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MattSharp
01-05-2002, 05:52 PM
I read this on ESPN RUMOR CENTRAL:

Jan. 5: If the Mets fail in their attempt to sign Juan Gonzalez, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports an eight-player trade centered on Trammell heading back to the Mets could happen in the near future. In the reported deal, the Mets would send outfielders Benny Agbayani and Jay Payton, left-handed starter Bruce Chen and right-handed reliever Dicky Gonzalez to the Padres in exchange for Trammell, outfielder Mike Darr and right-handed starting pitchers Brian Tollberg and Jason Middlebrook. Trammell, who the Mets traded to San Diego last offseason for reliever Donne Wall, hit .261 with 25 homers and 92 RBI last year for the Padres.

If the Mets trade Agbayani and Payton, they would join Escobar, Lawton and Shinjo as OFs the Mets traded this offseason.

They would have only aquired two. Does anyone else here think that those five are a little much to give up for Trammell and Roger Cedeno?

WinningUgly!
01-05-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by MattSharp

If the Mets trade Agbayani and Payton, they would join Escobar, Lawton and Shinjo as OFs the Mets traded this offseason.

They would have only aquired two. Does anyone else here think that those five are a little much to give up for Trammell and Roger Cedeno?
Yes, since they had both guys at one point already! I kinda like Tollberg though, he has pretty good stuff & doesn't walk many. I'd take him over Chen in the rotation.

czalgosz
01-05-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by MattSharp

If the Mets trade Agbayani and Payton, they would join Escobar, Lawton and Shinjo as OFs the Mets traded this offseason.

They would have only aquired two. Does anyone else here think that those five are a little much to give up for Trammell and Roger Cedeno?

Well, Payton and Shinjo are both defensive specialists who are average at best at the plate - Chris Singleton types. Escobar is a prospect who has never quite lived up to his potential, and Agbayani has had one half of a good season in his career. Lawton is the best of those five, and he's only above-average.

I'm not saying that Trammell and Cedeno are great shakes, but the only reason we've heard of any of those Mets outfielders is that they are on the Mets. If they played for the Royals, no one would care about them.

MattSharp
01-06-2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by czalgosz


Well, Payton and Shinjo are both defensive specialists who are average at best at the plate - Chris Singleton types. Escobar is a prospect who has never quite lived up to his potential, and Agbayani has had one half of a good season in his career. Lawton is the best of those five, and he's only above-average.

I'm not saying that Trammell and Cedeno are great shakes, but the only reason we've heard of any of those Mets outfielders is that they are on the Mets. If they played for the Royals, no one would care about them.

I agree. But Bubba Trammell is 30, and he just played his first full season. He hit .261 which sucks and 25 HRs, which isn't much these days.

Here is his rank among NL OF last year:

AVG: 31
HR: 23
RBI: 19

I suppose the guy isnt terrible, but I would rather have Payton or Escobar.

I have always thought highly of Escobar and I think the Tribe got a steal

RichH55
01-08-2002, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by MattSharp


I agree. But Bubba Trammell is 30, and he just played his first full season. He hit .261 which sucks and 25 HRs, which isn't much these days.

Here is his rank among NL OF last year:

AVG: 31
HR: 23
RBI: 19

I suppose the guy isnt terrible, but I would rather have Payton or Escobar.

I have always thought highly of Escobar and I think the Tribe got a steal

Very good points about Trammel, but anytime you are giving up Robbie Alomar the word steal doesnt generally get associated with your side of the deal

MattSharp
01-08-2002, 02:33 AM
Thanks for the praise. I agree with the comment about Alomar, but IMO he is getting up there in years. I think Escobar will be more than an ample replacement for Lofton. The Tribe has a few IF prospects, and Alomar doesn't have more than 3 years left. The Tribe has become notroious for trading away future stars (Giles, Burnitz, Sexson, I am sure there are more I can't think of now) so they need to start building for the future again.

czalgosz
01-08-2002, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by MattSharp
Thanks for the praise. I agree with the comment about Alomar, but IMO he is getting up there in years. I think Escobar will be more than an ample replacement for Lofton. The Tribe has a few IF prospects, and Alomar doesn't have more than 3 years left. The Tribe has become notroious for trading away future stars (Giles, Burnitz, Sexson, I am sure there are more I can't think of now) so they need to start building for the future again.

Yeah, John Hart did a great job over there - he built up a great organization from nothing, and then tore it down and got out of there before anyone noticed. He'll probably do the same thing in Texas.

MattSharp
01-08-2002, 02:39 AM
Haha..... :D: :D: :D: