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Jjav829
04-13-2006, 04:18 PM
Tigers, welcome back to Earth. Glad to see you suck again.

Nice sweep, even though Garland was bad. :bandance:

nasox
04-13-2006, 04:18 PM
Yay!!

HomeFish
04-13-2006, 04:19 PM
We are now tied for the AL Wildcard with Detroit and the Yankees.

Unregistered
04-13-2006, 04:19 PM
My least favorite win of the year. Scary stuff. But a win is a win and a sweep is a sweep. :D:


:bandance:

nebraskasox
04-13-2006, 04:19 PM
21 hits for Detroit. Not pretty but I'll take it.

Uncle_Patrick
04-13-2006, 04:19 PM
We are now tied for the AL Wildcard with Detroit and the Yankees.

If the season ended today....:rolleyes:

CaptainBallz
04-13-2006, 04:20 PM
The offense really needs to step it up.

JG a gem.

jkrohn
04-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Well at the end of the year no one remembers how you won, just that you won. :smile: Hopefully Garland can put the last couple starts behind him and get some form back.

itsnotrequired
04-13-2006, 04:20 PM
What a wild game. The teams combined for 38 hits. 38!

I had Garland as my PTC. What are my chances?:redneck

ChiWavDave
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Hey I hear the Tiggers are gonna be better this year. So far... Same Tiggers!:bandance: :bandance:

DumpJerry
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
*color has officially returned to Dumpjerry's face*

Ol' No. 2
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
What a wild game. The teams combined for 38 hits. 38!

I had Garland as my PTC. What are my chances?:redneck The pitchers are always ahead of the hitters this time of year.

chisox
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
that was atrocious.

ode to veeck
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
*woohoo*

California Sox
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Ugly but compared to the KC games it is paradise. Gives you even more respect for the job Contreras did yesterday. Tigers are really swinging it. Oh, and JG sucked.

oeo
04-13-2006, 04:21 PM
Now, Tigers, feel free to kick some Indian ass.

LongLiveFisk
04-13-2006, 04:22 PM
It was far from pretty, but I'll take it. :gulp: :bandance:

cbotnyse
04-13-2006, 04:22 PM
like someone said, not the prettiest win, but we'll take it......Thome-on fire...

we need to get a little dancing broom icon for the many more sweeps this year!

Dan Mega
04-13-2006, 04:23 PM
Konerko and Iguchi did exceptional today.

Jjav829
04-13-2006, 04:24 PM
like someone said, not the prettiest win, but we'll take it......Thome-on fire...

we need to get a little dancing broom icon for the many more sweeps this year!

What do you mean "need to get?"

:sweep

:)

Unregistered
04-13-2006, 04:24 PM
What a wild game. The teams combined for 38 hits. 38!

I had Garland as my PTC. What are my chances?:redneck
Your PTC total actually got set to -5 for that pick. :cool:

gbergman
04-13-2006, 04:25 PM
great doffense terrible pitching but a win is a win

itsnotrequired
04-13-2006, 04:26 PM
Your PTC total actually got set to -5 for that pick. :cool:

I figured he was due.:redface:

He did get the win though.:rolleyes:

Baby Fisk
04-13-2006, 04:27 PM
.500 and below sucked. Let's be done with that **** for the season. Bring on the Black Jays!

The Jays are having a somewhat emotionally charged series with Boston this week.

On Tuesday, Josh Beckett and Shea Hillenbrand had a brief incident. Hillenbrand began trotting to 1B thinking he had been walked, only to be called back by a slow-moving ump. Beckett did not take kindly to being shown up. After Hillenbrand grounded into a DP that at-bat, Beckett began yelling obscenities at him as he walked off the field. They continued to exchange words in the media the following day.

Yesterday, the Jays lit up Fatso Wells.

Tonight is Matt Clement vs. Ted Lilly. What will happen is anybody's guess.

itsnotrequired
04-13-2006, 04:28 PM
.500 and below sucked. Let's be done with that **** for the season. Bring on the Black Jays!

The Jays are having a somewhat emotionally charged series with Boston this week.

On Tuesday, Josh Beckett and Shea Hillenbrand had a brief incident. Hillenbrand began trotting to 1B thinking he had been walked, only to be called back by a slow-moving ump. Beckett did not take kindly to being shown up. After Hillenbrand grounded into a DP that at-bat, Beckett began yelling obscenities at him as he walked off the field. They continued to exchange words in the media the following day.

Yesterday, the Jays lit up Fatso Wells.

Tonight is Matt Clement vs. Ted Lilly. What will happen is anybody's guess.

What is this, jaysinteractive.com?

:cool:

cbotnyse
04-13-2006, 04:29 PM
What do you mean "need to get?"

:sweep

:)

found it!......Im still a rookie:sweep :sweep

ShoelessJoeS
04-13-2006, 04:30 PM
The mlb.com headline says it all...."A Thome homer a day keeps the losses away"...how true.

:bandance:

Baby Fisk
04-13-2006, 04:31 PM
What is this, jaysinteractive.com?

:cool:
Sorry, just trying to offer some meagre insights. I'll go home and die now. :cool:

Jjav829
04-13-2006, 04:32 PM
The mlb.com headline says it all...."A Thome homer a day keeps the losses away"...how true.

:bandance:

I like it. And for the record, the Sox are 5-1 when Thome homers. :cool:

SouthSide_HitMen
04-13-2006, 04:34 PM
Wind: 15 mph, out to left.

White Sox bats will not do this all season - 13 R, 17 H. The good news is neither will Jon Garland. I think Jon will rebound and I hope people don't start panicking over two bad starts.

I love the sweep and we are headed home and hopefully will take 6 or 7 of the 9 games on the homestand.

A White Sox Winner!!!

Mickster
04-13-2006, 04:36 PM
I love the sweep and we are headed home and hopefully will take 6 or 7 of the 9 games on the homestand.

Just 6 or 7? :cool:

CLR01
04-13-2006, 04:36 PM
I think Jon will rebound and I hope people don't start panicking over two bad starts.

I recommend you stay away from today's game thread then.

Deebs14
04-13-2006, 04:37 PM
Konerko and Iguchi did exceptional today.

For real...I'm hoping the latter is today's (my) PTC. :smile:

C-Dawg
04-13-2006, 04:39 PM
I'm completely worn out after listening to that game! Time for a nap.

batmanZoSo
04-13-2006, 04:40 PM
We're set up pretty well for another. Vazquez and Buehrle both looked great last time out and no Halladay on Saturday.

veeter
04-13-2006, 04:42 PM
ANY win on the road is great. There were a lot of positives today. The road warriors continue to kick butt.

SportsPg
04-13-2006, 04:43 PM
I'm sorry, that was brutal. We should have won 13-3.

In my opinion our pitching staff is on cruise control living off of last year. They need to step up their intensity.

Oh, and Chris Shelton is looking like the next real thing - absolutely amazing how well he is hitting. Thome looks cold in comparison...

thomas35forever
04-13-2006, 04:44 PM
Both starters struggled today, but nice to see Thome and the rest of the offense get the job done.

SOX ADDICT '73
04-13-2006, 04:46 PM
Now, Tigers, feel free to kick some Indian ass.
Should be an interesting series - both teams scored nine runs in their last game...and LOST!

Unregistered
04-13-2006, 04:46 PM
Oh, and Chris Shelton is looking like the next real thing - absolutely amazing how well he is hitting. Thome looks cold in comparison...
Please. Talk to me in a month when Shelton it hitting .275 with one or two more HR.

It's a great start, but don't believe the early hype on that guy.

Vernam
04-13-2006, 04:47 PM
My least favorite win of the year. Scary stuff. But a win is a win and a sweep is a sweep. :D: :thumbsup: It was ugly, but I take GREAT comfort in knowing that's a game we probably would've lost last year. Garland probably won't pitch that bad (again) very often, but to see 13 runs put on the board to cover his ass was extremely gratifying.

I'm enjoying Thome's streak as much as anyone, but I hope he cools it before they mount a Congressional investigation!

Vernam

SBSoxFan
04-13-2006, 04:48 PM
2 of the hits off Thronton were cheap --- a broken-bat bloop and an infield hit. He threw 19 of 22 pitches for strikes, and was constantly 95+. I think Coop is working his magic. The Sox have a lefty and a righty reliever that can throw 95+. Me like!

batmanZoSo
04-13-2006, 04:49 PM
In my opinion our pitching staff is on cruise control living off of last year. They need to step up their intensity.


What are you talking about? Did you just sleep through the previous four games? Because you missed four pretty solid starts...

JohnBasedowYoda
04-13-2006, 04:49 PM
That White Sox victory left 1000 Detroit fans stunned.

BeviBall!
04-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Let's get JG a start at the Cell. That should wake him up.

SouthSide_HitMen
04-13-2006, 04:51 PM
I recommend you stay away from today's game thread then.

I never go there - I learned my lesson from the dark clouds last year. I don't enter postgame threads either unless there is a win. If I want pain I can grab pins and stick them in my eye.

Some people will call Jon Judy and some will call me

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~FG5M-OGM/hayley/v_image/pollyanna/01_17.jpg
Pollyanna

People in panic mode need to realize the season is long and there will be peaks and valleys and slumps and hot streaks and there is no need to overreact.

Idiots are already calling for Garland's head on the postgame radio show (McCarthy should replace him in the rotation per the calls). He has a three year contract. Barring injury he will be fine. He is not our best pitcher but only because our staff is loaded.

The White Sox sweep on the road. They're coming back home and I expect them to work on making the Tribe's lead disappear. :cool:

batmanZoSo
04-13-2006, 04:51 PM
That White Sox victory left 1000 Detroit fans stunned.

Monday was I think the first time I've ever seen a good crowd in the new park, and it just happened to be opening day.

IlliniSox4Life
04-13-2006, 04:53 PM
I'm sorry, that was brutal. We should have won 13-3.

In my opinion our pitching staff is on cruise control living off of last year. They need to step up their intensity.

Oh, and Chris Shelton is looking like the next real thing - absolutely amazing how well he is hitting. Thome looks cold in comparison...

I'm sure Buehrle with his 2.25 era or Contreras with his 1.93 era are really living off last year. Or Vazquez with his 2.57 era. Or Freddy having a good outing the other day. Damn those lazy bastards! Jon Garland is our pitching staff!

Ol' No. 2
04-13-2006, 04:54 PM
Please. Talk to me in a month when Shelton it hitting .275 with one or two more HR.

It's a great start, but don't believe the early hype on that guy.Did you miss last year? He hit .299 with 18 HR in 388 AB. This is no flash in the pan. The kid can hit.

Unregistered
04-13-2006, 04:58 PM
Did you miss last year? He hit .299 with 18 HR in 388 AB. This is no flash in the pan. The kid can hit.
Something tells me the 125 HR he's projected to hit this season won't pan out...

.290, 27HR - That's my generous prediction for Shelton this year.

lostletters
04-13-2006, 04:59 PM
What are you talking about? Did you just sleep through the previous four games? Because you missed four pretty solid starts...


My thoughts exactly. Buerhle is being the usual Buerhle, I think Garcia's first start was one of those begining of the year flukes, and JV and JC have looked really great. Garland is the only inconsistancy so far, and that will probably go away in time.

If you think the starters are resting on thier performance last year, you have missed the last four games. Hell maybe even the last week. JV and JC were robbed of wins because the bullpen blew saves. It is not like these guys are sleeping on the job. Garland is having a tough first couple of weeks, but it seems like everybody else is already in mid-season form.

JohnBasedowYoda
04-13-2006, 05:01 PM
Monday was I think the first time I've ever seen a good crowd in the new park, and it just happened to be opening day.

I went to a game there in aught-four and there was a good crowd on hand. Cliff Politte felt like walking in the winning run that night.

infohawk
04-13-2006, 05:02 PM
2 of the hits off Thronton were cheap --- a broken-bat bloop and an infield hit. He threw 19 of 22 pitches for strikes, and was constantly 95+. I think Coop is working his magic. The Sox have a lefty and a righty reliever that can throw 95+. Me like!
Let's not let Thornton's performance get lost among all the other story lines from this game. He didn't allow any runs while striking out two and walking NONE. He was consistently in the zone. I thought he'd do o.k., but I thought he'd make it interesting by throwing a lot of balls. Turned out it was interesting because he gave up three hits, but two of those were cheapies (the bloop single to right broke the bat).

Mickster
04-13-2006, 05:03 PM
I went to a game there in aught-four and there was a good crowd on hand. Cliff Politte felt like walking in the winning run that night.

I was at the same game. :(:

CLR01
04-13-2006, 05:04 PM
are already calling for Garland's head on the postgame radio show (McCarthy should replace him in the rotation per the calls).


Yeah, that about sums up the game thread.

Ol' No. 2
04-13-2006, 05:05 PM
Something tells me the 125 HR he's projected to hit this season won't pan out...

.290, 27HR - That's my generous prediction for Shelton this year.Send him down to AAA!!!:cool:

Unregistered
04-13-2006, 05:07 PM
Send him down to AAA!!!:cool:
Didn't say he sucked - just said he isn't the next Babe Ruth, which is what everyone's labeling him thanks to a fast start...

But yeah, send him to AAA - see if I care. :D:

thepaulbowski
04-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Send him down to AAA!!!:cool:

Isn't that what Detroit is, a AAA team. :cool:

Chicken Dinner
04-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Send him down to AAA!!!:cool:

Who, Pods???

TheOldRoman
04-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Didn't say he sucked - just said he isn't the next Babe Ruth, which is what everyone's labeling him thanks to a fast start...

But yeah, send him to AAA - see if I care. :D:
I agree. He is obviously a decent hitter, but the word "great" should not be thrown at him. His average will soon plummet, and I wouldn't be surprised if he is hitting under .300 when the year is done. I don't care how hot he is, you need to get him out. We aren't talking about Thome, Manny, A-Rod, or Ortiz on a tear, we are talking about Chris ****ing Shelton! There is no excuse for letting him hit like they did this series. Shelton has 7 homers already... I am going to make the bold prediction that he will hit 7 in the entire second half of the season. Someone keep track of this post.:cool:

WinOrDyeTrying
04-13-2006, 05:16 PM
Well at least we know that we can win a game on all sides of the plate. The wasnt there, but the offense sure as hell was. Also, I was at the game today, and I'll venture to say that almost 1-4 of the crowd was Sox fans.

chisoxmike
04-13-2006, 05:18 PM
What a joke of a game. But, the Sox kept fighting, I like seeing that. You could tell they really wanted to win this one.

:sweep :sweep :sweep

JohnBasedowYoda
04-13-2006, 05:20 PM
I was at the same game. :(:

cool beans! where'd you sit? I was by 3rd base, lower deck, about 20 rows back. nice seats.

DSpivack
04-13-2006, 05:21 PM
I agree. He is obviously a decent hitter, but the word "great" should not be thrown at him. His average will soon plummet, and I wouldn't be surprised if he is hitting under .300 when the year is done. I don't care how hot he is, you need to get him out. We aren't talking about Thome, Manny, A-Rod, or Ortiz on a tear, we are talking about Chris ****ing Shelton! There is no excuse for letting him hit like they did this series. Shelton has 7 homers already... I am going to make the bold prediction that he will hit 7 in the entire second half of the season. Someone keep track of this post.:cool:

He's swinging a very hot bat and got ahold of several pitches this series, and the Sox swept 'em. I really don't care what Shelton does as long as the Sox win.

Sargeant79
04-13-2006, 05:24 PM
Whoever said the Sox would have lost this game last year is right on the money. Our offense was not capable of putting up 13 runs for most of '05. These kind of games are where the offseason offensive upgrades are going to make a big difference.

And why can't Jim Thome seem to hit more than one home run per game?

TheOldRoman
04-13-2006, 05:27 PM
He's swinging a very hot bat and got ahold of several pitches this series, and the Sox swept 'em. I really don't care what Shelton does as long as the Sox win. I agree, and I am overreacting a little. However, it is a little insulting to have a average at best hitter like Shelton shred your pitching staff, because no matter how hot he is now, he won't get near 30 homers.

Only one stat matters - W.

viagracat
04-13-2006, 05:27 PM
The man today was Gooch. All he does is play baseball. He had the hit that broke the game open.

:iguchi:

DeadMoney
04-13-2006, 05:29 PM
I'm sure Buehrle with his 2.25 era or Contreras with his 1.93 era are really living off last year. Or Vazquez with his 2.57 era. Or Freddy having a good outing the other day. Damn those lazy bastards! Jon Garland is our pitching staff!

I'm really glad you layed into that post, because if you didn't, I would've.

I haven't seen anyone mention Cintron's good game (two 3-baggers) yet. It's really nice when you can have a guy come off the bench and put up performances like that. Everyone in the line-up had 2 hits and an RBI each except Pods and Anderson. That's production! And while I mention this, I'll also say that I'm not worried about Pods OR Anderson because Pods didn't have a spring training and Anderson had a good spring training, but seems to be suffering from rookie errors at the plate. At some point these two excuses (for both players) will be no longer acceptable, but until that point, it's not a big deal. As for Garland - I want to reserve judgement on him until he has to pitch WITHOUT a big lead. Garland has to really focus on the mound to be successful (as everyone does) and he's probably the last person (knowing his focus in the past years) I would want to be spotting a big lead early in the game. All in all, I liked what I saw from the offense today, and the McCarthy and Thorton appearences were just fine also. Let's go get those Jays this weekend!

Ol' No. 2
04-13-2006, 05:30 PM
I agree, and I am overreacting a little. However, it is a little insulting to have a average at best hitter like Shelton shred your pitching staff, because no matter how hot he is now, he won't get near 30 homers.

Only one stat matters - W.I think you're underestimating Shelton. Babe Ruth - no. But not average, either. He's going to be right around .300 with 25-30 HR every year.

Norberto7
04-13-2006, 05:31 PM
That White Sox victory left 1000 Detroit fans stunned.

Obviously bandwagoners. True Detroit fans are stunned at no loss.

JB98
04-13-2006, 05:56 PM
Idiots are already calling for Garland's head on the postgame radio show (McCarthy should replace him in the rotation per the calls).

OMG. Thanks for reminding me why I don't listen to the postgame radio show. McCarthy has come out of the bullpen and saved our butts two or three times already this year. Since our right-handed relief ranks are a little thin with Hermanson on the shelf, I think it is in the best interests of our team to keep Brandon right where he is.

Garland was terrible today, but we are in a position where we can allow him to work out his problems while remaining in the rotation. Currently, we have four of our five starters throwing well. Many teams would kill to have our problems.

SoLongFrank
04-13-2006, 06:26 PM
That's stupid & it's very simple why. Garland had an 8 run lead before meltdown. That's a clear sign it's a mental problem & not a mechanical or physical one. That's a clear sign a swift kick in the arse by Ozzie can fix that problem.

chisoxmike
04-13-2006, 11:03 PM
Comcast's Sports Nite just said "Todays not a great day for Chicago sports teams, with the Hawks losing, and Cubs losing and the Sox playing a team they think are much improved."

Also, during the highlights, William Jackson says "Alex Cintron making his first start of the season." :rolleyes:

Frater Perdurabo
04-13-2006, 11:18 PM
Garland's ERA has nowhere to go but down. Still, last year he was the "#5 starter" (quotes because these terms are over-emphasized) and although he pitched the fourth game this year, so far he's the "fifth best" starter in the rotation. While his last two starts certainly leave something to be desired, he's really doing the job of a "fifth starter," keeping it close through the first five innings (thank goodness for the offense!) and then handing it over to the bullpen.

McCarthy proved his worth to the Sox today by eating some innings, and Thornton showed flashes of brilliance in the ninth. Two of the three baserunners he allowed really were not his fault.

Bottom line is that the Sox leave Detroit with a sweep, and won a very high-scoring game without burning out the bullpen.

Ol' No. 2
04-13-2006, 11:20 PM
Garland's ERA has nowhere to go but down. Still, last year he was the "#5 starter" (quotes because these terms are over-emphasized) and although he pitched the fourth game this year, so far he's the "fifth best" starter in the rotation. While his last two starts certainly leave something to be desired, he's really doing the job of a "fifth starter," keeping it close through the first five innings (thank goodness for the offense!) and then handing it over to the bullpen.

McCarthy proved his worth to the Sox today by eating some innings, and Thornton showed flashes of brilliance in the ninth. Two of the three baserunners he allowed really were not his fault.

Bottom line is that the Sox leave Detroit with a sweep, and won a very high-scoring game without burning out the bullpen.I wouldn't say Garland was the one who kept it close through 5 innings. Without massive run support, those are both blowouts.

chisox77
04-14-2006, 12:29 AM
Some key points to this game:

Thome's power hitting
Iguchi's clutch hitting
Konerko is heating up
Dye is so consistent and overlooked
Crede is so solid
McCarthy is the best asset for Sox bullpen (so far)
Thornton looks like he could be something special
And the White Sox swept a team that was hot - before they played the defending world champions.

This four game winning streak could turn into a much bigger tear. With all due respect to the opposition, the Sox could explode for a major streak during the coming homestand.

:cool:

JoeClutch24
04-14-2006, 01:07 AM
Brandon McCarthy is the Pale Hose Version of Jon Papelbon. Gotta love the Sweep!:gulp: :sweep

IowaSox1971
04-14-2006, 04:38 AM
I'm kind of wondering how people can say we would not have won this game in 2005. We scored more runs in a 2005 playoff game against Boston than we did today. Also, the 2005 team scored 10 runs in one inning against Arizona, and that one-inning barrage by itself would have been enough to win today's game by one run. I think we also had a 15-run game against Colorado and a 14-run game against Kansas City as well as a 12-run game against the Cubs.

Granted, the 2005 team was far from an offensive powerhouse, but it was capable of scoring a lot of runs from time to time.

SBSoxFan
04-14-2006, 09:02 AM
Thornton looks like he could be something special

Let's take a moment to absorb the full impact of that statement .... compared to what was being said, oh 3 weeks ago, what Seattle thought they had, and what we thought the Sox were getting.


Mercy!