhybotherwithpunctuashunorspellin gandstuffthisismucheasier

:?:

...........i'll take the high road on this one. but i will say this; whether i capitalize or not, you'll get my point and you understand it dont you? if not, here's an idea, ignore all my posts. i hope you know i didn't poop in your cereal this morning and i hope you find out who did though.

Blueprint1
04-21-2006, 03:27 AM
I hope that Derrek Lee has a speedy recovery. I just got a cast off my wrist about 2 weeks ago. It was on for 7 weeks. I played ball last night and feel it today. Twisting my wrist still gives me some problems.

I broke my wrist in 1999 it was not 100% for about two years. I had the same surgery as Pronger who used to play for the St.Louis blues. The surgery basically ended his career as a superstar of hockey.

Blueprint1
04-21-2006, 03:33 AM
This is going to devastate the Cubbies....a HUGE hole in the heart of the line up, and D Lee was saving Aramis 20 errors a year with his glove.

I agree, not only do they lose their best bat, but the defense he provided. With a rook SS, Aramis and Neifi...it could get ugly fast!

How will Zambrano react to these errors?

CanBuehrleWait
04-21-2006, 04:31 AM
How will Zambrano react to these errors?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/02/250px-Nuclear_fireball.jpg:?:

SoxFan76
04-21-2006, 04:44 AM
:(:

D. Lee is one of the few Cub players I've liked.

I wish him a speedy recovery.

Hangar18
04-21-2006, 08:09 AM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.

Hangar18
04-21-2006, 08:14 AM
That's my biggest and only problem about him.

Hey Assjob, the city DID go crazy when the SOX won the World Series on October 26th, 2005! Where were you??:?:


Anyway, it does kind of suck for him, he is such a natural hitter, it's a joy to watch him.

However, prepare yourselves for the endless bitching from Flubs fans who now have an excuse to say, "This WOULD have been our year if DLee wasn't injured!!" Right.:rolleyes:

Same here. That was a Ridiculous comment for him to make. He is an assjob, for not realizing the City of Chicago going Crazy after winning a championship. IDIOT. Bottom line, nobody told him to be a cub,
he CHOSE to be a cub. Whatever happens, happens

MsSoxVixen22
04-21-2006, 08:15 AM
Derrek Lee has two broken bones in his wrist and will be out 2-3 months. This post is certainly not for "gloating". Derrek Lee is a great ballplayer and an all-around class act. I wish him a full and complete recovery.

As for what it means for the Cubs is hard to tell. Last year they rallied and played their best ball when Prior got hurt. Will that happen this year? Or will missing their big hitter in the middle of the lineup (and potential MVP) kill the team's chances for the season?


My sediments exactly....I feel the same way.

TomBradley72
04-21-2006, 08:16 AM
Too bad for DLee...never happy about any injury.

As for the Cubs overall, their fans, the media....I'm all torn up about it.

Over the years I've seen White Sox seasons ruined by injuries to: Bill Melton, Wilbur Wood, Richie Zisk, Carlton Fisk, Rich Dotson, Ozzie Guillen, Robin Ventura, Frank Thomas, Magglio Ordonez...if they can't overcome this injury...too bad....that's what a good farm system (either for call ups or trade material) or a good bench is for. The Cubs have neither.

oeo
04-21-2006, 08:21 AM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.

Only because that idiot Scott Eyre is the one who caused it. I still can't believe he put his teammate in a position like that. Like Hawk says, you can just put that one in your pocket. No one is going to make the play, Eyre, just let it go and get the next guy...don't force something that isn't there and then put the star of your team in a position like that. I'd be pissed if one of the Sox pitchers did that to Paulie.

Hangar18
04-21-2006, 08:31 AM
...............if they can't overcome this injury...
too bad....that's what a good farm system (either for call ups or trade material) or a good bench is for. The Cubs have neither.

Ummmmm, the Pittsburgh Pirates? Florida Marlins? Tampa Devil Rays?
These teams are all extended farm clubs for the Cubs. With that,
watch for "trade" talks to heat up with those 3 teams exclusively, esp with Miguel Cabrera. Who needs a farm when youve got the Pirates and Marlins freely giving you good, quality, all-star caliber, gold-glove players.

Corlose 15
04-21-2006, 08:52 AM
In 2004 when the Sox were in first place, Mags AND Frank went down for THE SEASON, in the same week. No excuses were made by the Sox or FOR the Sox by the media. At the end of the year all anybody said was, the Sox are just a crappy .500 club and Joe Borchard sucks. As much as I hate to see Lee go down, all you'll hear is poor cubbies, poor cubbies...if only this...if only that. So instead of fourth place they'll finish in fifth. This will take all the attention from the fact that Hendry didn't put together a good pitching staff.

EXACTLY! Also note that no one seemed to remember that the '04 Sox won 83 games w/o those guys so that was the baseline from which the rebuilding for '05 started. Hmm, that would require actual work though so.......

As for the Cubs, has anyone noticed how everyone seems to be crying over the poor cubbies and their bad luck? In Ken Rosenthal's analysis of this injury he mentions "typical cubs bad luck". *****, so the fact that the Cubs have been horse**** for the last 60 years is all based on luck?:rolleyes: People get hurt, and the good teams and organizations have some sort of contigency plan. I know Lee is pretty much irreplaceable but the Cubs weren't going anywhere anyways.

As for the injury itself, it says he broke the distal radius and ulna. In my VERY limited medical opinion, that should be better than breaking any of the carpals due to better blood supply to promote healing.

Uncle_Patrick
04-21-2006, 08:57 AM
Wasn't it Lee who was (complaining) about being deked by Uribe last year at The Shrine?

I think it was Dusty and Cubs fans who were actually complaining. If I recall, Lee admitted he made a mistake by not looking to his 3rd base coach.

Lee seems like a stand up guy so this sucks that it happened to him although I'm not exactly broken hearted that the Cubs lost their best player. I gotta say, though, if I could ever believe that a baseball team was cursed, I might be inclined to believe it in the case of the Cubs.

Uncle_Patrick
04-21-2006, 08:59 AM
.

as much as i don't like to see d lee go down because i like watching good baseball, i do take satisfaction in the faint sound of cubs fan's hearts breaking. i love it when cubs fans suffer.

Amen to that!

Mickster
04-21-2006, 09:20 AM
as much as i don't like to see d lee go down because i like watching good baseball, i do take satisfaction in the faint sound of cubs fan's hearts breaking. i love it when cubs fans suffer.

Your post reminds me of this:

http://www.empathy.glwb.info/media/ralph_01.jpg
"Watch this, Lis. You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half."

jdm2662
04-21-2006, 09:23 AM
I think it was Dusty and Cubs fans who were actually complaining. If I recall, Lee admitted he made a mistake by not looking to his 3rd base coach.

Lee seems like a stand up guy so this sucks that it happened to him although I'm not exactly broken hearted that the Cubs lost their best player. I gotta say, though, if I could ever believe that a baseball team was cursed, I might be inclined to believe it in the case of the Cubs.

That's how I remember it as well. Lee didn't complain about it, but blamed himself. It was Dusty that was whinning about it. It's too bad this happened. Lee is one of the few Cubs I actually like.

soxfan13
04-21-2006, 09:30 AM
Im alittle POed cuz in just blew up my fantasy team :angry:

spiffie
04-21-2006, 09:32 AM
If this shows anything, it is how big a role luck can play in things. I was there last weekend when Iguchi made his flying in mid air and tripping all over himself throw to first. And watching the Eyre/Lee play happen on the news this morning all I could think was "if Gooch throws that thing just a bit off target that could be Konerko hitting the DL". I never like to see injuries happen due to bad luck. If it's something like Kerry Wood, where it seems like purposely ignores advice on how to avoid injury that's one thing, but this is just a crappy fluke play that could happen to anyone, no matter what uniform they wear. As a baseball fan I like watching Lee play, no matter what uniform he wears and I hope he recovers 100% from this.

Iwritecode
04-21-2006, 09:36 AM
Hey when the Cubs don't win again this season Dusty has a ready made excuse....'we were injured!'

Lip

What's really said is that Steve Stone thinks this increases Dusty's chances of getting a contract extension.

The Cubs have a bad year? Well, they lost their best player, you can't blame Dusty.

The Cubs have a good year? What a great manager Dusty is!

:rolleyes:

gobears1987
04-21-2006, 09:39 AM
I don't think the Cubs fans sympathized with us in 2004, so no, I don't have to feel bad for them.my thoughts exactly. I do on the other hand sympathize for Derreck Lee, but Cub fans get none of that sympathy.

areilly
04-21-2006, 09:39 AM
A guy writing in to the Score put it best. The Cubs' newly-signed overweight relief pitcher makes a stupid play to the star first baseman who just signed a pricey, long-term contract - and that first baseman is then run over by the All-Star shortstop the Cubs were outbid for.

I don't know Lee and personally can't say I'm heartbroken over it. I don't like people getting hurt, but I do like the Cubs having their chances for the season ruined.

The Critic
04-21-2006, 10:17 AM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.

I feel bad for him because he seems like a good guy, I enjoy watching him play and I believe that he'd rather be on the field earning that $65 million than in a cast for 6 weeks.
Whether or not someone wears the Cubbie blue, I can respect them if I feel they deserve respect. Lee seems to be a real decent guy, regardless of the uniform he wears.

Chip Z'nuff
04-21-2006, 10:21 AM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.

Amen brutha! I was thinking the exact same thing. He now has a few weeks off to go spend his money. The only people that are suffering here are the cub fans, and they get what's coming to them.

thepaulbowski
04-21-2006, 10:32 AM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.

It's called trying to show a little class. Just because he plays on the wrong side of town doesn't mean you can't feel bad he got injured. I don't ever want to see anybody get injured.

Then again, some people cheer this sort of stuff.

jenn2080
04-21-2006, 11:18 AM
It's called trying to show a little class. Just because he plays on the wrong side of town doesn't mean you can't feel bad he got injured. I don't ever want to see anybody get injured.

Then again, some people cheer this sort of stuff.

I agree whatever he plays for the Cubs big deal. He is still a good player and deserves some sort of support. He got injured on a crap play. This thread shows def alot of class which I had said before. Ill say it again...who cares about he Cubs I sure dont esp after we won..so there is no need for the bitterness.

ilsox7
04-21-2006, 11:24 AM
It's called trying to show a little class. Just because he plays on the wrong side of town doesn't mean you can't feel bad he got injured. I don't ever want to see anybody get injured.

Then again, some people cheer this sort of stuff.
Such people disgust me. Then again, I am not surprised that some here have had this attitude.

SBSoxFan
04-21-2006, 11:49 AM
A guy writing in to the Score put it best. The Cubs' newly-signed overweight relief pitcher makes a stupid play to the star first baseman who just signed a pricey, long-term contract - and that first baseman is then run over by the All-Star shortstop the Cubs were outbid for.
And there was a poorly timed article at chicagosports.com about how Eyre's a fast food junkie, and how being overweight increases his fastball's velocity. Maybe if he wasn't overweight, he gets to that ball faster, giving him time to make a decent throw. I sure am glad KW couldn't sign this guy!

Also, Lee should've never gone in the baseline. Having said that though, it didn't seem like such a major collision to cause broken bones!

0o0o0
04-21-2006, 12:17 PM
Why is everyone feeling sorry for him? He just broke a wrist. its not life-threatening, and guess what? Thank goodness he signed that contract before the season started and got his $65 Million. Hes getting paid everyone. he'll be OK.
So apparently you have no problem with players playing just for the money?

PatK
04-21-2006, 12:21 PM
I don't feel sorry for anyone, the Cubs, the fans, or Lee. He'll be back- it's not like this is career ending.

Accidents and injuries are a part of sports. The Sox had to deal with this in '04, and instead of complaining about it, they tried to do with what players they had.

All this has done is make me hate idiot Cubs fans and the media even more for bringing this "curse" stuff to the forefront and as an excuse for the cult-like following of a team that somehow gets rewarded and lauded for mediocrity.

palehozenychicty
04-21-2006, 12:26 PM
I don't feel sorry for anyone, the Cubs, the fans, or Lee. He'll be back- it's not like this is career ending.

Accidents and injuries are a part of sports. The Sox had to deal with this in '04, and instead of complaining about it, they tried to do with what players they had.

All this has done is make me hate idiot Cubs fans and the media even more for bringing this "curse" stuff to the forefront and as an excuse for the cult-like following of a team that somehow gets rewarded and lauded for mediocrity.

They've already started whining. I do feel for Lee as he is an excellent player.

lostletters
04-21-2006, 03:22 PM
The D. Lee injury shows why depth on the bench and in the minor league system is so important. The truth is the cubs have no depth at first base. The Sox have Five players who can play this position (Konerko, Thome, RM, Gload, and Dye). Even our pitching rotation has a guy in the bullpen who can also be a starter. KW built a team around depth, Jim Hendry built a team around marketing. KW knows that there will be major and minor injuries at some point in time, so there is a point to keeping guys like Gload and Cintron around.
While nobody can replace D. Lee, the cubs should have somebody of at least Ross Gload quality in thier system.

Half Cocked Jack
04-21-2006, 03:34 PM
My sediments exactly....I feel the same way.
http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/earth_science/utah_sandstone.jpg

TomBradley72
04-21-2006, 03:35 PM
The D. Lee injury shows why depth on the bench and in the minor league system is so important. The truth is the cubs have no depth at first base. The Sox have Five players who can play this position (Konerko, Thome, RM, Gload, and Dye). Even our pitching rotation has a guy in the bullpen who can also be a starter. KW built a team around depth, Jim Hendry built a team around marketing. KW knows that there will be major and minor injuries at some point in time, so there is a point to keeping guys like Gload and Cintron around.
While nobody can replace D. Lee, the cubs should have somebody of at least Ross Gload quality in thier system.

:yup:

Scottiehaswheels
04-21-2006, 03:36 PM
http://www.moorlandschool.co.uk/earth/earth_science/utah_sandstone.jpg

Nice sediments! Looks like the Badlands.. Am I correct?

soxinem1
04-21-2006, 06:33 PM
If Hendry wasn't so cheap Furcal would have never colided with DLee, they would have been teammates!

But since Eyre's throw to first is about as good as his control, I guess it could have happened with anyone battling against him.

Oh well, that's the 'breaks'!!

Maybe they can get Randy Hundley to come down and fill in for awhile.

Then he can make a movie like Bernie Mac did called 'Mr .236'!

Layla
04-21-2006, 07:35 PM
After reading all this I just have to again say what others have said.

Since we won the World Series, my dislike for the Cubs team has shrunk. I had bets this year at who would have the better record and am going to offer to cancel it (it was only two Pepsis). Wood and Prior, sorry to say, are expected to start on the DL and go back on it during the season.

But an injury like this does cut to the heart of the team.

I can't gloat over it. I can't get angry about what the Cubune said two years ago.

The Critic
04-21-2006, 09:03 PM
While nobody can replace D. Lee, the cubs should have somebody of at least Ross Gload quality in thier system.

They used to. His name was Ross Gload.
:D:

lostletters
04-21-2006, 11:30 PM
They used to. His name was Ross Gload.
:D:
Then I have to give KW credit, he robbed the cubs of a great insurance guy. I know people around do not like Gload, but he is GREAT insurance for if and when Konerko or Dye gets injured.

CanBuehrleWait
04-22-2006, 04:26 AM
Then I have to give KW credit, he robbed the cubs of a great insurance guy. I know people around do not like Gload, but he is GREAT insurance for if and when Konerko or Dye gets injured.


Why?:(:

Tragg
04-22-2006, 07:58 AM
The D. Lee injury shows why depth on the bench and in the minor league system is so important. The truth is the cubs have no depth at first base. The Sox have Five players who can play this position (Konerko, Thome, RM, Gload, and Dye). Even our pitching rotation has a guy in the bullpen who can also be a starter. KW built a team around depth, Jim Hendry built a team around marketing. KW knows that there will be major and minor injuries at some point in time, so there is a point to keeping guys like Gload and Cintron around.
While nobody can replace D. Lee, the cubs should have somebody of at least Ross Gload quality in thier system.
But we have our weak spots. What if we lost Pods or even Anderson? Rob M can cover only so many holes. We were desparate for a lefty in the bullpen this spring.
The Cubs have lost their 2 best players. One is a living and breathing injury, so that's not bad luck; but Lee hasn't been like that. It's more fun to see the Cubs choke on their own, without the injury-assist.

soxinem1
04-22-2006, 09:11 AM
But we have our weak spots. What if we lost Pods or even Anderson? Rob M can cover only so many holes. We were desparate for a lefty in the bullpen this spring.
The Cubs have lost their 2 best players. One is a living and breathing injury, so that's not bad luck; but Lee hasn't been like that. It's more fun to see the Cubs choke on their own, without the injury-assist.

I agree. It is more fun watching a weekend series ending the season like the one in Pittsburgh in 2004. Now the 'World's Greatest Fans' have an excuse for 2006:

'Wait til next year!'