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popilius
01-06-2006, 04:52 PM
I've searched the threads, but I couldn't find anything definite about Ross Gload. I see he's still on the 40-man roster, but can anyone tell me about his current contract situation?

With Konerko and Thome at first, it's not likely he's going to see a lot of time with the Sox in 2006. He made some contributions in the big leagues in 2004, and hit very well in the minors in 2005, so I would think that he'd have some value to other teams.

Thanks.

DaleJRFan
01-06-2006, 04:58 PM
I'd wager he battles it out with Borchard and a few other non-roster invites for the 25th roster spot. He's a valuable leftie bat and can (almost) play the outfield in addition to 1B. With Willie and Timo going buhbye, retaining him for next season wouldn't be a bad idea.

As for his contract, according to mlb4u.com, he made 335k in 2005. Considering his service time, 1.079, he's not arbitration eligible, or is he??? Does he have options left?

Ol' No. 2
01-06-2006, 05:45 PM
I'd wager he battles it out with Borchard and a few other non-roster invites for the 25th roster spot. He's a valuable leftie bat and can (almost) play the outfield in addition to 1B. With Willie and Timo going buhbye, retaining him for next season wouldn't be a bad idea.

As for his contract, according to mlb4u.com, he made 335k in 2005. Considering his service time, 1.079, he's not arbitration eligible, or is he??? Does he have options left?His contract has been renewed for 2006. I'm not sure if he has any options left. Maybe one.

maurice
01-06-2006, 05:52 PM
He's a valuable leftie bat and can (almost) play the outfield in addition to 1B.

Even with the parenthetical use of "almost," this is an extremely liberal use of term "play the OF." Gload can stand in the OF but, then again, so could any of us. He's pretty much 1B only, even at Charlotte, which limits his value. He's a better hitter than Borchard, but Borchard is a legitimate defensive OF on a team with no other designated backup OF (for the time being).

I don't think Gload can make the 25-man on a team with two 1B in the starting lineup, Mackowiak on the bench, and Rogowski at AAA.

Dat Funky Motion
01-06-2006, 06:00 PM
Remember that game in Wrigley a couple of years ago. Please no!!

Banix12
01-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Well hopefully for his sake he has spent this offseason working his butt off on trying to be a better OF because that is his only prayer for making the team.

My thinking is he'll do fine in spring training but he'll eventually end up being traded or waived and end up on a national league bench somewhere. I think his future is in a Lenny Harris/Dave Hansen pinch hitting specialist type of role.

Sox-o-matic
01-06-2006, 10:36 PM
I don't think Gload can make the 25-man on a team with two 1B in the starting lineup, Mackowiak on the bench, and Rogowski at AAA.

I agree with you. I think the final roster spot is going to come down to a battle between Owens and Borchard. Borchard is a switch hitter, Owens has speed, and both can play any OF position. I think Ross is either traded or granted his release after ST.

Daver
01-06-2006, 10:44 PM
I agree with you. I think the final roster spot is going to come down to a battle between Owens and Borchard. Borchard is a switch hitter, Owens has speed, and both can play any OF position. I think Ross is either traded or granted his release after ST.

Borchard could prolly give Owens a run for his money in the forty, he is deceptively fast.

Banix12
01-06-2006, 10:46 PM
I agree with you. I think the final roster spot is going to come down to a battle between Owens and Borchard. Borchard is a switch hitter, Owens has speed, and both can play any OF position. I think Ross is either traded or granted his release after ST.

Please, please, don't limit the choices to just Owens and Borchard. I'm betting there will be other options and they will get just as serious consideration, possibly more.

Sox-o-matic
01-06-2006, 10:53 PM
Please, please, don't limit the choices to just Owens and Borchard. I'm betting there will be other options and they will get just as serious consideration, possibly more.

I'm not exactly crazy about a bunch of Armando Rios' hanging around in ST to 'compete.' As far as I'm concerned they'd just be taking AB's away from those who need them more.

Banix12
01-06-2006, 11:06 PM
I'm not exactly crazy about a bunch of Armando Rios' hanging around in ST to 'compete.' As far as I'm concerned they'd just be taking AB's away from those who need them more.

Armando Rios is just one example. There are plenty of other guys who were given outside chances of making a roster who made rosters and played well. A few examples, Chris Widger (beat out Davis and Burke), Pablo Ozuna (beat out Wilson Valdez, who Ozzie really liked), and Ross Gload (cmon, who really saw him making the team before 2004).

The reasons why I'm against Borchard are well documented on this site so I'll refrain from getting into them. I just am not positive Ozzie wants him on the team.

I also think that Kenny and Ozzie would like Owens to get a little more experience so I don't think he is a serious option.

Hence why I think other options will figure into the 4th OF situation.

caulfield12
01-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Armando Rios is just one example. There are plenty of other guys who were given outside chances of making a roster who made rosters and played well. A few examples, Chris Widger (beat out Davis and Burke), Pablo Ozuna (beat out Wilson Valdez, who Ozzie really liked), and Ross Gload (cmon, who really saw him making the team before 2004).

The reasons why I'm against Borchard are well documented on this site so I'll refrain from getting into them. I just am not positive Ozzie wants him on the team.

I also think that Kenny and Ozzie would like Owens to get a little more experience so I don't think he is a serious option.

Hence why I think other options will figure into the 4th OF situation.

Yeah, I would almost rather have Chris Singleton, lol. Has anything happened with Eric Byrnes, he seems like perfect insurance for Anderson? As long as it is not Julio Ramirez or Jeff Abbott. Oh for the days of Shawn Lil Abner, Cory Snyder and Matt Merullo in the OF!

Owens, as mentioned, will not sit on the bench. Mackowiak is another option, although he gets overexposed when he plays everyday.

Sox-o-matic
01-07-2006, 10:43 AM
Armando Rios is just one example. There are plenty of other guys who were given outside chances of making a roster who made rosters and played well. A few examples, Chris Widger (beat out Davis and Burke), Pablo Ozuna (beat out Wilson Valdez, who Ozzie really liked), and Ross Gload (cmon, who really saw him making the team before 2004).

The reasons why I'm against Borchard are well documented on this site so I'll refrain from getting into them. I just am not positive Ozzie wants him on the team.

I also think that Kenny and Ozzie would like Owens to get a little more experience so I don't think he is a serious option.

Hence why I think other options will figure into the 4th OF situation.

Mackoviak is our fourth outfielder. He's not going to have to play 3B every day, he won't catch or play 1B with Thome here, Ozuna plays short and can play third here and there, so I think Rob spends a lot of time in the OF and maybe a bit at 2B, thus making him the starter that KW talked about when he traded for him. IMO Ozzie is only looking for a 5th OF to use when he wants to give a couple guys the day off at the same time.

And I wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of Owens sitting on the bench either. I mean is he the future of the organization or is he a minor league slap hitting OF with some speed who probably wouldn't ever start on the club anyway? I just don't see the organization being higher on Owens than Anderson and Sweeney, and I don't see them ever having an outfield without at least one power hitter, so I just can't see the Sox projecting Owens as a starter.

caulfield12
01-07-2006, 01:07 PM
Mackoviak is our fourth outfielder. He's not going to have to play 3B every day, he won't catch or play 1B with Thome here, Ozuna plays short and can play third here and there, so I think Rob spends a lot of time in the OF and maybe a bit at 2B, thus making him the starter that KW talked about when he traded for him. IMO Ozzie is only looking for a 5th OF to use when he wants to give a couple guys the day off at the same time.

And I wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of Owens sitting on the bench either. I mean is he the future of the organization or is he a minor league slap hitting OF with some speed who probably wouldn't ever start on the club anyway? I just don't see the organization being higher on Owens than Anderson and Sweeney, and I don't see them ever having an outfield without at least one power hitter, so I just can't see the Sox projecting Owens as a starter.

Owens very easily could be the replacement for Pods in a couple of seasons, if not in 2007. A lot depends on how Brian Anderson and Dye do this season.

Realistically, Sweeney is best suited for RF. The question is can the White Sox survive with Owens or Pods, Anderson and Sweeney (as a replacement for Dye in 07 or 08) in the outfield? Thatīs not a whole lot of power, so they will definitely have to get some sock from AJ, Crede, Uribe, Iguchi, Thome and Konerko to make up for the deficit in home runs.

Banix12
01-07-2006, 01:45 PM
Mackoviak is our fourth outfielder. He's not going to have to play 3B every day, he won't catch or play 1B with Thome here, Ozuna plays short and can play third here and there, so I think Rob spends a lot of time in the OF and maybe a bit at 2B, thus making him the starter that KW talked about when he traded for him. IMO Ozzie is only looking for a 5th OF to use when he wants to give a couple guys the day off at the same time.

And I wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of Owens sitting on the bench either. I mean is he the future of the organization or is he a minor league slap hitting OF with some speed who probably wouldn't ever start on the club anyway? I just don't see the organization being higher on Owens than Anderson and Sweeney, and I don't see them ever having an outfield without at least one power hitter, so I just can't see the Sox projecting Owens as a starter.

I wouldn't totally rule him out but he's only been in baseball about three years. Even though Brian Anderson has been in the league about the same time and is older, some of Andersons experience comes at AAA which I think is where the Sox would like to see him next year. I don't totally rule it out as an option for next year but I don't think it would be Kenny and Ozzie's Ideal situation.

So they'll still need another OF and if it is a 5th OF you think they are going to go after I guarantee it won't be Owens. He's not coming up here to play once a week. So basically it would be a battle between Borchard and some Non-roster invitees for that slot and in that situation my money is on one of the non-roster invitees to make the roster.

KRS1
01-07-2006, 01:51 PM
Mackoviak is our fourth outfielder. He's not going to have to play 3B every day, he won't catch or play 1B with Thome here, Ozuna plays short and can play third here and there, so I think Rob spends a lot of time in the OF and maybe a bit at 2B, thus making him the starter that KW talked about when he traded for him. IMO Ozzie is only looking for a 5th OF to use when he wants to give a couple guys the day off at the same time.

And I wouldn't necessarily rule out the possibility of Owens sitting on the bench either. I mean is he the future of the organization or is he a minor league slap hitting OF with some speed who probably wouldn't ever start on the club anyway? I just don't see the organization being higher on Owens than Anderson and Sweeney, and I don't see them ever having an outfield without at least one power hitter, so I just can't see the Sox projecting Owens as a starter.


1. He has a ton of speed, not some.
2. These are the biggest credential for a major league lead-off hitter. T
3. Slap hitter is such an over-used word I even find myself using it these days, but in reality a guy who puts up the kind of numbers he did last year is just a downright good hitter making some solid contact on a regular basis.

Sox-o-matic
01-07-2006, 04:03 PM
1. He has a ton of speed, not some.
2. These are the biggest credential for a major league lead-off hitter. T
3. Slap hitter is such an over-used word I even find myself using it these days, but in reality a guy who puts up the kind of numbers he did last year is just a downright good hitter making some solid contact on a regular basis.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_407483.jpg
"I hit .400 in AAA once..."

SoxFan76
01-07-2006, 05:09 PM
I still have faith in Borchard. No reason really, I just think he can pull things together. He had a decent year in AAA...and let's be honest: nobody is expecting him to hit .300. He's projected more as a .250-.260 hitter with power, correct? I'd be comfortable with him in a pinch hitting situation with his power.

Quick question, is most of his power from the left side? Or does he have power from the right as well.

Banix12
01-07-2006, 05:51 PM
I still have faith in Borchard. No reason really, I just think he can pull things together. He had a decent year in AAA...and let's be honest: nobody is expecting him to hit .300. He's projected more as a .250-.260 hitter with power, correct? I'd be comfortable with him in a pinch hitting situation with his power.

Quick question, is most of his power from the left side? Or does he have power from the right as well.

.250-.260 would be the highest I think you could ever expect him to hit. I don't think he'll do that but I'm also not sure he is as awful as the .191 career major league average he is currently sporting. The highest expectation would be .260 and the lowest would be around .180 so I think somewhere around the .215-.240 range is probably the most reasonable expectation.

I'm not sure what his splits were in the minors but in the majors he has shown much more power batting lefty. Most of his HRs and all of his doubles have come from that side of the plate. He does appear to have a bit of righty power but it is a wide split in the majors.

MLB totals
left handed 7 doubles, 9 HRs
right handed 1 triple, 3 HRs

Based on what he has done so far, I think the best possible projection for Joe would be that he becomes a Russell Branyan type player. High strikeout, high power, maintains a batting average somewhere between .210 - .240.

KRS1
01-08-2006, 12:00 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_407483.jpg
"I hit .400 in AAA once..."

Ummmmmm....... No you didn't. The best you ever hit was .380 in only 100 AB's your second time around with Charlotte. Not to mention it took Wee Willie 4 years to get to AA where he hit .305 with a .364 OBP. So basically JO got there two years sooner (please dont talk about age), and dusted him in the stats department, minus steals and hr's(give him another season and he'll have him in steals too, maybe even homers in Charlotte). Nice try Wille.:D:

DaleJRFan
01-08-2006, 11:47 AM
Even with the parenthetical use of "almost," this is an extremely liberal use of term "play the OF." Gload can stand in the OF but, then again, so could any of us. He's pretty much 1B only, even at Charlotte, which limits his value. He's a better hitter than Borchard, but Borchard is a legitimate defensive OF on a team with no other designated backup OF (for the time being).

I don't think Gload can make the 25-man on a team with two 1B in the starting lineup, Mackowiak on the bench, and Rogowski at AAA.

Maurice, I was totally joking about Ross Gload playing the outfield. I guess I missed the teal dropdown when I made that post... :redneck

I'll never forget watching him erase HIS OWN two-run double with a run-run error at Wrigley, after his Grand Slam was called back...

itsnotrequired
01-08-2006, 01:11 PM
His contract has been renewed for 2006. I'm not sure if he has any options left. Maybe one.

I don't think he does. One was used in 2005, another in 2002 with the Rockies and another in 2000 with the Cubs.

Ol' No. 2
01-09-2006, 01:27 PM
I don't think he does. One was used in 2005, another in 2002 with the Rockies and another in 2000 with the Cubs.The 2002 and 2000 playing time may have been Sept callups, which would not be options used. He used one last year, but I don't recall him using one in 2004 (anyone recall if he got sent down any time that year?) Probably used one in 2003 if he was added to the 40-man roster by Colorado in 2002. I think he may have one left.

DaleJRFan
01-09-2006, 01:35 PM
The 2002 and 2000 playing time may have been Sept callups, which would not be options used. He used one last year, but I don't recall him using one in 2004 (anyone recall if he got sent down any time that year?) Probably used one in 2003 if he was added to the 40-man roster by Colorado in 2002. I think he may have one left.

In 2004, he was with the club the entire season.

Ol' No. 2
01-09-2006, 01:45 PM
In 2004, he was with the club the entire season.That's what I thought. He probably has one option year left.

White Sox Randy
01-09-2006, 02:55 PM
I'd like to see Borchard as the 4th outfielder - along with Mackowiak, ofcourse. I hope that he is ready to be more consistent and confident.

I think that Gload will be sent down as insurance, if he accepts that or he will be moved. Maybe, he can't be sent down again - not sure about that.

I know that if Thome or Konerko goes down, I would much rather have him than a completely untested and unready(imo) Rogowski.

Owens needs to start the season in AAA. He is a good fallback for Pods.

maurice
01-09-2006, 03:47 PM
Maurice, I was totally joking...

I know. I was half-joking, but didn't feel like making every other letter teal.
:cool:

Tragg
01-09-2006, 05:21 PM
I'm sort of surprised that we didn't try to trade Gload. We have no room for him and we have Ragowski who looks like a similar player, but with more options left. I know we couldn't get much for him, but we'll probably lose him soon enough, so I'd just as soon take an A ball player or two. (of course, we may have tried to trade him).

itsnotrequired
01-11-2006, 01:33 AM
The 2002 and 2000 playing time may have been Sept callups, which would not be options used. He used one last year, but I don't recall him using one in 2004 (anyone recall if he got sent down any time that year?) Probably used one in 2003 if he was added to the 40-man roster by Colorado in 2002. I think he may have one left.

I think you are right about the 2000 callup. I'm 99% sure that he was sent back down in 2002. So I guess he has one left.