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Chicken Dinner
12-07-2005, 02:01 PM
Looks like the Astros are not going to sign or offer arbitration to the Rocket. Then again, he was making a stack of cash. Don't see those guys being even close to the series this coming year.

It's Time
12-07-2005, 02:08 PM
The Cardinals are much weaker as well. Reggie Sanders, Larry Walker, Matt Morris, Ray King and Cal Eldred are all gone. This divison, as it stands right now, is up for grabs.

russ99
12-07-2005, 02:11 PM
Looks like the Astros are not going to sign or offer arbitration to the Rocket. Then again, he was making a stack of cash. Don't see those guys being even close to the series this coming year.

I think this a good move by the Astros.

He wants close to 20 million to come back. I say he shoud retire and not hold the Astros hostage with that massive dollar amount hanging over their heads.

Now the Astros can make some of the moves they held off on last year due to Clemens and Beltran negotiating until the last minute, which had a lot to do with their bad start to the season and their lack of offense all season and postseason.

He can still come back to Houston after May 1st if he wants to pitch again. I seriously doubt he'd play for another team, since his son is in the Houston organization and he has a 10 year personal services contract with the Astros owner.

Fenway
12-08-2005, 10:12 AM
The Clemens back to the Yankees hysteria begins ( and don't count Boston out either )

http://www.nypost.com/img/back120805.gif (http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.shtml)

Hey Boss! Rocket is up in air
Roger Clemens won't be re-signing with the Astros this winter after Houston declined to offer the Rocket arbitration yesterday. Does that mean Clemens might return to the Bronx?
FULL STORY (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/372770p-317037c.html)

Fenway
12-11-2005, 07:58 AM
The Clemens back to the Yankees hysteria begins ( and don't count Boston out either )


Boston now in the hunt as well

The Red Sox have communicated with Roger Clemens's agents, the Hendricks brothers, over the past few days to express their interest in the future Hall of Famer if he elects to play in 2006.
Clemens, who was not offered salary arbitration by the Houston Astros, was informed of the contact, and sources close to Clemens said the pitcher reacted positively to the scenario of a return to Boston.



http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/12/11/red_sox_discussing_clemens/ (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2005/12/11/red_sox_discussing_clemens/)

lumpyspun
12-11-2005, 12:58 PM
Good I hope he goes back to Boston, then we can slap him around the ballpark a few times a year like we did in the WS...2 IP, 3 ER.

Don't the Red Sox have some policy where they won't retire a number unless the person finishes their career with them? The only way they got Fisk around it is by hiring him in the front office?

Fenway
12-11-2005, 01:18 PM
Good I hope he goes back to Boston, then we can slap him around the ballpark a few times a year like we did in the WS...2 IP, 3 ER.

Don't the Red Sox have some policy where they won't retire a number unless the person finishes their career with them? The only way they got Fisk around it is by hiring him in the front office?

That was under Harrington/Yawkey. Current ownership can make their own rules. There is a huge amount of public pressure to retire the numbers of Tony Conigliaro and Johnny Pesky.

lumpyspun
12-11-2005, 03:13 PM
That was under Harrington/Yawkey. Current ownership can make their own rules. There is a huge amount of public pressure to retire the numbers of Tony Conigliaro and Johnny Pesky.

Ahh, thanks for the clarification...I always wondered about the validity of that story. In these days of free agency and what not, it's kind of impossible to expect players to end careers with a certain team.

MHOUSE
12-11-2005, 03:42 PM
The Astros had to decline arbitration to Clemens. Having $20 million up in the air based on whether one guy will resign 1-2 months from now is a big hinderance to your flexibility to make other moves. Plus it seems like he finally started to break down in September and October. When Clemens can't gut out a World Series game, you know it's serious.