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Hokiesox
03-14-2006, 12:59 PM
http://www.nbc4.com/news/7972676/detail.html#

There it is. Looks in-place for the city architecture, out of place for the rest of baseball. According to the mayor, that's really what they've been aiming for anyway.

batmanZoSo
03-14-2006, 01:18 PM
Looks similar to San Diego or Cincinnati with the overall roundness and the way the upper deck is broken up. Designers are really getting away from the "quirky angles" thing seen in early 90s retro parks. Which is nice, but a few of them--particularly this one--seem to have a montonous donut type look. This doesn't compare to the new Cardinals ballpark in my opinion.

mjharrison72
03-14-2006, 01:27 PM
Can't wait to check it out in person when I go back... should be ready for the 2008 season, from what I read.

Rooney4Prez56
03-14-2006, 01:28 PM
It's not bad. It's not good either.

Hangar18
03-14-2006, 01:28 PM
That place looks like The Cell !!!! bahahahahahaaa

Baby Fisk
03-14-2006, 01:29 PM
At first glance it looked like Shea, the way the bowl wraps around from one foul line to the other. Not enough detail showing what the view from home to the outfield will look like. Looks like the river will be visible from some of he upper deck seats, which is a nice touch, but nothing else really jumps out. I hope they build a nice park, but these drawings don't do it much justice.

miker
03-14-2006, 01:29 PM
Is it to early to start campaigning for green seats?

Hangar18
03-14-2006, 01:33 PM
Can't wait to check it out in person when I go back... should be ready for the 2008 season, from what I read.


How much do you wanna bet that That place will be built before we finally get all our seats Green

Max Power
03-14-2006, 01:35 PM
I was thinking it looks like the Phillies new place. Retro stadiums are the new cookie cutters. I'm catching a game at historic RFK stadium next month. I hear that old stadiums with terrible sighlines are the best!!!

soxfan13
03-14-2006, 02:07 PM
That place looks like The Cell !!!! bahahahahahaaa

I actually thought the same thing at first glance I wonder if after 10 or so years the washington media wil be clamoring for them to chop of 15 rows of that third deck LOL

miker
03-14-2006, 02:13 PM
I actually thought the same thing at first glance I wonder if after 10 or so years the washington media wil be clamoring for them to chop of 15 rows of that third deck LOL
I was going to say that the Nats are immune from the daily media attack as they are the only team in their city, but then I remembered they are in the Orioles back yard and remember that the O's play in that "historic" ball park...

PKalltheway
03-14-2006, 05:47 PM
Even though the stadium looks so so, I'm glad to finally see them get the ball rolling on this project.:smile:

DC Sox Fan
03-14-2006, 07:25 PM
A couple thoughts:

First, the mention of the blue seats (as opposed to green). It's been funny watching the fans argue back and forth on this one- seems the exact opposite of everyone's thoughts on the Cell. Most fans wanted something very different from the recent wave of retro-parks and wanted dark blue seats to complement the team's colors.

You'll notice in some drawings what look like large parking garages past the outfield. In actuality, those will be mixed-use buildings that feature below-ground parking.

Look at how high up the press box is :o: Many RFK fans have been upset with the lower-deck obstructed view due to the renovated/expanded press box. Perhaps this was made to appease them. Also don't get the 4-tiers of seats???

You'll notice the round building on the outfield concourse. That is a restaurant that will be opened year-round, as will many of the shops in the buildings that surround the park.

Mixed reasons were given for the difference in levels between the first baseline and right-field stands. I like the staggered look and would like to think of it as an homage to Griffith Stadium, home to the old Nationals/Senators:
http://www.radioarchives.org/pictures/Washington%20Senators%202.jpg

While the park looks somewhat unremarkable at first glance, I think it blends in with the architecture/feel of DC and will provide a much-needed resurgence to a downtrodden neighborhood, and will afford some breathtaking views as well:
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2708.jpg
Capitol dome visible from 1B/RF stands
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2726.jpg
Looking North along S. Capitol street towards the dome (3B line)
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2731.jpg
View from Left/Center field councourse. Many fans will be arriving at this plaza from the Metro's Navy Yard stop, to the left of this picture. You can see the restaurant to the left.

What I also like is the park being surrounded by mix-use buildings that will provide year/round shopping, dining, residential and parking. Take a look at this design and see if you notice the similarites to a proposed new home for the greatest team ever:
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/graphics/stadium/SW_Aerial.jpg
vs:
http://www.thursdayarchitects.com/images/13-AF_Model-1.JPG

Another thing Nats' fans are excited about is HOK/Clark's promise to copy RFK Stadium's notorious "bouncing stands" that are a result of the movable Baseball/Football configuration. These stands were glorified in the Redskins' heyday and have gained much acclaim. If you ever watch a DC game in TV or go to RFK, look for the lower deck/3B side stands and watch them bounce when the fans get fired up.

DC Sox Fan
03-14-2006, 08:22 PM
Additionally, many are commenting on how well the design complements the new(er) Verizon (nee MCI) center (1998)
http://www.kestan.com/dcstock/buildingsprivate/2404%20MCI%20Center.jpg
http://www.world-guides.com/images/washington/washington_dc_mci_center.jpg

As well as the new Convention Center (I believe '03?)
http://pressimages.dcconvention.com/thumbnails/Buidling_Day_tn.jpghttp://pressimages.dcconvention.com/thumbnails/Bldg2_tn.jpghttp://pressimages.dcconvention.com/thumbnails/Front_9thStreet_tn.jpg
Like Hokie said... fits in great here, but not with the rest of baseball. Of course I'll reserve final judgement until after it's complete, but I'd say I give it a thumbs-slightly-up for now...

Brian26
03-14-2006, 10:09 PM
as an homage to Griffith Stadium, home to the old Nationals/Senators:
http://www.radioarchives.org/pictures/Washington%20Senators%202.jpg

If they really wanted to pay homage to Griffith Stadium, they would make the left field foul pole 450' from the plate and build a single-family house in centerfield with a giant wall around it. :D:

palehozenychicty
03-15-2006, 10:21 AM
Now they just have to manipulate Soriano to play the outfield and things look to a division winning season.

Hangar18
03-15-2006, 10:38 AM
You'll notice the round building on the outfield concourse. That is a restaurant that will be opened year-round, as will many of the shops in the buildings that surround the park.




While the park looks somewhat unremarkable at first glance, I think it blends in with the architecture/feel of DC and will provide a much-needed resurgence to a downtrodden neighborhood, and will afford some breathtaking views as well:
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2708.jpg
Capitol dome visible from 1B/RF stands
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2726.jpg
Looking North along S. Capitol street towards the dome (3B line)
http://www.misschatter.com/janf/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Img_2731.jpg
View from Left/Center field councourse. Many fans will be arriving at this plaza from the Metro's Navy Yard stop, to the left of this picture. You can see the restaurant to the left.

What I also like is the park being surrounded by mix-use buildings that will provide year/round shopping, dining, residential and parking. Take a look at this design and see if you notice the similarites to a proposed new home for the greatest team ever:
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/graphics/stadium/SW_Aerial.jpg





Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I remember telling Brooks to have the SOX remove those horrible billboards on the OF Concourse (SOX billboards bigger than those on I-94) and replace them with actual buildings that can house a restaurant/bar and be open year-round and can access that park from there too ............... Nobody listened.

Seems HOK told the SOX to put mixed use buildings around the stadium, but nobody listened.

VenturaSoxFan23
03-15-2006, 12:56 PM
Looks like a horrid combo of the Cell & Lambeau Field after they added the atrium.

DeadMoney
03-15-2006, 02:46 PM
Looks like a horrid combo of the Cell & Lambeau Field after they added the atrium.

And a little like renovated Soldier Field when comparing the all glass facade behind home plate (just below the 'NATIONALS' text).

TheOldRoman
03-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I remember telling Brooks to have the SOX remove those horrible billboards on the OF Concourse (SOX billboards bigger than those on I-94) and replace them with actual buildings that can house a restaurant/bar and be open year-round and can access that park from there too ............... Nobody listened.

Seems HOK told the SOX to put mixed use buildings around the stadium, but nobody listened.
Well, I don't know about the outfield, but mixed-use buildings will be going up around the Cell in the next few years. Brooks has already acknowledged this.
I would like to get rid of the billboards, but they are part of the design of the park. Two of the "billboard" slots are taken by scoreboards. If they removed the three remaining billboards, it wouldn't look right. Also, the metalwork around the billboards is pretty nice, and it goes with the back of the upperdeck roof.