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Gosox1917
02-20-2006, 04:11 PM
I just bet my friend a dinner at Buffalouie's that Jim Thome will hit 50 homers this season. I think it is definitely possible considering he is healthy. He did it before just a few years ago with the Tribe when he had basically nobody hitting around him. Also, he's always killed the ball at Comiskey/U. S. Cellular Field and with Konkeko protecting him, he should be able to accomplish the feat this season. Let me know what you guys think. Hopefully, my friend will be buying me dinner by the end of August.

sox1970
02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
That's a lot to ask. I'd go with 35-40 homers and 110 knocked in.

RoobarbPie
02-20-2006, 04:15 PM
I think your projection is too optimistic, but I hope you're right.

I'm guessing around 40 HR's, thinking that he'll either miss a few games to injury or to prevent/rest an injury.

downstairs
02-20-2006, 04:16 PM
Scotty Pods will hit a walkoff home run in the World Series before that happens.

Oh, wait...

:cool:

itsnotrequired
02-20-2006, 04:18 PM
Hey, anything is possible...

NoNeckEra
02-20-2006, 04:18 PM
NOBODY hits 50 homers a year anymore. 40 would be fantastic. He walks too much anyway and that's going to cost him some ABs.

The Dude
02-20-2006, 04:19 PM
Ill predict 37 dingers, but 50 is a bit too much to ask from him at his stage in his career. I just hope he can keep up the average more importantly.

THEBIGHURT35
02-20-2006, 04:24 PM
My guess is that Thome will hit about 40-45 because he has Konerko and Dye hitting behind him. He will get alot of pitches to hit.

Deebs14
02-20-2006, 04:26 PM
I think it's a bit optimistic, but I certainly wouldn't mind it whatsoever. Realistically, I'd be happy with anything from 30-40.

ondafarm
02-20-2006, 04:26 PM
Fifty is a lot of homers for anybody to hit in any park. That being said, Thome is a great pull hitter, who can also go yard opposite field so if anyone has a chance of resetting the White Sox team record of homers (Belle with 49 currently) then Thome would be the guy. A lefty pull hitter has to love the ALCD: KC, Minnesota, Detroit and Cleveland are all good parks for power hitters and USCF is supposedly the best in all of American baseball. Cleveland and Minnesota both seemed to have regressed on their pitching staffs and I'm not sure I worry too much about Detroit's.

The Wall
02-20-2006, 04:31 PM
He walks too much anyway and that's going to cost him some ABs.

Geez.

This is a dark cloud thread...no one supports our DH n #3 hitter in his quest for the solo long ball. Dontcha know? chicks dig the long ball? He cant hit 50 homers...he walks too much...he strikes out rarely...blah.

:D:

itsnotrequired
02-20-2006, 04:34 PM
He walks too much anyway and that's going to cost him some ABs.

So what? He's still showing up at the plate.:tongue:

If we are talking intentional walks, then that's a different story...

santo=dorf
02-20-2006, 04:36 PM
If he stays healthy I think he will.

mike squires
02-20-2006, 04:38 PM
I would have put my beer down and backed from the table slowly.

No, I don't think he will but it's fun to make bets like that. Makes the season all that more fun.

NonetheLoaiza
02-20-2006, 04:38 PM
I tell you what. I'll buy you 50 dinners if he hits 50 home runs. I'm not being a dark cloud, but like someone already said, no one hits 50 anymore. I hope you're right, but I think 35 is a more realistic number. He'll just draw too many walks.

Ol' No. 2
02-20-2006, 04:42 PM
I tell you what. I'll buy you 50 dinners if he hits 50 home runs. I'm not being a dark cloud, but like someone already said, no one hits 50 anymore. I hope you're right, but I think 35 is a more realistic number. He'll just draw too many walks.With Konerko hitting behind him his BB total may go down. But 50 is quite a stretch. I might have taken action on 40.

NSSoxFan
02-20-2006, 04:42 PM
I'll tell you that you're gonna lose the bet. Bet on something around 30-35 HR for Thome.

Gosox1917
02-20-2006, 04:55 PM
I tell you what. I'll buy you 50 dinners if he hits 50 home runs.

I'll take that bet! And as mentioned before, it does make the season more fun to make these bets. Hopefully, my friend won't buy a big dinner if I lose. For the reasons I mentioned at the start of this thread, I just have a strong feeling he will get to 50 this year. It's gonna be a special year for Thome.

34 Inch Stick
02-20-2006, 04:59 PM
I think he will hit in the 40's with 50 being an outside possibility. I think there are too many people forgetting about guys like Dye and Pierzinski reinvigorating their power numbers by becoming White Sox.

The Cell is baseball's last legal steroid (except for all the stuff that can be easily screened).

Lip Man 1
02-20-2006, 05:08 PM
It would be an amazing feet to hit 50. I don't think that's going to happen. 30-35 is more likely if he's healthy a full season.

Lip

The Critic
02-20-2006, 05:08 PM
Add me to the 35-40 bunch.
50'd be tough, even at USCF.
Good Luck, though!!

Hitmen77
02-20-2006, 05:23 PM
I just bet my friend a dinner at Buffalouie's that Jim Thome will hit 50 homers this season. I think it is definitely possible considering he is healthy. He did it before just a few years ago with the Tribe when he had basically nobody hitting around him. Also, he's always killed the ball at Comiskey/U. S. Cellular Field and with Konkeko protecting him, he should be able to accomplish the feat this season. Let me know what you guys think. Hopefully, my friend will be buying me dinner by the end of August.

I think odds are he doesn't get 50, but what the heck - worth a dinner bet over IMO. Look at this this way, if he returns to form and hits "only" 40 HRs and helps drive the Sox to another pennant, then I would gladly pay for your friends dinner if I were you.

The Racehorse
02-20-2006, 05:38 PM
In this day and age, 50 bombs seems on the high side... 35 to 40 ding-dongs this year from Thome will make me moocho happy.

IlliniSox4Life
02-20-2006, 05:49 PM
I doubt Thome will hit 50. He's only reached that milestone once in his career, and I doubt he'll do it coming off an injury, even at homer friendly US Cellular. I'd love for him to do it, but 40 is much more realistic.

soxfan26
02-20-2006, 05:58 PM
Hope springs eternal. :cool:

yankees_in_06
02-20-2006, 06:58 PM
Man, Buffalouies is sure gonna taste good in October next year. you sure were delusional Kovatch.

gobears1987
02-20-2006, 07:17 PM
I just bet my friend a dinner at Buffalouie's that Jim Thome will hit 50 homers this season. I think it is definitely possible considering he is healthy. He did it before just a few years ago with the Tribe when he had basically nobody hitting around him. Also, he's always killed the ball at Comiskey/U. S. Cellular Field and with Konkeko protecting him, he should be able to accomplish the feat this season. Let me know what you guys think. Hopefully, my friend will be buying me dinner by the end of August.

1. Please send me some wings from Buffalouies. I miss that being down at Purdue instead of being home in Valpo.

2. Thome won't hit 50, but he most certainly will hit over 40 IMO (staying healthy that is.)

TheOldRoman
02-20-2006, 07:23 PM
To everyone who said "nobody hits 50 homers anymore", look at Andruw Jones' stats last year.
30-35 is a pretty low guess, IMO. If Thome stays healthy, he will get to 50.

Jjav829
02-20-2006, 07:34 PM
50? Wow, that's a little overly optimistic. I would say 35 homers would be considered a good year. Even in his prime Thome only hit 50 homers once. To expect him to suddenly top that again when he is 35 and coming off a major injury is a bit unrealistic. If I were you I would go try to bargain that bet down to 40.

yankees_in_06
02-20-2006, 07:41 PM
To everyone who said "nobody hits 50 homers anymore", look at Andruw Jones' stats last year.
30-35 is a pretty low guess, IMO. If Thome stays healthy, he will get to 50.

considering guys like ortiz, A-Rod, Texiera, and others didnt make it above 50, thats a bold statement.

rookiewhitesox
02-20-2006, 07:44 PM
my little son he type 33r

soxinem1
02-20-2006, 08:19 PM
35-40 is fine. Any thing over that is a bonus.

I hope he does get 50, it'll take Belle out of #1 season HR in the White Sox record books!!!

thomas35forever
02-20-2006, 09:00 PM
I wouldn't expect a guy who just got off an injury-plagued year to hit 50 homers. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

ondafarm
02-20-2006, 10:05 PM
I wouldn't expect a guy who just got off an injury-plagued year to hit 50 homers. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

I'd call this a positive factor, within reason. He's more rested.

mccombe_35
02-20-2006, 10:33 PM
I have to say I'd take the under on 50.... & 40......

hope Thome proves me wrong!:smile:

A fun bet though..

mccombe_35
02-20-2006, 10:40 PM
wow. seems like a lot of you say 35 - 40 HRs would "be fine". Like you'd settle for just a 35 - 40 HR season. High expectations for a guy coming off a 7 HR season that turns 36 this year imo.

Again, I'd LOVE to see him with a high HR total. but that RBI total means a lot more to me.

Nellie_Fox
02-21-2006, 12:19 AM
You have "huevos grande" to actually be willing to bet on 50. I can appreciate your enthusiasm, but...

santo=dorf
02-21-2006, 12:51 AM
Thome loves hitting in the AL Central parks

Career:
Jacobs Field: .306/.440/.629 176 HR in 630 games
HHH dome: .343/.424/.677 23 HR in 65 games
Comerica: .239/.385/.577 7 HR in 25 games
Kauffman: .276/.371/.453 9 HR in 52 games
USCF: .286/.382/.600 18 HR in 58 games

From those numbers he should hit around 36 homers against AL Central teams and all home games. Can he get 14 road homers against non-AL Central teams. I think so. :wink:

lostletters
02-21-2006, 01:56 AM
If he is healthy, he will probably hit over 40. If you have ever seen him hit in the Phillies games, you can believe it will happen. I think anything under 35 is a bit too low.

I will not say 50. But I would not be surprised if that happens.

My guess is 41-45. Again, if he is healthy, it could very well happen. Largely because it is tough to pitch around a guy when Konerko and Dye come right after him. Between the three I am guessing over 100 HRs is almost garunteed if everybody is healthy.

the gooch
02-21-2006, 12:38 PM
i made a similar bet this offseason regarding thomas. i said he WOULD hit 20 home runs for the A's. anybody care to place odds on that one? id say the only gamble on that one is his health.

hawkjt
02-21-2006, 01:24 PM
I would say that you had a case of what Alan Greenspan would call '' irrational exuberance''.

Anything over 30 would be a bonus and better than we got from Carl E. last year. I would be very pleased if he can hit 35 and have the high on-base % that he has maintained over his career.

mccombe_35
02-21-2006, 08:43 PM
The Sox actually got pretty good production out of the DH spot last year.

33 HRs & 107 RBIs.

But, The difference Thome should bring is that high OB% (as some of you have mentioned.)

What was not very good last year out of the DH spot was the .310 OB% & just 75 runs scored.

we be jake
02-21-2006, 09:04 PM
I think it's a bit optimistic, but I certainly wouldn't mind it whatso
ever. Realistically, I'd be happy with anything from 30-40.
YES, This sounds more realistic 30-40

JohnBasedowYoda
02-21-2006, 10:13 PM
My guess is that Thome will hit about 40-45 because he has Konerko and Dye hitting behind him. He will get alot of pitches to hit.

I just realized how awesome the lineup is!:bandance:

ManagerMark
02-22-2006, 11:05 AM
All I want from Thome is a few points higher on the average than Evrett had, twice as many home runs, and a better on base percentage.

White Sox Randy
02-22-2006, 11:17 AM
My guess is that Thome will hit about 40-45 because he has Konerko and Dye hitting behind him. He will get alot of pitches to hit.
Konerko will be batting in front of Thome, which is why he won't hit 50. It should be Konerko, Thome, Dye and so I expect Thome to hit about 40.

Imagine this...40+ from Konerko and Thome

30+ from Dye and Crede

20+ from Iguchi, Uribe, A.J. and Anderson.........WOW !

ondafarm
02-22-2006, 12:01 PM
Thome loves hitting in the AL Central parks

Career:
Jacobs Field: .306/.440/.629 176 HR in 630 games
HHH dome: .343/.424/.677 23 HR in 65 games
Comerica: .239/.385/.577 7 HR in 25 games
Kauffman: .276/.371/.453 9 HR in 52 games
USCF: .286/.382/.600 18 HR in 58 games

From those numbers he should hit around 36 homers against AL Central teams and all home games. Can he get 14 road homers against non-AL Central teams. I think so. :wink:

Using his USCF and extrapolating over 81 home games, that would mean he'd hit just over 25 homers. To me this means 50 for the season is a reachable number.

His Comerica numbers are slightly missleading because his experience is all from before the redesign, when they brought the fences in (a lot.)

Actually, his 4H-club numbers are also slightly artificial because he was rested against Santana (lefty on lefty) when Cleveland played in there. Take a team's (league's?) best pitcher out of the mix and your numbers will look a little high.

Still, I think Thome has a shot of hitting 50 homers, especially with Uribe/Iguchi batting in front of him and Konerko and Dye hitting behind him.

allkenz
02-22-2006, 12:14 PM
If Thome plays 150 games, I'll be thrilled.

40 for Jim, 40 for Konerko, 25 at least for Dye, I'd be very happy :D:

Ol' No. 2
02-22-2006, 12:39 PM
Konerko will be batting in front of Thome, ...I can almost guarantee you he won't.

Fake Chet Lemon
02-22-2006, 01:03 PM
I wouldn't put money down on it myself, but 50 for a strong lefty in the Cell, with Paul-ee backing you up, with Podzilla's speed giving you a diet of fastballs.....hey it's possible batting 3rd.

Hitmen77
02-22-2006, 03:16 PM
Konerko will be batting in front of Thome, which is why he won't hit 50. It should be Konerko, Thome, Dye and so I expect Thome to hit about 40.

Imagine this...40+ from Konerko and Thome

30+ from Dye and Crede

20+ from Iguchi, Uribe, A.J. and Anderson.........WOW !

If the Sox can add to that Buerhle and Garcia having another one of their typical seasons, Garland, Contreras, and McCarthy picking up where they left off last year, and Vazquez regaining some of the consistency he showed in Montreal, then really WOW!

Of course, that starts to add up to alot of pieces falling into place, but the potential is there. We're not talking about anyone going beyond their career norm (except for Anderson). The main thing will be to avoid any significant injuries.

santo=dorf
02-22-2006, 03:24 PM
Using his USCF and extrapolating over 81 home games, that would mean he'd hit just over 25 homers. To me this means 50 for the season is a reachable number.

His Comerica numbers are slightly missleading because his experience is all from before the redesign, when they brought the fences in (a lot.)

Actually, his 4H-club numbers are also slightly artificial because he was rested against Santana (lefty on lefty) when Cleveland played in there. Take a team's (league's?) best pitcher out of the mix and your numbers will look a little high.

Still, I think Thome has a shot of hitting 50 homers, especially with Uribe/Iguchi batting in front of him and Konerko and Dye hitting behind him.
Don't forget the changes to USCF. He hit 4 homers against us in 2004. 1.214 SLG% against. :o:
If you recall one of his homers was a chipshot off of Shingo to the Sox's bullpen. I can really see him hitting a lot of those this season.