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IronFisk
01-19-2006, 02:38 PM
Interesting piece if you didn't know.

Oh yeah, guess who actually gave us our nickname? :o:

http://www.slate.com/id/2128744/

ChiSoxLifer
01-19-2006, 02:43 PM
So did the Tribune company change the name from "Team who will never win the World Series" to "Cubs"?

soxfan13
01-19-2006, 02:43 PM
Very interesting

SOXintheBURGH
01-19-2006, 02:45 PM
Yep, then Boston's American League squadron ripped us off.

Corlose 15
01-19-2006, 02:47 PM
I guess that puts to rest the question of who the real Sox are. 1907....pfft. :cool:

TheDarkGundam
01-19-2006, 04:35 PM
Interesting, I always thought Comiskey just wanted the name to sound more "extreme".
:D:

SOXintheBURGH
01-19-2006, 05:37 PM
Interesting, I always thought Comiskey just wanted the name to sound more "extreme".
:D:

Always a good time to pull at a Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle quote:


"That was so totally NOT extreme."

"I know Extreme Punk Number One. I know.... I know."

IlliniSox4Life
01-19-2006, 05:37 PM
Oh yeah, guess who actually gave us our nickname? :o:


If I am interpreting it correctly, I would have to say that it's not like the Tribune thought of the name Sox, they just took what was common practice (shortening stockings to sox), and since they were the big newspaper in Chicago, they were the first ones to use it on the new Chicago team with the stockings name..

It's kinda like having a bunch of hot dog stands, and none of the stands sell mustard on the hot dogs. However a bunch of people always bring mustard with them and put it on the hot dogs. If a new hot dog stand opens up next door to me, and I am the first one there to get a hot dog and put mustard on it, it doesn't mean I was the one to come up with putting mustard on hot dogs, or even the one to come up with putting mustard on those hot dogs, just that I was the first one to do it to that stand because I live next to it.

Fenway
01-19-2006, 05:52 PM
I guess that puts to rest the question of who the real Sox are. 1907....pfft. :cool:

The Red Sox got their name in honor of Boston Red Stockings

The Red Stockings did well in their new city, and the team was among the founding members of the National League in 1876. They eventually changed their name to the Beaneaters (and later the Braves), and in 1907, John I. Taylor, owner of the American League's Boston Pilgrims, used the old Red Stockings name as inspiration when he changed his team's name to the Red Sox.

good thing Taylor chose that instead of Beaneaters :tongue:

downstairs
01-19-2006, 06:20 PM
Not only did the Tribune coin the spelling "Sox"... but we took the name from the Cubs (their original name being the White Stockings or White Socks)

JohnBasedowYoda
01-19-2006, 06:29 PM
Always a good time to pull at a Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle quote:


"That was so totally NOT extreme."

"I know Extreme Punk Number One. I know.... I know."

I love it when they find the pack of Xtreme Dorritos

Pureone
01-19-2006, 06:38 PM
New York's American League team was also known (http://www.barrypopik.com/article/19/yankees-american-league-baseball-team) as the Highlanders, the Invaders, and the Porchclimbers in the early 1900s

...Porchclimbers? :rolling:

Fenway
01-19-2006, 06:49 PM
...Porchclimbers? :rolling:
http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html
did you know the Cubs were once called the DESERT RANGERS?

CHICAGO CUBS Leagues: NA 1871, 1874-1875, NL 1876-> Aka: Chicago White Stockings 1876-1890, Chicago Colts 1890-1897, Chicago Orphans 1898-1901 Nicknames: Swallowtails 1888, Black Stockings 1888-1889, Anson's Colts 1887-1897, Ex-Colts 1898, Rainmakers 1894-1897, Babes 1894-1897, Cubs, Cowboys 1899, Desert Rangers 1899, Rough Riders 1899-1900, Remnants 1901-1902, Recruits 1902, Panamas 1903, Zephyrs 1905, Selee's Colts 1902-1905, Spuds 1906, Nationals 1905-1907, Trojans 1913 Franchise: Charter franchise NA. Charter franchise NL. Merged with Chicago Pirates (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#ChicagoPirates) 1891. Merged with Chicago Whales (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#ChicagoWhales) 1916. Named Anson's Colts because manager Cap Anson had starred in a silent film called "A Runaway Colt." The word also meant rookie back then. Name of Cubs used first 3/27/02 by Chicago sportswriters George Rice and Fred Hayner in Chicago Daily News. Most frequently used nicknames: White Stockings 1871, 1874-1889, Colts 1890-1897, Orphans 1898-1901, Colts 1902-1904 Cubs 1905 to date

CHICAGO WHITE SOX League: AL 1901-> Aka: Chicago White Stockings 1901-1903 Nicknames: Chisox, Pale Hose, Invaders 1901, Go-Go Sox 1959, Uniques Franchise: Charter franchise. Named White Sox by Chicago sportswriters Carl Green and I.E. Sanborn. Came from Minneapolis Millers (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#MinneapolisMillers) of WA 1900

BOSTON RED SOX (current) League: AL 1901-> Aka: Boston Somersets 1901-1902 when owned by Charles W. Somers, Boston Pilgrims 1903-1906 Nicknames: Speed Boys 1901-1902, Plymouth Rocks 1901-1902, Boston Puritans 1901-1902, Bosox Franchise: Charter franchise, had been Buffalo Bisons (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#BuffaloBisons3) WA 1900

NEW YORK YANKEES League: AL 1903-> Aka: New York Highlanders 1903-1912 Nickname: New York Porchclimbers 1903-1904, New York Burglars 1903-1904, New York Invaders 1903, Greater New Yorks 1900's, New York Hill Toppers 1903-1912, Bronx Bombers Franchise: Relocated from Baltimore Orioles 1901-1902 (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#BaltimoreOrioles3). Called Highlanders both after a famous British Army regiment named Gordon's Highlanders, and because Hilltop Park was their home ballpark and was located on a hilltop overlooking Washington Heights. Called Yankees first by sportswriters Mark Roth of the New York Globe and Sam Crane of the New York Journal, the name appearing in print for the first time on June 21, 1904 in the Boston Herald.

SOXintheBURGH
01-19-2006, 06:57 PM
PITTSBURGH PIRATES Leagues: AA 1882-1886, NL 1887 -> Aka: Alleghenies (II) 1882-1889, Pittsburgh Innocents 1890 Nicknames: Potato Bugs 1887-1889, Zulus 1887-1889, Smoked Italians 1887-1889, Corsairs 1940's, Buccos 1950's -> Franchise: Charter franchise AA. New franchise NL. Merged with PL Burghers (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#PittsburghBurghers) in 1891. Merged with Louisville Colonels (http://baseball1.com/bb-data/bbd-tms.html#LouisvilleColonels) in 1900. Named Pirates for signing AA Athletics 2b Louis Bierbauer 1890-91.
THAT is unbelievable.

Pittsburgh Smoked Italians!

ondafarm
01-19-2006, 07:08 PM
The original team to play in the stadium built at 1060 W Addison was the Chicago Whales.

Fenway
01-19-2006, 07:15 PM
Buffalo has never forgiven baseball for moving the Bisons to Boston.

Heck if they had stayed they wouldn't dwell on Scott Norwood and "No Goal" :tongue:

dakuda
01-19-2006, 09:28 PM
CHICAGO CUBS Leagues: NA 1871, 1874-1875, NL 1876-> Aka: Chicago White Stockings 1876-1890, Chicago Colts 1890-1897, Chicago Orphans 1898-1901 Nicknames: Swallowtails 1888, Black Stockings 1888-1889,

Now, I knew that the Cubs were the White Stockings before the White Sox existed, but I never caught the Black Stockings part before.....

FielderJones
01-20-2006, 04:18 PM
CHICAGO CUBS Leagues: NA 1871, 1874-1875, NL 1876-> Aka: Chicago White Stockings 1876-1890, Chicago Colts 1890-1897, Chicago Orphans 1898-1901 Nicknames: Swallowtails 1888, Black Stockings 1888-1889, Anson's Colts 1887-1897, Ex-Colts 1898, Rainmakers 1894-1897, Babes 1894-1897, Cubs, Cowboys 1899, Desert Rangers 1899, Rough Riders 1899-1900, Remnants 1901-1902, Recruits 1902, Panamas 1903, Zephyrs 1905, Selee's Colts 1902-1905, Spuds 1906, Nationals 1905-1907, Trojans 1913

If you can find a microfilm of the September - October 1906 Spudune, you'll find the Chi (NL) team referred to as the Spuds. All you Illini that frequent WSI should be able to find said microfilm in the Undergrad Library.

Wsoxmike59
01-20-2006, 07:50 PM
The original team to play in the stadium built at 1060 W Addison was the Chicago Whales.

That's what I called them when Paul and Rick Reuschel pitched for them too!

http://www.oldbaseball.com/hom/rick_reuschel3.jpg>>only pic of Paul I could find :D: http://thejamootz.com/blog/archives/01302005flanders.jpg

Buddy_Bradford
01-20-2006, 10:56 PM
For the record, the White Sox came from St. Paul (the Saints, also known as the Apostles) and not the Minneapolis Millers as listed. Comiskey purchased the Sioux City Cornhuskers in 1894 and moved them to St. Paul for the 1895 Western League season. They played there until the move to Chicago in 1900 of course.