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caulfield12
02-22-2006, 04:59 PM
If Bajenaru, Tracey, Redding or someone out of the blue like Corwin Malone has a dominant ST?

I know McCarthy has EARNED the spot on the club, heck, he would be a 3 or even 2 starter in some MLB rotations....but wouldnt it be better for him to get regular starts down in the minors (I know, I know, Charlotte is a hitters stadium...but so is Comiskey, lol). Then he could be called up whenever he was needed, instead of shifting back and forth from middle relief to spot starting.

Any favorites for the Marte spot? So far we have....

J. Lopez (not pitching for PR apparently in WBC)
Almanza
Rusty Tucker (great arm prior to injury problems)
Stephen Randolph
Arnie Munoz (has he responded to the not tough enough comments of OG?)
Chad Bentz (great human interest story with the J. Abbott angle)
Corwin Malone
Paulino Reynoso

I guess the favorites right now would have to be Almanza and Reynoso, although Bentz looks like he has a shot too.

lumberjack923
02-22-2006, 05:18 PM
I think your pushing it when you say he could be a #2. Let the kid pitch a half a year before making assumptions like that.

caulfield12
02-22-2006, 05:20 PM
I think your pushing it when you say he could be a #2. Let the kid pitch a half a year before making assumptions like that.

Well, for the D-Rays, lol.

Seriously, the kid pitched much better down the stretch than Kip Wells in 1999 (remember the Red Sox, Rangers and Twins-Santana games?) and Wells was expected to be the ace of our staff, along with Sirotka, going into the 2000 season.

I think you could find at least 10 MLB teams he would be as high as the 3rd starter for, right now.

lumberjack923
02-22-2006, 05:24 PM
Agreed...but if the only way he is going to get experience against big league hitters is in the bullpen, I think that he belongs there. He will eventually be an important component of the starting rotation. I don't think he will be a waste in the pen.

Banix12
02-22-2006, 05:28 PM
While certainly it would be nice to have him stretched out as a starter in case we need one there is absolutely nothing left for him to prove down in AAA. We already know he can get out AAA hitters with relative ease.

I would rather him get experience against major league level hitters and if he has to get it in the bullpen, so be it. Getting work against MLB talent is the really the only way right now that he's going to become a better pitcher.

caulfield12
02-22-2006, 05:31 PM
While certainly it would be nice to have him stretched out as a starter in case we need one there is absolutely nothing left for him to prove down in AAA. We already know he can get out AAA hitters with relative ease.

I would rather him get experience against major league level hitters and if he has to get it in the bullpen, so be it. Getting work against MLB talent is the really the only way right now that he's going to become a better pitcher.

I just want to see the quotes from OG if Jerry Owens or Arnie Munoz make the team out of ST...I am sure they will be priceless.

Banix12
02-22-2006, 05:42 PM
Any favorites for the Marte spot? So far we have....

J. Lopez (not pitching for PR apparently in WBC)
Almanza
Rusty Tucker (great arm prior to injury problems)
Stephen Randolph
Arnie Munoz (has he responded to the not tough enough comments of OG?)
Chad Bentz (great human interest story with the J. Abbott angle)
Corwin Malone
Paulino Reynoso

I guess the favorites right now would have to be Almanza and Reynoso, although Bentz looks like he has a shot too.

I don't see any favorites coming into spring training. Partially because none have done much at the major league level and partially because Ozzie never really seems to play favorites when putting together his team in spring training.

Last season Wilson Valdez looked like a favorite to make the team because Ozzie was high on him in Florida but Ozuna got the backup job because he outperformed him. Burke and Davis looked like clear favorites for the backup catcher job and the job went to Widger. Ozzie put Gload on the roster in 04' even though the sox had a 1b and he didn't play a very good OF, most teams he doesn't make the roster.

To me they are all basically starting out even with near equal shots to make the squad. It's just a matter of who is going to step up.

SOXintheBURGH
02-22-2006, 05:53 PM
Ask Mark Buehrle how his career has been since coming out of the pen.

ondafarm
02-22-2006, 06:41 PM
At this point in his career what McCarthy needs is experience in getting big league hitters out. Ideally, that would be as a starter, and unless the Sox could loan him to someone who needs badly pitching like the Padres or something, then his spot is in the big-league White Sox bullpen. He won't get as much work (probably) but he should benefit the most from the experience. Besides, I'm willing to bet that at least one starter will have a few week stay on the DL this year.

Short Answer: No.

maurice
02-22-2006, 06:58 PM
Does anyone think McCarthy should start in AAA? If Bajenaru, Tracey, Redding or someone out of the blue like Corwin Malone has a dominant ST?

No. McCarthy should get plenty of work on the big league club. Also, the team will break camp with 11 or (more likely) 12 pitchers. There's plenty of room for McCarthy and whoever else earns a job.

gregp65
02-22-2006, 09:13 PM
No!

jehosaphat
02-22-2006, 11:28 PM
No. Mainly for all the reasons above. Plus, I think such a move could mentally screw him up. He's earned his spot on the team, and going down to minors would have to be such a letdown, he might actually pitch poorly there and lose confidence, and then a lack of confidence could lead to poorer performance, and so on.

If he struggles with the White Sox then there is a good reason for him to go back down to the farm and work out the kinks. But, his performance was so awesome last year that he has earned his spot on the roster.

I think if he is needed in the rotation at a later date in the season, he'd be better prepared to be successful if he was a member of the major league club from the get go. Not to mention, I think he'll be able to make important contributions as a reliever.

IlliniSox4Life
02-23-2006, 12:44 AM
None of those guys in relief are better than McCarthy in relief, and none of them come even close to McCarthy starting, so the answer is most definately no.

Like you said, the kid earned his spot. So give it to him.

lostletters
02-23-2006, 01:44 AM
No. Simply No.

He is a good pitcher with alot of talent. He needs more MLB experience though to be a starter. The guy has the potential to be the next strong white sox starter. Having him languish in the minors will help nothing. Having him face high profile hitters on a regular basis, even out of the bullpen, is only going to help him in 2007, when he does become a regular starter. Plus, Cooper, AJ, and the rest of the staff and players will help him reach his true potential more then the minor leagues at this point. He is ready for the majors more then any other player in our system.

Domeshot17
02-23-2006, 01:53 AM
Keep in mind also McCarthy was up and down twice last season, Have to watch his minor league options, so having another year of up and down could handcuff us.

Other than that, Im still with the majoriy that the kid earned his spot. I think he earned the playoff spot, and you cant keep letting the kid down. He should have been with the club out of spring training, then never sent down.I mean it all worked out, but the kid should get his dues this year. I expect him to be a huge part of our bullpen.

In terms of favorites, I agree there is no clear cut. I think you will see the guy who dominates left handed hitters the most win the job as opposed to just the best stats. The guy we bring is going to be our specialist, 1 2 outs maybe an inning a game. And Please dont call bentz anything but a pitcher. He said it best, he stopped thinking about the handicap when he was 12, he doesnt want the job because of it or lose it because of it. He wants to come in and earn it.

i guess I feel for Bentz in the sense that sometimes you just want to look past it. I had 2 hip replacements years ago, and in a college game I hit 2 home runs in our spring trip to florida. My coach told the other coach the impressive thing was I did that wih 2 partially fake hips. And all I could think was the impressive thing was that I hit 2 home runs as a freshman in a game haha. Sometimes you want people to put the injury behind you because you dont want to be reminded of it.

ShoelessJoeS
02-23-2006, 01:57 AM
Most certainly not...revert to SITB's post

QCIASOXFAN
02-23-2006, 02:37 AM
No way. Mccarthy has earned his way onto this ballclub and it would be a low blow to demote him now. He could come out of the bullpen and even make random starts. I know as well as we all know he is next in line as a starter. God willing if anything happens to one of our starters, hes our boy.

Steelrod
02-23-2006, 09:01 AM
No way. Mccarthy has earned his way onto this ballclub and it would be a low blow to demote him now. He could come out of the bullpen and even make random starts. I know as well as we all know he is next in line as a starter. God willing if anything happens to one of our starters, hes our boy.
On the other hand, he would be prepping as a starter, in case we need one. Also, it would slow down his service time for the future.

ondafarm
02-23-2006, 11:25 AM
Also, it would slow down his service time for the future.


Penny-wise, pound foolish is no way to run a championship caliber major league baseball team.

sullythered
02-23-2006, 11:50 AM
Naw. I think Brandon has a much better chance to be successful out of the pen than any of the other guys that have been mentioned. I think it's important to get him as much time in the Bigs as possible, but I think it's even more important to put the best team on the field.