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Fenway
12-10-2005, 01:43 PM
The Red Sox who are fed up with scalpers have come up with a system for 2006 that season ticket holders are not going to like.

The season tickets will be issued as a smart card ( similar to the CTA's Chicago Card ) If a season ticket holder wants to sell them they must go thru the Red Sox. No individial tickets will be printed.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ticketing/replay_faq.jsp

The Red Sox say this system has been used in the UK by soccer teams and has hurt the scalpers.

Can not wait to see how the brokers get around this

chisoxfan83
12-10-2005, 02:32 PM
i wonder if that is the case what are they going to do for people that give them away as part of their business or people who give them to friends? I cant wait to see how all that sahkes out. I do like the idea though

The Critic
12-10-2005, 02:38 PM
Maybe a company using the tickets for clients would have the tickets picked up for each game at will call and notify them by email or phone as to who would be picking the tickets up. Then the user provides an ID and all is well.
(This is assuming that they'd still use paper tickets. Perhaps a temporary guest card of some sort would be provided at will call after notification?)

It sounds like a pretty difficult thing to work out, given the number of season-ticket holders and the number of games involved. Anything they could figure out to help screw scalpers would be perfectly fine by me.

Fenway
12-10-2005, 02:41 PM
i wonder if that is the case what are they going to do for people that give them away as part of their business or people who give them to friends? I cant wait to see how all that sahkes out. I do like the idea though

I'm sure they will figure out something for the corporate customers. Red Sox have been playing hard ball. Last year the team bought tickets from Stub Hub and picked them up at Stub Hub's storefront near the park. They then revoked the season tickets from the accounts in question.

Scalpers are creative. A guy at 35th St station was selling upper deck tickets and then would give you a copy of a ticketmaster seat for downstairs ( the home print out ) so you could access the concourse. The guard at the top of the ramp would just wave people through.

I give the Red Sox credit for trying to solve the problem. Compare that to the Tribune which started its own scalping company.

It will be curious to see how the White Sox handle this as this year I am sure the brokers on Addison will have a ton of Cell tixs.

soxfanreggie
12-10-2005, 02:47 PM
Good to combat scalpers, but I think that corporate season ticket holders will have enough clout to be able to do what they want with their tickets because so many people use them.

As for the Flubs...anyway they can take more money from their fans, they will...and their fans just sit there with open wallets.

dickallen15
12-10-2005, 03:16 PM
If it works well, and I agree with the above post, the corporate accounts could be trouble, you will see this everywhere in a couple of years.

Fenway
12-10-2005, 03:35 PM
Just did a quick google and found that Manchester City football club has been using such a smartcard system.

It appears that for a non season ticket holder all you have to do is give your smartcard number to the team and tickets for the game you want are put on the card.

So in theory the CTA could work with the White Sox and let you use Chicago Card as a way to buy tickets and then enter the park....( or some other major user of smartcards )

The days of the printed ticket maybe at an end

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purchasing information


buying seats for home games

All supporters coming to the City of Manchester Stadium require a smart card.

All Seasoncard holders, Citycard (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={CF6F2136-FB17-4EA6-A253-A57869C8EC94}&pcpageid=14611) and Citycard International (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={DEDE5487-309E-45C3-94DC-05CD784A3A58}&pcpageid=14610)members are automatically issued with a smart card.

Any non-members should register with the Ticket Store to obtain an Accesscard, which you will be able to use for the rest of the season. Non-members can obtain an Accesscard by calling 0870 062 1894 (option 1, lines open Mon-Fri 9am-5pm).

Each time you purchase a seat for a home league game or a home cup game you will simply need to quote your customer number. Occasionally a minimum number of loyalty points (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={EBCA9385-7166-4233-ABE7-982B7D181F39}&pcpageid=14706)may be required for your card to be validated for the specified game.

Seats can be purchased by calling 0870 062 1894 (option 1), lines open seven days a week, or you can buy on-line (http://www.mcfc.talentarena.co.uk/). (http://www.mcfc.talentarena.co.uk/)

You will then be issued with a receipt which will confirm your seat details. You should bring this with you together with your smart card to the game.

Tickets for home games will go on sale to Citycard Members first. Selected home games may require Citycard Members to have a certain number of loyalty points.

Should any ticket remain these will then go on open sale to Accesscard holders.

buying tickets for away games

Tickets for away games go on sale to Seasoncard holders first. If any tickets remain they then go on sale to Citycard Members with the required number of loyalty points. Should any tickets remain they will then go on open sale to Accesscard holders.

contacts

For further information or to purchase tickets by phone call 0870 062 1894 (lines open seven days a week).

Latest Ticket News > (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={58AE9207-A9E4-4940-86CF-AA61D3482D89}&pcpageid=14668)

Buy online > (http://www.mcfc.talentarena.co.uk/)

Fenway
12-10-2005, 03:51 PM
Each time you purchase a seat for a home league game or a home cup game you will simply need to quote your customer number. Occasionally a minimum number of loyalty points (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?syndicatorguid={7EB24EFC-E397-48B3-977A-BC40E4795300}&rmasiteinstanceguid={5B147D34-2BCF-448D-976C-AE1944ED09F5}&pagegid={EBCA9385-7166-4233-ABE7-982B7D181F39}&pcpageid=14706)may be required for your card to be validated for the specified game.


Hmmm so if you want to buy tickets to see Boston, New York or the Cubs you would have to buy Kansas City and Tampa Bay tickets......oh ya I can see teams doing this in a heartbeat