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Tekijawa
12-01-2005, 11:29 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-redsox-worldseriesball&prov=ap&type=lgns

Any comments Fenway? They should probably be focusing on a GM, but well...

NonetheLoaiza
12-01-2005, 11:32 AM
Too bad they don't have a standup guy like Konerko to give the ball to the owner...:D:

mjharrison72
12-01-2005, 11:39 AM
Classy.

Baby Fisk
12-01-2005, 11:44 AM
By all measurements so far (eg. Konerko vs. Mientkiewicz), the White Sox are proving to be better at "being" World Champions than Boston.

Fenway
12-01-2005, 11:50 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-redsox-worldseriesball&prov=ap&type=lgns

Any comments Fenway? They should probably be focusing on a GM, but well...

my comment is here
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=953833&postcount=5

DenverSock
12-01-2005, 11:52 AM
Why do you think I call them the Commie Sox!

:roflmao::roflmao::rolling::rolling:

IlliniSox4Life
12-01-2005, 04:23 PM
I can understand why they want it, and it's sad for their fan base they don't have a standup guy like Konerko to give it back, but this is just a complete classless act by the Red Sox.

Telling Doug that they'd give it back to him after a year, and then filing suit with it in their posession and not giving it back is just a bad way to do business. I hope they never get the ball and Doug decides to blow it up like the Bartman ball.

zach074
12-01-2005, 04:34 PM
This entire fight for the ball shows what a class act PK is.

Fenway
12-01-2005, 04:57 PM
There are time I really hate the Red Sox ownership.This is one of them

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2005/12/01/1133470592_3376.jpg (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/polls/12_01_05_series_ball)
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/File-Based_Image_Resource/dingbat_checkbox_icon2.gif Whose ball is it anyway? (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/polls/12_01_05_series_ball)
Who should ultimately end up owning the final out ball of the 2004 World Series? (Boston.com)



I can understand why they want it, and it's sad for their fan base they don't have a standup guy like Konerko to give it back, but this is just a complete classless act by the Red Sox.

Telling Doug that they'd give it back to him after a year, and then filing suit with it in their posession and not giving it back is just a bad way to do business. I hope they never get the ball and Doug decides to blow it up like the Bartman ball.

hose
12-01-2005, 05:33 PM
This article is about Paulie but Ladewski references to Doug Mancaveitch:roflmao:


http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/columns/ladewski/x01-lad1.htm

"Then again, after Konerko tipped his hand at the World Series victory parade here in October, maybe we should have known how this would play out. One year after Boston Red Sox hack Doug Mientkiewicz claimed the final World Series ball for his own, Konerko gave his to Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf on the comp"

Fenway
12-02-2005, 02:23 PM
I can not believe Dr. Steinberg issued a press release over this
( my gawd they beginning to act like the Yankees ):angry:

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/logo_bos_79x76.jpghttp://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/news/pr_header.gif

The Boston Red Sox yesterday filed a request for a judgment to determine who is the rightful owner of the ball that was used in the final out of their 2004 World Series victory.


If the judgment results in a determination that the ball belongs to the Red Sox, the club intends to display and preserve the historic artifact for all of Red Sox Nation to enjoy. The Red Sox have no intent or desire to derive any commercial benefit from the ball.

"Despite the legal language that can suggest otherwise, the action seeking a declaratory judgment in no way reflects on our feelings or respect for our alumnus, Doug Mientkiewicz, who caught the throw that gave us our first World Championship in 86 years," said Lucinda Treat, the Red Sox' chief legal officer. "We have made numerous approaches to the Mientkiewiczes, and to their representatives, to seek an amicable private settlement, and to ensure that this piece of club history remains accessible to all of our fans," Treat said. "All were rebuffed. That is why we now seek a judgment."

slavko
12-02-2005, 06:22 PM
Paulie has been here for almost his entire career. Mientkiewicz was a rent-a-player. That may account for the difference.

Paulwny
12-02-2005, 07:29 PM
Since it appears that Mientkiewicz had thought about the final out and the possibility he may have possession of it at the end of the game, I think he still has the actual ball. How do the red Sox know the ball they were given is the actual ball? I'm sure there were plenty of WS balls available so he could pull a switch.

RallyBowl
12-02-2005, 07:49 PM
Menkewitz or however you spell his name is a bastard. I can't believe AJ associates with such a piece of trash.

Wsoxmike59
12-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Mantkiewicz has about as much right to ownership of that ball as Dennis Oil Can Boyd or Bill Buckner does! What a jerk! :angry:

I guarantee Keith Foulke or Jason Varitek give that ball up to the Red Sox ownership if they had gotten it for the last out.

LuvSox
12-03-2005, 01:25 AM
If Manishevitz loses the ball, his kids can't go to Florida State!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!



Man he's an idiot.

TDog
12-03-2005, 02:37 AM
You make the call.

Which Sox are more loveable?

The Sox with the first baseman who caught the ball for the final out before signing with a different team and claiming ownership of the ball or the Sox with the first baseman who presented the ball to the chairman of the team's board of directors before signing to remain on these Sox despite being offered more money to play in Baltimore?

Most people around the country will tell you the loveable Sox were the Sox who filed the lawsuit.

I wouldn't, but I'm no celebrity.

gowhitesox
12-03-2005, 03:44 AM
The White Sox don't have that problem over ownership of a baseball as Paul Konerko is class guy and gave it to Mr. Reinsdorf. A very kind gesture.

bigfoot
12-03-2005, 09:18 AM
The Carmines have a lot more problems than a dirty old baseball. But, then again, it seems that they could use all the balls that they can get their hands on!!? After that ALDC series sweep!!!

TommyJohn
12-03-2005, 11:02 AM
You make the call.

Which Sox are more loveable?

The Sox with the first baseman who caught the ball for the final out before signing with a different team and claiming ownership of the ball or the Sox with the first baseman who presented the ball to the chairman of the team's board of directors before signing to remain on these Sox despite being offered more money to play in Baltimore?

Most people around the country will tell you the loveable Sox were the Sox who filed the lawsuit.

I wouldn't, but I'm no celebrity.

What's wrong with you? How can you even think of judging an entire team
and fanbase by the actions of a few? You narrow-minded bigot, you!

Me, I vote for the Red Sox. They're all honest, and they and their fans don't
beat up coaches and player's wives. Father Jerk agrees with me, I'm sure.

SoxEd
12-05-2005, 04:28 PM
Apologies if anyone has already posted this (I'll be surprised if I've got this in before Fenway):

Now, I'm not saying that your country is too litigious, but... linky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/baseball/default.stm)

The Carmines suing Mentkiewicz, now?
Over a year after the fact?
All the Lawyers gonna get well off this one...

It's not like he sold the goshdarned thing, is it?
Whilst I'm sure the legal opinion offered in the article is correct, come on, it's a freakin' baseball - they should enter in to a contract with Mentkiewicz that says he can keep it, but if he sells it he has to give all proceeds to Red Sox Charities.

But to drag the issue through the Courts... sheesh!

fquaye149
12-05-2005, 04:32 PM
Apologies if anyone has already posted this (I'll be surprised if I've got this in before Fenway):

Now, I'm not saying that your country is too litigious, but... linky (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/baseball/default.stm)

The Carmines suing Mentkiewicz, now?
Over a year after the fact?
All the Lawyers gonna get well off this one...

It's not like he sold the goshdarned thing, is it?
Whilst I'm sure the legal opinion offered in the article is correct, come on, it's a freakin' baseball - they should enter in to a contract with Mentkiewicz that says he can keep it, but if he sells it he has to give all proceeds to Red Sox Charities.

But to drag the issue through the Courts... sheesh!

bloody 'ell...the solictours wish they could do the same dang thing

Baby Fisk
12-05-2005, 04:33 PM
bloody 'ell...the solictours wish they could do the same dang thingNaught to mention the barristers!

ElevenUp
12-07-2005, 07:34 PM
If the World Series had been won on a walk-off homer, do you think the Red Sox would be suing the fan who caught it? I agree that the classy thing for Mentkiewicz to do is give the ball back to the team, but this lawsuit is ridiculous. :angry:

DenverSock
12-07-2005, 11:19 PM
If the World Series had been won on a walk-off homer, do you think the Red Sox would be suing the fan who caught it? I agree that the classy thing for Mentkiewicz to do is give the ball back to the team, but this lawsuit is ridiculous. :angry:

Once again the Commie sox show themselves as the class of the league!
:roflmao::rolling::roflmao::rolling:

DenverSock
12-07-2005, 11:22 PM
If Manishevitz loses the ball, his kids can't go to Florida State!

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!



Man he's an idiot.

His name isn't Manishevitz. Manishevitz is a brand of Kosher grape juice sometimes masquerading as wine. His name is Mentkiewicz, which by the way is Polish.:angry::angry:

soxfanreggie
12-08-2005, 04:36 AM
Actually, let the Red Cubs spend money to try and get this ball...heck spend millions...less they can overpay someone to play for them. Also, I want to make sure Mentkiewicz pays taxes on selling that ball. I think someone said the gift tax on a McGwire home-run ball, should he have gotten it back would have been $600,000+. I think with all of its "value" that the gift tax should be $2-3 million...maybe even more. That would be great for funding some schools :D: