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Baby Fisk
02-16-2006, 08:12 AM
More uncertainty for the Yankee rotation: linky (http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spyanks0216,0,4448701.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines)

TAMPA, Fla. -- The Yankees officially open spring training when pitchers and catchers report today, yet they already have their first injury concern.

Yesterday, the team told Carl Pavano, coming off a disappointing, injury-plagued first season in pinstripes, that a back specialist has recommended he should not throw off a mound for 10 to 14 days, putting his status for Opening Day in question.

veeter
02-16-2006, 08:47 AM
The Yankee staff is old and injured. No way they get the same milage from Small and Chacon. I think they're in for a long year. Although they'll pull off some trade.

Scottiehaswheels
02-16-2006, 08:50 AM
The Yankee staff is old and injured. No way they get the same milage from Small and Chacon. I think they're in for a long year. Although they'll pull off some trade.

Trade? You gotta have something that someone wants to trade.. What are the Yank's willing to part with that could bring back anything? Cano is about the only affordable guy on their roster... Their minor league system sucks....

spiffie
02-16-2006, 09:31 AM
Trade? You gotta have something that someone wants to trade.. What are the Yank's willing to part with that could bring back anything? Cano is about the only affordable guy on their roster... Their minor league system sucks....
They have tradeable pieces, but it would have to involve lots of salary eating. Perhaps the Angels around midseason decide that they need more offense and can accept giving Sheffield an extension if the Yanks eat his salary for this year in return for a pitcher. Perhaps the Yanks pay 80% of A-Rod's salary for the chance to bring Contreras back to the Bronx.

palehozenychicty
02-16-2006, 10:07 AM
They have tradeable pieces, but it would have to involve lots of salary eating. Perhaps the Angels around midseason decide that they need more offense and can accept giving Sheffield an extension if the Yanks eat his salary for this year in return for a pitcher. Perhaps the Yanks pay 80% of A-Rod's salary for the chance to bring Contreras back to the Bronx.

A-Fraud will definitely return us to the World Series. He may even catch the balls that get into the Cell's lights.

veeter
02-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Trade? You gotta have something that someone wants to trade.. What are the Yank's willing to part with that could bring back anything? Cano is about the only affordable guy on their roster... Their minor league system sucks.... I realize they have little left. But they seem to always find a way. This time, though, they might come crashing down.

The Dude
02-16-2006, 11:00 AM
Well if it werent for these Yankmees, we'd be the top favorite to win the series. I for one hope we stay the 2nd favorite so we can be, you know, all under the radar again.:tongue:

Scottiehaswheels
02-16-2006, 11:07 AM
They have tradeable pieces, but it would have to involve lots of salary eating. Perhaps the Angels around midseason decide that they need more offense and can accept giving Sheffield an extension if the Yanks eat his salary for this year in return for a pitcher. Perhaps the Yanks pay 80% of A-Rod's salary for the chance to bring Contreras back to the Bronx.

Sheffield? the same Sheffield that threatened to quit if he was traded last year? why would anyone want him?

Trav
02-16-2006, 11:53 AM
Sheffield? the same Sheffield that threatened to quit if he was traded last year? why would anyone want him?

No, the Sheffield that refused to give even 50% effort unless he was traded from the Brewers.

NonetheLoaiza
02-16-2006, 01:36 PM
No, the Sheffield that refused to give even 50% effort unless he was traded from the Brewers.

Are we all talking about the same Sheffield that wasn't going to play for the Yankees after he decided he was worth about 3 million more than what he agreed to after the fact?

soxinem1
02-16-2006, 01:59 PM
They have tradeable pieces, but it would have to involve lots of salary eating. Perhaps the Angels around midseason decide that they need more offense and can accept giving Sheffield an extension if the Yanks eat his salary for this year in return for a pitcher. Perhaps the Yanks pay 80% of A-Rod's salary for the chance to bring Contreras back to the Bronx.

Why would George do that? He's going to buy him back at the end of the season with a 5yr/$75 million free agent contract anyway!

I'll trade JC and Iguchi for A-Rod any day. Then Uribe can go back to 2B and Alex to SS. Some silly things aside, A-Rod is one of the few winners on that team.

Trav
02-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Why would George do that? He's going to buy him back at the end of the season with a 5yr/$75 million free agent contract anyway!

I'll trade JC and Iguchi for A-Rod any day. Then Uribe can go back to 2B and Alex to SS. Some silly things aside, A-Rod is one of the few winners on that team.


You can tell by the championship rings he has.

spiffie
02-16-2006, 02:44 PM
You can tell by the championship rings he has.
Yes, he's the one who made the Yankees get a decrepit old pitching staff that is in no way built for the postseason. Those awful outing out of the bullpen in 2004 and the way he gave up those runs to the Angels on 2005...

Trav
02-16-2006, 02:57 PM
Yes, he's the one who made the Yankees get a decrepit old pitching staff that is in no way built for the postseason. Those awful outing out of the bullpen in 2004 and the way he gave up those runs to the Angels on 2005...



Where has he won?

skottyj242
02-16-2006, 03:24 PM
Screw the Bankees.

soxinem1
02-16-2006, 04:52 PM
You can tell by the championship rings he has.

Winner meaning winning ballplayer, not rings. I didn't realize we were splitting hairs here.

Lonnie Smith has a closet full of World Series rings, and I never thought of him as a winning player, he just happend to be at the right place at the right time. Is he just because he has three of them? Hardly.

Carlton Fisk was a winning player, and he has no World Series rings, are you disputing that too with your narrow-minded definition of a winning ball player?

There is not a team out there, except maybe the Marlins, that would not jump at the chance at figuring out a way to put A-Rod on their team. The D-Rays would do it too, they know they would get another 5-10K a game just having him in the lineup.

Do you hold Benji Gil in this high regard too?

Fenway
02-16-2006, 04:56 PM
The Yankee staff is old and injured. No way they get the same milage from Small and Chacon. I think they're in for a long year. Although they'll pull off some trade.

Yankees will be in a lot of 10-8 games this year.

Over 162 games they will do fine but they are not at all set up for a short series. But I think New York will be battling Toronto for the second slot in the east and possible WC, I think overall Boston is in better shape

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Trav
02-16-2006, 04:56 PM
Winner meaning winning ballplayer, not rings. I didn't realize we were splitting hairs here.

Lonnie Smith has a closet full of World Series rings, and I never thought of him as a winning player, he just happend to be at the right place at the right time. Is he just because he has three of them? Hardly.

Carlton Fisk was a winning player, and he has no World Series rings, are you disputing that too with your narrow-minded definition of a winning ball player?

There is not a team out there, except maybe the Marlins, that would not jump at the chance at figuring out a way to put A-Rod on their team. The D-Rays would do it too, they know they would get another 5-10K a game just having him in the lineup.

Do you hold Benji Gil in this high regard too?



You didn't say anything about being a good ballplayer. You said winning. How do you define winning? It sounds like you define it by individual stats.

soxinem1
02-16-2006, 05:33 PM
You didn't say anything about being a good ballplayer. You said winning. How do you define winning? It sounds like you define it by individual stats.

Definitely not. I labeled A-Rod a winner because he is.

Rowand is a winning ballplayer. He may never be in the HOF or even make an All-Star team, but he is a winner.

Royce Clayton has had a better offensive career than Ozzie Guillen did, on paper. Who is the winner in this case, Oz or the Millie Vanilli look-alike? I believe Ozzie is, and I am sure most on this board would agree.

My context of winner does not only involve stats, it involves style and attitude brought to the game, and not by how many rings a player has on his hand.

Trav
02-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Definitely not. I labeled A-Rod a winner because he is.

Rowand is a winning ballplayer. He may never be in the HOF or even make an All-Star team, but he is a winner.

Royce Clayton has had a better offensive career than Ozzie Guillen did, on paper. Who is the winner in this case, Oz or the Millie Vanilli look-alike? I believe Ozzie is, and I am sure most on this board would agree.

My context of winner does not only involve stats, it involves style and attitude brought to the game, and not by how many rings a player has on his hand.

You don't think being a winner has anything to do with winning?
I think the word you are looking for is "gamer". And that would even be in question when it comes to Rodriguez

buehrle4cy05
02-19-2006, 10:21 PM
Is there a teal crying icon?

Rooney4Prez56
02-24-2006, 11:25 AM
The Yankee staff is old and injured. No way they get the same milage from Small and Chacon. I think they're in for a long year. Although they'll pull off some trade.

They'll trade prospects for another old veteran pitcher to add to their broken down rotation. They're almost as injured as the Cubs's.