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JermaineDye05
01-09-2006, 03:54 PM
at whitesox.com in the mailbag they said the entire reason for McCarthy's number was because his dad who was born on May 5, and it also was a small tribute to his pitching idol Orel Hershiser. McCarthy said he always wanted to wear 35 or 20 but considering 35 will eventually be retired and his great respect for Thomas he won't take it and well of course 20's taken by Garland so he added the two together

RedHeadPaleHoser
01-09-2006, 04:02 PM
Now when he comes in, Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55" can be played...:smile:

SOXintheBURGH
01-09-2006, 04:03 PM
Now when he comes in, Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55" can be played...:smile:

I don't want any part of that man or his music in the Cell.

RedHeadPaleHoser
01-09-2006, 04:04 PM
I don't want any part of that man or his music in the Cell.

By Nancy, I meant..by Nancy.

The Deacon
01-09-2006, 04:08 PM
I don't want any part of that man or his music in the Cell.

If it's not David Lee Roth, turn it off!

RedHeadPaleHoser
01-09-2006, 04:10 PM
If it's not David Lee Roth, turn it off!

The reference was a solo Sammy Hagar song, not a Van Hagar reference.

Hangar18
01-09-2006, 04:12 PM
at whitesox.com in the mailbag they said the entire reason for McCarthy's number was because his dad who was born on May 5, and it also was a small tribute to his pitching idol Orel Hershiser. McCarthy said he always wanted to wear 35 or 20 but considering 35 will eventually be retired and his great respect for Thomas he won't take it and well of course 20's taken by Garland so he added the two together

Interesting story.

bennyw41
01-09-2006, 04:22 PM
What's wrong with 41??? Its Glen Rice, and he is the best basketball player ever to live. I use 41 with no apologies.

NonetheLoaiza
01-09-2006, 04:45 PM
Not sure if it was discussed in another thread, but just looking at other numbers, Vazquez is listed as 33, Thome as 25, and the Fighting Mackowiaks as 10. If it was mentioned before...lay off! I don't read every thread...:D:

Lip Man 1
01-09-2006, 04:48 PM
Brandon shouldn't have much trouble raising the standard for players who have worn the #55.

#55 Jim Geddes - P
Jack Kucek - P

LOL :D:

Lip

Hangar18
01-09-2006, 04:49 PM
I admire the fact the McCarthy was a huge fan of the Big Hurt, and that he respects him and the SOX logo very much, you cant ask for anything better than that, in this day where players are quick to jump ship for bigger money. Doesnt it tickle you that Konerko took less money to stay here, when he couldve really jammed it to the SOX for not signing him last year?
Things are looking up for this team .............

Corlose 15
01-09-2006, 08:37 PM
I admire the fact the McCarthy was a huge fan of the Big Hurt, and that he respects him and the SOX logo very much, you cant ask for anything better than that, in this day where players are quick to jump ship for bigger money. Doesnt it tickle you that Konerko took less money to stay here, when he couldve really jammed it to the SOX for not signing him last year?
Things are looking up for this team .............

Yeah, in a few years they just might win the world series.:redneck

whtsx1959
01-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Sort of related yet not, does anyone know why Pablo Ozuna changed his number from 66 to 38? He used 66 in Spring training last year.

soxfanreggie
01-09-2006, 09:01 PM
Hmmm...maybe Pablo is very religious and didn't want to risk playing the 6 spot or being 6th in the batting order so he would be 666....? :tongue:

JermaineDye05
01-09-2006, 09:24 PM
Hmmm...maybe Pablo is very religious and didn't want to risk playing the 6 spot or being 6th in the batting order so he would be 666....? :tongue:

if he is religious I doubt he'll be playing on June 6 then 6/6/06, thats if theres a game scheduled

KRS1
01-09-2006, 09:44 PM
What's wrong with 41??? Its Glen Rice, and he is the best basketball player ever to live. I use 41 with no apologies.


Please, oh please, tell me this was joke and that your teal button is broken.

buehrle4cy05
01-09-2006, 09:57 PM
Now when he comes in, Sammy Hagar's "I Can't Drive 55" can be played...:smile:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/shingotime10/COMICB.jpg
"I can't drive fifty-five...because it only goes 38"

soxinem1
01-09-2006, 10:02 PM
Please, oh please, tell me this was joke and that your teal button is broken.

Tom Seaver wore 41. That is noting a small piece of Sox history, and a lot of MLB history.

Then again, Jason Grilli wore 41 also. He accounted for a blown 6-7 run lead in 2004 and a ton of HR's allowed.

Other than ST or September, I cannot remember anyone with 55. Are there any notables?

TheOldRoman
01-09-2006, 10:07 PM
Doesnt it tickle you that Konerko took less money to stay here, when he couldve really jammed it to the SOX for not signing him last year?
Things are looking up for this team ............. *shakes head*
When will you give it up? The Sox were NOT outbid! There were no higher bids. He didn't take less money to sign with the Sox. They won a bidding war, and yes, team allegiance had something to do with it. Just live with it.

KRS1
01-09-2006, 10:19 PM
*shakes head*
When will you give it up? The Sox were NOT outbid! There were no higher bids. He didn't take less money to sign with the Sox. They won a bidding war, and yes, team allegiance had something to do with it. Just live with it.

Correction, the O's offered him 5-$65mil and Paulie turned it down.

TheOldRoman
01-09-2006, 10:44 PM
Correction, the O's offered him 5-$65mil and Paulie turned it down.
Yes, you are correct. I forgot that, but the O's are not a "serious" bidder. By serious, I mean a team that really wants to improve itself. They are a horrible team that plans to remain horrible, so most players with morals overlook the ridiculous money they throw at every big free agent.
Either way, I will correct myself.

Of the teams that have intentions of fielding a winning team within the next 10 years, nobody outbid the Sox.

KRS1
01-09-2006, 11:07 PM
Yes, you are correct. I forgot that, but the O's are not a "serious" bidder. By serious, I mean a team that really wants to improve itself. They are a horrible team that plans to remain horrible, so most players with morals overlook the ridiculous money they throw at every big free agent.
Either way, I will correct myself.

Of the teams that have intentions of fielding a winning team within the next 10 years, nobody outbid the Sox.
The O's keep trying to sign some good guys, but always end up playing the plan D or E cards because they cant convince them that they are good. I personally see some great young talent ready to step for that org(Penn, Loewen, Markakas,Ray,Fiorentino,Olson), either on the field or in a trade, and really wouldnt mind signing with them even with them even though they have the two biggest overpayers in the majors to compete with( it will come back to bite them in the butt, that is if it already hasn't).

santo=dorf
01-09-2006, 11:26 PM
Correction, the O's offered him 5-$65mil and Paulie turned it down.
I saw an interesting blog on that, and apparently if Konerko signed with Baltimore he would've lost more in taxes.


First, I will start with agent fees. Although I don't know what Craig Landis' specific fee is, I'll assume that it's the same 5% fee that Scott Boras charges (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/040510/10eeagent_2.htm). That means the $1 million more offered by Baltimore is only worth $950,000 to Konerko. I'll assume that the Angels offered $12.5 million per year ($62.5 million total). Under that assumption, after agent fees, the Angels offer was worth $475,000 more to Konerko.

Even more important to consider than agent fees is state taxes. Happily for Illinois residents, Illinois is a relatively low-tax state. Illinois has a flat tax of 3% on income (http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/edit/state/profiles/state_tax_Ill.asp). On the other hand, California has a very high income tax rate (http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/edit/state/profiles/state_tax_Cal.asp) - it's 9.3% on essentially all of what Konerko's income would be. Maryland also has a relatively high tax rate. Maryland residents pay 4.75% of their income in tax to the state government and additional 1.5%-3% to local governments (http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/edit/state/profiles/state_tax_Md.asp). Assuming that Konerko would live in the lowest tax area around Baltimore - Anne Arundel county (http://individuals.marylandtaxes.com/incometax/localtax.asp) - he'd pay a total of 7.31% of his salary in income taxes.

So the Orioles' offer of $1 million more per year really is worth only about $10,000 more per season. That difference is eaten up by the cost of 4 round-trip first class tickets between Konerko's Arizona home and the Orioles' Fort Lauderdale spring training facility. And the Angels' offer of $500,000 more was, in reality, the equivalent of $500,000 less for Konerko. Given the difference in state taxes, the Angels would have had to offer $1.5 million more than the White Sox (i.e., $13.5 million per year) to allow Konerko to have the same take-home at the end of the day.


Link (http://blackbetsy.blogspot.com/)

longshot7
01-10-2006, 01:55 AM
if he is religious I doubt he'll be playing on June 6 then 6/6/06, thats if theres a game scheduled

I'll be partyin' all day that day. It's not the solstice but it'll do.

Scottiehaswheels
01-10-2006, 02:05 AM
I saw an interesting blog on that, and apparently if Konerko signed with Baltimore he would've lost more in taxes.



Link (http://blackbetsy.blogspot.com/)

I'm really curious if that is how it works though... Since I live in Indiana I know that if I work in Illinois, we don't pay Illinois state taxes, we only pay Indiana tax? Why wouldn't Paul pay AZ tax and not CA,IL, or MD tax?

Edit: nevermind, read the whole article; That jock tax thing is interesting/complicated as can be... Starting pitchers if paid well in Florida make out like bandits then...

doublem23
01-10-2006, 07:53 AM
I admire the fact the McCarthy was a huge fan of the Big Hurt, and that he respects him and the SOX logo very much, you cant ask for anything better than that, in this day where players are quick to jump ship for bigger money. Doesnt it tickle you that Konerko took less money to stay here, when he couldve really jammed it to the SOX for not signing him last year?
Things are looking up for this team .............


If you're going to praise someone for not taking the money to stay in Chicago, then you have to do it for Jon Garland. The guy's still in his mid-20s, has thrown 200 innings each year for the last few years, and I don't think he's ever been on the disabled list (definitely hasn't been shelved for any significant amount of time), and he takes a deal worth less than $10 million/year to stay here. :o:

If he went to free agency next year, he could have easily commanded a $15 million/year+ contract. Easily.

Hangar18
01-10-2006, 08:23 AM
*shakes head*
When will you give it up? The Sox were NOT outbid!

*Shakes head also* Baltimore offered 5 years-$65 Million, and my math says they outbid the SOX, but Paulie chose to accept less money and stay here. Money is everything to some players, but not Paulie. And that was refreshing.

Hangar18
01-10-2006, 08:25 AM
If you're going to praise someone for not taking the money to stay in Chicago, then you have to do it for Jon Garland. The guy's still in his mid-20s, has thrown 200 innings each year for the last few years, and I don't think he's ever been on the disabled list (definitely hasn't been shelved for any significant amount of time), and he takes a deal worth less than $10 million/year to stay here. :o:

If he went to free agency next year, he could have easily commanded a $15 million/year+ contract. Easily.

You are correct, Jonny boy deserves some kudos too. Imagine being a Red Sox fan and having Damon bolt after he said he would love to stay, but runs for more money?

tacosalbarojas
01-10-2006, 12:37 PM
at whitesox.com in the mailbag they said the entire reason for McCarthy's number was because his dad who was born on May 5, and it also was a small tribute to his pitching idol Orel Hershiser. McCarthy said he always wanted to wear 35 or 20 but considering 35 will eventually be retired and his great respect for Thomas he won't take it and well of course 20's taken by Garland so he added the two togetherDid anyone else notice that when Frank did his rehab last summer in Charlotte he wore #41, then when Mac came up that's the number he took with the parent club. I never heard anything, but I always thought that Mac's choice last year was not coincidental.

santo=dorf
01-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Did anyone else notice that when Frank did his rehab last summer in Charlotte he wore #41, then when Mac came up that's the number he took with the parent club. I never heard anything, but I always thought that Mac's choice last year was not coincidental.

According to his father (Big Mac,) Brandon did not get to choose which number to wear when he was called up. It makes me wonder if Jenks will change his number too. (I can't think of his minor league number off the top of my head.)

WhiteSoxFan84
01-10-2006, 01:25 PM
http://www.chicagobears.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ODBEJCILFMHC/briggs_inside.jpghttp://media.scout.com/Media/Image/18/188478.jpg

A lot of LBs in the NFL love to wear # 55. You got Lance Briggs and Dan Morgan up top, there's also; Derrick Brooks, Lee Suggs, Junior Seau, etc.


Baseball players that wear # 55?
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/blanton-joe-cp-050614.jpghttp://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-1683570reg.jpghttp://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2003/0430/photo/a_meche_vi.jpg

The Milwaukee Brewers' Tomo Ohka is also now wearing # 55.

bennyw41
01-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Please, oh please, tell me this was joke and that your teal button is broken.

Nope. I love Glen Rice, and the number 41

I want Mags back
01-11-2006, 08:57 AM
some people were wondering a few weeks back why McCarthy changed to number 55

link (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060108&content_id=1292680&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws)

Rocky Soprano
01-11-2006, 09:00 AM
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=64942

I want Mags back
01-11-2006, 09:28 AM
some people were wondering a few weeks back why McCarthy changed to number 55

link (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060108&content_id=1292680&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws)

my bad

NonetheLoaiza
01-12-2006, 06:08 PM
Sort of related yet not, does anyone know why Pablo Ozuna changed his number from 66 to 38? He used 66 in Spring training last year.

Would you have wanted to wear 66 in the bigs? Those higher numbers are usually just given to NRI's and rookies so that scouts, managers, etc. know who is a minor leaguer/Non-Roster invitee. BMac was 74, IIRC in the spring.