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Fenway
12-13-2005, 12:05 PM
What is the over/under on how many games this brainstorm lasts? I say two tops
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-051212wrigley,1,2687252.story?coll=cs-cubs-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true


Not only are the Cubs trying to accommodate their neighbors, they have removed a metal gate from the wall and are leaving an open space in the right-field corner that offers passersby on Sheffield Avenue a free, ground-level view of the action.

The Cubs are calling it a "knothole," conjuring up a Rockwellian image of an old wooden outfield fence where youngsters peered through a hole in the wall.

Actually, it's a rectangular space about 20 feet long where a couple of dozen people can gather to watch the game behind a wire-mesh fence. The San Francisco Giants offer a similar view of games at SBC Park from a vantage point behind the right-field grandstand.

The idea of watching the Cubs for free, even if limited to a partial view of the field, is likely to appeal to a large number of fans.


meanwhile the new bleachers begin to take shape
http://images.bleedcubbieblue.com/images/admin/wrigley1211a.jpg
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SOXPHILE
12-13-2005, 12:09 PM
In todays Cubune, there's an article by Paul Sullivan on the 20 foot "knothole" being built as part of the Urinal bleacher expansion, so people can watch the game from the street in some "Rockwellian" manner, like kids looking through a wooden fence. In the article, they quote one Terri Johnson, a "local architect and bleacher regular". (They fail to mention that she is also one of Chicago's dumbest people). Ms. Johnson is peeved about the bleacher expansion, saying they're ruining the sightlines, etc. She goes on to lament that the isle in the back of the bleachers will be gone because the new seats will go all the way back to the fence. Ms. Johnson says : "There goes the Champs Elysees of Wrigley Field". :rolleyes:

Hooo boy. Well, among other things, France is known for losing alot, so, maybe she does have something there.....

Tekijawa
12-13-2005, 12:13 PM
I think it's more for Dusty Baker, so he can look out at the beer garden at Murphy's for possible "interns" to help get in the business!

kittle42
12-13-2005, 12:16 PM
The fact that the Cubs charge at all to watch their games says enough.

itsnotrequired
12-13-2005, 12:18 PM
The fact that the Cubs charge at all to watch their games says enough.

How about the bozos that will be camping out to get a "prime" spot up against the fence?:?:

Fenway
12-13-2005, 12:23 PM
How about the bozos that will be camping out to get a "prime" spot up against the fence?:?:

These 2 will fit right in


http://www.ronniewoowoo.com/images/newfan5.jpg

Jerko
12-13-2005, 12:29 PM
Knothole on Sheffield? Isn't that what that RF fan at Fenway tried to do last year when he took a swing at him? OH, Sheffield AVENUE. I had forgotton about that place.

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 12:30 PM
These 2 will fit right in


http://www.ronniewoowoo.com/images/newfan5.jpg

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

Awwwyeaaahhh, bromeister!!! Diggin' this SWEET-assed view right here, about 30 feet back from the fence!!! Nothing better than celebrating a little C-U-B-bie baseball with 300 of my best buds, jammed up here like cattle on Sheffield freaking Avenue!!! I can't wait to watch our awesome center fielder Corey "5 Tools" Patterson roaming the hallowed grounds of Wrigley from this suh-weet view....hey, Chad, toss me another Natty Light, bro!!!

Mickster
12-13-2005, 12:33 PM
http://www.kleecker.com/assets/images/db_images/db_beavis_cornholio1.gif
I am cornholio. I need tee pee for my "knothole".

Fenway
12-13-2005, 12:35 PM
Knothole on Sheffield? Isn't that what that RF fan at Fenway tried to do last year when he took a swing at him? OH, Sheffield AVENUE. I had forgotton about that place.


If that security guy didn't show up when he did, this would have made Pacers/Pistons look like a Sunday picnic.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/04/14/2002242092.jpg

Realist
12-13-2005, 12:35 PM
How about the bozos that will be camping out to get a "prime" spot up against the fence?:?:

... and how easy is it to reach them with a drive by Supersoaker attack? :cool:

Flight #24
12-13-2005, 12:36 PM
http://www.kleecker.com/assets/images/db_images/db_beavis_cornholio1.gif
I am cornholio. I need tee pee for my "knothole".

For the love of all things that are good, somebody quick photoshop Hendry's or Dusty's head onto that thing!

Bobby Thigpen
12-13-2005, 12:39 PM
The bad thing about the expansion is that it is already the most structurally sound portion of Wrigley.

Tekijawa
12-13-2005, 12:42 PM
I wonder where the Pick Pockets will have to line up to get their shots at 300 drunk people pushing against each other to get a look at the game going on inside...

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2004/03/08/guiness-inside.jpg
"BRILLIANT!"

It may seem like a good idea, but if I were a man of lesser morals, this would be the perfect set up to snatching a few pocket books from out of towners!

JoeyCora28
12-13-2005, 12:50 PM
Hooo boy. Well, among other things, France is known for losing alot, so, maybe she does have something there.....

:woo-woo

They don't take a lot of baths in France either!!!

monkeypants
12-13-2005, 12:52 PM
How is this supposed "knothole" going to see through a brick wall and ivy? Or is it an elevated walkway that is above the outfield wall?

D. TODD
12-13-2005, 01:02 PM
I was going to make a joke about other possible uses in the wrigleyville area for the "knothole", but I think that would be a mistake. Good luck to all the Scrub fans and their new obstructed view.

NardiWasHere
12-13-2005, 01:08 PM
How is this supposed "knothole" going to see through a brick wall and ivy? Or is it an elevated walkway that is above the outfield wall?


I think Wrigley field is below ground level. Aren't most parks like this except the Cell? I remember reading here that one of the reasons the upperdeck seems so bad to some people is that since the whole structure is at ground level, the highest level of the Cell is higher than most other upper-decks. I was in Detroit over the summer and you can look down on Comerica from the sidewalk. Its sort of a cool feature.

Irishsox1
12-13-2005, 01:18 PM
Mod edit: I'm gay(Ph13 in case there was any confusion) and I have no idea what you are trying to imply, but I imagine that it isn't nice. Watch it.

SoxFan78
12-13-2005, 01:23 PM
I say this lasts for about 2 months. Then the Cubs will find some way to start charging for this.

For the big games at the urinal, I have a feeling things are gonna get violent for people waiting to see inside this knothole.

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 01:28 PM
I would just like the mods to know that I have really restrained from making yet another play on words with respect to this little development.

:wink:

cleanwsox
12-13-2005, 01:34 PM
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/6523/hendry3vp.jpg


Ask and you shall receive.

MarySwiss
12-13-2005, 01:36 PM
Wow, how dumb is this? :o:

I saw the headline but didn't bother clicking the story because a) it's the Flubs, and b) I just naturally assumed that it was about them putting in a knothole--the normal kind--during offseason construction to try to pique people's curiosity.

Once again, when it comes to inanity, the real thing tops anything any of us could come up with in our fevered imaginations. But for those of you who think this idea will be a flash-in-the-pan, get ready for the inevitable stories in the papers about how successful the concept is and how it proves that the Flubs believe in "giving back to the community." Or some similar drivel.

Fenway
12-13-2005, 01:39 PM
Wow, how dumb is this? :o:

I saw the headline but didn't bother clicking the story because a) it's the Flubs, and b) I just naturally assumed that it was about them putting in a knothole--the normal kind--during offseason construction to try to pique people's curiosity.



Why just this morning Dagwood Bumstead was at Wrigley Field
:smile:

whitesoxwin
12-13-2005, 01:43 PM
I've said it before:
The Flubs joint is a dump--not a frigin' shrine.
No place in America can you go to see so many idiots crammed into the same urinal!
The Cubune Co. appears to be continually spending more on PR about a crappy baseball field than thinking about a new, SAFE (don't need hardhats), state-of-the-art field.
I just wish (it seems) intelligence in Chicago wouldn't end once you go north across the river.
And those people are also Bear fans...??
It is a strange world we live in.

Fenway
12-13-2005, 01:47 PM
The Heckler chimes in on a related development

http://www.theheckler.com/index.php?page=0000-DH-05-11-21&idrub=64&idsite=1&PHPSESSID=44c2109ccbccdd3b35b93b5516b69809


According to local archaeologists, the remains belonged to a fan of the 1945 Chicago Cubs, the last Cubs team to make it to the World Series.

"Judging by the look on the fan's face, and the level of alcohol in the petrified bones, he apparently drank himself into a stupor before falling into a crevasse behind the bleachers," said Martin Feingold, chief paleontologist at Chicago's Museum of Science & Industry. "He laid there undisturbed for eons, until he was spotted by Mr. Gregowski this morning."

The find occurred as Gregowski's crew was preparing to lay the foundation for the expanded Wrigley Field bleachers.

"Considering the smile on his face, I'd assume he died before Game 7 of the 1945 World Series (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1945_WS.shtml), when he still thought the Cubs were going to win," said Cubs GM Jim Hendry. "To be honest, I thought it took much longer for bones to petrify ... but I suppose it has been a long time since we won a pennant of any sort."

When asked what the franchise planned to do with the historic find, Cubs president and CEO Andy MacPhail shrugged.

"Well, that depends," he said. "How much do you think people will pay to see the last happy Cubs fan? I'm guessing quite a bit."

Clembasbal
12-13-2005, 01:53 PM
Why just this morning Dagwood Bumstead was at Wrigley Field
:smile:

Fantastic, I know it is a construction zone, but mane everything about that strip glems Wrigley Field.

Fenway
12-13-2005, 01:57 PM
Fantastic, I know it is a construction zone, but mane everything about that strip glems Wrigley Field.

sure does

with no standing room what is WGN-TV going to do now?
http://www.theheckler.com/public/spec/upload/girl1.179.jpg

The Racehorse
12-13-2005, 02:00 PM
The Heckler chimes in on a related development

http://www.theheckler.com/index.php?page=0000-DH-05-11-21&idrub=64&idsite=1&PHPSESSID=44c2109ccbccdd3b35b93b5516b69809


According to local archaeologists, the remains belonged to a fan of the 1945 Chicago Cubs, the last Cubs team to make it to the World Series.

"Judging by the look on the fan's face, and the level of alcohol in the petrified bones, he apparently drank himself into a stupor before falling into a crevasse behind the bleachers," said Martin Feingold, chief paleontologist at Chicago's Museum of Science & Industry. "He laid there undisturbed for eons, until he was spotted by Mr. Gregowski this morning."

The find occurred as Gregowski's crew was preparing to lay the foundation for the expanded Wrigley Field bleachers.

"Considering the smile on his face, I'd assume he died before Game 7 of the 1945 World Series (http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1945_WS.shtml), when he still thought the Cubs were going to win," said Cubs GM Jim Hendry. "To be honest, I thought it took much longer for bones to petrify ... but I suppose it has been a long time since we won a pennant of any sort."

When asked what the franchise planned to do with the historic find, Cubs president and CEO Andy MacPhail shrugged.

"Well, that depends," he said. "How much do you think people will pay to see the last happy Cubs fan? I'm guessing quite a bit."

The archaeologists still got some digging to do before they find the last Cubs fan who actually saw them win the WS.

:kneeslap:

Fenway
12-13-2005, 02:10 PM
The archaeologists still got some digging to do before they find the last Cubs fan who actually saw them win the WS.

:kneeslap:

They have to go to the West Side to do that
About two miles west of downtown Chicago. Left field (E), South Wood Street; third base (N), West Polk Street; first base (W), South Lincoln (Wolcott) Avenue; right field (S), West Taylor Street.

That is where the West Side Grounds were in 1908 today it is the

http://uillinoismedcenter.org/common/images/logo_inv1.gif (http://uillinoismedcenter.org/)

The Racehorse
12-13-2005, 02:26 PM
They have to go to the West Side to do that
About two miles west of downtown Chicago. Left field (E), South Wood Street; third base (N), West Polk Street; first base (W), South Lincoln (Wolcott) Avenue; right field (S), West Taylor Street.

That is where the West Side Grounds were in 1908 today it is the

http://uillinoismedcenter.org/common/images/logo_inv1.gif (http://uillinoismedcenter.org/)

Thanks for the info fenway. :cool:

I just had a crazy thought... because someday I plan on living in Chicago, and I'm currently training to be a radiographer, I very well could someday trample the sacred site of the last Flubbie WS championship, all the while wearing Sox scrubs! (http://www.nursesdirect.com/productxl.html?t_q=FC677WHSX)

LOL, life just keeps on getting better. :D:

hawkjt
12-13-2005, 02:42 PM
I smell a new beer garden springing up- throw up a fence,some picnic tables and a beer tap and they will start charging $20 bucks and it will be as packed as murphys is during the game. Let the line start forming.

Fenway
12-13-2005, 02:47 PM
I smell a new beer garden springing up- throw up a fence,some picnic tables and a beer tap and they will start charging $20 bucks and it will be as packed as murphys is during the game. Let the line start forming.

I am sure the Tribune has noticed what the Red Sox have done with Yawkey Way

City allows them to take over the street during a game
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:JTQBxpM8SYQJ:http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/4778278.jpg (http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/4778278.jpg)http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8QpCxQMVe2MJ:http://pages.map.com/pinto/oit/FenwayPlaza.jpg (http://pages.map.com/pinto/oit/FenwayPlaza.jpg)

Brewski
12-13-2005, 02:48 PM
How is this supposed "knothole" going to see through a brick wall and ivy? Or is it an elevated walkway that is above the outfield wall?

There is a double metal gate in the OF brick wall near the foul pole in RF that opens up on Sheffield. If this is replaced by a screen like Bullpen Bar, you have a "knothole." Remember when the guy who couldn't walk but ran across country for Santo's charity entered there?

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 03:10 PM
I am sure the Tribune has noticed what the Red Sox have done with Yawkey Way

City allows them to take over the street during a game
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:JTQBxpM8SYQJ:http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/4778278.jpg (http://2.srv.fotopages.com/2/4778278.jpg)http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8QpCxQMVe2MJ:http://pages.map.com/pinto/oit/FenwayPlaza.jpg (http://pages.map.com/pinto/oit/FenwayPlaza.jpg)

Fenway, I was at Fenway last year, and it seemed like the Yawkey stuff was semi-permanent. So you're saying this stuff comes down once the season is over?

MarySwiss
12-13-2005, 03:11 PM
I smell a new beer garden springing up- throw up a fence,some picnic tables and a beer tap and they will start charging $20 bucks and it will be as packed as murphys is during the game. Let the line start forming.

Now, this is getting downright creepy! About ten minutes ago, I mentioned this goofy knothole plan to Mr.MarySwiss (recovering Cubs fan), and the first thing he said was, "I'll bet they put up a hot dog stand or something right next to it."

eriqjaffe
12-13-2005, 03:18 PM
The knothole will be free, but the Cubs will enforce a two-drink minimum.

Maybe that shouldn't be in teal...

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 03:21 PM
Now, this is getting downright creepy! About ten minutes ago, I mentioned this goofy knothole plan to Mr.MarySwiss (recovering Cubs fan), and the first thing he said was, "I'll bet they put up a hot dog stand or something right next to it."

Believe me, if the Cubs could get city approval to erect an entire restaurant and pub around this stupid ****ing knothole, they would do it in a flash.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

Bro, check this out!!! I can pay $5.50 for an Old Style tallboy and $4 for one of these dried out Vienna hotdogs OUTSIDE THE PARK now!!! I totally freakin' love living on the blessed Nizzorth Sizzide!

MarySwiss
12-13-2005, 03:24 PM
Believe me, if the Cubs could get city approval to erect an entire restaurant and pub around this stupid ****ing knothole, they would do it in a flash.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

Bro, check this out!!! I can pay $5.50 for an Old Style tallboy and $4 for one of these dried out Vienna hotdogs OUTSIDE THE PARK now!!! I totally freakin' love living on the blessed Nizzorth Sizzide!

Cheeses, you might want to copyright that idea. You know, just in case! :cool:

Baby Fisk
12-13-2005, 03:25 PM
Bro, check this out!!! I can pay $5.50 for an Old Style tallboy and $4 for one of these dried out Vienna hotdogs OUTSIDE THE PARK now!!! I totally freakin' love living on the blessed Nizzorth Sizzide!
*wheezing uncontrollably* :rolling:

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 03:29 PM
*wheezing uncontrollably* :rolling:

I bow in the direction of the original "Wrigleyville Frat Boy" sensei.

:redface:

Fenway
12-13-2005, 03:31 PM
Fenway, I was at Fenway last year, and it seemed like the Yawkey stuff was semi-permanent. So you're saying this stuff comes down once the season is over?

Yes it becomes a city street again ( and during the summer when the team isn't home)

MarySwiss
12-13-2005, 03:33 PM
After taking Cheeses's restaurant and pub idea into careful consideration and given permit limitations and space constraints, why they couldn't just build a really tall, thin restaurant and pub, say 20 stories high, with maybe two tables per floor?

Then again, who needs tables? :cool:

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 03:39 PM
After taking Cheeses's restaurant and pub idea into careful consideration and given permit limitations and space constraints, why they couldn't just build a really tall, thin restaurant and pub, say 20 stories high, with maybe two tables per floor?

Then again, who needs tables? :cool:

http://www.oldfieldsaccess.com.au/html/scaffolding.jpg

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

Oh man, this is the nuts!!! I got seats on Scaffold #1 for only $125 apiece!!! That's the highest Scaffold section you can get, for all you dummy southsiders! I can only see home plate on the field, but most importantly, I have a Grade A primo spot to see Harry singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame." Rock!!!

itsnotrequired
12-13-2005, 03:41 PM
Oh man, this is the nuts!!! I got seats on Scaffold #1 for only $125 apiece!!! That's the highest Scaffold section you can get, for all you dummy southsiders! I can only see home plate on the field, but most importantly, I have a Grade A primo spot to see Harry singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame." Rock!!!

Keep it up!:D:

Fenway
12-13-2005, 03:42 PM
meanwhile over on a Cubs board the main objection is that people may not be able to smoke anymore

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=27535

Are these people that dense not to know about the new smoking laws in Chicago that include sports arenas?


oh wait

Taverns are exempt for 2 1/2 years and I guess many of them only think Wrigley is a bar

The Racehorse
12-13-2005, 03:49 PM
meanwhile over on a Cubs board the main objection is that people may not be able to smoke anymore

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=27535 (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=27535)

Are these people that dense not to know about the new smoking laws in Chicago that include sports arenas?


oh wait

Taverns are exempt for 2 1/2 years and I guess many of them only think Wrigley is a bar

... took a quick glance and saw this;
too bad Sosa still isn't in RF so that this could be marketed better. "The Sosa Hole" kinda like Pensky's pole or some of the names of the holes at Augusta.

Forget the dopey-Sosa comment, or the snobby golf reference. My question is, when did Roger Penske get his own pole?

SOXPHILE
12-13-2005, 03:55 PM
meanwhile over on a Cubs board the main objection is that people may not be able to smoke anymore

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=27535

Are these people that dense not to know about the new smoking laws in Chicago that include sports arenas?


oh wait

Taverns are exempt for 2 1/2 years and I guess many of them only think Wrigley is a bar

Do you really have to ask that ?:cool:

Now, on the other hand, if they passed some law regulating the sale of white wine spritzers, red & blue marte gras beads, the wearing of floppy Cub hats and those Cub visors (backwards, forwards, or upside down), and use of cell phones, all within a certain radius of the Urinal, then they may have a problem on their hands.

Hangar18
12-13-2005, 03:57 PM
I smell a new beer garden springing up- throw up a fence,some picnic tables and a beer tap and they will start charging $20 bucks and it will be as packed as murphys is during the game. Let the line start forming.

You know thats going to happen now ......all they had to do was "Expand" the bleachers Onto CITY PROPERTY (the sidewalks). This was a land grab thru and thru. The Cubs said they needed the extra seats in the bleachers in "order to remain competitive". BULL now that theyve taken part of a city-right-of-way, they will soon next to encroach on the street, and will be satisfied to make money on the sheep for 81 games. This is a travesty. If anyone is a business owner here in chicago, try to go to City Hall and tell them that you need 6 more feet of the sidewalk, because you need it to "remain competitive", and you'll be Laughed out onto Clark St.

Flight #24
12-13-2005, 03:57 PM
... took a quick glance and saw this;


Forget the dopey-Sosa comment, or the snobby golf reference. My question is, when did Roger Penske get his own pole?

Must....not....get...banned.....

Must....refrain....from....gratuitous.....knothole/Sosa-hole.....jokes.......

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 03:59 PM
... took a quick glance and saw this;


Forget the dopey-Sosa comment, or the snobby golf reference. My question is, when did Roger Penske get his own pole?

There already is a Sosa-hole, if you think about it.

:wink:

Hangar18
12-13-2005, 04:02 PM
And you know whats most IRONIC about all of this? The Cubs have privately complained for years about Bars being able to put tables/chairs and umbrellas outside on city property temporarily, why not them?

Guess the Trib themselves realize that Wrigley is nothing but a giant frat-party/beer-garden

SOXPHILE
12-13-2005, 04:07 PM
:shammy
"I jus' wanna say that I theenk that this knot-hole ees a good idea so all of you Sammy fans can watch Sammy play ball. Righ now, I think I'll be available to come back to ChiCAgo, I would love to come back and play for you all, everybody loves me, no question about it, and more people can see me this way"

itsnotrequired
12-13-2005, 04:11 PM
You know thats going to happen now ......all they had to do was "Expand" the bleachers Onto CITY PROPERTY (the sidewalks). This was a land grab thru and thru. The Cubs said they needed the extra seats in the bleachers in "order to remain competitive". BULL now that theyve taken part of a city-right-of-way, they will soon next to encroach on the street, and will be satisfied to make money on the sheep for 81 games. This is a travesty. If anyone is a business owner here in chicago, try to go to City Hall and tell them that you need 6 more feet of the sidewalk, because you need it to "remain competitive", and you'll be Laughed out onto Clark St.

Lots of local residents have put up a stink over the whole expansion. I'm sure they will be thrilled with additional crowds gathering around a chain link fence to watch baseball from 400' away. They'll be extra honked-off when they start erecting The Scaffold Seats as well as the hot dog stands.:tongue:

MarySwiss
12-13-2005, 04:18 PM
[quote=cheeses_h_rice]http://www.oldfieldsaccess.com.au/html/scaffolding.jpg


Mods, please note: although these scaffolds do somewhat resemble hunting stands, I am taking a pragmatic page out of the "Book of Cheeses" and refraining from indulging in any attempts at humor based on them.

Of course, if Daver has something to add.... :cool:

Max Power
12-13-2005, 04:41 PM
The knot-hole idea is lame, but whatever. I think the guy in the article that was talking about people camping out overnight to get the prime (obstructed view) spots was going a *little* overboard.

Fenway
12-13-2005, 09:23 PM
The knot-hole idea is lame, but whatever. I think the guy in the article that was talking about people camping out overnight to get the prime (obstructed view) spots was going a *little* overboard.

never underestimate Cubs fans

Hitmen77
12-13-2005, 09:56 PM
I think Wrigley field is below ground level. Aren't most parks like this except the Cell?

Wrigley is not below ground level. Many newer parks have fields below ground level, but the Cell isn't the only park at ground level.

I remember reading here that one of the reasons the upperdeck seems so bad to some people is that since the whole structure is at ground level, the highest level of the Cell is higher than most other upper-decks.

So, how does the playing fields relation to "ground level" affect how far the upper deck seats are from the playing field? :?:

I think one of the reasons the upperdeck seems so bad to people is because people like Cub fans and the media keep bashing it. If you think the upper deck seats at the Cell are higher than most upper decks, you should check out Safeco or Bank One, er...Chase Field.

Hitmen77
12-13-2005, 09:59 PM
I don't quite get how this "knothole" will work. Is there going to be a huge alcove that people can crowd into to peek onto the field? Or is it that people will have to peer down a 50 foot tunnel to see the field way at the other end?

Fenway
12-13-2005, 10:01 PM
In the article, they quote one Terri Johnson, a "local architect and bleacher regular". (They fail to mention that she is also one of Chicago's dumbest people)

There are Cubs fans that agree with you about here

This woman is................

..........a friggin' idiot. The Cubs NEVER sold SRO seats for the bleachers anyway. A bleacher is a bleacher whether you sit or stand. All SRO seating is under the grandstands. Once again, how does a reporter find someone who lacks basic knowledge on the subject, but yet is allowed to be published as if they were an expert? Even Ronny Woo is more informed.......

http://bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2005/12/13/103823/95#commenttop

Realist
12-13-2005, 10:27 PM
I think it's a glorious idea. :wink:

cheeses_h_rice
12-13-2005, 10:48 PM
I think it's a glorious idea. :wink:

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

soxruleEP
12-13-2005, 11:42 PM
It'll be two or three games before someone is crushed in the press to see whatever warm body is covering right field.

Then it'll be covered up somehow--at the very least with a coat of Cubbune whitewash.

johnnyg83
12-13-2005, 11:50 PM
It's Kal Daniels or Bobby Mercer.

Juice16
12-14-2005, 08:17 PM
a ferris wheel and elephant rides will be added as well to Waveland Ave. during games.

RedHeadPaleHoser
12-15-2005, 07:35 AM
a ferris wheel and elephant rides will be added as well to Waveland Ave. during games.

So, will the blue pinstriped clowns be on the field or in the street?

Risk
12-15-2005, 09:20 AM
So, will the blue pinstriped clowns be on the field or in the street?

ZING!!!

Risk

Fenway
12-15-2005, 09:22 AM
So, will the blue pinstriped clowns be on the field or in the street?

They should borrow a page from Bill Veeck

http://espn.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/comiskey_circus.jpg

Hangar18
12-15-2005, 10:44 AM
.................. I think the guy in the article that was talking about people camping out overnight to get the prime (obstructed view) spots was going a *little* overboard.

This is whats called a KILEY-ESQE statement. Named for the SunTimes beat writer who doubles as GM/FAN/COLUMNIST/RUMOR-Starter/Propoganda-Pusher and otherwise, a Cub fan blogger who covers the team. This statement is actually a Coded Message, so the hundreds of Blue Sheep who read this will go ......." WHOAHH! Dude, my buddy from Ann Arbor and I are camping out for the knothole seats!"

The Tribune will then run "Knothole a hit with fans" and then revise history and pretend it was there all the time. WGN will then run Gratuitious camera shots of "Fans" milling around the fence, drinking Budweiser, talking on cell-phones, and over-the-top announcer Pat saying "Look at these great cub fans Ronny" to which Santo will say "my goodness, weve got the best fans in baseball"

itsnotrequired
12-15-2005, 10:49 AM
The Tribune will then run "Knothole a hit with fans" and then revise history and pretend it was there all the time. WGN will then run Gratuitious camera shots of "Fans" milling around the fence, drinking Budweiser, talking on cell-phones, and over-the-top announcer Pat saying "Look at these great cub fans Ronny" to which Santo will say "my goodness, weve got the best fans in baseball"

The ultimate move would be to put a fax machine out on the street that only sent things to the broadcast booth.

Pat: "Ronny, lets check out some of the faxes from the Knothole."

Ron: "Reading faxes from the Knothole is a proud, Cubbie tradition."

:rolling:

RallyBowl
12-15-2005, 03:41 PM
The ultimate move would be to put a fax machine out on the street that only sent things to the broadcast booth.

Pat: "Ronny, lets check out some of the faxes from the Knothole."

Ron: "Reading faxes from the Knothole is a proud, Cubbie tradition."

:rolling:




:roflmao: Nice.

Hangar18
12-15-2005, 04:02 PM
The ultimate move would be to put a fax machine out on the street that only sent things to the broadcast booth.

Pat: "Ronny, lets check out some of the faxes from the Knothole."

Ron: "Reading faxes from the Knothole is a proud, Cubbie tradition."

:rolling:

Pat Hughes: "You bet Ronny. Ive got a Fax here from Helga Delfendorf,
a HUGE cub fan from Keokuk Iowa, she says Pat & Ron, Ive been faxing you guys since 1945 when I was a little girl, go go cubbies!"
Ron Santo: " Thank you Helga, gosh weve got the best fans in the world Pat. Shes been Waxing the Cubs since '45"

cws05champ
12-15-2005, 10:54 PM
The only reason they are expanding the bleachers is so they can put as many people out there as possible when the concrete starts falling and taking out tourists from Iowa in the 300 level.
:lurkers

peeonwrigley
12-16-2005, 07:44 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2005-05/17647830.jpg

Awwwyeaaahhh, bromeister!!! Diggin' this SWEET-assed view right here, about 30 feet back from the fence!!! Nothing better than celebrating a little C-U-B-bie baseball with 300 of my best buds, jammed up here like cattle on Sheffield freaking Avenue!!! I can't wait to watch our awesome center fielder Corey "5 Tools" Patterson roaming the hallowed grounds of Wrigley from this suh-weet view....hey, Chad, toss me another Natty Light, bro!!!

This is pretty much the funniest post I've seen in quite a while.