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Milw
11-30-2005, 10:42 AM
Just poking around baseballreference.com a bit, and came across Kid Gleason's career stats. http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gleaski01.shtml

Gleason, as you know, was the manager of the Black Sox team. Notice in his stats section, though, that he played in every season from 1888 to 1908, but then came back for one single game in August of 1912 with the Sox. In his Sox playing career, he was 1 for 2. He never played another game.

My curiousity is piqued -- does anybody know the story behind this? Was he serving as a base coach for the Sox at the time and got pressed into duty due to injury, like what almost happened to Ozzie this season?

On a side note, Gleason had one hell of an underrated playing career ...

chaerulez
11-30-2005, 11:09 AM
Anyone notice the 106 RBIs on ONE home run and 21 extra base hits total?

Paulwny
11-30-2005, 11:19 AM
From Baseball Biography Project:

Gleason returned to the major leagues in 1912 as a coach, when former teammate Nixey Callahan became manager of the Chicago White Sox. He also played a game at second base, obtaining his final major league hit despite the advanced age of 45. But his prime contribution was as team sparkplug. Prior research by the author (in Baseball's First Stars) reveals that the Kid's favorite trick was to sneak into Eddie Collins' room during road trips and tie him to the bed with a razor strap!

TDog
11-30-2005, 11:52 AM
... Prior research by the author (in Baseball's First Stars) reveals that the Kid's favorite trick was to sneak into Eddie Collins' room during road trips and tie him to the bed with a razor strap!

From what I've read about "Cocky" Collins' personality, this must have made Kid Gleason a popular guy on the team, although certainly not with Mr. Collins.

TheVulture
12-02-2005, 12:23 AM
Anyone notice the 106 RBIs on ONE home run and 21 extra base hits total?

Anybody scroll down and check out his pitching record? 506 IP and 38 wins in 1890! No wonder he was done pitching by 28.

TornLabrum
12-02-2005, 06:42 PM
Anybody scroll down and check out his pitching record? 506 IP and 38 wins in 1890! No wonder he was done pitching by 28.

The pitchers box wasn't replaced by the pitchers mound until a couple of years after that. It was something like 45-50 feet away from the plate. I also believe overhand deliveries might have still been restricted at that time.

JohnBasedowYoda
12-02-2005, 06:44 PM
nice find milw

Hitmen77
12-02-2005, 09:24 PM
My curiousity is piqued -- does anybody know the story behind this? Was he serving as a base coach for the Sox at the time and got pressed into duty due to injury, like what almost happened to Ozzie this season?..

Now my curiousity is piqued. Did this really almost happen? When?

Johnny Mostil
12-02-2005, 11:07 PM
Paulwny--is there anything in that project about why Babe Ruth started and pitched a 9-inning game in 1933? (Or, for that matter, why he did the same in 1930 after not having pitched since 1921?)

Torn--fair point about the pitching box change, though I'll always be in awe of this man's record (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/radboch01.shtml) (if always mystified how somebody who could start 72 games in a season also be asked to relieve in 3 of them).

Hitmen--there was some chatter about Ozzie being activated around the time the Sox were so desperate that they played Dye at short.

Paulwny
12-05-2005, 06:07 PM
Paulwny--is there anything in that project about why Babe Ruth started and pitched a 9-inning game in 1933? (Or, for that matter, why he did the same in 1930 after not having pitched since 1921?)
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From the Baseball Library:
October 1, 1933 (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/chronology/1933OCTOBER.stm#day1): Babe Ruth, in a season-ending stunt, pitches the final game of his career, defeating the Red Sox 6-5 with a complete game. Ruth hits a HR to help his effort.

As for 1930, pure speculation on my part, he may have been an emergency starter. The Yanks and A's played 3 double headers in 4 days.

Johnny Mostil
12-05-2005, 08:51 PM
From the Baseball Library:
October 1, 1933 (http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/chronology/1933OCTOBER.stm#day1): Babe Ruth, in a season-ending stunt, pitches the final game of his career, defeating the Red Sox 6-5 with a complete game. Ruth hits a HR to help his effort.

As for 1930, pure speculation on my part, he may have been an emergency starter. The Yanks and A's played 3 double headers in 4 days.
Yowza. That'd do it. Thanks for the info.

Mohoney
12-07-2005, 07:06 PM
Torn--fair point about the pitching box change, though I'll always be in awe of this man's record (http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/radboch01.shtml) (if always mystified how somebody who could start 72 games in a season also be asked to relieve in 3 of them).

59-12 is some serious chuckin'!