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It's Time
04-10-2006, 05:14 PM
Damn!!!:o:

It's Time
04-10-2006, 05:20 PM
Actual deal is 5 years, 65M. Sorry for the mess up and multiple threads, mods.:redface:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2404132

MUsoxfan
04-10-2006, 05:25 PM
The Cubs did a good thing in locking him up. He's a great player and probably would have gotten more money than that on the open-market

SouthSide_HitMen
04-10-2006, 05:41 PM
I hope the Cubs continue to win in April and Dusty is awarded a nice long contract before they fall into the crapper as is their tradition. :redneck

ondafarm
04-10-2006, 05:46 PM
The guy deserves it, he's a heck of a player, even if he plays for one of my least favorite teams. His father and uncle were class guys while laboring in Japan and I presume he is as well.

MarySwiss
04-10-2006, 05:55 PM
The guy deserves it, he's a heck of a player, even if he plays for one of my least favorite teams. His father and uncle were class guys while laboring in Japan and I presume he is as well.

He is a heck of a player. I just hope, for his sake, the Cubs don't ask him to try to be a starting pitcher. :redneck

Dan Mega
04-10-2006, 06:16 PM
I had the opportunity to meet him once. Nice guy, excellent player.

He'd look much better in a Sox uniform.

gbergman
04-10-2006, 06:18 PM
I had the opportunity to meet him once. Nice guy, excellent player.

He'd look much better in a Sox uniform.
this is true but thome would have to be gone for this to happen, and im very content with thome and konerko

Chisox003
04-10-2006, 06:34 PM
this is true but thome would have to be gone for this to happen, and im very content with thome and konerko
:?:

That's neither here nor there.

Fact is, Derek Lee is one of the best all around (if not THE best along with Pujols) first baseman in the game.

Defensively, offensively, on the bases, and from what it seems in the clubhouse - he's the whole package. This was a no brainer for Hendry.

MarySwiss
04-10-2006, 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by gbergman
this is true but thome would have to be gone for this to happen, and im very content with thome and konerko


:?:

That's neither here nor there.

Fact is, Derek Lee is one of the best all around (if not THE best along with Pujols) first baseman in the game.

Defensively, offensively, on the bases, and from what it seems in the clubhouse - he's the whole package. This was a no brainer for Hendry.

While I agree it was a no-brainer (Mary takes the high road here :rolleyes: ) for Hendry, IMO, gbergman's point is well taken. Derrek Lee < Konerko and Thome. Or as Hawk would put it, "Where would he play?"

gbergman
04-10-2006, 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by gbergman
this is true but thome would have to be gone for this to happen, and im very content with thome and konerko




While I agree it was a no-brainer (Mary takes the high road here :rolleyes: ) for Hendry, IMO, gbergman's point is well taken. Derrek Lee < Konerko and Thome. Or as Hawk would put it, "Where would he play?"

well someone got my drift. Lee is a great player but we would have to lose one of the two to make this happen if derek wanted to come to the sox and there is no point in doing that at this time. atleast not for 5 years

MarySwiss
04-10-2006, 06:50 PM
well someone got my drift. Lee is a great player but we would have to lose one of the two to make this happen if derek wanted to come to the sox and there is no point in doing that at this time. atleast not for 5 years

Agree completely. And I am pretty sure that--baseball being the sport it is--five years from now, this all will be academic.

viagracat
04-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Agreed that it was a no-brainer. Lee is a man. The Konerko of the North Side. Cubs are under a lot of pressure to show up this year in the wake of the :smile: SOX CHAMPIONSHIP :smile:

DSpivack
04-10-2006, 09:44 PM
I'm curious to see how Derrek Lee does this year. While I don't expect another batting title, he should easily be able to put up the same power #'s as last year; he had just as much power in Florida, but is now playing in a hitter's park, where Florida has a strong pitcher's park. He is a stud. Easily the best player on either side of Chicago.

itsnotrequired
04-10-2006, 10:23 PM
:?:

That's neither here nor there.

Fact is, Derek Lee is one of the best all around (if not THE best along with Pujols) first baseman in the game.

Defensively, offensively, on the bases, and from what it seems in the clubhouse - he's the whole package. This was a no brainer for Hendry.

Yep. A no-brainer. Good signing for the Cubs.

Hitmen77
04-10-2006, 10:38 PM
Does anyone think he might settle back to his career norm of about .275 instead of the .335 he hit last year?

Don't get me wrong, he's a great player even at his "career norms" and that's a great signing for the Cubs. I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he'll hit .335 and 45 HRs every year now when his numbers weren't quite so high before 2005.

Thome's Homey
04-10-2006, 10:42 PM
Does anyone think he might settle back to his career norm of about .275 instead of the .335 he hit last year?

Don't get me wrong, he's a great player even at his "career norms" and that's a great signing for the Cubs. I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he'll hit .335 and 45 HRs every year now when his numbers weren't quite so high before 2005.

I'm sure he'll go back to being .280/35/Gold Glove/Clubhouse leader or so.

Wish we had him. Yes, I would take him over Thome, and I do love me some Thome.

TheOldRoman
04-10-2006, 11:48 PM
I'm sure he'll go back to being .280/35/Gold Glove/Clubhouse leader or so.

Wish we had him. Yes, I would take him over Thome, and I do love me some Thome.
I agree with you on the first part. Lee will continue to be a great player, but his numbers will drop significantly this year. I will probably hit higher than .280, but I don't think he will come close to .340 or 50 homers again.

I wouldn't, however, take him over Thome. Konerko? Yes. Thome is the huge left handed bat we have needed for many years. We will see this year how important it is to have a left handed power hitter.

MUsoxfan
04-11-2006, 12:47 AM
Does anyone think he might settle back to his career norm of about .275 instead of the .335 he hit last year?

Don't get me wrong, he's a great player even at his "career norms" and that's a great signing for the Cubs. I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he'll hit .335 and 45 HRs every year now when his numbers weren't quite so high before 2005.

I think he's got a few more .310/40/115 years left in him. He's a notoriously slow starter and he's come out of the gate again very well. I'd love this as a Cubs fan. They did it the right way and got him now as opposed to near the end of the season

Jaffar
04-11-2006, 08:40 AM
I agree that he had a career year in 2005 but if he ends up between his career avg's with his 2005 totals it will end up being a great signing for the Cubs. I think they should expect .290/30/100 I personally think his power numbers will be close to the same especially with the addition of Pierre but his avg will come back to earth. He made a change last year and improved on his weak spot (inside pitches) and pitchers kept going there so expect pitchers to change the way they pitch to him this year.

Hangar18
04-11-2006, 08:42 AM
I think he's got a few more .310/40/115 years left in him. He's a notoriously slow starter and he's come out of the gate again very well. I'd love this as a Cubs fan. They did it the right way and got him now as opposed to near the end of the season


Imagine if the Marlins didnt have to just give him away because they cant afford him?

mccoydp
04-11-2006, 08:52 AM
Awesome player.

****ty team.

JorgeFabregas
04-11-2006, 09:18 AM
Does anyone think he might settle back to his career norm of about .275 instead of the .335 he hit last year?

Don't get me wrong, he's a great player even at his "career norms" and that's a great signing for the Cubs. I'm just curious as to why everyone thinks he'll hit .335 and 45 HRs every year now when his numbers weren't quite so high before 2005.
I think he'll have 2-3 more years along the lines of last year. He's in his prime.

PatK
04-11-2006, 09:51 AM
It's funny, when it comes to the Sox, people keep pointing out things like Garland having a "career year" and he'll fall back to the norm.

But with Lee, he's either going to get better or continue to hit .60 points over his career average.

Steelrod
04-11-2006, 09:56 AM
It's funny, when it comes to the Sox, people keep pointing out things like Garland having a "career year" and he'll fall back to the norm.

But with Lee, he's either going to get better or continue to hit .60 points over his career average.
Opinions are like ******. Everybody has them.

Hangar18
04-11-2006, 12:38 PM
I wish he wouldve soaked that team, and gotten 70 or 75 Million.
Derrek Lee knows hes got it good here, he can hit .250 the rest of the way,
and he'll be treated like GOLD here. Thats why he wants to stay here so badly. Media revered on a daily basis, why not? He knew this team has the money.

veeter
04-11-2006, 12:52 PM
I think D.Lee is benefitting from playing in the crappy NL. Paulie is every bit the hitter he is, without the benefit of the occasional infield hit. Paulie's glove is smooth also. Coming into last year, as someone pointed out, Lee was a career .275 hitter. Let's see how this plays out, but he is NOT easily the best player on both sides of town. No way.

palehozenychicty
04-11-2006, 01:40 PM
I agree with you on the first part. Lee will continue to be a great player, but his numbers will drop significantly this year. I will probably hit higher than .280, but I don't think he will come close to .340 or 50 homers again.

I wouldn't, however, take him over Thome. Konerko? Yes. Thome is the huge left handed bat we have needed for many years. We will see this year how important it is to have a left handed power hitter.

Thome and Vazquez's performances will be the difference in our repeat quest, without a doubt.

StockdaleForVeep
04-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Per today, Lee signed a 5 year 65 million dollar extension with the sCrUBS. I find it amusing how the media is playin this like the konerko story. "He has so much dedication to the team(after about 2 years) that he could take more money from other organizations but chose to stay here" *****


Side note: anyone notice these weird aerodynamic helmets the cubs are wearing now? They have little air holes on the top sides of the helmets and theyre angled. Maybe its the hip new cubs

Hangar18
04-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Per today, Lee signed a 5 year 65 million dollar extension with the sCrUBS. I find it amusing how the media is playin this like the konerko story. "He has so much dedication to the team(after about 2 years) that he could take more money from other organizations but chose to stay here" *****


Side note: anyone notice these weird aerodynamic helmets the cubs are wearing now? They have little air holes on the top sides of the helmets and theyre angled. Maybe its the hip new cubs


I think theres a huge thread already started about this ........

StockdaleForVeep
04-11-2006, 01:50 PM
I think theres a huge thread already started about this ........

Really? didnt notice, mods move if needed

StockdaleForVeep
04-11-2006, 01:54 PM
Well i see there is a thread already to this, my bad

to reiterate what i stated

Its amusing how the media is hypin this to try and portray the "cubs konerko" so to speak, in that "DLee could have taken many offers from other clubs but his years of dedication to the cubs organization(two btw) he decided to stay loyal to his team"

*****

ode to veeck
04-11-2006, 03:16 PM
Really? didnt notice, mods move if needed

prolly in what's the score where it belongs

Hangar18
04-11-2006, 04:19 PM
I think its right here

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=69214

that said, I wish he wouldve gotten $75 or $80 Million, because the flubbies wouldve paid him whatever he wanted

Frater Perdurabo
04-11-2006, 04:49 PM
I went ahead and compared the careers of Paul Konerko and Derrek Lee. They are very similar. Both are 30 (Lee is 6 moths older) and both began their careers in 1997 with NL West teams. Their career offensive numbers are somewhat similar, including equal numbers of home runs.

Konerko Lee
TPAs: 4511 4718
ABs: 4022 4102
AVG .279 .276
OBP .349 .363
SLG .488 .503
OPS .837 .866
HRs 211 211
Hits 1122 1133
2Bs 198 252
3Bs 5 22
RBI 696 632
BBs 404 530
IBB 31 51
HBP 48 50
Ks 612 999
SFs 36 34
SB 4 79
:redneckGIDPs 149 99

At the plate Lee has a slight edge, but Lee is much faster (who isn't faster than PK?) and plays better defense. As a result, with all due apologies to PK and his contributions to the World Series win, and this may be blasphemy to some who may call for me to be banned, but from a baseball perspective, I would much rather have Lee than Konerko as my first baseman.

SBSoxFan
04-11-2006, 04:50 PM
I can't understand why anyone would want to play for them any longer than absolutely necessary!

Steelrod
04-11-2006, 05:24 PM
The only thing is, the Cubs have a HORRIBLE record with long term signings. This one should work out for them, but any bettor will tell you to rely on past performances.