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SoxFan76
02-06-2006, 03:43 PM
I'm bored. haha

These are guys that "I" have seen. Aparicio, Nellie, Jackson, they were all great but I never saw em.

Think offense, not defense.
Have fun with it, don't think you have to use the BEST players you ever saw, just who you liked to watch play.

Podsednik - LF (See why I said think O, not D?!)
Iguchi - 2b
Frank DH
Albert Belle - RF
Konerko - 1b
Ventura - 3b
Fisk - C
1-dog - CF
Uribe - SS

FarSouthSoxFan
02-06-2006, 03:52 PM
I'm bored. haha

These are guys that "I" have seen. Aparicio, Nellie, Jackson, they were all great but I never saw em.

Think offense, not defense.
Have fun with it, don't think you have to use the BEST players you ever saw, just who you liked to watch play.

Podsednik - LF (See why I said think O, not D?!)
Iguchi - 2b
Frank DH
Albert Belle - RF
Konerko - 1b
Ventura - 3b
Fisk - C
1-dog - CF
Uribe - SS

One problem here...In his time with the Sox, Belle didn;t play a single game in RF.

Gotta dump Pods for Belle and add Maggs to Right, despite my hatred for him.

sox1970
02-06-2006, 04:24 PM
I'm basing this on single season production post-1980:

1. Lance Johnson- CF 1996
2. Tadahito Iguchi- 2B 2005
3. Frank Thomas-1B 1994
4. Albert Belle-LF 1998
5. Julio Franco-DH 1994
6. Harold Baines-RF 1985
7. Carlton Fisk-C 1985
8. Robin Ventura-3B 1996
9. Ozzie Guillen-SS 1990

csufsoxfan
02-06-2006, 05:00 PM
if your going all time you better get nellie fox and shoeless in their

y2j2785
02-06-2006, 05:05 PM
if your going all time you better get nellie fox and shoeless in their

Yea you need Shoeless Joe and Nellie in there, and where is Luis Aparicio?

SoxFan76
02-06-2006, 05:08 PM
One problem here...In his time with the Sox, Belle didn;t play a single game in RF.

Gotta dump Pods for Belle and add Maggs to Right, despite my hatred for him.

Podsednik has been a great leadoff man in his....1 year with the sox. lol....I could put Lance Johnson in there I suppose.

I looked up Belle's career stats, he played right field, maybe not with the Sox, but he did play right field.

However, everyone seems to be ignoring what I put at the beginning of my first post.

These are guys that "I" have seen. Aparicio, Nellie, Jackson, they were all great but I never saw em.

Think offense, not defense.
Have fun with it, don't think you have to use the BEST players you ever saw, just who you liked to watch play.

gobears1987
02-06-2006, 05:25 PM
C Pudge
DH Baines
1B Big Hurt (sorry Paulie)
2B Fox
SS Little Louie (although Appling is a close 2nd)
3B Rockin Robin
LF Shoeless (Pods is good, but he doesn't have teh 3rd highest BA of all time)
CF Lance Johnson
RF Maggs (I hate him, but he was good.)

I haven't seen them all, but seeing how I'm young my list would be primarily current players and I wanted to make a true all time list here. I mean I haven't seen enough to really make a great list.

HChappasJr
02-06-2006, 05:34 PM
if your going all time you better get nellie fox and shoeless in their


Wow, you saw Shoeless Joe Jackson play? Was he really as good as they say?

Anyway, back to reality...

1B Thomas
2B Durham
SS Guillen
3B Ventura
LF Belle
CF Lemon
RF Ordonez
C Fisk
DH Baines

ondafarm
02-06-2006, 06:01 PM
My list:

C: Pudge
1B Thomas
2B Fox
SS Appling (by a mile over Apparicio)
3B Melton
LF Jackson
CF Landis
RF Magglio

Bobby Thigpen
02-06-2006, 06:11 PM
C- AJ (probably because I only caught the last few years of Fisk and they weren't all that great)
1b- Pauly
2b- Tadahito
SS- Ozzie
3b- Robin
LF- Ivan Calderon
CF- One Dog
RF- Maggs (even though I now wish him a severe case of creeping death)
DH- Frank

SoxFan76
02-06-2006, 06:22 PM
Wow, you saw Shoeless Joe Jackson play? Was he really as good as they say?

Anyway, back to reality...

1B Thomas
2B Durham
SS Guillen
3B Ventura
LF Belle
CF Lemon
RF Ordonez
C Fisk
DH Baines

Phew, at least someone gets it. I thought I was just going crazy and nobody could understand what I meant. haha

Chet Lemon, good one. I never knew who he was until a couple years ago. :redface: I asked my dad about him, he said Lemon was one of his favorites growing up.

fusillirob1983
02-06-2006, 06:27 PM
1B Thomas
2B Iguchi
SS Guillen
3B Ventura
C Fisk
RF Ordonez
CF Lance Johnson
LF Belle
DH Baines

thomas35forever
02-06-2006, 07:15 PM
My all-time lineup from the past 10 years:

C - Pierzynski
1B - Thomas
2B - Durham
SS - Uribe
3B - Ventura
LF - Lee
CF - Rowand
RF - Ordonez
DH - Baines

SP - Buehrle
SP - Loaiza
SP - Baldwin
SP - Garland
SP - Alvarez
CP - Foulke

MUsoxfan
02-06-2006, 07:17 PM
My all-time lineup from the past 10 years:


CP - Foulke

I think it might be worth it to go back a couple more years so you can have Thigpen on your team

Chisox003
02-06-2006, 07:18 PM
Some of these were really tough to decide, so I couldn't pick just one player...

So the best that I've actually seen, and remember:

C Jorge Fabregas/Mike Lavalliere
1B Brian Daubach
2B Craig Grebeck
SS Norberto Martin
3B Chris Snopek/Nawton
LF Lyle Mouton/Tony Phillips
RF Danny Tartabul
CF Mike Deveraux/Darren Lewis
DH Dan Pasqua

SP Jamie Navarro
SP Todd Richie
SP Doug Drabek
SP David Wells
RP Rick White
RP Mike Jackson
CL Billy Koch

Manager Terry Bevingtion

MUsoxfan
02-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Some of these were really tough to decide, so I couldn't pick just one player...

So the best that I've actually seen, and remember:

C Jorge Fabregas/Mike Lavalliere
1B Brian Daubach
2B Craig Grebeck
SS Norberto Martin
3B Chris Snopek/Nawton
LF Lyle Mouton/Tony Phillips
RF Danny Tartabul
CF Mike Deveraux/Darren Lewis
DH Dan Pasqua

SP Jamie Navarro
SP Todd Richie
SP Doug Drabek
SP David Wells
RP Rick White
RP Mike Jackson
CL Billy Koch

Manager Terry Bevingtion


:kneeslap::kneeslap::kneeslap:

BNLSox
02-06-2006, 07:35 PM
Thought I'd take a stab at this but then I realized that my team looked like this:

LF Pods
CF Rowand
RF Dye
3rd Crede
SS Uribe
2nd Iguchi
1st Konerko
C Pierzynski
DH Everett

Because frankly, I LOVE the '05 squad and always will!

Chisox003
02-06-2006, 07:56 PM
Thought I'd take a stab at this but then I realized that my team looked like this:

LF Pods
CF Rowand
RF Dye
3rd Crede
SS Uribe
2nd Iguchi
1st Konerko
C Pierzynski
DH Everett

Because frankly, I LOVE the '05 squad and always will!
Ha ha, funny how that works eh? The whole "championship" thing .... I started mine serious, too, and it ended up looking a lot like that.

The 2005 White Sox .... awesome

samram
02-06-2006, 07:57 PM
Ok, if it's only players I've seen play and that I liked watching, it would be:

1. Tim Raines, LF
2. Tadahito Iguchi, 2B
3. Frank Thomas, DH
4. Harold Baines, RF
5. Magglio Ordonez, CF
6. Robin Ventura, 3B
7. Carlton Fisk, C
8. Greg Walker, 1B
9. Juan Uribe, SS

Honorable mention to Ray Durham, Julio Franco, and Mike Cameron

santo=dorf
02-06-2006, 08:03 PM
I think it might be worth it to go back a couple more years so you can have Thigpen on your team
Foulke was better, a lot better.

soxfan43
02-06-2006, 08:04 PM
C -Fisk
1B - Paulie
2B - I loved Ray Durham
3B - Robin was great, but I gotta go with Joe on this one, so clutch
SS - Ozzie
OF- Timmy Raines
OF -Lance Johnson
OF - Carlos Lee
DH - Big Frank
SP - Black Jack
RP - Jenks

RememberDaAlomar
02-06-2006, 08:13 PM
Some of these were really tough to decide, so I couldn't pick just one player...

So the best that I've actually seen, and remember:

C Jorge Fabregas/Mike Lavalliere
1B Brian Daubach
2B Craig Grebeck
SS Norberto Martin
3B Chris Snopek/Nawton
LF Lyle Mouton/Tony Phillips
RF Danny Tartabul
CF Mike Deveraux/Darren Lewis
DH Dan Pasqua

SP Jamie Navarro
SP Todd Richie
SP Doug Drabek
SP David Wells
RP Rick White
RP Mike Jackson
CL Billy Koch

Manager Terry Bevingtion

Since this is based on only offense, why not go with Clayton at SS?

The Critic
02-06-2006, 08:20 PM
Some of my favorites (not necessarily the best players I've seen):

C - AJ Pierzynski
1B - Dick Allen
2B - Jorge Orta
SS - Ozzie Guillen ( should I be ashamed that Bill Almon came to mind??? :redneck )
3B - Bill Melton
LF - Ivan Calderon
CF - Rudy Law
RF - Harold Baines
DH - Frank Thomas
SP - Mark Buerhle, Wilbur Wood, LaMarr Hoyt, Mike Sirotka
RP - Bobby Thigpen, Rich Gossage, Terry Forster, Shingo Takatsu

soxinem1
02-06-2006, 09:50 PM
My all-time lineup from the past 10 years:

C - Pierzynski
1B - Thomas
2B - Durham
SS - Uribe
3B - Ventura
LF - Lee
CF - Rowand
RF - Ordonez
DH - Baines

SP - Buehrle
SP - Loaiza
SP - Baldwin
SP - Garland
SP - Alvarez
CP - Foulke

Good recent list, but Baldwin and Loaiza over Alex Fernandez and Mike Sirotka?

I always liked Foulke, but Roberto Hernandez did more for the Sox.

Save McCuddy's
02-06-2006, 10:00 PM
These are honestly the best by position in my opinion in our history.

1B Dick Allen
2B Ray Durham
SS Luke Appling
3B Robin
LF Shoeless Joe
CF Chet the Jet
RF Harold
DH Thomas
C Fisk

SP Wilbur Wood
SP Early Wynn
SP Pierce
SP Buehrle

RP Foulke

FarSouthSoxFan
02-06-2006, 10:05 PM
I looked up Belle's career stats, he played right field, maybe not with the Sox, but he did play right field.


How does that matter? He didn't a single game in right for the Sox. Not one. Therefore, making him your all-time Sox right fielder is just plain retarded. That's exactly like calling Frank Thomas the best Sox shortstop in history. It just doesn't work on any level.

Belle played 254 games in right field...For the Orioles.

samram
02-06-2006, 10:12 PM
How does that matter? He didn't a single game in right for the Sox. Not one. Therefore, making him your all-time Sox right fielder is just plain retarded. That's exactly like calling Frank Thomas the best Sox shortstop in history. It just doesn't work on any level.

Belle played 254 games in right field...For the Orioles.

Yes. Obvisouly the disconnect between RF and LF is similar to the one between 1B and SS. Teriffic point. The guy said in his first post he was making a lineup of guys he liked watching. Just relax.

mccombe_35
02-06-2006, 10:13 PM
These are honestly the best by position in my opinion in our history.

1B Dick Allen
2B Ray Durham
SS Luke Appling
3B Robin
LF Shoeless Joe
CF Chet the Jet
RF Harold
DH Thomas
C Fisk

SP Wilbur Wood
SP Early Wynn
SP Pierce
SP Buehrle

RP Foulke

all time ya gotta go with Collins or Fox at 2B. I'd put Frank at 1B, & Harold at DH, & Magglio in right. also, not sure what OF position Minoso played - before my time. Some old time pitchers should probably get in there also. Lyons, Faber, & Walsh are the 3 Sox pitchers with the most wins & i think they are all HOFers too.

as for my favs - I go back 15 - 20 years.

1B Frank
2B Durham
SS Guillen
3B Robin
RF Magglio
CF Lance Johnson
LF Raines
C Fisk
DH Baines

P Buehrle
P McDowell

Save McCuddy's
02-06-2006, 10:25 PM
all time ya gotta go with Collins or Fox at 2B. I'd put Frank at 1B, & Harold at DH, & Magglio in right. also, not sure what OF position Minoso played - before my time. Some old time pitchers should probably get in there also. Lyons, Faber, & Walsh are the 3 Sox pitchers with the most wins & i think they are all HOFers too.


Agreed -- Eddie Collins is our best at 2nd. I sometimes forget him due to the great part of his career with the A's. Love Minnie -- he's a stud, but unfortunately playing left leaves him shy of Shoeless Joe. Minnie's in if banned players are out.

Where we'll have to differ entirely is with Magglio. If anyone leaves for Magglio it's not Allen. Allen And Thomas are head and shoulders the best hitters in our history. I'd give you Magglio, but it would be at Harold's expense. And I just like Harold too much for that.

I don't know if it's old time pitching or what, but Lyons was consistently walking more guys than he k'ed. Thanks for the memories, but I went with guys in the eras that I have some grasp of.

dugwood31
02-06-2006, 10:43 PM
Here goes

C- Fisk
1B-Frank Thomas
2B-Ray Durham
SS-Oswaldo
3B-Ventura
LF-Ron Kittle
CF-Lance Johnson
RF-Saint Harold
DH-Luzinski

SP-Buehrle
SP-Dotson
SP-Alvarez
SP-Fernandez
SP-Britt Burns

closer-Roberto Hernandez

Britt Burns
02-07-2006, 12:16 AM
with the year I would take them from:

C- Fisk '83
1B-Frank '94
2B-Ray '01
3B-Robin '96
SS-Valentin '00 (Ozzie '90 fills in at D in late innings)
LF-Belle '98 (Grrr...hate to inlude him, but damn that 2nd half was something)
CF-One Dog '95 (L/R platoon with Rowand '04)
RF-Maggs '02
DH-Harold '84

SP-Black Jack '93
SP-Seaver '85
SP-Buerhle '05
SP-Loaiza '03
SP-Fernandez '96
CL-Thigpen '90
RP-Foulke '99
RP-Barry Jones '90
LOOGY-Radinski '91

Rudy Law
02-07-2006, 12:33 AM
2B- Nellie Fox
LF- Joe Jackson
DH- Frank Thomas
1B- Paul Konerko
3B- Robin Ventura
C- Carlton Fisk
RF- Harold Baines
CF- Minnie Minoso
SS- Luis Aparicio


Joe Jackson would be the ultimate 2nd hitter

fozzy
02-07-2006, 12:52 AM
well for the players i've seen my line-up would be

cf- rudy law
2b- ray durham
1b- frank thomas
lf-albert belle
dh- richie zisk
rf- maggs
c- fisk
3b- ventura
ss- ozzie

sp- blackjack
sp- hoyt
sp- dotson
sp- buherle
sp- contreas

rp- bobby jenks ( i know there are better picks but i dont care

i hate leaving harold off but he never had the monster year that frank, mags or zisk had.

FarSouthSoxFan
02-07-2006, 03:27 AM
These are honestly the best by position in my opinion in our history.

1B Dick Allen
2B Ray Durham
SS Luke Appling
3B Robin
LF Shoeless Joe
CF Chet the Jet
RF Harold
DH Thomas
C Fisk

SP Wilbur Wood
SP Early Wynn
SP Pierce
SP Buehrle

RP Foulke

For a true all-time list, I gotta point out a coupld of things...

1. Wouldn't Collins or Fox beat the snot out of Ray for second base?

2. Hoyt Wilhelm, Red Faber, Eddie Cicotte all beg for consideration at pitcher.
3. I love me some Wilbah Wood! :bandance:

Save McCuddy's
02-07-2006, 09:01 AM
Already addressed the Collins omission. My bad -- but no, I don't take Fox. If you want the league leader in singles with zero speed and less power you can have him. Love the little fella and will always remain amazed by how he won an MVP, but Collins is the runaway choice here.

Orta 4-6-3
02-07-2006, 11:48 AM
LF Tim Raines
2B Tagahito Iguchi
DH Frank Thomas
1B Dick Allen
3B Robin Ventura
RF Magglio Ordonez
C Carlton Fisk
CF Ken Berry
SS Luis Aparicio

SP Tommy John
SP Wilbur Wood
SP Lamar Hoyt
SP Jack McDowell
SP Mark Burhle

RP Roberto Hernandez

Domeshot17
02-07-2006, 12:00 PM
LF "The Rock" Tim Raines
2b Tadahito
1b Konerko
DH Thomas
RF Baines
C Pudge
3b Ventura
Cf Rowand
SS Ozzie



SP - Buehrle
SP - BLACK JACK
SP - Conteras
SP - Alex Fernandez
SP - Ed Walsh ( gotta show love the a guy with 195 wins and a 1.82 career ERA no matter what era)
rp Ed Farmer
rp Roberto Hernandez
rp Cotts
rp Foulke
CL Thigpen

BENCH
Albert Belle
Minnie Minoso
Joe Crede
Bill Melton
RON KARKOVICE(defined winning ugly)

ondafarm
02-07-2006, 12:03 PM
Already addressed the Collins omission. My bad -- but no, I don't take Fox. If you want the league leader in singles with zero speed and less power you can have him. Love the little fella and will always remain amazed by how he won an MVP, but Collins is the runaway choice here.

Gee, glad to hear you bashing a White Sox HOF er.

Fox had 35 career homers. Collins 47 career homers. The rates are: Collins one every 70.5 at-bats, Fox one every 76 at bats.

Fox struck out only 216 times in his career was an amazing hit and run guy, played incredible defense and was possibly the best bunter in the history of baseball. Collins never turned more than 84 double plays in a year, Fox exceeded that number 13 straight years including 10 years with over 100.

Amazed that he won the MVP are you? The MVP is supposed to be the player most important to his team's success. Fox was easily the most important player on the White Sox team which amazingly won the pennant in 1959. What's amazing is that Al Lopez kept him out of the Hall of Fame as long as he did.

Collins contributed but my grandfather saw both of these players in their primes and he always said Fox would have taken Collins spot on the 1919 team in a heartbeat.

ChiSoxPatF
02-07-2006, 04:31 PM
2B - Collins .331 31-804-368
SS - Appling .310 45-1,116-179
LF - Jackson .340 30-426-64
DH - Thomas .307 448-1,465-32
1B - Allen .307 85-242-33
RF - Maggs .307 187-703-82
C - Fisk .257 214-762-67
3B - Melton .258 154-535-20
CF - Landis .250 83-398-127

SP - Walsh 195-125 1.81
SP - Faber 254-213 3.15
SP - Lyons 260-230 3.67
SP - Cicotte 156-101 2.25
SP - Buehrle 85-63 3.63

CL - Thigpen 3.26 201Sv

*Stats are while in a Sox uniform but consideration is taken for the amount of production for the timespan which they played for the Sox.
Gotta throw Buerhle in there for the career he is capable of having and as my wild-card pick.

I'm not sure of Melton's defensive prowess but this seems to be the most balance all-time team I could come up with. Landis is the ? - could also be One Dog or some other CF depending on other factors needed (Law for example).

misty60481
02-07-2006, 05:23 PM
Cant leave Billy Pierce off all time team---
1B--Allen
2B--Collins
SS--Appling
3B--Ventura
LF--Belle
CF--Landis
RF--Jackson
DH---Thomas

SP--Lyons
SP--Walsh
SP--Pierce
SP--Buerhe

RP--Wilhelm
RP--Thigpen

Bench
Fox
Minoso
Apparicio

kevingrt
02-07-2006, 05:49 PM
Out of the guys I remember and have seen here goes, I'm only 18 too.

LF- Scott Podsednik
2B- Ray Durham
DH- Frank Thomas
RF- Magglio Ordonez
1B- Paul Konerko
3B- Robin Ventura
LF- Tim Raines
C- AJ P
SS- Ozzie

SP- Mark Burehle
SP- Blackjack McDowell
SP- Jose Contreras
SP- Mike Sortka (1 year)
SP- Alex Fernandez

RP- Keith Foulke
RP- Bobby Jenks (add him in 3 years)
RP- Neal Cotts
CL- Bobby Jenks

Save McCuddy's
02-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Gee, glad to hear you bashing a White Sox HOF er.

Fox had 35 career homers. Collins 47 career homers. The rates are: Collins one every 70.5 at-bats, Fox one every 76 at bats.

Fox struck out only 216 times in his career was an amazing hit and run guy, played incredible defense and was possibly the best bunter in the history of baseball. Collins never turned more than 84 double plays in a year, Fox exceeded that number 13 straight years including 10 years with over 100.

Amazed that he won the MVP are you? The MVP is supposed to be the player most important to his team's success. Fox was easily the most important player on the White Sox team which amazingly won the pennant in 1959. What's amazing is that Al Lopez kept him out of the Hall of Fame as long as he did.

Collins contributed but my grandfather saw both of these players in their primes and he always said Fox would have taken Collins spot on the 1919 team in a heartbeat.


Eddie Collins: .331 BA .424 OBP .429 SLG and 744 SB
Nellie Fox : .288 BA .348 OBP .363 SLG and 80 SB

I was hardly bashing a hall of famer, but simply stating the case that these two are a good example of the old Sesame Street song "one of these things is not like the other".

Ever think that Al Lopez, the guy who watched Fox everyday, realized how over-rated he might have been?

ondafarm
02-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Eddie Collins: .331 BA .424 OBP .429 SLG and 744 SB
Nellie Fox : .288 BA .348 OBP .363 SLG and 80 SB

I was hardly bashing a hall of famer, but simply stating the case that these two are a good example of the old Sesame Street song "one of these things is not like the other".

Ever think that Al Lopez, the guy who watched Fox everyday, realized how over-rated he might have been?


The two played in different eras for different style teams.

Eddie Collins never led the White Sox in any major offensive category until after the 1919 players were thrown out and then he barely did.

Perhaps you have over-estimated Eddie Collins. I'm glad you cite a Sesame Street song as a source of your logic, it clearly indicates your intellectual level.

As for your last question, no.

Save McCuddy's
02-07-2006, 10:40 PM
You are the type of baseball fan that it doesn't pay to argue with.

You look at those numbers and tell me that the eras explain the difference? I wish you luck and a great year with the '06 Chisox. You can have your team, I'll take mine.

By the way, any other reason you can think of for Lopez blocking Nellie's path to the hall?

Britt Burns
02-07-2006, 11:07 PM
You are joking, right? You aren't going to make a lot of friends around here. Just sayin.

Save McCuddy's
02-07-2006, 11:15 PM
You are joking, right? You aren't going to make a lot of friends around here. Just sayin.

If clearly stating that Eddie Collins is superior to Nellie Fox is going to cost me friends on this board, then I'll take the lonely road.

Britt Burns
02-08-2006, 10:51 AM
...I said if you go around here claiming Fox is overrated you aren't going to have any friends, and for good reason. Fox was exactly the type of player who was underrated-solid, showed up to play every day, did all the little things, air tight D, took pitches to let Louie steal a base, hit behind the runner, turned the double play like very few others, and still hit for a good average, stole an occasional base, and generally gave the opposing team fits. To say nothing that for over a decade he was the face of the organization.

PennStater98r
02-08-2006, 12:00 PM
I think it might be worth it to go back a couple more years so you can have Thigpen on your team

I actually think Foulke was better than Thigpen. His WHIP was just unbelievable.

At the very least, his first year as a set-up man would be the year to use for your set-up guy. I think he had a WHIP of like 0.87 or something.

Sox-on-TV44
02-08-2006, 01:01 PM
Scott Podsednik-LF
Chet Lemon-CF
Paul Konerko-1B
Carlton Fisk-C
Nellie Fox-2B
Luis Aprarico-SS
Harold Baines-RF
Robin Ventura-3B
Frank Thomas-DH

Starting Pitcher-Wilbur Wood

Other pitchers in the rotation
Starters:
Mark Burehle
Jack McDowell
Billy Pierce
LaMarr Hoyt

Relief Pitchers
Ed Farmer
Neal Cotts
Bobby Jenks
Rich "Goose" Gossage
Bobby Thigpen (Closer)

Bench:
Minnie Minoso-DH,OF
AJ Pierzynski-C
Ozzie Guillen-SS
Maggio Ordonez-OF
Dick Allen-1B
Bill Melton-3B

Manager:Al Lopez

PennStater98r
02-08-2006, 03:19 PM
For a true all-time list, I gotta point out a coupld of things...

1. Wouldn't Collins or Fox beat the snot out of Ray for second base?

2. Hoyt Wilhelm, Red Faber, Eddie Cicotte all beg for consideration at pitcher.
3. I love me some Wilbah Wood! :bandance:

Anyone heard of Lefty Williams?

PennStater98r
02-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Here's mine:

All time

Nellie Fox - 2B (Didn't Early Wynn finish runner up in the 1959 MVP race)
"Shoeless" Joe Jackson - RF (he played a little RF in Chicago)
Frank Thomas - DH
Albert Belle - LF
Robin Ventura - 3B
Dick Allen - 1B
Happy Felcsh - CF (1920 season of course)
Carlton Fisk - C
Luke Appling - SS

SP1 - "Big" Ed Walsh
SP2 - Eddie Cicotte
SP3 - Billy Pierce
SP4 - Lefty Williams
SP5 - LaMarr Hoyt

RP - Jack McDowell remember the first season he came up?)
RP - Bobby Thigpen
RP - Cisco Carlos
Setup - Keith Foulke
Closer - Hoyt Wilhelm

Names we have left off the lists

Frank Smith
Doc White
Esteban Loaiza (remember this guy nearly took the pitching triple crown - he was 1 win away and Pedro barely slipped in with IP to get the ERA crown - though Hudson had a 2.70 to Loaiza's 2.90)

PennStater98r
02-08-2006, 03:58 PM
In my lifetime (that I've seen):

Lance Johnson - CF
Tim Raines - LF
Frank Thomas - DH
Paul Konerko - 1B
Robin Ventura - 3B
Harold Baines - RF
Carlton Fisk - C
Ray Durham - 2B
Ozzie Guillen - SS

SP1 - LaMarr Hoyt
SP2 - Esteban Loaiza
SP3 - Tom Seaver
SP4 - Jack McDowell
SP5 - Britt Burns

RP - Bobby Thigpen
RP - Roberto Hernandez
RP - Orlando Hernandez (based solely on his ALDS appearance)
Setup - Damaso Marte
Closer - Keith Foulke

Now I know that I left Belle of the list, but I felt we had plenty of bangers in the middle, and it didn't feel right to leave off a couple of the really good seasons that Rock had on the South Side. Tony Phillips had a couple of good years too!

miker
02-08-2006, 06:11 PM
...and basing it strictly on the "O" and not the "D":

C - Carlton Fisk
1B - Paul Konerko
2B - Julio Cruz (the second half of '83)
SS - Jose Valentin
3B - Robin Ventura
LF - Joey "Albert" Belle
CF - Lance Johnson
RF - Magglio Ordonez
DH - Frank Thomas

If I was trying to win a championship, a few of these guys would have to get cut...

ondafarm
02-08-2006, 06:17 PM
The guys I've seen:

C Fisk
1B Allen
2B Tony Bernazrd
SS Bucky Dent
3B Bill Melton
LF Ron Kittle
CF Chet Lemon
RF Ordonez
DH Frank Thomas

MUsoxfan
02-08-2006, 06:27 PM
I'd put Ted Kluszewski on my team, but that's my homer pick. I know he only played about 110 games with the Sox, but he was a southsider from my hometown that hit 2 HR's in Game 1 of the 59 Series.

miker
02-08-2006, 06:31 PM
I'd put Ted Kluszewski on my team, but that's my homer pick. I know he only played about 110 games with the Sox, but he was a southsider from my hometown that hit 2 HR's in Game 1 of the 59 Series.
How about an all-time "one-hit wonder" lineup with players who had a single great season in a White Sox uniform?