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WhiteSoxFan84
02-26-2006, 03:39 AM
JUST 5 WEEKS AWAY FROM OPENING NIGHT!

The votes are in and the winner is Jason Varitek. He received 50% (10) of the votes. Victor Martinez finished second with 25% (5) of the votes. Our very own catcher, A.J. Pierzynski finished 3rd with 10% (2) of the votes. Others who received votes include Joe Mauer, Ivan Rodriguez, and Benji Molina, whom each received 1 vote.

Week 1 (Feb. 19 - Feb 25): WSI Best Overall Catcher: Jason Varitek
Week 2 (Feb. 26 - March 4): Best First Basemen (26th-28th)/Best Third Basemen (1st-4th)
Week 3 (March 5 - March 11): Best Shortstop
Week 4 (March 12 - March 18): Best Second Basemen
Week 5 (March 19 - March 25): Best Leftfielder (19th-21st)/Best Centerfielder (22nd-25th)
Week 6 (March 26 - April 1): Best Rightfielder (26th-28th)/Best Starting Pitcher (29th-1st)

This week's position: First Base and Third Base. First we will do First Base and then on March 1st, I will put up the thread for Third Base. This is a very good list to debate here folks. We have two of the very best first basemen right here in Chicago. Our very own Paul Konerko and Derek Lee. There's also guys like Mark Texeira, Richie Sexson, Carlos Delgado, Mike Sweeney, and Todd Helton.

However, the one not mentioned so far, in my opinion is the best overall baseball player in the game. And you don't have to look far from Chicago to find him; it's St. Louis' own Albert Pujols.

The guy is the elite triple threat. He can hit, he can field, and he can run. He seems like a soften spoken guy who leads by example. But from his interviews and those of his teammates, I can tell that he is also a vocal leader who doesn't feel like he has to yell and scream to get someone's attention. Playing for Tony La Russa only makes him a better player on and off the field. The guy is tremendously disciplined and just seems very durable. He probably won't win any gold gloves as long as Derek Lee and J.T. Snow are in the National League. But he will win his share of MVPs and probably a few World Series rings. He is a consistent hitter who will hit .300, 35-45 HRs, 120-140 RBIS easily.

He will probably end up finishing his career in St. Louis as the city loves him, the organization loves him, and he loves them both right back. I doubt they will ever short-change him and will pay him whatever he wants just to keep him around. He is also the top candidate to break Henry Aaron's all-time home-run record (assuming Barry Bonds' legs fall off/his body falls apart and he doesn't break it). He has 201 career home runs at the age of 26. If he can average 45 home runs for the next 12 years, he will have 741 homers at the age of 38 and will need just 15 in his 18th major league season to break the record. If he sustains his current durability and puts up power numbers the way he is putting them up now, he will easily reach and surpass Aaron's mark.

I think Derek Lee is second in this competition and some may argue he's better than or right up there with Pujols, but I honestly don't even think Lee is close runner-up. He had one unreal year where he was just on-the-mark almost every at-bat. But towards the end of the season, he started to breakdown and his average dropped almost 100 points and his OBP dropped over 70 points.

My Top 5 first basemen:
5) Sexson
4) Konerko
3) Texeira
2) Lee
1) Pujols


Now, in YOUR opinion, who's the best overall first basemen in the majors and why?

SoxFan76
02-26-2006, 03:54 AM
Dude, it's not even debatable. Pujols.

Professor
02-26-2006, 07:14 AM
Pujols. Hands down. I'd rank Teixeira second.

SectionBNole
02-26-2006, 08:06 AM
Doesnt Pujols split time in the corner OF? If we are counting him at 1B my top 3 would be:
1. Pujols
2. Helton
3. Texiera

Jjav829
02-26-2006, 09:12 AM
When do we get to the tough ones? :D:

Pujols. Hands down. He does just about everything better than any other first baseman.

Crede_Fan
02-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Has to be Pujols.

PAPChiSox729
02-26-2006, 09:56 AM
1. Pujols



2. Lee
3. Texeria
4. Helton
5. Konerko

Beer Can Chicken
02-26-2006, 10:11 AM
The conversation begins and ends with Pujols.

If I had to pick the rest it would probably go.

Delgado
Helton
Lee
Texiera

munchman33
02-26-2006, 12:09 PM
Pujols. But by the end of the year it could be Texiera. He's that good.

DSpivack
02-26-2006, 12:58 PM
1. Pujols
2. Teixeira.
3. Lee.
4. Helton.
5. Delgado.
6. Konerko.

CanBuehrleWait
02-26-2006, 01:15 PM
Phat Albert Pujols.... He da man.

SouthSide_HitMen
02-26-2006, 01:27 PM
I think you should skip 1B (Pujols) & 3B (A Rodriguez) and have a separate week for each of the three OF positions (RF, CF & LF).

Just a thought.

chisoxfanatic
02-26-2006, 01:50 PM
Pujols is easily the best first baseman in the game right now.

BUT, Konerko is still #1 in my heart! :)

TaylorStSox
02-26-2006, 01:55 PM
Pujols
Helton
Lee

SoXPriDe33
02-26-2006, 02:01 PM
Pujols hands down is the best first baseman in the MLB. If anyone says different they need to watch Pujols play.

NonetheLoaiza
02-26-2006, 02:21 PM
Pujols. No doubt.

WhiteSoxFan84
02-26-2006, 02:54 PM
I think you should skip 1B (Pujols) & 3B (A Rodriguez) and have a separate week for each of the three OF positions (RF, CF & LF).

Just a thought.

Great idea. I'm going to cut this week in half. February 26-28 will be 1st basemen, March 1-March 4th will be Third Basemen. Then we will do shortstop, then 2nd base, and the final two weeks will be split up into 4 categories, LF, CF, RF, and SP.

SectionBNole
02-26-2006, 03:40 PM
Good choice, looking forward to it!

chaotic8512
02-26-2006, 06:05 PM
I say we apply the mercy rule to this poll. :tongue:

It's got to be Pujols... agreed that it's not debatable.

The poll did say plural though, first basemen, so who's got the best 1B tandem? Even though Thome won't be playing there much, look no further than the Southside of Chicago. :D:

ChiSoxIn06
02-26-2006, 06:19 PM
Pujols no doubt but texiera is closing in..and helton just for the fact that hes been solid for the last 5 years

mcp5185
02-27-2006, 12:35 AM
Pujols...no-brainer.

2. Lee
3. Teixiera
4. Helton
5. Delgado
6. Konerko

dcb56
02-27-2006, 01:29 AM
Has that home run Pujols hit during game 5 of the NLCS reentered Earth's orbit yet?

ondafarm
02-27-2006, 10:13 AM
This year, I'll take Mark Texeira.

skottyj242
02-27-2006, 10:40 AM
Of course it's Pujols, followed by D. Lee. Why is everyone on Helton's nuts? He sucks.

Risk
02-27-2006, 11:05 AM
Pujols. No discussion necessary.

Risk

Joosh
02-27-2006, 11:06 AM
Pujols. Anybody who says otherwise doesn't know baseball.

1951Campbell
02-27-2006, 11:13 AM
Pujols. No discussion necessary.

Risk

Yep.

Rooney4Prez56
02-27-2006, 11:15 AM
This year, I'll take Mark Texeira.

It would've been unanimous.

PUJOLS.

cleanwsox
02-27-2006, 11:26 AM
Pujols, the guy is a living legend and how happy are we that he is in the same division as the Cubs! :tongue:

ondafarm
02-27-2006, 12:26 PM
It would've been unanimous.

PUJOLS.

I'll take more doubles, more triples, more homers and way more RBIs in a guy who's a lot harder to pitch around.

To be fair, choosing between one silver slugger winner and another should be pretty close.

soxfan26
02-27-2006, 02:17 PM
Ross Gload

swanson24
02-27-2006, 04:45 PM
ALbert Pujols is hands down the best first basemen in in baseball.
As for the rest: 2) Derrek Lee
3) Mark Teixiera
4) Todd Helton
5) Paul Konerko

Hangar18
02-27-2006, 04:56 PM
ALbert Pujols is hands down the best first basemen in in baseball.
As for the rest:
1) Albert Pujols
2) Derrek Lee
3) Mark Teixiera
4) Todd Helton
5) Paul Konerko

These are indeed all very high caliber first-basemen.

Of all these players, only one was acquired Via Salary Dump (for 2 low level minor-leaguers-disproportionate for the caliber of player he is)

PennStater98r
02-27-2006, 05:50 PM
1. Pujols - that's not even to mention that he'd be in the running if he were still a third baseman or left fielder.

2. Helton
3. Teixiera
4. Konerko
5. Delgado

PennStater98r
02-27-2006, 05:51 PM
These are indeed all very high caliber first-basemen.

Of all these players, only one was acquired Via Salary Dump (for 2 low level minor-leaguers-disproportionate for the caliber of player he is)

If you're referring to Konerko, I thought that Cameron was in on that deal...

And if we're talking Lee, wasn't Choi in on that?

buehrle4cy05
02-27-2006, 06:48 PM
It has to be Pujols. His numbers haven't been seen since the days of DiMaggio and Williams.

gbergman
02-27-2006, 08:12 PM
1. Pujols
2. Teixeira.
3. Lee.
4. Helton.
5. Konerko

Jjav829
02-27-2006, 09:24 PM
Of all these players, only one was acquired Via Salary Dump (for 2 low level minor-leaguers-disproportionate for the caliber of player he is)

And look how far he's carried them. :rolleyes:

Get over it.

samram
02-27-2006, 09:29 PM
And look how far he's carried them. :rolleyes:

Get over it.

Yeah, but you have to admit, he would be at the top of the "1B Acquired Via Salary Dump For 2 Low Level Minor-Leaguers-Disproportionate for the Caliber of Player He Is" list.:redneck

Dadawg_77
02-27-2006, 09:47 PM
Pujols
Teixeria
Ortiz (No DH so you would have to put him here)
Lee
Hafner (No DH so you would have to put him here)

lostletters
02-28-2006, 01:56 AM
Pujols, the guy is a living legend and how happy are we that he is in the same division as the Cubs! :tongue:
Pujols. Plus if the guy keeps it up he will probably be the best first baseman of all time. Hell he may end up being the best hitter of all time if he keeps it up throughout his career. He is already blazing through the record books as far as best start for a player.

He has been in the big leagues only five years and already nearly has 1000 hits, 600 RBIs, and over 200 HRS, and his hit well over .300 each year since he entered the bigs. A player like Pujols does not come once a generation, he comes once every 100 years. Plus I do not even think he has peaked.

As it was said earlier, skip 1st and 3rd. Nobody is even close to the guys who play these positions, they are dominated by two players who have already broken several records and won several MVPs.

Domeshot17
03-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Pujols with Texiera a somewhat close second, and Lee/Konerko/Helton fighting for the last 3 spots.

I wont count David Ortiz or Thome or Frank because they are DH. Maybe she should finish this week with a DH debate since 1b is set

palehozenychicty
03-01-2006, 01:25 PM
Pujols. (That game 5 NLCS homer was unreal.)
Teixiera
Helton
Konerko
Lee