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JoeItalia7
02-03-2006, 10:21 AM
here's a little link i found on mlb.com talking about the al central. It shows the believed placement of all the teams, weakness's strengths's etc...

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060202&content_id=1305274&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp
(http://http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article_perspectives.jsp?ymd=20060202&content_id=1305274&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp)

spiffie
02-03-2006, 10:31 AM
You have one too many "http://" references in your link.

daveeym
02-03-2006, 10:36 AM
Wild card: Injuries could be the Achilles' heel for the Sox, and while the injury risk exists for any team, it is usually greater on a team with as many older pitchers as Chicago has on the roster (at least six pitchers will be 30 or older sometime in 2006 and their average age is 33) and a few others, like Bobby Jenks and Dustin Hermansen, have spent time on the disabled list in recent years.:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

Flight #24
02-03-2006, 11:21 AM
:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

Let's see. You could also phrase that as "only 1 of their top 9 pitchers is older than 31" (Contreras out of the 6 SPs, with Hermanson being the 4th RP behind Jenks-Cotts-Politte). Or "only 3 over 30". Or "Their dominant starting pitching includes 3 guys 26 or younger".

ondafarm
02-03-2006, 11:39 AM
I get an average age of 27 years 5 months from these twelve guys. Maybe they added Don Cooper into their calculations (if he's 60, then it moves the average up to about 33.)

BNLSox
02-03-2006, 11:51 AM
Yeah, their math is crazy, but they do seem to see that despite improvements across the division the White Sox are an amazing team that improved itself this off season and has a great shot at getting back to the playoffs.

Once you're in those playoffs its all a crap shoot. I don't think we can ever expect dominant pitching like that again in our lifetime. But who knows, Maybe 11-1 in the postseason is about to become an annual event on the Southside!!

caulfield12
02-03-2006, 12:08 PM
:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

They must have been counting El Duque, Vizcaino and Marte.

Flight #24
02-03-2006, 12:18 PM
They must have been counting El Duque, Vizcaino and Marte.

Then their #s are low because using that methodology, you'd HAVE to add in Loaiza, Koch, and Jerry Reuss to that mix.

White Sox Randy
02-03-2006, 12:42 PM
That's the most obviously false thing ever said about the Sox.

Maybe he confused them with another team.

Or, maybe he meant that the average age of Hermanson is 33.

JoeItalia7
02-03-2006, 12:47 PM
Well lets face it, you dont really need alot of math to be a journalist :D:

PorkChopExpress
02-03-2006, 01:02 PM
:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

They were probably using Contreras' actual age of 95.

FarSouthSoxFan
02-03-2006, 01:22 PM
You read it here first ... 1) Thome tops 35 home runs and 100 RBIs en route to Comeback Player of the Year honors.

I likey.

munchman33
02-03-2006, 01:44 PM
3) If Detroit gets at least 135 games apiece from Ivan Rodriguez, Carlos Guillen, Placido Polanco, Dmitri Young and Magglio Ordonez, the Tigers will finish above .500.

I wouldn't bet on any of those players playing 100 games.

DSpivack
02-03-2006, 02:08 PM
But who knows, Maybe 11-1 in the postseason is about to become an annual event on the Southside!!

You're a dark cloud. They won't lose any.

samram
02-03-2006, 07:39 PM
I wouldn't bet on any of those players playing 100 games.

Polanco and Guillen will, if for other reason than they're on my crappy fantasy team. They wouldn't want to let me down.

ChiSoxIn06
02-03-2006, 08:35 PM
You read it here first ... 1) Thome tops 35 home runs and 100 RBIs en route to Comeback Player of the Year honors.

is it just my imagination or is this a POSITIVE remark about the Sox getting Thome? I thought he was injury prone.

4th Gen. Sox Fan
02-03-2006, 08:42 PM
is it just my imagination or is this a POSITIVE remark about the Sox getting Thome? I thought he was injury prone.:tealtutor:

Beer Can Chicken
02-03-2006, 11:15 PM
I'll take Detroit over Cleveland and especially Minnesota. You read it here first.

jehosaphat
02-05-2006, 12:32 PM
:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

He must be figuring that the Sox will be bringing back Minnie as a pitcher this year once they wrap up the division on July 23rd! :bandance: Hope he's right!

nedlug
02-05-2006, 03:06 PM
:?: :?: I only count 5 as turning 30 or older and the average is no way 33.


Jeff Bajenaru (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7444) 27
Mark Buehrle (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6525) 26
Jose Contreras (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7043) 34
Neal Cotts (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7209) 25
Freddy Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6168) 29
Jon Garland (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6396) 26
Dustin Hermanson (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5387) 33
Bobby Jenks (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7285) 24
Brandon McCarthy (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7484) 22
Arnie Munoz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7358) 23
Cliff Politte (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5960) 31
Javier Vazquez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947) 29

I see where they were going with that quote... "at least six pitchers will be 30 or older sometime in 2006 and their average age is 33" = average age of 33 is for the six pitchers over 30.

chisoxmike
02-05-2006, 05:04 PM
I'll take Detroit over Cleveland and especially Minnesota. You read it here first.

If they have a injury free season, they'll be tough.

Half Cocked Jack
02-06-2006, 01:11 AM
I think its possible this might be a breakout season for Detroit. They've got three young arms with a lot of potential, a pen full of fireballers, and lots of bats in their lineup. The Indians also look really damn good. Should be fun to watch. I think Minnesota isn't going to be a factor at all, and do I even need to mention KC?

daveeym
02-06-2006, 10:24 AM
I see where they were going with that quote... "at least six pitchers will be 30 or older sometime in 2006 and their average age is 33" = average age of 33 is for the six pitchers over 30. I thought that for a second too and either way they're still off. only 5 will be over 30 and using they're old ages the average is still only 32.2. Either way he's a moron.

SOXSINCE'70
02-07-2006, 07:03 AM
Then their #s are low because using that methodology, you'd HAVE to add in Loaiza, Koch, and Jerry Reuss to that mix.

Don't forget Tom Seaver,Floyd Bannister,Rich Dotson and LaMarr Hoyt.
Do Joel Horlen and Gary Peters still count??:rolling: :rolling:

TDog
02-07-2006, 09:46 AM
You're a dark cloud. They won't lose any.

A lot of MLB teams didn't lose any postseason games last year. Only one team only lost one.