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mjmcend
12-05-2005, 12:24 PM
Per Rotoworld:

Late indications on Sunday night suggest that A.J. Burnett is on the verge of joining the Cardinals, according to the Toronto Star.
Scout.com's Brian Walton is reporting that the Cardinals and Burnett have agreed to a five-year deal. If so, it'd probably be in the $50 million range, or less than he could have gotten from another team. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch is still reporting that the Cardinals won't guarantee a fifth year, which might mean there's a vesting option involved. Dec. 5 - 4:41 am et
Source: Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/)

pythons007
12-05-2005, 12:26 PM
too much money for an injury risk.

MUsoxfan
12-05-2005, 12:30 PM
too much money for an injury risk.

Too much money for an average pitcher

palehozenychicty
12-05-2005, 12:34 PM
Too much money for all of the above. He could do well with the Cards, but I doubt it. In fact, they need a right fielder and second baseman. Pujols has no reliable lineup support anymore, with Rolen's shoulder and Edmonds aging.

RallyBowl
12-05-2005, 12:56 PM
Too much money for an average pitcher

Too much money for an *******. Surely LaRussa will keep him in check, though.

Flight #24
12-05-2005, 01:14 PM
Too much money for an average pitcher

Not when the market's been set at $7m for Paul Byrd.

MUsoxfan
12-05-2005, 01:15 PM
Not when the market's been set at $7m for Paul Byrd.

True, but I believe Byrd is a better pitcher.

Lip Man 1
12-05-2005, 01:52 PM
I recently saw Ken Rosenthal write something that gave me pause for thought.. as this time in his career Burnett has comparable and in some cases better numbers then Randy Johnson did at the sames point in his career.

Anyway if this works out and drives another nail into the Cubs chances I certainly won't complain about it!

Lip

Baby Fisk
12-05-2005, 02:00 PM
This comparison was posted at a Black Jays message board:


Through the age of 28:

Won-Loss records:

Burnett: 49-50
Johnson: 49-48
Schilling: 43-42

200+ Inning seasons:

Burnett: 2
Johnson: 3
Schilling: 2

Best Full Season:

Burnett: 12-9, 204 IP, 203 K, 90BB, 3.30 ERA
Johnson: 14-11, 219 IP, 194 K, 120 BB, 3.65 ERA
Schilling : 16-7, 235 IP, 186 K, 57 BB, 4.02 ERA

Seasons with a better than league average ERA

Burnett: 5
Johnson: 4
Schilling: 3

JorgeFabregas
12-05-2005, 02:31 PM
I did the same comparison with Oil Can Boyd through the age of 28 and they're pretty similar as well, with Oil Can having fewer BBs and Ks, but a similar ratio. I layed it out and posted, but apparently wasn't logged in so I lost it. I don't really think that a young pitcher posting average numbers and lot of Ks suggests that he's going to be oustanding later, but the Johnson numbers prove that it's possible.

Lip Man 1
12-05-2005, 02:43 PM
Fisk:

Maybe so but I read about it in Rosenthal's column in TSN.

Lip

Baby Fisk
12-05-2005, 03:27 PM
Fisk:

Maybe so but I read about it in Rosenthal's column in TSN.

Lip
The message board poster didn't attribute a source. I believe you.