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Fenway
01-02-2006, 12:06 AM
A's announced that they're closing the third deck, thus reducing the listed baseball capacity of the multi-use stadium the club shares with the NFL's Raiders from 44,073 to 34,179. The new baseball capacity is the lowest in the Major Leagues -- Pittsburgh's PNC Park, which holds 38,496, is now the second-lowest

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051221&content_id=1286056&vkey=news_oak&fext=.jsp&c_id=oak

1951Campbell
01-02-2006, 12:13 AM
Mna, that's just giving up.

Fenway has more than 38,496 now? Geez, they've added a lot since I moved there. And I didn't know PNC was so small.

Fenway
01-02-2006, 12:17 AM
Mna, that's just giving up.

Fenway has more than 38,496 now? Geez, they've added a lot since I moved there. And I didn't know PNC was so small.

Fenway is supposed to have 39,000 by Opening Day

they are adding seats on the roof and increasing standing room ( which is counted towards capacity )

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ballpark/seating.jsp

santo=dorf
01-02-2006, 01:22 AM
Only a matter of time until the FOBB's start bragging about having the highest Wins/seating Capacity. :rolleyes:

batmanZoSo
01-02-2006, 01:22 AM
That doesn't look to bad. The lettering beats plain old empty seats at least.

It's a shame that they added that big half-a-stadium monstrosity in center field. Looking at pictures of the park in the 80s, it was actually a decent looking park. They just had about 25-30 rows of seats like the Cell and a lot of greenery and hills in the background. The place is probably the worst in baseball next to the Metrodome lately, though, in my opinion.

dcb56
01-02-2006, 01:30 AM
The affected seating areas at McAfee Coliseum, as well as the upper-level seating area in the football structure, will be covered with a tarpaulin. Young said the tarp will be decorated to "reflect the team's rich history and take advantage of marketing opportunities."

So they are essentially going to cover the entire upper deck seating areas with ginormous garbage bags? That'll certainly spruce the Mausoleum up!

ChiSoxRowand
01-02-2006, 02:02 AM
It sure sucks that there will be no more $8 seats.

FarWestChicago
01-02-2006, 02:32 AM
So they are essentially going to cover the entire upper deck seating areas with ginormous garbage bags? That'll certainly spruce the Mausoleum up!A "ginormous garbage bag" would be quite an improvement to Mt. Davis.

SoxFanSince67
01-02-2006, 08:38 AM
The Oakland Coliseum is a great place to see a Rollings Stone concert, but not so good for watching a baseball game.

C-Dawg
01-02-2006, 08:56 AM
It's a shame that they added that big half-a-stadium monstrosity in center field.

I hope they find a way to remove it - think of what that section does to block fresh air, and wind. Its higher than the rest of the park.

MrRoboto83
01-02-2006, 09:46 AM
This does not make any sense.

SOXSINCE'70
01-02-2006, 10:27 AM
:eloaiza:
"Hey,i'm great at filling the seats.
Come watch me slaughter the mexican
pitching strikeout record book in 2006".:roflmao: :roflmao:

skobabe8
01-02-2006, 12:41 PM
I hope they find a way to remove it - think of what that section does to block fresh air, and wind. Its higher than the rest of the park.

Only problem is that they just built it. And Davis wanted it.

buehrle4cy05
01-02-2006, 01:12 PM
Only problem is that they just built it. And Davis wanted it.

As long as Al Davis is owning the Raiders, Mt. Davis will stay in center, blocking what used to be a great view of the mountains.

Brian26
01-02-2006, 02:58 PM
I know a guy who lives out there, almost smack dab between SF and Oakland. Even though he's a Giants fan, he used to go to 15 A's games every year because of the Wednesday promotion they had ($2 upper deck seats and $1 hotdogs). I was blown away the first time he told me about that. It just shows how badly they were trying to give those tickets away.

spiffie
01-03-2006, 01:53 AM
Obviously not enough Oakland residents subscribe to Baseball Prospectus, or they would not pass up a chance to watch a team put together by the greatest GM of all time.

HomeFish
01-03-2006, 02:07 AM
I'm in California twice a year, and I always get on the BART at the Coliseum stop, so I've gotten a good look at it (but never gone inside). From the outside, that stadium looks extremely dilapidated. The red McAfee signs they added just clash so strongly with the green -- it makes it look worse.

It needs all the aesthetic help it can get.

For those of us who never were inside, what exactly is the eyesore in CF you're talking about?

MUsoxfan
01-03-2006, 02:15 AM
For those of us who never were inside, what exactly is the eyesore in CF you're talking about?

The giant upper deck that was built for the Raiders. From what I can tell it was a total waste because it blocks the view of the mountains for baseball games and remains largely unoccupied for Raider games

Blueprint1
01-03-2006, 04:01 AM
The giant upper deck that was built for the Raiders. From what I can tell it was a total waste because it blocks the view of the mountains for baseball games and remains largely unoccupied for Raider games

I believe its mostly filled with luxury boxes. Thats huge revenue for a football team. Football teams rely on the government to build them stadiums for their eight regular season home games a year. Now thats a waste of money.
I wonder how many Bears games it would take to bring in 900 million to the city of Chicago.

wdelaney72
01-03-2006, 09:13 AM
A "ginormous garbage bag" would be quite an improvement to Mt. Davis.

:rolling:
Every time I hear that monstrosity referred to as "Mt. Davis".

Fenway
01-03-2006, 09:52 AM
Before Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oakland%20Coliseum%20660x440.JPG
After Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oak%20hp%20view%20660x440.JPG

Chicken Dinner
01-03-2006, 10:42 AM
Just another reason the A's will move to either Sac or San Jose.

dcb56
01-03-2006, 10:45 AM
Before Mt. Davis

After Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oak%20hp%20view%20660x440.JPG

Hey, at least they added green seats!

MiamiSpartan
01-03-2006, 11:17 AM
The Marlins will be shutting down both decks at Dolphins Stadium shortly...

wdelaney72
01-03-2006, 02:11 PM
I believe "Mt. Davis" would have been a requirement in order for the Raiders to play in Oakland. I believe there's a 60,000 minimum seating requirement for a stadium to house an NFL team.

DSpivack
01-03-2006, 03:28 PM
I know a guy who lives out there, almost smack dab between SF and Oakland. Even though he's a Giants fan, he used to go to 15 A's games every year because of the Wednesday promotion they had ($2 upper deck seats and $1 hotdogs). I was blown away the first time he told me about that. It just shows how badly they were trying to give those tickets away.

Smack dab between the two? What would that be, Treasure Island?

Fenway
01-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Smack dab between the two? What would that be, Treasure Island?

I was thinking
http://www.alcatraz.cc/images/500/Alcatraz_picture.jpg

MUsoxfan
01-03-2006, 03:44 PM
I believe "Mt. Davis" would have been a requirement in order for the Raiders to play in Oakland. I believe there's a 60,000 minimum seating requirement for a stadium to house an NFL team.
The capacity of the RCA Dome is 57,890. However the Colts are getting a new stadium in a year or two.

Ol' No. 2
01-03-2006, 04:17 PM
Fenway is supposed to have 39,000 by Opening Day

they are adding seats on the roof and increasing standing room ( which is counted towards capacity )

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ballpark/seating.jspWhat's next, seats suspended on wires over the field?

Fenway
01-03-2006, 04:20 PM
What's next, seats suspended on wires over the field?

don't give them any ideas :angry:

as of now 2 of the light towers are gone and they building like crazy on the roof

wdelaney72
01-04-2006, 04:20 PM
The capacity of the RCA Dome is 57,890. However the Colts are getting a new stadium in a year or two.

According to http://www.ballparks.com, the seating capacity for football is 60,272. I don't mean to split hairs. I used 60,000 as a guess. I don't have any documentation fo this rule, but I seem to recall it being used as an excuse while Soldier Field was being renovated. It was given as a reason as to why the Bears wouldn't be allowed to play at USCF and the Shrine.

PKalltheway
01-05-2006, 11:48 PM
Before Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oakland%20Coliseum%20660x440.JPG
After Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oak%20hp%20view%20660x440.JPG

:(: Wow...just looking at the before and after pictures is simply depressing. The park honestly didn't look that bad back then especially the view of the hills in the upper deck. Will somebody tell me why they can't honestly build a new stadium. I heard they were trying to, but what's keeping them?

hsnterprize
01-06-2006, 01:28 PM
The saddest thing about this whole "Mt. Davis" thing is, as you can see with the pictures, Oakland Alameda County Coliseum (the stadium's name before is was renamed McAfee Coliseum, was a beautiful place to watch baseball. Sure it was a cookie-cutter of sorts, but the seating arrangement, the mountains in the distance, and the baseball-only feel of the place was very nice. I went there in 1986 to visit my uncle who has since passed away. He took me and my cousin to see the A's beat the Blue Jays that afternoon, and the place was simply beautiful. I even met a nice guy from Napa Valley who went there to see the game.

Al Davis simply ruined a nice ballpark. Granted, it was a multi-purpose stadium at first, but when the Raiders moved to Los Angeles, Oakland's stadium was very nice when it was baseball only. Now, it's a wreck waiting to be replaced. Not to mention, that "Fenway Park with a bit of Petco and palm trees" looking new place the A's are proposing looks totally weird.

skobabe8
01-06-2006, 04:27 PM
:(: Wow...just looking at the before and after pictures is simply depressing. The park honestly didn't look that bad back then especially the view of the hills in the upper deck. Will somebody tell me why they can't honestly build a new stadium. I heard they were trying to, but what's keeping them?

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:AMTmiEDQoBoJ:http://www.hasslefreeclipart.com/clipart_money/dollar_sign2.gif (http://www.hasslefreeclipart.com/clipart_money/dollar_sign2.gif)

(Or lack-there-of)

wdelaney72
01-06-2006, 07:50 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:AMTmiEDQoBoJ:http://www.hasslefreeclipart.com/clipart_money/dollar_sign2.gif (http://www.hasslefreeclipart.com/clipart_money/dollar_sign2.gif)

(Or lack-there-of)

Like all other cities being held hostage by sports teams, the issue has to do with how much can the team extort from the city (taxpayers).

Fuller_Schettman
01-06-2006, 08:54 PM
Just another reason the A's will move to either Sac or San Jose.

As logical as it may seem, San Jose will never happen. MLB considers the San Jose area to be a part of the San Francisco franchise area, and the Giants will never give permission to the A's to locate there. So really, it is either Oakland or Vegas...

Hitmen77
01-06-2006, 09:01 PM
As logical as it may seem, San Jose will never happen. MLB considers the San Jose area to be a part of the San Francisco franchise area, and the Giants will never give permission to the A's to locate there. So really, it is either Oakland or Vegas...

Wow, I can't wait until Vegas becomes the next two team city with the NL Marlins and the AL A's!!! :tongue:

Hitmen77
01-06-2006, 09:03 PM
Fenway is supposed to have 39,000 by Opening Day

they are adding seats on the roof and increasing standing room ( which is counted towards capacity )

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ballpark/seating.jsp
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I'm amazed that the can squeeze almost as much capacity into Fenway as exists at The Cell.

Brian26
01-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Smack dab between the two? What would that be, Treasure Island?

Sorry, that was a poor choice of words. I meant he lives the same distance between the two parks, not at the mid-point of a linear line between the two. My mistake.

Fenway
01-06-2006, 09:10 PM
I'm amazed that the can squeeze almost as much capacity into Fenway as exists at The Cell.

squeeze is the understatement of the year

the reason there was never an upper deck to begin with was the park is built on filled in land of the old Back Bay. I *hope* they know what they doing as i don't want to be there if the Back Bay swallows the park up

Brian26
01-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Before Mt. Davis
http://home.earthlink.net/~amingamarian/Oakland%20Coliseum%20660x440.JPG


The best part of the old set-up was the grassy areas above the outfield seats.

MUsoxfan
01-06-2006, 09:29 PM
squeeze is the understatement of the year

the reason there was never an upper deck to begin with was the park is built on filled in land of the old Back Bay. I *hope* they know what they doing as i don't want to be there if the Back Bay swallows the park up


People that go to Fenway don't go there for comfort, this I know all too well

Fenway
01-06-2006, 09:36 PM
People that go to Fenway don't go there for comfort, this I know all too well

ya got that right
http://static.flickr.com/33/39093209_2132ddc83d_m.jpg

1951Campbell
01-06-2006, 09:56 PM
People that go to Fenway don't go there for comfort, this I know all too well

No doubt, those seats are like 11" wide. Legroom? I'm only 5'9" and after a game I feel like I've flown to New Zealand, coach.

soxinem1
01-07-2006, 08:32 AM
Wow, I can't wait until Vegas becomes the next two team city with the NL Marlins and the AL A's!!! :tongue:

I can see the new names now, the Las Vegas Dealers and the Nevada Goldrush, live from Mojavi Desert Stadium and Stardust Park!

C-Dawg
01-08-2006, 10:00 AM
The best part of the old set-up was the grassy areas above the outfield seats.

Oh, but look at all those cool zig-zags they have in the outfield wall now! That's what all the cool ballparks have.

FireMariotti
01-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Not to mention, that "Fenway Park with a bit of Petco and palm trees" looking new place the A's are proposing looks totally weird.

Agreed. I just looked at the model of it on ballparks.com. It is a perfect example of when a ballpark becomes too quirky.

Fenway
01-30-2006, 10:12 AM
Boston Fire Department has now listed Fenway's capacity for 2006 as 38,805


With all those seats on the roof I fear the entire park will sink into the Back Bay :o:

Contractors are working two 10-hour shifts each day at Fenway, readying the park for the home opener. According to one club executive, had the Red Sox gone deep into the postseason, and had the winter weather been any less cooperative, completing the renovations by the opener would have been in question. When the facelift is complete, Fenway's fire-code capacity will be increased from 36,298 to 38,805 .

SOXintheBURGH
01-30-2006, 10:23 AM
had the Red Sox gone deep into the postseason, and had the winter weather been any less cooperative, completing the renovations by the opener would have been in question. When the facelift is complete, Fenway's fire-code capacity will be increased from 36,298 to 38,805 .


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