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downstairs
03-06-2006, 10:32 AM
I know ST records are meaningless, and probably aren't even recorded anywhere after a number of years... but just for kicks... does anyone know what the worst/best ST records have been in history?

MUsoxfan
03-06-2006, 10:38 AM
I know ST records are meaningless, and probably aren't even recorded anywhere after a number of years... but just for kicks... does anyone know what the worst/best ST records have been in history?

ST records are as important as my intramural 16" softball league records from college

Clembasbal
03-06-2006, 11:24 AM
ST records are as important as my intramural 16" softball league records from college

Hey, I am proud of my intramural 16" softball team records, we only lost 4 games in 4 years...3 were all for the championship, and the other was in the playoffs...just couldn't close the deal!:mad:

Anyway, Spring Training records mean nothing. It is more of a look at minor leaguers for Ozzie and the other coaches who will not see them again until next spring training. So if they need a OF to call up during the season, they recall their look at them during ST.

downstairs
03-06-2006, 11:27 AM
ST records are as important as my intramural 16" softball league records from college

I know, that's why I said that.

I'm just curious though...

Baby Fisk
03-06-2006, 11:28 AM
I remember one ST about 15 years ago, the Giants went on a huge winning tear and everyone was saying "Wow, this could be the Giants' year, they look unstoppable!" Then April rolled around and they promptly tanked.

Chicken Dinner
03-06-2006, 11:29 AM
Although spring training games do mean absolutely nothing, from a fans perspective, you always want your team to win. Everyone is looking at their prospects, and you can only hope that yours are better than theirs.

downstairs
03-06-2006, 11:37 AM
Although spring training games do mean absolutely nothing, from a fans perspective, you always want your team to win. Everyone is looking at their prospects, and you can only hope that yours are better than theirs.

Yeah, that's what I've always thought.

OF COURSE all MLB records are 0-0 on opening day. But there is something to be said for all of your prospects making a major tear over 30-some games in spring against other prospects and major leaguers...

itsnotrequired
03-06-2006, 11:41 AM
The Marlins were 26-5 in 1997. The 1998 Expos were 8-23.

I don't know if those are the best/worst but was all I could find...

Max Power
03-06-2006, 01:15 PM
The Marlins were 26-5 in 1997. The 1998 Expos were 8-23.

I don't know if those are the best/worst but was all I could find...

Worked out pretty well for the Marlins that year. I think the Royals had a pretty good ST in 2003 when they held first place at the All-Star break. Seems like when teams that are expected to do well (Yankees most years) tank in ST it has little impact on their regular season, but a team that isn't expected to do anything has a great ST is carries over a bit.

I want Mags back
03-06-2006, 03:00 PM
i know last years was pretty crappy as well

TDog
03-06-2006, 03:44 PM
When I was a kid, I paid attention to spring training records and listened the games. Johnny Matias hitting .500 in 1970 got me excited.

Now I ignore them.

gbergman
03-06-2006, 03:52 PM
Mods i believe this is also in the parking lot thread

EndemicSox
03-06-2006, 07:09 PM
I'm sorry, if the Sox go 8-25, or something ridiculous like that, there is a problem.

MarySwiss
03-06-2006, 07:15 PM
I'm sorry, if the Sox go 8-25, or something ridiculous like that, there is a problem.

No. There isn't. If they lose the rest of their games, or if they win the rest of their games, their record at the start of the regular season will be 0-0---just like everyone else's.

oeo
03-06-2006, 09:38 PM
I remember one ST about 15 years ago, the Giants went on a huge winning tear and everyone was saying "Wow, this could be the Giants' year, they look unstoppable!" Then April rolled around and they promptly tanked.
And then there was ST about a year ago, or so, those White Sox didn't look very good, went to a measley 14-18. Then April rolled around and they promptly went into a tear. And it was the White Sox year! :D:

Johnny Mostil
03-06-2006, 09:49 PM
I did a Yahoo search on "spring training records" and http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/bp/1518849.html was the first hit I found. It had some interesting tidbits for 1996 through 2002.

FedEx227
03-06-2006, 10:28 PM
Oh my god, I can't believe we have people freaking out about Spring Training...

when Bentz and Reyonso are in our starting rotation then I'd freak out, until then ITS SPRING TRAINING STOP FREAKING OUT.

Lip Man 1
03-06-2006, 10:37 PM
According to the 2005 White Sox media guide, here are the Sox spring records dating back to 1960:

1960: 16-15, 1961: 12-14, 1962: 17-11, 1963: 16-12, 1964: 12-16, 1965: 17-13, 1966: 21-7, 1967: 16-10, 1968: 13-14, 1969: 14-12, 1970: 11-13-1, 1971: 19-10, 1972: 9-15, 1973: 15-11, 1974: 11-16, 1975: 14-20, 1976: 9-9-1, 1977: 11-20, 1978: 14-14, 1979: 15-13, 1980: 11-12, 1981: 17-10, 1982: 13-10-1, 1983: 20-7, 1984:19-10, 1985: 15-15, 1986: 13-18, 1987: 15-15, 1988: 13-18, 1989: 15-23, 1990: 6-9, 1991: 15-14, 1992: 13-18-2, 1993: 20-13, 1994: 17-16, 1995: 21-20, 1996: 20-11, 1997: 12-19-1, 1998: 18-12, 1999: 17-16, 2000: 18-14-2, 2001: 14-16-1, 2002: 11-21-1, 2003; 17-12-2, 2004: 15-13-1.

The White Sox had winning records in both the regular season and the exhibition season in the following years: 1960, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1996, 2000, 2003 and 2004.

The White Sox had a winning record in the regular season but a losing one in the exhibition season in the following years: 1961, 1964, 1972, 1977, 1990, 1992, 2001 and 2005.

Lip