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kruzer31
01-31-2006, 10:28 PM
When my father was younger , him and his buddies used to have a club where they would all go and hang out , play pool, darts, drink, watch the games. They rented out a place where they were able to put a bar in and customize the place to there liking. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in looking into creating a White Sox clubhouse where we could all gather and create a membership with dues , etc. There are so many of us here that im sure we could afford the rent and turn the place into a Sox museum with some nice big TVs to have a place to gather with Sox fans. Of course we would be a non profit organization where we wouldnt need a liquor license. We could put in a pool table, have a bar, maybe a Golden T arcade machine and decorate the place with tons of Sox memorabilia and it would be a great place to gather and get away from the wives from time to time. I am not sure of the legalities but I have been looking into this idea for a few months now and just wanted to the see the interest level here on this board. Maybe we can create a board and have an initial meeting where we could throw out ideas and see what happens. We can have our own Softball team and do fundraisers , etc. Make this city bleeed Silver and Black.

Looking for feedback and opinions and ideas on this

Jeff

gr8mexico
01-31-2006, 10:44 PM
I think it would be a great Idea especially if you a couple of small clubs around the city. Then having alot of the groups facing each other in softball games to raise money.

chisoxfanatic
01-31-2006, 10:59 PM
Hal Vickery is part of the group called Windy City Sox Fans. It's a club which meets in the very heart of Soxdom--Bridgeport!

voodoochile
02-01-2006, 12:29 AM
You cannot get a liquor license for a private club until it has been active for at least two years. You should be very very careful about this too because these types of ideas are magnets for underage drinkers and you will be liable if they get served.

You'd be better off just having a rotating party at various people's houses/apartments, but good luck if you choose to go the other direction. I would just be very careful about setting it up based on an open forum like this one. The risks are numerous...

Realist
02-01-2006, 01:14 AM
You cannot get a liquor license for a private club until it has been active for at least two years. You should be very very careful about this too because these types of ideas are magnets for underage drinkers and you will be liable if they get served.

You'd be better off just having a rotating party at various people's houses/apartments, but good luck if you choose to go the other direction. I would just be very careful about setting it up based on an open forum like this one. The risks are numerous...

What about renting a space right next to a liquor store and having it BYOB for the next 2 years?

The dues would have to cover the pay of security to be on duty when the place is open. Card hard and have the door staff trained in checking I.D.'s. The State of Illinois will train them for free.

CLR01
02-01-2006, 01:33 AM
Why not just take over Two By Fours offices? He's already got some Sox stuff on the walls, pool table, beer, and a T.V. It will be a very smooth transition.



ummm....teal.

voodoochile
02-01-2006, 01:51 AM
What about renting a space right next to a liquor store and having it BYOB for the next 2 years?

The dues would have to cover the pay of security to be on duty when the place is open. Card hard and have the door staff trained in checking I.D.'s. The State of Illinois will train them for free.

The problem is that private clubs can exclude people for any number of reasons, so it became hard to get a liquor license to prevent people from opening private clubs and being able to say, "We don't serve blacks or women or Jews or etc." So they made it very difficult to get a license for one.

No, you could not get around it by making it BYOB, you won't be able to have liquor on the premesis without a license to serve. You still need a license for people to be able to drink their own booze it's called a corkage license (IIRC) and it is regulated by the same people who regulate regular liquor licenses.

You all would be better off picking a regular bar and descending on it weekly or daily or monthly until they decide to put aside space for you every time. Many sports bars will do something like that. For example Joes on Weed St. has a huge Steeler's group that comes in every Sunday for the game. They get up to 200 people and they take over the entire front room. They don't even seat fans from the team the Steelers are playing in that room (Joe's tried for a while, but too many fights broke out - Steelers fans are nuts). If you can get enough people to make a private club financially feasible, you could do something similar much more easily at a local bar, provided you always go back to the same one and let them know what night you will be coming.

Heck, Lizzie McGuire's is owned by a WSI member and I am sure they would be willing to accomodate a regular get together if you wanted to arrange it.

I know... I know... you all can never agree on a location that works for everyone. Thing is, that problem will still exist with your private club idea.

buehrle4cy05
02-01-2006, 06:54 AM
You could call it a hunting club...which, by law, is allowed to serve beverages of "a refreshing nature". Then you could invite R.E.M. to your garage.:tongue:

eastchicagosoxfan
02-01-2006, 08:09 AM
When my father was younger , him and his buddies used to have a club where they would all go and hang out , play pool, darts, drink, watch the games. They rented out a place where they were able to put a bar in and customize the place to there liking. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in looking into creating a White Sox clubhouse where we could all gather and create a membership with dues , etc. There are so many of us here that im sure we could afford the rent and turn the place into a Sox museum with some nice big TVs to have a place to gather with Sox fans. Of course we would be a non profit organization where we wouldnt need a liquor license. We could put in a pool table, have a bar, maybe a Golden T arcade machine and decorate the place with tons of Sox memorabilia and it would be a great place to gather and get away from the wives from time to time. I am not sure of the legalities but I have been looking into this idea for a few months now and just wanted to the see the interest level here on this board. Maybe we can create a board and have an initial meeting where we could throw out ideas and see what happens. We can have our own Softball team and do fundraisers , etc. Make this city bleeed Silver and Black.

Looking for feedback and opinions and ideas on this

Jeff
I belong to such a club in Indiana. I don't know what the laws are in Illinios, but these types of organizations are expensive to run ( hence why clubs are struggling ) and require a lot of volunteer time on the part of the members to make them work. Members have to manage the bar, bartend, which is a real bore when the place is empty, maintain the facility, pay to have the lot plowed in the winter, have someone there to accept deliveries, etc. There are several technical differences concerning who can drink at the bar, and who can't. These differences interest the excise police.
If you want to have a club like your dad had, buy your own bar, and meld it in your image. Or use Vodoo's idea, and set up regular meetings at local establishments. A club has to serve the needs of a community in ways that aren't being met as way to attract members. I'd go on, but I'm out of time, and would just ramble on anyway.

Fake Chet Lemon
02-01-2006, 08:19 AM
I think it sounds great in theory, but the execution would be extremely difficult. When you have to start getting MONEY from people on a regular basis for anything, that's when things usually fall apart.

34 Inch Stick
02-01-2006, 12:38 PM
Here are another few burdens to overcome: buying a building, converting the building, maintaining insurance, setting up the not for profit, collecting dues.

Voodoo, I think you mean Lizzie Mc Neil's as Mc Guire is the character played by the attention seeking :dtroll: look alike Hillary Duff.

Who owns it by the way?

BV2005
02-01-2006, 03:21 PM
You could call it a hunting club...which, by law, is allowed to serve beverages of "a refreshing nature". Then you could invite R.E.M. to your garage.:tongue:

:rolling: great Simpsons refrence

StockdaleForVeep
02-01-2006, 03:26 PM
Daver or Voodoo could build a casino treehouse for us
:)

ws05champs
02-01-2006, 07:05 PM
You all would be better off picking a regular bar and descending on it weekly or daily or monthly until they decide to put aside space for you every time. Many sports bars will do something like that. . . .

Heck, Lizzie McGuire's is owned by a WSI member and I am sure they would be willing to accomodate a regular get together if you wanted to arrange it.

I know... I know... you all can never agree on a location that works for everyone. Thing is, that problem will still exist with your private club idea.

I think that's the way to go. There are plenty of bars/restaurants that have private rooms and will let you have them for free if enough people come and buy food and booze. Its gets away from all the legal and financial problems. We could even rotate it (one month on the south side, one month the western suburbs . . .). That way it's eventually close to everybody.

Stoky44
02-01-2006, 07:11 PM
My idea of WSI club = computer and case of beer.:D:

Daver
02-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Daver or Voodoo could build a casino treehouse for us
:)

The hell you say.