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Fenway
01-12-2006, 02:30 PM
``With all due respect to the Indians, I'm not sure there's an insatiable appetite for Indians programming and nothing else,''

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/13582782.htm


http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051208&content_id=1279184&vkey=news_cle&fext=.jsp&c_id=cle

1951Campbell
01-12-2006, 02:35 PM
``With all due respect to the Indians, I'm not sure there's an insatiable appetite for Indians programming and nothing else,''

Understatement of the year.

Chicken Dinner
01-12-2006, 02:39 PM
Reruns of Major League in the off season.......it could work.

SouthSide_HitMen
01-12-2006, 02:41 PM
In season programing

1/2 hour Pre Game
3 1/2 hour game
1/2 hour post game
19 1/2 hours of Drew Carey reruns

Off season programing

2 Hours - Movie: Major League
22 Hours - Drew Carey reruns

I guess they can talk about the Browns and possibly sign the Cavs and maybe some college sports (Kent State, Cleveland State). Replays from Thistledown and Northfield? I'm grasping at straws here.

WSox8404
01-12-2006, 02:43 PM
Eeeek....I love the Sox and all but I would find it hard to watch interviews and reruns all day every day. Would this be the first of its kind in the country?

KRS1
01-12-2006, 02:45 PM
Eeeek....I love the Sox and all but I would find it hard to watch interviews and reruns all day every day. Would this be the first of its kind in the country?

No the Yanks have had YES for a while, and now the Mets have one.

I want Mags back
01-12-2006, 02:46 PM
In season programing

1/2 hour Pre Game
3 1/2 hour game
1/2 hour post game
19 1/2 hours of Drew Carey reruns

Off season programing

2 Hours - Movie: Major League
22 Hours - Drew Carey reruns

I guess they can talk about the Browns and possibly sign the Cavs and maybe some college sports (Kent State, Cleveland State). Replays from Thistledown and Northfield? I'm grasping at straws here.

what about Major league 2

TheDarkGundam
01-12-2006, 02:48 PM
In season programing

1/2 hour Pre Game
3 1/2 hour game
1/2 hour post game
19 1/2 hours of Drew Carey reruns

Off season programing

2 Hours - Movie: Major League
22 Hours - Drew Carey reruns

I guess they can talk about the Browns and possibly sign the Cavs and maybe some college sports (Kent State, Cleveland State). Replays from Thistledown and Northfield? I'm grasping at straws here.

I don't know, Drew Carey show is alright. :redneck

KRS1
01-12-2006, 02:52 PM
I don't know, Drew Carey show is alright. :redneck

Everytime I see that guys face on my TV, whether if it's his craptacular sitcom or that waste of a time-slot skit show, I fell like throwing my recliner through it.

Fenway
01-12-2006, 02:54 PM
Eeeek....I love the Sox and all but I would find it hard to watch interviews and reruns all day every day. Would this be the first of its kind in the country?

No check out these quality shows on the YES Network

(but nothing beats LeafsTV in Toronto, 24/7 about the Maple Leafs except they can't carry any games :?: )

Yankees Classics, Presented By Infiniti
YES holds the rights to all past regional Yankees telecasts and will air the greatest hits, including Roger Clemens' 300th victory and dramatic World Series victories from the 1996, '98, 2000 and '01 seasons.

Yankeeography
YES brings the greatest names in Yankee history to life with a signature biography series. The Yankee legends (Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Munson and more) plus contemporary heroes like Mattingly, Randolph, Jeter, Torre, Williams and Rivera.

Yankees Hot Stove
Bob Lorenz, Sports Illustrated senior baseball writer Tom Verducci and a rotating panel of local writers give you the inside scoop on the offseason dealings of the Yankees and the rest of Major League Baseball on Yankees Hot Stove. Live episodes premiere Thursdays from November through January.

Tales of Triumph
Get the back stories on some of the Yankees' most memorable victories. Featured programs include the 2003 ALCS and 1978 AL East playoff wins over the Boston Red Sox, the 1996 and 1998 World Series wins, and how the Yankees revitalized New York during the 2001 World Series.

MUsoxfan
01-12-2006, 03:01 PM
No the Yanks have had YES for a while, and now the Mets have one.

But IIRC, the YES network also carries the Nets and.....

you guessed it...the Oregon Ducks

Chicken Dinner
01-12-2006, 03:05 PM
How much could you take??????

Link (http://65.24.76.65/sounds/televis/drew/broken_penis.mp3)

Baby Fisk
01-12-2006, 03:12 PM
(but nothing beats LeafsTV in Toronto, 24/7 about the Maple Leafs except they can't carry any games :?: )

And the people demand more, MORE, MORE!!!

http://slam.canoe.ca/2000NHLPlayoffsGalleryImages/apr29_playoffs12.jpg
"WE JUST PAID $800 FOR UPPER DECK SEATS AND WORTH EVERY ******* LOONIE! THIS IS OUR YEAR, YOU *************! WOOOOO!!!!"


(I live and work among these people, so the whole Cub thing makes a LOT of sense to me...)

SOXintheBURGH
01-12-2006, 03:35 PM
And the people demand more, MORE, MORE!!!

http://slam.canoe.ca/2000NHLPlayoffsGalleryImages/apr29_playoffs12.jpg
"WE JUST PAID $800 FOR UPPER DECK SEATS AND WORTH EVERY ******* LOONIE! THIS IS OUR YEAR, YOU *************! WOOOOO!!!!"


(I live and work among these people, so the whole Cub thing makes a LOT of sense to me...)

Your foreign society astounds me. Can I join?

Fenway
01-12-2006, 03:41 PM
And the people demand more, MORE, MORE!!!

http://slam.canoe.ca/2000NHLPlayoffsGalleryImages/apr29_playoffs12.jpg
"WE JUST PAID $800 FOR UPPER DECK SEATS AND WORTH EVERY ******* LOONIE! THIS IS OUR YEAR, YOU *************! WOOOOO!!!!"


(I live and work among these people, so the whole Cub thing makes a LOT of sense to me...)

I can make an argument that there is no more loyal fanbase for any team in North America than Leafs fans and yet they rival the Blackhawks in having nothing to show for it. The Leafs haven't even been back to the Stanley Cup Final since they last won in 1967.

BTW what have they done with Maple Leaf Gardens?

Lip Man 1
01-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Fenway:

I'd personally take watching that lineup that YES has of past games and behind the scenes stories anytime.

Lip

Fenway
01-12-2006, 03:51 PM
Fenway:

I'd personally take watching that lineup that YES has of past games and behind the scenes stories anytime.

Lip

Lip

The Yankees certainly have quite the archive to draw from :smile:

but the Indians?

One hour specials on Rick Manning?
How I became the Indians drummer by John Adams?
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_cle_79x76.jpg

Tekijawa
01-12-2006, 03:54 PM
Lip

The Yankees certainly have quite the archive to draw from :smile:

but the Indians?

One hour specials on Rick Manning?
How I became the Indians drummer by John Adams?
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_cle_79x76.jpg

Don't forget the hours analysis of looking back on the Jack Parkman trade!

SouthSide_HitMen
01-12-2006, 04:00 PM
Lip

The Yankees certainly have quite the archive to draw from :smile:

but the Indians?

One hour specials on Rick Manning?
How I became the Indians drummer by John Adams?
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_cle_79x76.jpg

Mike Hargrove can take up a few hours a day.

Baby Fisk
01-12-2006, 04:03 PM
BTW what have they done with Maple Leaf Gardens?
MLG currently sits empty and unused. Last year, it was sold to the people who also own Loblaws, a supermarket chain. With a small forest of condo towers sprouting in the vicinity, English Canada's hockey shrine is destined to become a grocery store catering to the locals.

DSpivack
01-12-2006, 04:04 PM
But IIRC, the YES network also carries the Nets and.....

you guessed it...the Oregon Ducks

:?:

ondafarm
01-12-2006, 04:09 PM
Perhaps this thread should be locked and the key thrown away so that JR gets no ideas about doing the same for a White Sox channel. It's not that I'd mind the channel, but I'd hate to think what he'd charge each and every one of us. Remember how pathetic SportsChannel was?

Hitmen77
01-12-2006, 04:13 PM
Am I missing something or is what the Indians are doing essential the same as what the Sox did (along with the Bulls, Hawks, and Cubs) in establishing Comcast Sports Net?

Fenway
01-12-2006, 04:15 PM
Am I missing something or is what the Indians are doing essential the same as what the Sox did (along with the Bulls, Hawks, and Cubs) in establishing Comcast Sports Net?

Indians have gone one step further, they OWN the station completly. ( similar to NESN and YES )

Ol' No. 2
01-12-2006, 04:15 PM
And the people demand more, MORE, MORE!!!

http://slam.canoe.ca/2000NHLPlayoffsGalleryImages/apr29_playoffs12.jpg
"WE JUST PAID $800 FOR UPPER DECK SEATS AND WORTH EVERY ******* LOONIE! THIS IS OUR YEAR, YOU *************! WOOOOO!!!!"


(I live and work among these people, so the whole Cub thing makes a LOT of sense to me...)Is that a replica trophy they're holding? Can you imagine fans doing such a thing? :wink:

eriqjaffe
01-12-2006, 05:00 PM
:reinsy
"Did somebody say 'team-owned cable channel'?"

hsnterprize
01-12-2006, 09:16 PM
MLG currently sits empty and unused. Last year, it was sold to the people who also own Loblaws, a supermarket chain. With a small forest of condo towers sprouting in the vicinity, English Canada's hockey shrine is destined to become a grocery store catering to the locals.

Crap, eh? You know, in Montreal, the old Forum is now a shopping mall. But, the area where center ice used to be is a statue-like display with the Forum ice decorations painted on a floor to look like part of an ice surface, and a statue of a player sitting on a bench beside it.

What's really messed up is that the place could be the home of the Toronto Marlies AHL team. I know they play in the new Ricoh Coliseum, but I wonder why they couldn't get MLG?

1951Campbell
01-12-2006, 09:25 PM
Lip

The Yankees certainly have quite the archive to draw from :smile:

but the Indians?

One hour specials on Rick Manning?
How I became the Indians drummer by John Adams?
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_cle_79x76.jpg

"Why Jose Mesa Sucks: A 14-Part Series."

Fenway
01-12-2006, 10:10 PM
MLG currently sits empty and unused. Last year, it was sold to the people who also own Loblaws, a supermarket chain. With a small forest of condo towers sprouting in the vicinity, English Canada's hockey shrine is destined to become a grocery store catering to the locals.

and the Forum de Montreal is a movie theater and bowling alley :(:

but at least they survived
http://framedphotography.com/IMAGES/sports%20photos/gardendemo.jpg
Boston Garden
http://www.bobchwedyk.com/photo_gallery/singlesv2/image/bc_singles13.jpg
Chicago Stadium
http://www.angelfire.com/de2/detroitpix/OlympiaDemolition.jpg
Olympia Detroit

SouthSide_HitMen
01-12-2006, 10:15 PM
Is that a replica trophy they're holding? Can you imagine fans doing such a thing? :wink:


The difference is Hanger was able to celebrate the title. The fans in Baby Fisk's picture were not alive the last time Harold Ballard's (and now MLSE's) team won it in 1967. It would be similar to Cub fans walking around Wrigley with a 1908 replica trophy - assuming they had a trophy back then (I don't think one was awarded). Maybe the cubs will unveil one during their upcoming special 100 year anniversary of failure.

Palehose13
01-12-2006, 10:16 PM
Is that a replica trophy they're holding? Can you imagine fans doing such a thing? :wink:

Ha ha..I don't want this to go unnoticed. Good stuff, ON2!

Brian26
01-12-2006, 10:58 PM
One hour specials on Rick Manning?
How I became the Indians drummer by John Adams?
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_cle_79x76.jpg

A documentary on making hand gestures to the fans by Bert Blyleven
The Best of Buddy Bell
Gardening Tips with Andre Thornton
"Highway Robbery: The Von Hayes Story" subtitled: "How We Ripped Off the Phillies for a Decade's Worth of Talent"

MILTMAY5
01-13-2006, 11:55 PM
In season programing

1/2 hour Pre Game
3 1/2 hour game
1/2 hour post game
19 1/2 hours of Drew Carey reruns

Off season programing

2 Hours - Movie: Major League
22 Hours - Drew Carey reruns

I guess they can talk about the Browns and possibly sign the Cavs and maybe some college sports (Kent State, Cleveland State). Replays from Thistledown and Northfield? I'm grasping at straws here.Don't forget about Howard the Duck!

SouthSide_HitMen
01-14-2006, 12:14 AM
A documentary on making hand gestures to the fans by Bert Blyleven
The Best of Buddy Bell
Gardening Tips with Andre Thornton
"Highway Robbery: The Von Hayes Story" subtitled: "How We Ripped Off the Phillies for a Decade's Worth of Talent"

They can replay Mike Hargrove at bats - One pitch, commercial, second pitch, commerical....

One hour programming per at bat or a good 4 hour chunk for the typical 4 at bats per game. Must see TV.

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/al/clevind/HargroveCle.JPG

"The Human Rain Delay" Episode 205 (notice the "Golden Boxes" in the background).

TommyJohn
01-14-2006, 09:51 AM
Coming up on the Indians Network: Former Indians great Bob Bitterfeller
analyzes today's baseball players and compares them to the stars of his
era.

Bitterfeller: "Well, there's no comparison. The guys in my day were great,
and played strictly for the love of the game. Money was of absolutely no
concern to us. No, really. Today's players are wimps compared to us. If
that Jeter fellow saw my fastball, he'd cry for his mommy and demand a
trillion dollar raise.

And don't you believe all that crap about how integration was so hard on
all the black guys. We welcomed them with open arms because we knew
they'd help us win. Larry Doby was treated the same as everyone, because
he was one of us, an Indian."

Doby: (archival footage) "What the hell team was he playing for?"

PaleHoseGeorge
01-14-2006, 09:58 AM
As someone who worked in Cleveland in the mid-90's, I can tell you this will never work. The Indians are strictly a diversion from talking about the Browns. Now if the Cleveland Browns launched their own cable channel, that would work.

Of course here in Chicago the Bears already have two such channels: WSCR and WMVP. And then they fight in the mud over who has more listeners... the world's tallest midget contest for radio geeks.

:buffone
"Grumb al ad gunld e vser Klen."

:mcneil
"Put on the pads!"

:bernstein
"I'm smarter than you are!"

Fenway
01-14-2006, 10:06 AM
As someone who worked in Cleveland in the mid-90's, I can tell you this will never work. The Indians are strictly a diversion from talking about the Browns. Now if the Cleveland Browns launched their own cable channel, that would work.



I can remember going to a Indians game in 1991 and looking around the stadium and the Browns logo was everywhere. On this night the crowd was announced as 1695 and I remember telling my wife that the Indians are not long for Cleveland that it was a Browns town. Hard to fathom 4 years later the Browns were the team that left and the NFL allowed it to happen.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B09090CLE1991.htm

SOX ADDICT '73
01-14-2006, 11:01 AM
Breakfast with Coco Crisp?
:rolling:
Am I missing something or is what the Indians are doing essential the same as what the Sox did (along with the Bulls, Hawks, and Cubs) in establishing Comcast Sports Net?
Your parenthetical phrase is the key difference. CSN is an all-Chicago sports network. By all accounts, the Indians are planning to do this on their own.

BTW, who was the genius planning an "All Kansas City Royals Network"? :?:

TomBradley72
01-14-2006, 11:42 AM
If they played replays of White Sox games from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's....I would be a HUGE fan of a White Sox Channel.

Brian26
01-14-2006, 05:42 PM
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B09090CLE1991.htm

Trivia:

Can anyone check out this box score and give me the nine correct names of past or present White Sox players that played in this game?

PKalltheway
01-15-2006, 02:07 AM
I can remember going to a Indians game in 1991 and looking around the stadium and the Browns logo was everywhere. On this night the crowd was announced as 1695 and I remember telling my wife that the Indians are not long for Cleveland that it was a Browns town. Hard to fathom 4 years later the Browns were the team that left and the NFL allowed it to happen.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B09090CLE1991.htm

Geez that attendance is pathetic even for a Monday night in September when the home team is way out of the race. The Browns must have been on Monday Night Football.