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Fenway
12-10-2005, 09:44 AM
The Saturday Boston Globe indicates that Theo Epstein may indeed be coming back and soon. From these 2 stories it appears Larry Lucchino is now on very thin ice with Boston ownership
Return of Epstein? (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/12/10/sox_work_on_return_of_epstein)

Red Sox ownership is working to bring back former GM Theo Epstein in a consulting/advisory position, according to team sources. (By Gordon Edes and Chris Snow, Today's Globe)


DAN SHAUGHNESSY (http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/shaughnessy/)
Team never out of season (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/12/10/this_team_never_out_of_season)

Theo again? A rift between John W. Henry and Larry Lucchino? Miguel Tejada straight up for Manny Ramírez? (Today's Globe)



Thursday afternoon Peter Gammons dropped a bomb during an interview on WEEI's "Big Show" about the current status of ex Boston GM Theo Epstein hinting that Theo may not be an ex after all. Keep in mind Gammons and Epstein are very close as they work together in music charities in the Boston area.

The interview Peter Gammons - December 8th (http://eod.liquidviewer.com/weei-od/gammons_bs_1208.wma)

Larry Johnson: If Theo were still running the show, do you think he would have operated the same way in terms of endorsing...

Peter Gammons: You don't think he is?

LJ: I'm sorry...

Gammons: You don't think he is?

LJ: I don't know, is he?

Gammons: (four seconds of silence) Umm, yeah, he definitely would have operated the same way.

LJ: Do you think he still has some contact with them with input?

Gammons: Yes. I don't think there's any question... of course he talks to them, he's very good friends with them all.

Glenn Ordway: You're not giving the impression, because it's been thrown out there, Buster Olney's thrown it out there, that he still believes there's a chance that Theo's gonna come back in that position. You don't believe that's gonna happen do you?

Gammons: (three seconds of silence) Yeah. I think there's a chance. I mean, there's certain things you couldn't script and they're all laughing about this today. There are things that are very funny and I'm not being cruel about it but one of the funniest things, and the thing we in Boston have been laughed at most, is people actually saying and writing that Jerry Kapstein is gonna be the general manager. That is the single funniest thing... it's become the laughing stock of the United States... He's a wonderful guy. He's a terrific guy but he hasn't been in baseball a long time... he's a very well meaning, terrific person... I don't know where it's all going. There's always contact because he's friends with those guys. This thing has gone on a long time. There is nobody on the general manager horizon. I could see maybe they would do it, although (Bill) Lajoie reiterated today that he doesn't want to be the general manager, I could if there were no way Theo came back, I could see them continuing this group. But there's no one there right now that they've interviewed who's a candidate.

Ordway: But with everything that's happened, how would Theo come back and take that role?

Gammons: John Henry never wanted him to leave in the first place and Larry never wanted him to leave. I think that. There are things that I always believed could be cleared up. Larry Lucchino wants the team to be really good. And by the way, he did a phenominal job down here with the whole Scott Boras negotiations with Damon... Right now, I'm not sure it could happen, but I don't really see what else they will do... they've made no move to go in another direction... they're all adults (and can clear up past problems). I'm not saying it's happening. I just think it can happen... it seems strange to me that 37 days (after Theo left) there would be nobody on the horizon to replace him... If you knew Theo Epstein, one of the things you would understand that one of the things he's best at is saying 'you know what, I'm wrong' and moving on (as he would have done on Renteria)."

soltrain21
12-10-2005, 10:07 AM
The Boston Red Sox are the sports equivalent to a group of teenage girls. Make up your mind already.

Fenway
12-10-2005, 10:21 AM
The Boston Red Sox are the sports equivalent to a group of teenage girls. Make up your mind already.

:gulp: HEY WE HAVE MINDS


http://www.jerrytrey.com/gosox.jpg

soltrain21
12-10-2005, 10:30 AM
You have redeemed yourself with that picture. Sometimes I think they are the ones running that club, though. :smile:

RKMeibalane
12-10-2005, 10:35 AM
Look at that guy who has his hand on the girl's hip. LOL!

Fenway
12-10-2005, 11:13 AM
One thing the Red Sox do well is sell tickets.....3 hours I have been trying this morning and I am still in the Virtual Waiting Room :whiner:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/bos/ticketing/soxpax.jsp

Welcome to the Boston Red Sox Pax Virtual Waiting Room!

Sox Pax are now on sale. Each pack includes one ticket for each game in pack. Same seat location will be provided for each game in pack if available.

We are experiencing very high demand. As a result, all requests for seats cannot be served simultaneously. Please be patient, and your browser will be refreshed in:

When we refresh your browser, we will determine your status in the waiting room and if appropriate give you an opportunity to request seats. DO NOT REFRESH THIS WINDOW. We appreciate your patience.

soxfanreggie
12-10-2005, 02:51 PM
Good luck Fenway trying to get tickets. I'll take that Red Sox fan that looks very happy to be there...would be great to convert her to cheer for the better Sox :D:

As for this thing with Epstein...this is worse than when Oakland and Macha went round and round...oh Red Sox...:rolleyes:

Fenway
12-10-2005, 02:57 PM
Good luck Fenway trying to get tickets. I'll take that Red Sox fan that looks very happy to be there...would be great to convert her to cheer for the better Sox :D:

As for this thing with Epstein...this is worse than when Oakland and Macha went round and round...oh Red Sox...:rolleyes:

What the Red Sox are doing today is pure marketing genius.

They put the 20 games in April, September and October that figure to be the hardest sell because of weather and school being in session and only put those on sale before Christmas. You have people now snapping up standing room against Tampa Bay in April :o:

Then in February they put the rest on sale, and limit Opening Day and the Yankees to email lottery. Presto park is sold out before season even starts.

People have been online for 7 hours and not gotten tickets yet....it is complete insanity.