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bgpoppapaul
04-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting back into the swing of the season? I've taken these last two losses way too hard and it's been difficult getting out of the do or die mindset that got instilled since the end of August/beginning of September last year. I was furious after the game today and as I was stewing at work after hearing more runners left on base in prime scoring position, it dawned on me.....this isn't October and there's 159 games left to play. If I don't start calming myself down I'll have a heart attack before June. Anyone else having trouble getting into a regular season mindset and not hinging on every pitch like it could be the end of the season? It's been really hard for me.....:(:

JB98
04-05-2006, 08:42 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting back into the swing of the season? I've taken these last two losses way too hard and it's been difficult getting out of the do or die mindset that got instilled since the end of August/beginning of September last year. I was furious after the game today and as I was stewing at work after hearing more runners left on base in prime scoring position, it dawned on me.....this isn't October and there's 159 games left to play. If I don't start calming myself down I'll have a heart attack before June. Anyone else having trouble getting into a regular season mindset and not hinging on every pitch like it could be the end of the season? It's been really hard for me.....:(:

Go over and read the postgame thread. Then, you will see that you are not the only person having difficulty with today's loss.

Lip Man 1
04-05-2006, 08:53 PM
That's because Sox fans know good baseball when they see it and understand the importance of giving away games. Today they saw the latter and not the former.

Lip

VivaOzzie
04-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting back into the swing of the season? I've taken these last two losses way too hard and it's been difficult getting out of the do or die mindset that got instilled since the end of August/beginning of September last year. I was furious after the game today and as I was stewing at work after hearing more runners left on base in prime scoring position, it dawned on me.....this isn't October and there's 159 games left to play. If I don't start calming myself down I'll have a heart attack before June. Anyone else having trouble getting into a regular season mindset and not hinging on every pitch like it could be the end of the season? It's been really hard for me.....:(:

Wow...now I realize why I was so PISSED about today's loss! Glad you brought it to my attention. Yeah, it's gonna be tough to get back to the mindset that we can afford to lose some games (though I think today's would be tough to swallow either way).

chidonez
04-05-2006, 10:50 PM
It's April. New season, new team (not really). It's going to be long season. Relax. Take a deep breath. Enjoy it. We'll be right in there at the end of the season. But hey, we play in a tough division, which is part of the fun.

ShoelessJoeS
04-05-2006, 10:56 PM
Is anyone else having trouble getting back into the swing of the season? I've taken these last two losses way too hard and it's been difficult getting out of the do or die mindset that got instilled since the end of August/beginning of September last year. I was furious after the game today and as I was stewing at work after hearing more runners left on base in prime scoring position, it dawned on me.....this isn't October and there's 159 games left to play. If I don't start calming myself down I'll have a heart attack before June. Anyone else having trouble getting into a regular season mindset and not hinging on every pitch like it could be the end of the season? It's been really hard for me.....:(:
You have the right to be furious about this subject and our lack of clutch hitting today, however, the key is to realize that there ARE 159 games left for things to change back to true White Sox Baseball. If this sort of problem persists and we are constantly leaving 14 MOB per game, then it would be time to worry. Just realize that Paulie is not going to hit .077 all season and he will not continue to blow key at-bats in game-deciding situations.

oeo
04-05-2006, 10:59 PM
That's because Sox fans know good baseball when they see it and understand the importance of giving away games. Today they saw the latter and not the former.

Lip

If we get a couple of nine game winning streaks this year, will that make you feel better about this one game?

It's not like we didn't give any games away last year, every team does it.

Iwritecode
04-06-2006, 01:05 AM
Is anyone else having trouble getting back into the swing of the season? I've taken these last two losses way too hard and it's been difficult getting out of the do or die mindset that got instilled since the end of August/beginning of September last year. I was furious after the game today and as I was stewing at work after hearing more runners left on base in prime scoring position, it dawned on me.....this isn't October and there's 159 games left to play. If I don't start calming myself down I'll have a heart attack before June. Anyone else having trouble getting into a regular season mindset and not hinging on every pitch like it could be the end of the season? It's been really hard for me.....:(:

I don't know if it's the playoff mindset or if it's the fact that these were the exact types of games they were winning all the time last year. I guess I just got used to it.

Plus it sucks not being in first place... :(:

SoxFan76
04-06-2006, 02:23 AM
Honestly, I'm taking losses easier this year than I ever have.

I think it's because I know it's a long season and no matter what, the Sox are a great team that most likely will make the playoffs. I learned last year that losses aren't the end of the world.

Madvora
04-06-2006, 08:53 AM
Honestly, I'm taking losses easier this year than I ever have.

I think it's because I know it's a long season and no matter what, the Sox are a great team that most likely will make the playoffs. I learned last year that losses aren't the end of the world.
I'm with you on that. Remeber Cleveland of last year. They were in 3rd place for a while and still ended up there at the end. Nothing to worry about. Losses still upset me, but I know this team is great and have complete faith they will be there in the end.

Deuce
04-06-2006, 08:55 AM
That's because Sox fans know good baseball when they see it and understand the importance of giving away games. Today they saw the latter and not the former.POTW... without a doubt.

oeo
04-06-2006, 09:30 AM
I'm with you on that. Remeber Cleveland of last year. They were in 3rd place for a while and still ended up there at the end. Nothing to worry about. Losses still upset me, but I know this team is great and have complete faith they will be there in the end.
As am I...we all know that if this team gets hot, there won't be much that can stop them. I guess we just have to wait for all the pieces to fall into place, with Dye out for a little while and slow starts from most of the team.

Besides, the Royals are the answer to any team's woes. Lets go KC...

And just because we didn't get off to a hot start like last year, doesn't mean a thing. We had the best start in the history of the franchise, you shouldn't have been banking on repeating that. We will be fine!

HomeFish
04-06-2006, 09:46 AM
Wait. Are you suggesting that the principles of needing to beat your opponents and not giving away games are not part of how baseball is played in the regular season?

ws05champs
04-06-2006, 10:12 AM
I was a bit more upset than I felt I should be with this loss until I came to this mind set:

The Sox are going to loose 50-60 games this year and we have already got 2 of those out of the way. That means less to deal with at the end of the season. Plus Ozzie and the team have already made some mistakes they will learn from for the rest of the season.

Jerko
04-06-2006, 10:20 AM
I look at it this way. The banner ceremony is over, the ring and trophy ceremonies are over, so let's just get down to baseball now and kick some ass. Yes I would love to be 3-0 right now but the Sox will get many more shots to take Cleveland out.

Lip Man 1
04-06-2006, 01:51 PM
John Kass from the Tribune has a column today on this exact same question / issue.

It doesn't matter what the fans think about this (and I say that with respect) what does matter is how the players react / think about this new season. There is a fine line here...it's called 'championship hangover.'

History shows a number of sports teams that had it effect them so badly they never even got back to the post season the following year...history also shows teams like the 2005 Boston Red Sox that put it behind them, went out and won 94 games or so and made the playoffs again.

I sincerely hope the White Sox are part of the latter and not the former.

Lip

Iwritecode
04-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Remeber Cleveland of last year. They were in 3rd place for a while and still ended up there at the end.

I believe the other team in the 2005 World Series started the season 15-30. :o:

bgpoppapaul
04-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Wait. Are you suggesting that the principles of needing to beat your opponents and not giving away games are not part of how baseball is played in the regular season?

not at all. of course, as i've been following the sox for all of my 33 years rabidly, i've never "enjoyed" watching the sox lose. however, i've left the last few games, exponentially more pissed off than i've ever been at an april game not involving billy koch. i'm just saying that i honestly feel that my ability to watch a game and not be in a panic mode has been effected greatly by what went down the last two months. it's a long season and this is emotion that used to be reserved for games down the stretch. i just felt the need to reprogram myself to take things more in stride, or else it's gonna be a really long season. that being said, i'm still furious over blowing this last one......these are the ones that come back to haunt you in the long run.

cheeses_h_rice
04-06-2006, 06:24 PM
The season is already over, as far as I'm concerned, now that the Sox can't go wire to wire again.

chisoxfanatic
04-06-2006, 09:33 PM
I believe the other team in the 2005 World Series started the season 15-30. :o:

Right, BUT, they lost to us in the World Series! :D:

I think the Sox have just been caught up in the hoop-lah that happened over the course of this opening series (which is natural considering what this team has done to the face of Chicago baseball--well, for us southsiders, nonetheless). I think they will be ready to play this coming series without that extra "stuff" to even have a chance of distracting them. Their minds WILL be in the game.

Dadawg_77
04-07-2006, 10:33 AM
John Kass from the Tribune has a column today on this exact same question / issue.

It doesn't matter what the fans think about this (and I say that with respect) what does matter is how the players react / think about this new season. There is a fine line here...it's called 'championship hangover.'

History shows a number of sports teams that had it effect them so badly they never even got back to the post season the following year...history also shows teams like the 2005 Boston Red Sox that put it behind them, went out and won 94 games or so and made the playoffs again.

I sincerely hope the White Sox are part of the latter and not the former.

Lip

That is a lame reason. It isn't a championship hangover but team staying with the status quo trying to catch magic in a bottle twice. The 2001 Bears were lucky to have the record they did, but since they made the playoffs the Bears front office did nothing to improve the team and they regressed to the mean in 2002.

The Sox have taken steps to improve the team this off season instead of staying with the status quo. However the bullpen had fantastic year last year which greatly helped the Sox in one run games. It will be difficult for the pen to maintain that level of production this year. Thus Sox should have a worse record in one and two run games this year. One run record was the key to the Sox winning 99 games last year. Now the question is will differences between Thome and Crazy Carl, Vazquez and El Duque and Anderson and Rowand make up for the wins lost by a regressing bullpen.

viagracat
04-07-2006, 10:54 AM
The Sox are 1-2 now. If they're 10-20 a month from now I'll start to worry. But that won't happen. I hope and believe that now the opening series is over, the players have gotten 2005 and all the attendant distractions out of their systems. They're going to KC as a division opponent, not as the world champs; there will be no ceremony honoring them. When the Sox just play ball, they're normally pretty good. Bring it on.:D:

JayBeast
04-07-2006, 11:54 AM
I hope next series not every replay is from last years season, it sorta plays against Ozzie's "We are not champs anymore in 2006" mindset.
Also, I hope the world champs patch was just for opening day, I thought that was a bit overkill on the uniform.
Let's save up those patches for us fans who are allowed to live in the past, I want the players to remain hungry all season.

Iwritecode
04-07-2006, 12:08 PM
Right, BUT, they lost to us in the World Series! :D:

Yea, they suck. :D:

You just know that they'll be used as a measuring stick for every single team that starts out the season slow though.

I'm just waiting for somebody from some team to say "Yea we might be 5-15 right now but the 2005 Astros started 15-30 and they went to the World Series!"

CaptainBallz
04-07-2006, 12:27 PM
It'll definitely do everybody a whole lotta good to take a pill at this stage of the season. Everybody needs to remember that last season was VERY long with plenty of ups and downs. The World Championship White Sox, believe it or not, LOST games last year. Sometimes two in a row. Really, who cares about going wire to wire.

I'm going to follow every game, of course, but I'm not tapping my emotional reserves until about a month in. We have yet see what this team can really do as a team. Even if they go 95-67 ( a very good record)... they have to lose 65 more times. Save your strength...

NardiWasHere
04-07-2006, 01:12 PM
The 162 game schedule is my best/worst enemy...

I see a disapointing Bears game, I know that wins/losses mean more and I'll have to wait a whole week to see them redeem themselves.

Baseball games are so frequent, I can usually handle being pissed off/depressed in between games

The fact that its a long season, doesn't comfort me insofar that I can excuse bad play, but it comforts me that 1/162 is much better than 1/16.

TDog
04-07-2006, 01:16 PM
It'll definitely do everybody a whole lotta good to take a pill at this stage of the season. Everybody needs to remember that last season was VERY long with plenty of ups and downs. The World Championship White Sox, believe it or not, LOST games last year. Sometimes two in a row. Really, who cares about going wire to wire.

I'm going to follow every game, of course, but I'm not tapping my emotional reserves until about a month in. We have yet see what this team can really do as a team. Even if they go 95-67 ( a very good record)... they have to lose 65 more times. Save your strength...

Well put. Someone in chat this week complained that Garcia was supposed to be a "big game pitcher." Tuesday wasn't a big game. Every game is important, of course, but this season will go on for six months, with the Sox playing at least five times a week. I don't want to see the Sox fall desperately behind like they did in 2001 when the "It's Time" billboards made it that much worse on the drive home from losses. But I'm not going to take every loss like it's the end of the world. I'm confident that this team is built for a long season.

Last year, and before that, there were posters around here who wrote that if the Sox won the World Series, they wouldn't care if they followed with losing seasons, in the mode of the Marlins or Diamondbacks. I wrote then that I didn't believe them.

Jurr
04-07-2006, 01:24 PM
This offseason was just so chaotic. We had players shipped off for the WBC, we had new guys coming onto the team that hadn't even seen their teammates in spring training (Vazquez and Cintron were at the WBC), and the players just haven't had a chance to get into a groove.

The Sox came out wanting to set the tone, and did with the opener. Cleveland came right back and took advantage of Freddy's bad game. Oops.
The rubber match was one of those the Sox would've liked to win, but didn't. It was a close game, and the Sox put up a good fight. The last game just shows you that the team isn't totally jelled, locked in, focused, etc. Now that the hoopla is over, it's time to get into the grind, and the Sox should respond with some strong outings vs. KC.

As far as I'm concerned, if the Sox didn't get swept during all of this extracurricular stuff going on, I was cool with it.

Now, if they go and drop 2 of 3 to KC, I'll be pissed. Go get 'em, Sox!!

By the way, it's great to actually be talking about baseball instead of "what did you do the moment when ________."

Rooney4Prez56
04-07-2006, 01:29 PM
Maybe I was hoping for a 162-0 season.