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SouthSide_HitMen
01-13-2006, 09:05 AM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-sun-is-bright-will-bud-be-an-eclipse/

Bud Selig has the contraction card. The contraction card can be played both ways, both ways potentially incredibly lucrative. It can be used to try and wrangle a salary cap out of the MLBPA and it can be used to blackmail Kansas City, Minnesota, Miami, Washington, D.C. and Oakland into building stadiums. A salary cap is a guaranteed way to increase profits annually and five new stadiums on the public dime adds up to anywhere between $2-3 billion in free moneyŚcorporate welfareŚfor Bud and his minions.

caulfield12
01-13-2006, 09:29 AM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-sun-is-bright-will-bud-be-an-eclipse/

Bud Selig has the contraction card. The contraction card can be played both ways, both ways potentially incredibly lucrative. It can be used to try and wrangle a salary cap out of the MLBPA and it can be used to blackmail Kansas City, Minnesota, Miami, Washington, D.C. and Oakland into building stadiums. A salary cap is a guaranteed way to increase profits annually and five new stadiums on the public dime adds up to anywhere between $2-3 billion in free moneyŚcorporate welfareŚfor Bud and his minions.

Minnesota taxpayers have always been against the stadium, even when their teams were winning the AL Central. I do not see that changing now. With the Royals, the problem has always been that the Jackson County Stadium Authority has tied their hands by packaging improvements in Arrowhead (which sells out every season for the last 10-15 years) with improvements at Kauffman. KC voters have never had the opportunity to vote for a stand-alone, downtown, baseball stadium only proposal. With the way the Royals have gone since mid-2003, I do not see it getting approved, and things in KC are always complicated by the fact that you have to get approvals from five different counties across state lines to get anything done.

Flight #24
01-13-2006, 10:25 AM
FWIW, I read somewhere that not only is the Minnesota legislature against a new stadium, but their equivalent of ISFA (group in charge of the stadium) has forced fairly poor terms on the Twins. Something to the effect of no sharing of luxury box revenue (it all goes to the Viqueens), and things of that nature. The consensus seems to be that they don't think the Twins should get even minimal levels of revenue from the stadium, they shouldn't get a new stadium, and they should continue to play in Minnesota. All because "Pohlad's a gazillionaire".:?:

Ol' No. 2
01-13-2006, 10:30 AM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-sun-is-bright-will-bud-be-an-eclipse/

Bud Selig has the contraction card. The contraction card can be played both ways, both ways potentially incredibly lucrative. It can be used to try and wrangle a salary cap out of the MLBPA and it can be used to blackmail Kansas City, Minnesota, Miami, Washington, D.C. and Oakland into building stadiums. A salary cap is a guaranteed way to increase profits annually and five new stadiums on the public dime adds up to anywhere between $2-3 billion in free moneyŚcorporate welfareŚfor Bud and his minions.The contraction card doesn't have nearly the value in negotiations with the MLBPA as people think. The union DID NOT agree not to oppose contraction. They only agreed not to file or be a party to an antitrust suit. But the EFFECTS of contraction are explicitly agreed to be subject to collective bargaining, so MLB can't just unilaterally decide to contract two teams and ram it down the players' throats.

Besides, contraction was never a serious possibility. It was always just a threat to be used to bludgeon local governments that wouldn't pony up the big dough for stadium deals.

ma-gaga
01-13-2006, 10:35 AM
FWIW, I read somewhere that not only is the Minnesota legislature against a new stadium, but their equivalent of ISFA (group in charge of the stadium) has forced fairly poor terms on the Twins. Something to the effect of no sharing of luxury box revenue (it all goes to the Viqueens), and things of that nature. The consensus seems to be that they don't think the Twins should get even minimal levels of revenue from the stadium, they shouldn't get a new stadium, and they should continue to play in Minnesota. All because "Pohlad's a gazillionaire".:?:

Something like that. The Metrodome was built for the Vikings, and the Twins reluctantly moved in. The revenues have been the same since the place was built. Just that now-days, the revenues from private suites makes up the majority of the profits from stadiums. Unfortunately, it ALL goes to the Vikings, and that is the way it's always been.

I understand why the Twins are pissed. The Metrodome doesn't do them ANY favors. The Twins are one of maybe 2 teams that actually needs a new stadium (Marlins??). Just about every other team gets concessions, parking and luxury suite revenues.

Basic necessities for every billionares dreams. Public subsidies to build a stadium, selling a product that you have a monopoly on, and being able to charge whatever price the market carries. And you get to pay yourself for owning the team... It's a dream.