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Chicken Dinner
02-07-2006, 12:47 PM
Looks like our career .191 hitter took number 27 after big Jim Thome swiped away number 25 from him. I would guess the Sox told him that they would only pay to change 1 numeral. :o: </IMG>

BeefyD
02-07-2006, 12:49 PM
#27 worked for Blum, didn't it? maybe Borchard will finally have his day in the sun...

MUsoxfan
02-07-2006, 12:50 PM
Looks like he's got #27 until Jamie Burke gets back with the team:redneck

eriqjaffe
02-07-2006, 12:50 PM
maybe Borchard will finally have his day in the sun...I think he already did when he hit that 500 foot HR back in '04.

BeefyD
02-07-2006, 12:51 PM
Ahhh... that's right. I forgot about his concourse bomb....

Madvora
02-07-2006, 01:01 PM
Chris Snopek is going to be pissed.

A. Cavatica
02-07-2006, 01:12 PM
I would guess the Sox told him that they would only pay to change 1 numeral.</IMG>

Well, if that's the case, Borchard could've kept the 5 and gone with 53 - in commemoration of his signing bonus.

Hangar18
02-07-2006, 01:14 PM
Looks like our career .191 hitter took number 27 after big Jim Thome swiped away number 25 from him. I would guess the Sox told him that they would only pay to change 1 numeral. :o: </IMG>

This was done a while back. I think a number change was in order for him,
maybe it will give him some mojo and luck. Good Luck Joe :cool:

soxinem1
02-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Chris Snopek is going to be pissed.

So is Greg Hibbard!!!

Hangar18
02-07-2006, 04:21 PM
So is Greg Hibbard!!!

Not to mention Ken Henderson

California Sox
02-07-2006, 07:37 PM
And Ken Kravec.

gobears1987
02-07-2006, 07:42 PM
Give him the number 5,000,000. Maybe letting him know how much money we wasted on him will light a fire under his ass.

TheDarkGundam
02-07-2006, 07:50 PM
Finally! Now I know what number to get my Borchard jersey changed to!:redneck

Daver
02-07-2006, 07:52 PM
Give him the number 5,000,000. Maybe letting him know how much money we wasted on him will light a fire under his ass.

You sign Borchard's paycheck?

Goodman6
02-07-2006, 09:09 PM
Not to mention Ken Henderson

Sorry to correct you Hangar, but Ken Henderson wore No. 24.

TDog
02-07-2006, 10:57 PM
I wasn't sure who you were talking about until I looked up the stats and saw Brian Anderson hit .178 last year and wore 44.

mike squires
02-07-2006, 11:06 PM
The real question will be who will be wearing #27 in a few months when joe is no longer...No, Joe is a personal favorite of mine. I think he has put a lot of pressure on himself. You can see it in his at bats. I hope Walk can get his head on straight, build some confidence and do something. But, even if he does...where would he play?

doublem23
02-07-2006, 11:18 PM
The real question will be who will be wearing #27 in a few months when joe is no longer...No, Joe is a personal favorite of mine. I think he has put a lot of pressure on himself. You can see it in his at bats. I hope Walk can get his head on straight, build some confidence and do something. But, even if he does...where would he play?

Nothing wrong with having a little insurance. Hopefully Joe realizes he's not really expected to produce like he once was and he takes the pressure off himself.

I could deal with a 4th OF/back-up DH capable of having a .270/15/50 season. :cool:

Banix12
02-08-2006, 12:23 AM
The real question will be who will be wearing #27 in a few months when joe is no longer...No, Joe is a personal favorite of mine. I think he has put a lot of pressure on himself. You can see it in his at bats. I hope Walk can get his head on straight, build some confidence and do something. But, even if he does...where would he play?

Walker has had years to get Borchard's head on straight. No reason to believe it's gonna happen now.

Nothing wrong with having a little insurance. Hopefully Joe realizes he's not really expected to produce like he once was and he takes the pressure off himself.

I could deal with a 4th OF/back-up DH capable of having a .270/15/50 season. :cool:

That would be a good line for a backup OF/DH and if he increases his power a bit Mackowiak might hit 15 HRs.

Borchard has got a snowball's chance in hell of hitting .270 and the other numbers on that line are probably a stretch as well. A more likely line for him as a 4th OF is something like .210/9/25. To get 15 HRs and 50 RBIs he would have to at least get 270-330 ABs and if Borchard is getting that many ABs the sox are in serious trouble.

SoxSpeed22
02-08-2006, 12:43 AM
I think he has put a lot of pressure on himself. You can see it in his at bats. I hope Walk can get his head on straight, build some confidence and do something. But, even if he does...where would he play?Wasn't he on schedule to make the team by 2002? Then he hurt his foot by fouling off a pitch and wasn't the same since then. If anyone else can elaborate, go ahead and quote me.

Banix12
02-08-2006, 01:06 AM
Wasn't he on schedule to make the team by 2002? Then he hurt his foot by fouling off a pitch and wasn't the same since then. If anyone else can elaborate, go ahead and quote me.

I'm not exactly sure he was on schedule to make the team in 2002. That was the year the sox signed Kenny Lofton and I think they wanted Borcard to get a year under his belt starting in AAA. Though I'm not entirely sure on that.

He did foul a pitch off his foot in 2002 and missed a month I believe. However he did put up decent numbers in AAA during 2002 and got a taste of the majors. His Batting average and OBP dropped off a bit from AA to AAA but his power was essentially the same. Since he was playing at a higher level it's probably reasonable to expect some dropoff.

Borchard fell apart in 2003, a year after the foul ball. But he seems to have mostly recovered back to 2002 levels.

To say he was never the same since I think you would have to show that he was a different hitter afterwards. He's still basically the same guy now that he was back in 2001 and 2002. 20-30 HR power, high strikeouts, low walk. All around bad plate discipline.

SOXSINCE'70
02-08-2006, 06:50 AM
Chris Snopek is going to be pissed.

So is Greg Hibbard. :D: :D:

MadetoOrta
02-08-2006, 06:56 AM
I thought we retired #27 when Ron Hassey retired ... or was that Ken Kravec?

Deuce
02-08-2006, 07:35 AM
I thought we retired #27 when Ron Hassey retired ... or was that Ken Kravec?

I'd wish we'd retire Borchard.

Hangar18
02-08-2006, 09:04 AM
Sorry to correct you Hangar, but Ken Henderson wore No. 24.

Dang, I thought it was 27. Good catch Goodman6

TDog
02-08-2006, 10:18 AM
Actually, 25 is Tommy John's old number with the Sox, last worn at the end of the 1971 season.

tacosalbarojas
02-08-2006, 12:23 PM
#27 worked for Blum, didn't it? maybe Borchard will finally have his day in the sun...It didn't really pan out for crazy Carl, though when he had the immortal #27 in first go-round with us.

Mohoney
02-08-2006, 06:00 PM
#27 worked for Blum, didn't it? maybe Borchard will finally have his day in the sun...

If Borchard hits .200 in our uniform in part-time duty, but hits a go-ahead home run in the 14th inning of Game 3 of the World Series, I'm more than willing to call it a successful season. Hell, I would call that well worth the huge signing bonus.

Vernam
02-08-2006, 07:05 PM
If Borchard hits .200 in our uniform in part-time duty, but hits a go-ahead home run in the 14th inning of Game 3 of the World Series, I'm more than willing to call it a successful season. Hell, I would call that well worth the huge signing bonus.Agreed, but the only way that moment is "in the sun" is if they start the game between about 1:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. :redneck

Technically yours,

Vernam

Goodman6
02-08-2006, 07:10 PM
Dang, I thought it was 27. Good catch Goodman6

Thanks Hangar 18. I had some second thoughts about sending the message correcting you as I do enjoy your posts and I respect your knowledge of the White Sox and the game of baseball.

Chisox003
02-08-2006, 07:13 PM
Thanks Hangar 18. I had some second thoughts about sending the message correcting you as I do enjoy your posts and I respect your knowledge of the White Sox and the game of baseball.
Hangar? Alias?

:redneck

Chicken Dinner
02-09-2006, 09:24 AM
If Borchard hits .200 in our uniform in part-time duty, but hits a go-ahead home run in the 14th inning of Game 3 of the World Series, I'm more than willing to call it a successful season. Hell, I would call that well worth the huge signing bonus.

That's a big if.........and .200 is lower than Timo's average!