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veeter
03-21-2006, 07:56 AM
Two weeks ago our left handed situation was pretty bleak. NOW, with Logan, Lopez, the addition of Thornton and a little tease by Lumsden, the Sox look pretty good for now...and later. But I would also like to see Nik Lubisich. Now, I'm only going by stats, but with his 9-4 record at Birmingham last year, Nik's lifetime minor league record is 31-18, with a fine ERA around 3.30. Has anyone ever seen him throw? Does he have a chance? He's about to turn 27. (Oh yeah, I forgot about Liotta, too.)

Randar68
03-21-2006, 11:49 AM
Two weeks ago our left handed situation was pretty bleak. NOW, with Logan, Lopez, the addition of Thornton and a little tease by Lumsden, the Sox look pretty good for now...and later. But I would also like to see Nik Lubisich. Now, I'm only going by stats, but with his 9-4 record at Birmingham last year, Nik's lifetime minor league record is 31-18, with a fine ERA around 3.30. Has anyone ever seen him throw? Does he have a chance? He's about to turn 27. (Oh yeah, I forgot about Liotta, too.)

I think with Cotts as more of a set-up man (and will be needed that way if Hermy can't get healthy), you'll see them give the spot to Boone Logan, who I really can't believe has pitched this well, but his new arm angle is hard on lefties and he just throws strikes. Not all that excited about Lopwez or Thornton (who needs to take to some new coaching to harness an offspeed pitch).

I'm really psyched about Lumsden. Most talented lefty we've had in a long, long time. Great stuff. However, they want him as a starter, not a reliever, and he's going to be in Birmingham, IMO, to start the season in the rotation.

He is a candidate to get called up later in the season if he stays healthy and they need another lefty arm.

He could be a fantastic starter with electric stuff, but it's also thought he could end up as a top-flight lefty closer as well. Lefty starters are generally more valuable, especially if you already have a good closer, so it'll be an interesting situation to watch develop.

California Sox
03-21-2006, 12:53 PM
I saw Logan pitch against the Cubs and I came away fairly impressed. He was much better than I expected. I'd say when you factor in movement his fastball was above average for a lefty and I saw a good slider. Plus, like you say, he threw a lot of strikes. Maybe a poor man's Scott Radinsky?

Randar68
03-21-2006, 01:09 PM
I saw Logan pitch against the Cubs and I came away fairly impressed. He was much better than I expected. I'd say when you factor in movement his fastball was above average for a lefty and I saw a good slider. Plus, like you say, he threw a lot of strikes. Maybe a poor man's Scott Radinsky?

I'm worried that he doesn't have plus stuff really anywhere in his arsenal, so when players see him a couple times, the report on him get's out, that he'll be done. I haven't seen enough of him this spring to really find a flaw or weakness that can be exploited yet, but the more teams see him, they'll find something.

KRS1
03-21-2006, 01:54 PM
I'm worried that he doesn't have plus stuff really anywhere in his arsenal, so when players see him a couple times, the report on him get's out, that he'll be done. I haven't seen enough of him this spring to really find a flaw or weakness that can be exploited yet, but the more teams see him, they'll find something.

Not to start an argument, but Mark Buehrle's stuff doesn't exactly grade out as plus stuff and look at how he's done. Not to mention Boone has a 90-93mph fastball, which coming out of that "slingshot, short-arm, 3/4-sidearm release" :D: can be quite devistating. He has hit all his spots very well thus far, and his fastball(a heavy sinking cutter) and sliders(one a 75-78 11-5 breaker, the other a low to mid-80's 9-3)all have plus movement, so I would say his stuff does look "plus" for a lefty. I'm not trying to overhype him in any way, but looking at his command and the way he attacks both rightys and lefties with different pitches, I see a smart and experienced pitcher despite his age. With AJ calling the shots behind home, and Boone's ability to be very deceptive I see no reason why hitters will figure him out and start bombing him any time soon.

maurice
03-21-2006, 02:02 PM
I would also like to see Nik Lubisich. . . . Has anyone ever seen him throw?

I have. He's a 6'1 junkballer. FB in the 80s.

ChiSoxRowand
03-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Two weeks ago our left handed situation was pretty bleak. NOW, with Logan, Lopez, the addition of Thornton and a little tease by Lumsden, the Sox look pretty good for now...and later. But I would also like to see Nik Lubisich. Now, I'm only going by stats, but with his 9-4 record at Birmingham last year, Nik's lifetime minor league record is 31-18, with a fine ERA around 3.30. Has anyone ever seen him throw? Does he have a chance? He's about to turn 27. (Oh yeah, I forgot about Liotta, too.)

Phil Rogers mentioned in the newest BA that the Sox could bring up Liotta late in the year and have him pitch in the pen like they did with Buehrle.

Randar68
03-22-2006, 11:18 AM
Phil Rogers mentioned in the newest BA that the Sox could bring up Liotta late in the year and have him pitch in the pen like they did with Buehrle.

If Lumsden stays healthy he seems like a better candidate given his fastball/curve combo, would be much better as a lefty-specialist out of them pen than Liotta would, especially if he commands that cutter. Liotta could be a good option as a middle relief guy.

rdivaldi
03-23-2006, 07:47 PM
Speaking of lefties, I'd really like to see Ryan Rodriguez get a couple of innings in major league camp. Anyone seen him this spring?