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Fenway
12-20-2005, 03:20 PM
notice the big crowd :D:

http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tk44(wgn2).jpg

rocky biddle
12-20-2005, 03:25 PM
Through thick and thin baby.

itsnotrequired
12-20-2005, 03:28 PM
:santo

"I tell you Pat, you have to love these Cubbie fans! Most loyal fans in all of sports!"

C-Dawg
12-20-2005, 03:36 PM
I was just reading a magazine account about the Cubs' 23-22 loss to the Phillies in 1979 (a game I remember seeing on TV as a kid) - they said the attendance that day was just under 15,000. Probably didn't even have the UD open for that.

SOXPHILE
12-20-2005, 03:37 PM
No surprise here. I remember going to games when I was a kid, pre-1984. There would be anywhere from 7000- 10,000 people there. Sometimes, even less. Many times, the upper deck was CLOSED. I specifically remember this one time, I believe it was either 1979 or 1980, my mom commenting on how she was listening to the Cub game on the radio, and they announced the attendance at about 1000 or so, and that Lou Boudreau and Vince Lloyd had remarked that they weren't even sure if it was that many. This was on a beautiful summer day, at "beautiful Wrigley Field." I laugh every time I hear about "die hard Cub fans, the greatest fans in the world", and the stupid attendance argument from the criminally dumb blue hatted ones.

Tekijawa
12-20-2005, 03:40 PM
That's probably a security camera for watching all the Latin Kings that owned that neighborhood around that time.

daveeym
12-20-2005, 03:46 PM
My mom always used to tell stories about how if they only would have kept their baseball cards from their childhood they'd be rich. They'd go down and get Banks and everyone's autographs because no one was at the games and you could just walk up and get anything signed. Unfortunately they didn't think anything of it and used em as noisemakers on their bikes when they'd get home.

Hitmen77
12-20-2005, 03:55 PM
You don't even have to go that far back ('74) to see that many empty seats. The link below shows the Cubs attendance history. As you can see, they didn't have their season average consistently exceed 30,000 until 1998. It was really people coming to watch Sosa that drove their attendance avg. above 30k.

Typical Cub fans/Chicago media revisionist history to make it sound like the Cubs "always" sold out their games.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/cubsatte.shtml

palehozenychicty
12-20-2005, 04:04 PM
This quote says it all about the Flubs:

"Wrigley Field (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/stadium/wrigley_field.shtml) fans go in for resigned sarcasm; it befits a franchise whose top-level incompetence has been a marvel of consistency since World War II." - Thomas Boswell in Why Time Begins on Opening Day (1984)

Fenway
12-20-2005, 04:11 PM
meanwhile 8.2 miles south

http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tk41(wgn2).jpg

JoeyCora28
12-20-2005, 04:32 PM
:sahaf

Lies, lies, all of this are lies!! As modern Iraqi photography analysis can prove, this picture of the great warriors stadium called Wrigley was taken hours before the epic battle of Cubs vs. Expos was to begin. I can see the mighty Steve Swisher entertaining the loyal fans with his practice batting blasts!

daveeym
12-20-2005, 04:57 PM
Until the late 80's early 90's it seems that when one team was up in attendance the other was usually down. Hmmm.

cheeses_h_rice
12-20-2005, 05:20 PM
1980 (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=58833).

Fenway
12-20-2005, 09:56 PM
This is my Dad 1966

http://www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/rca-tk43(whdh).jpg

SoxFanSince67
12-21-2005, 09:40 AM
My brother, a couple friends and I attended a Cubs games in 83. We were sitting in our seats when just prior to the game when a couple insisted we were in their seats. When we examined our tickets we realized they were for the previous day's game - they had let us in on old tickets. But, it wasn't any big deal as we just moved down one row as there were plenty of empty seats.

TommyJohn
12-21-2005, 09:53 AM
Hell, I was vending a game at Wrigley Field the last weekend of the 1985
season, after the 1984 NL East title. There were literally 3,000 people
in the stands. Ernie Banks was there with some people, and they sat in
the last few rows of the lower deck and went practically unnoticed. I was
able to go up and get his autograph with no trouble. Of course, most of the
people there probably didn't know who he was anyway.

Hitmen77
12-21-2005, 12:47 PM
Hey, we don't even have to go back that far to find alot of empty seats at the Urinal.

In 1995, the Cubs were still in the running for the wild card spot during the last week of the season and had just won 7 in a row. The attendance at home against Houston on 9/28/95? 14,000!

What about a game a few days earlier against the Cardinals? Surely a Cubs-Cards game would have been packed. Attendance for that series? 18,000, 20,000, and (finally a decent crowd) 31,000.

It's another piece of Cubs revisionist history that they have always sold out.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/schedule.php?y=1995&t=CHN

C-Dawg
12-21-2005, 01:43 PM
Wow, I'd never checked out the attendance stats at the baseball-almanac site! So the Cubs averaged 10,672 per game in 1981, for a season total of only a half-million!?!! That's pretty pathetic (yes I realize there was a strike that year). But the way the media tells it, one would never suspect they would have drawn less than 2 million as recently as 1997 and 1998.

Its common knowledge, amongst Sox fans at least, that the 1983 Sox were the first Chicago team to draw over 2 million; the phenomenon of the Cubs selling out every single home game is certainly a recent one and not well reported.