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DickAllen72
11-19-2005, 04:50 PM
On WSCR's new White Sox show this morning, Mike North was talking to Ed Farmer and North brings up Gload as a possible first baseman for the Sox next year. Ed Farmer responded that a friend of his from San Diego said that Gload is going to sign with the Padres. North responded, "No, we're not talking about Blum, we're talking about Ross Gload." Farmer said, yes he heard Gload is about to sign with San Diego.

I didn't know Gload was a free agent. Is he? Did anyone else hear this? Does Farmer know what he's talking about?

It would be kind of ironic seeing how Blum basically took Gload's job from him with the Sox and now they'd both be going to San Diego if what Farmer said is true.

I hope Farmer's story is false. It sounds like BS to me.

Mr. White Sox
11-19-2005, 04:59 PM
From Cot's Baseball Contracts "blog":

Ross Gload 1b
1 year/$0.335M (2005)



re-signed 2/05
1 year/$0.302M (2004), re-signed
ML service: 1.079
I suppose it is plausible, and I'm sure Gload wasn't happy about this season. Consider that Nady (A platooning 1B) was traded to the Mets, this definitely could happen.

SOX ADDICT '73
11-19-2005, 05:14 PM
Ross Gload 1b
1 year/$0.335M (2005)
I've never seen a ballplayer's salary listed that way. I suppose I should start telling people I make around $0.045 million per year! :cool:

Oh, and regarding Gload, good riddance (if it's true). I still can't forgive the guy for tip-toeing around the Twins' catcher in Sept. '04, prancing away a practically-scripted chance at retribution for Hunter's cheap shot against Burke a month or so before.

Petty, year-old grudges aside, Gload really sucked last year (except for one huge hit against Cleveland). He put up monster numbers rehabbing with Charlotte, but never fulfilled the promise he'd shown at the major league level in 2004.

johnny_mostil
11-19-2005, 06:26 PM
0I didn't know Gload was a free agent. Is he? Did anyone else hear this? Does Farmer know what he's talking about?

No, he is not. He isn't close to the required six years of service. The only way he can become a free agent is if the White Sox elect to non-tender him before the deadline.

Banix12
11-19-2005, 06:44 PM
Man, if his power stroke was a bit sub-par here in Chicago it would really be bad at Petco. I thought the Padres were going to shy away from lefthanders because of that deep power alley in Right Field. I know they are going to bring in the fence a bit but not that much. though that could possibly work to his advantage if he can smack a lot of doubles there.

I think he can become an average MLB first baseman if given a regular spot, but he'll never have the power. His best hope will to be Mark Grace, but I'm not sure Gload will ever have the mastery of the strike zone that made Grace a consistant .380-.400 OBP guy throughout his career. Gload seems like a nice guy but I gotta think he is never going to be much more than a backup, stopgap for a team with a hot 1b prospect coming up through the farm system, or pinch hitting specialist in the Lenny Harris mold.

Soxfanspcu11
11-19-2005, 06:45 PM
I honestly would not mind if Gload signed with San Diego or elsewhere. I actually really used to like the guy and I saw a lot of potential in him. However, after this season I'm not really in his corner anymore.


He had a couple of good AB's this year for the Sox but I really can only recall 2 hits from him this year that actually were "productive". The double he hit against Boston, and the double against Cleveland (But lets also remember that in that Cleveland game, he was something like 0-5 before that double, so that's not really that impressive).


Personally, I just believe this guy is over-rated. Sure he put up good numbers in Charlotte but he has never done anything on the major league level that has impressed me. I realize that he really hasn't had a chance to showcase himself over a full season but in the time he has had, he hasn't done much to show me he can/will live up to his hype.

Also, I'm not much of a fan of his attitude. Whenever he has played for the Sox he seems like he just doesn't care about the team and the outcome of the game, he really seems like he is in it solely for himself and his numbers.

It is very reminiscent of Colon when he pitched for the Sox for a season. By which I mean, not caring about the team. I remember in '03 when the Sox were battling with Minnesota down the stretch and the Sox had just split a 4 game series with the Twins at Comiskey and then went up to Minnesota and were about to get swept. At that point, it was pretty clear that the Twins were going to take the Central and Colon pitched the last game. On the mound he just seemed like he could care less whether the Sox won that game and was only out there to pad his stats.

It's hard to really rally around a guy that comes off as if he is only out to improve his stats and could care less what his team does.

KRS1
11-19-2005, 08:21 PM
Farmer is full of crap on this one, and obviously meant Blum. He was trying to hide his ignorance to the Blum signing last week behind Gloads name once he sadi it. I have looked at almost every list of FA's and Gload is on NONE. Here is a complete list of our org. players who r FA's.Chicago White Sox: Raul Casanova, Frank Thomas, Paul Konerko, Ricky Guiterrez, Carl Everett, Jim Bullinger, Bobby Jones, Leonardo Mayi, Juan Ovalles, Luis Pena, Matthew Smith, Jason Stumm, Dennis Ulacia. Jonathan Aceves, Cipriano Garcia, Trace Coquillette, Felix Martinez, Greg Norton, Guillermo Reyes, Jorge Toca, Tony Alvarez, Scott Bikowski, Bernard Gonzalez, Luis Zaranise

RadioheadRocks
11-19-2005, 08:25 PM
Also, I'm not much of a fan of his attitude. Whenever he has played for the Sox he seems like he just doesn't care about the team and the outcome of the game, he really seems like he is in it solely for himself and his numbers.

It is very reminiscent of Colon when he pitched for the Sox for a season. By which I mean, not caring about the team. I remember in '03 when the Sox were battling with Minnesota down the stretch and the Sox had just split a 4 game series with the Twins at Comiskey and then went up to Minnesota and were about to get swept. At that point, it was pretty clear that the Twins were going to take the Central and Colon pitched the last game. On the mound he just seemed like he could care less whether the Sox won that game and was only out there to pad his stats.

It's hard to really rally around a guy that comes off as if he is only out to improve his stats and could care less what his team does.

Considering our World Championship was a total team effort, all I can say is AMEN!!!!!!!

Brian26
11-19-2005, 08:32 PM
I honestly would not mind if Gload signed with San Diego or elsewhere. I actually really used to like the guy and I saw a lot of potential in him. However, after this season I'm not really in his corner anymore.

He had a couple of good AB's this year for the Sox but I really can only recall 2 hits from him this year that actually were "productive". The double he hit against Boston, and the double against Cleveland (But lets also remember that in that Cleveland game, he was something like 0-5 before that double, so that's not really that impressive).

It's hard to really rally around a guy that comes off as if he is only out to improve his stats and could care less what his team does.

A lot of hate there towards Gload. Anyone remember the diving stab he made on Opening Day and the flip to Shingo for the winner against the Tribe? Give the guy a break...he got hurt and then was kept in Triple A inexplicably for most of the season.

KRS1
11-19-2005, 08:34 PM
A lot of hate there towards Gload. Anyone remember the diving stab he made on Opening Day and the flip to Shingo for the winner against the Tribe? Give the guy a break...he got hurt and then was kept in Triple A inexplicably for most of the season.

He was there for rehab if u need a good reason, also he was strictly a 1b/DH as he can't play the outfield, making him pretty much redundant.

Brian26
11-19-2005, 08:42 PM
He was there for rehab if u need a good reason, also he was strictly a 1b/DH as he can't play the outfield, making him pretty much redundant.

After the injury was healed and he started playing in Charlotte, he was tearing the cover off the ball. I'm not Gload's #1 fan by any means, but one could argue that his lefthanded bat off the bench would have been helpful in certain situations moreso than Timo or Willie's, and he could have spelled PK at first. All water under the bridge at this point though.

Soxfanspcu11
11-19-2005, 08:48 PM
A lot of hate there towards Gload. Anyone remember the diving stab he made on Opening Day and the flip to Shingo for the winner against the Tribe? Give the guy a break...he got hurt and then was kept in Triple A inexplicably for most of the season.


I never said I hated him, infact I said I USED to like him. And I do appreciate the few positives he has done for the team while in a Sox uniform. I also understand his health issues and the negative impact that had on him.

All I am saying is that he has a "swagger" or "attitude" about him in which he comes off that he is very self-centered. I don't remember the specifics but I remember him being upset a few months ago about "losing" his starting job. I can empathize with him being upset that he is missing out on playing, but he also seemed to harbor some sort of animosity that he wasn't out there. Almost as if he was "above" and "more deserving" of the players who had roster spots when he didn't.

I don't know for sure, because I don't know the guy, but sometimes people just give off vibes that you can pick up on. From what I have seen from him as far as physical reactions on the field and to what he has said in the press, he just strikes me as the type to be out only for his benefit.

Him and Borch seem to have the same personality about them. Again, I could be wrong, both of those guys could be all about the Sox, but my opinion is just based on what I have seen from them over the season.

On the flip side of that are role/utility/bench players like Harris, Blum, Ozuna, Widger and Anderson who show INCREDIBLE passion as members of the Sox.

I will never forget Rowand and Anderson going nuts when Scotty hit his walk-off in game 2 of the World Series. Anderson didn't play and he knew he didn't even have a chance to play and he still wore his emotions on his sleeve and went crazy when the Sox won. I would much rather see that in a player then indifference. I don't recall seeing Gload in ANY of the post-season celebrations, and if he was there, he certainly was not one of the first out of the dugout.

JB98
11-19-2005, 08:56 PM
I wouldn't mind having Gload around as a left-handed stick off the bench.

I also wouldn't mind if he left. That way, I wouldn't have to listen to his legion of defenders insist that he would go .300/30/100 if the Sox would just "give him a chance."

Banix12
11-19-2005, 09:29 PM
I think Gload really should go to the National League if he gets the opprotunity. Mostly because he has at least shown himself to be adept at being a pinch hitter and on an american league roster a pinch hitter only type isn't all that useful because with the DH a team already theoretically has it's best team out there.

Yes his bat is more useful on the bench than a Willie or Timo but that lack of defensive versatility prevents him from getting even weekly starts. And as he will tell you probably, a bat tends to lose its effectiveness without a little bit of semi-regular playing time.

Gload's problem this past year was that he wasn't healthy and the rest of the team was. If not for Magglio's and Frank's injuries in 2004 he would have never gotten the amount of opprotunities he was given. He made the most of them though and should be a major league bench player.

DickAllen72
11-19-2005, 09:57 PM
Farmer is full of crap on this one, and obviously meant Blum. He was trying to hide his ignorance to the Blum signing last week behind Gloads name once he said it.

I was thinking it was something like that.

KRS1
11-19-2005, 10:13 PM
I never said I hated him, infact I said I USED to like him. And I do appreciate the few positives he has done for the team while in a Sox uniform. I also understand his health issues and the negative impact that had on him.

All I am saying is that he has a "swagger" or "attitude" about him in which he comes off that he is very self-centered. I don't remember the specifics but I remember him being upset a few months ago about "losing" his starting job. I can empathize with him being upset that he is missing out on playing, but he also seemed to harbor some sort of animosity that he wasn't out there. Almost as if he was "above" and "more deserving" of the players who had roster spots when he didn't.

I don't know for sure, because I don't know the guy, but sometimes people just give off vibes that you can pick up on. From what I have seen from him as far as physical reactions on the field and to what he has said in the press, he just strikes me as the type to be out only for his benefit.

Him and Borch seem to have the same personality about them. Again, I could be wrong, both of those guys could be all about the Sox, but my opinion is just based on what I have seen from them over the season.

On the flip side of that are role/utility/bench players like Harris, Blum, Ozuna, Widger and Anderson who show INCREDIBLE passion as members of the Sox.

I will never forget Rowand and Anderson going nuts when Scotty hit his walk-off in game 2 of the World Series. Anderson didn't play and he knew he didn't even have a chance to play and he still wore his emotions on his sleeve and went crazy when the Sox won. I would much rather see that in a player then indifference. I don't recall seeing Gload in ANY of the post-season celebrations, and if he was there, he certainly was not one of the first out of the dugout.

Woah guy, Borch may not have been happy about his situation in AAA, but has a TON of class and always understood why he was down there. Borch might just be the most down to earth, and respectful people we have in this org. I don't see where u can even mention him and Gload in the same breath, b/c where Gload was semi-verbal wiht his animosity towards the club, Joe always said there was a reason why he wasn't on the big league roster.

DaleJRFan
11-19-2005, 10:55 PM
First off, the Sox have to non-tender Gload for him to sign somewhere else. The concept of that is asinine considering that, currently, they have NO first baseman on the depth chart. If Gload is going anywhere, its with a trade.

SoxSpeed22
11-19-2005, 11:24 PM
He didn't stand a chance here. If he wasn't hurt, he wasn't producing. Good luck in San Diego, Ross. Unfortunately, there was no justice for Jamie Burke, but that's done with.

KRS1
11-19-2005, 11:32 PM
He didn't stand a chance here. If he wasn't hurt, he wasn't producing. Good luck in San Diego, Ross. Unfortunately, there was no justice for Jamie Burke, but that's done with.

Read the responses in the thread not just the title, it helps.

DaleJRFan
11-19-2005, 11:39 PM
He didn't stand a chance here. If he wasn't hurt, he wasn't producing. Good luck in San Diego, Ross. Unfortunately, there was no justice for Jamie Burke, but that's done with.

Really?

Gload 2004 stats:
234 AB 75 H 7 HR 44 RBI 375 OBP 479 SLG 321 AVG

Is that NOT producing??

SoxSpeed22
11-20-2005, 12:04 AM
Really?

Gload 2004 stats:
234 AB 75 H 7 HR 44 RBI 375 OBP 479 SLG 321 AVG

Is that NOT producing??Gload 2005 stats:
42 AB 7 H 0 HR 5 RBI 205 OBP 214 SLG 167 AVG

In Charlotte he did much better with 15 HR 45 RBI 364 AVG 416 OBP 657 SLG, I'll give him that.
But he only played in 60 games. Also, I don't trust his history with injuries to give him a full time job. I don't hate the guy, but winning Rookie of the Month against call-ups in September doesn't mean a lot.
Besides, if there's anything that we learned this year from awards, is that there's only one that matters. The one we got now.

EDIT: If he goes, good luck. If not, good luck anyway.

KRS1
11-20-2005, 12:11 AM
Gload 2005 stats:
42 AB 7 H 0 HR 5 RBI 205 OBP 214 SLG 167 AVG

In Charlotte he did much better with 15 HR 45 RBI 364 AVG 416 OBP 657 SLG, I'll give him that.
But he only played in 60 games. Also, I don't trust his history with injuries to give him a full time job. I don't hate the guy, but winning Rookie of the Month against call-ups in September doesn't mean a lot.
Besides, if there's anything that we learned this year from awards, is that there's only one that matters. The one we got now.

EDIT: If he goes, good luck. If not, good luck anyway.

Hey if u want to include stats while playing hurt and playing twice a month more power to ya.

CLR01
11-20-2005, 12:14 AM
First off, the Sox have to non-tender Gload for him to sign somewhere else. The concept of that is asinine considering that, currently, they have NO first baseman on the depth chart. If Gload is going anywhere, its with a trade.


Hopefully Gload as a fall back for 1st base is somewhere around plan T in KW's mind.

nccwsfan
11-20-2005, 01:39 AM
Ross Gload has 2 years, 79 days of service (give or take a few days). He's not even arbitration eligible yet, so I doubt that he's going anywhere unless the CWS decide to release him.

Farmer was blowing some smoke here...

IowaSox1971
11-20-2005, 02:38 AM
We went wire-to-wire in first place and won the World Series without any major contributions from Gload, so it obviously was the right decision to not have him on the big-league roster for most of the season.


I do not like his attitude. Several times he whined to the press about not playing enough, but the circumstances just weren't right to play him a lot this season. What people forget about his 2004 stats is that he had his biggest month in September, when we were basically out of contention for a playoff spot. This season, it seemed his only big hit came in Cleveland, when we had already clinched the division title.

Soxfanspcu11
11-20-2005, 02:57 AM
Woah guy, Borch may not have been happy about his situation in AAA, but has a TON of class and always understood why he was down there. Borch might just be the most down to earth, and respectful people we have in this org. I don't see where u can even mention him and Gload in the same breath, b/c where Gload was semi-verbal wiht his animosity towards the club, Joe always said there was a reason why he wasn't on the big league roster.

If you read my entire post you will see that I do not compare Gload to Borchard in terms of how they did or did not complain about their playing time. I never heard Joe complain about his playing time. I was comparing them in reference to how both of them seemed to not really care what the team did on the field.

Someone posted in a thread a few weeks ago about how they ran into Borchard somewhere in the city and congratulated him on the Sox championship, and they said that Joe said thank you but seemed depressed because he was not really a part of it. Joe should be happy that he was at least on the roster for a World Series team. He now has a ring, that some of the greatest and most productive players may never get.

You say how Borchard is a very down to earth guy, and I don't agree or disagree with you, I don't know him. My point about Borchard and his similarities to Gload was that neither of them seemed to care one way or another if the Sox won the series. They seemed to completely lack passion, at least in the few instances I saw them in the playoffs. (Although Joe does get a slight advantage in my book because at least he seemed like he was having fun celebrating in the clubhouse afterwords). As I said in a previous post, watching Brian Anderson going nuts throughout the playoffs was a very positive sign. Even though he wasn't playing, he showed that he really did care about this team and the outcome of the games, both Gload and Borchard could learn a thing or two from him.

Also, why are you calling me "guy"??? Referring to me as "guy" is like taking a cheap shot at me. What did I do to you? Aside from having my opinion that is different from yours. If you disagree, you are more then entitled to speak up, but no need to do it in an insulting manner.

DaleJRFan
11-20-2005, 03:02 AM
Gload 2005 stats:
42 AB 7 H 0 HR 5 RBI 205 OBP 214 SLG 167 AVG

...while getting one at-bat a week with a bum shoulder. Great judgment of talent. He started 3 games after his last call-up, one against Boston and two against Cleveland. In those 3 games as a starter, he had 2 game winning RBI doubles. Yea, he sucks.

In Charlotte he did much better with 15 HR 45 RBI 364 AVG 416 OBP 657 SLG, I'll give him that. But he only played in 60 games. Also, I don't trust his history with injuries to give him a full time job. I don't hate the guy, but winning Rookie of the Month against call-ups in September doesn't mean a lot.

So then shreading AAA pitching this year at Charlotte is more meaningful than shreading teams with AAA callups in 2004?? I don't see your point. Besides, if he is as bad as you would like us to believe, why was he by far the best offensive player the last two months of 2004? Does that mean Carlos Lee, Aaron Rowand and the rest of the 2004 roster are bums too?

Besides, if there's anything that we learned this year from awards, is that there's only one that matters. The one we got now.

Which is exactly why he needs to stay. He'll cost 500k and is twice the hitter and player than the other two lefthanded pinchhitters the White Sox have as current options.

EDIT: If he goes, good luck. If not, good luck anyway.

With certain Sox fans beating the guy up, playing hurt, not getting a fair shake after kicking ass in 04... I almost hope he does get traded. Playing in another town might get him some playing time. With PK coming back and any sort of trade for a leftie slugger Thome/Delgado/Huff/Overbay, I can't see Ross making the roster for 2006. Maybe they can include him in a deal with TB for Huff where he'd surely start.

JB98
11-22-2005, 01:24 PM
If you read my entire post you will see that I do not compare Gload to Borchard in terms of how they did or did not complain about their playing time. I never heard Joe complain about his playing time. I was comparing them in reference to how both of them seemed to not really care what the team did on the field.

Someone posted in a thread a few weeks ago about how they ran into Borchard somewhere in the city and congratulated him on the Sox championship, and they said that Joe said thank you but seemed depressed because he was not really a part of it. Joe should be happy that he was at least on the roster for a World Series team. He now has a ring, that some of the greatest and most productive players may never get.

You say how Borchard is a very down to earth guy, and I don't agree or disagree with you, I don't know him. My point about Borchard and his similarities to Gload was that neither of them seemed to care one way or another if the Sox won the series. They seemed to completely lack passion, at least in the few instances I saw them in the playoffs. (Although Joe does get a slight advantage in my book because at least he seemed like he was having fun celebrating in the clubhouse afterwords). As I said in a previous post, watching Brian Anderson going nuts throughout the playoffs was a very positive sign. Even though he wasn't playing, he showed that he really did care about this team and the outcome of the games, both Gload and Borchard could learn a thing or two from him.

Also, why are you calling me "guy"??? Referring to me as "guy" is like taking a cheap shot at me. What did I do to you? Aside from having my opinion that is different from yours. If you disagree, you are more then entitled to speak up, but no need to do it in an insulting manner.

I'm the "third man in" in this argument, but I just want to point out that Brian Anderson's personality is the polar opposite of Borch. Anderson is an outgoing sort, usually joking with the people around him. He's more likely to show his emotions, which will endear him to Chicago fans. None of that means a thing when it comes to hitting the damn baseball, but I think Anderson is on the path to becoming a productive, well-liked player.

Guys like Borch often get mistaken for "not caring" by the Chicago faithful because they tend to keep everything inside (see Garland, Jon or Crede, Joe). People want to see Borch smash the bat rack after he strikes out with the bases loaded, but that's not his way. You can't change who you are. I think Borch cares a lot, and he's frustrated that he hasn't been able to live up to expectations. Ask anyone involved in the Sox organization and they'll tell you Borch is a tireless worker. He wants to be a part of this, and he's disappointed that he really isn't. Lack of caring isn't Borch's problem. Borch's main problem is the fact that he sucks. He can't hit a breaking ball to save his soul, and he can't lay off the high fastball. He just isn't a big-league player, IMO.

As for Gload, he's been around awhile. He's been in several organizations, but he's never gotten an opportunity to play every day at the major-league level. Maybe he's bitter about that. Bitterness is never a good thing, as Chris Widger will tell you. That's why Widge walked away from pro ball for a year to play in a beer league for awhile. I'm not saying that's what Gload should do, but I think there's certainly a possibility that Ross needs an attitude adjustment.

I don't know that it's really fair to compare Anderson to Borch and Gload. They are three different personalities, all at three very different stages of their careers.

Domeshot17
11-23-2005, 11:31 AM
Well, lets hope Gload is the 2006 Timo, and Timo is in Japan playing for Bobby V. I think the Gload comments were blown out of proportion, blown up by the media. The guy basically said, I don't know why Im not up, I don't know If I am in the dog house or what I did, and he was pretty much right. For everyone on here bashing Gload for not producing, How many of you were getting sicker and sicker watching Timo Perez be horrible. Did anybody do less to earn 1 million?

I kind of agreed with Gload. The man BLEW UP in triple A. Anderson got the call up when Pods went down, with far less stats than Gload posted. Timo, who was one of the Ozzie loves um so he plays um boys (like Marte). Gload had a very good Series to finish the year, Game winning double and a game saving diving catch. He was on the bench cheering on his boys during the playoffs.

kittle42
11-23-2005, 12:36 PM
Hopefully Gload as a fall back for 1st base is somewhere around plan T in KW's mind.

Thank you. Despite protestations to the contray here for several years now, Ross Gload is not a starting player in the major leagues.

Jenks4Pres
11-23-2005, 12:49 PM
Ross Gload SUCKS.......... I couldn't care less if ........HE GONE!!!!!!!!!!

DaleJRFan
11-23-2005, 01:19 PM
Ross Gload SUCKS.......... I couldn't care less if ........HE GONE!!!!!!!!!!

Post of the month!

Optipessimism
11-23-2005, 01:35 PM
Well, lets hope Gload is the 2006 Timo, and Timo is in Japan playing for Bobby V. I think the Gload comments were blown out of proportion, blown up by the media. The guy basically said, I don't know why Im not up, I don't know If I am in the dog house or what I did, and he was pretty much right. For everyone on here bashing Gload for not producing, How many of you were getting sicker and sicker watching Timo Perez be horrible. Did anybody do less to earn 1 million?

I kind of agreed with Gload. The man BLEW UP in triple A. Anderson got the call up when Pods went down, with far less stats than Gload posted. Timo, who was one of the Ozzie loves um so he plays um boys (like Marte). Gload had a very good Series to finish the year, Game winning double and a game saving diving catch. He was on the bench cheering on his boys during the playoffs.

I'm with you on this one. How is a guy supposed to react? He's been with several different organizations stuck in the high minors behind guys who he had no chance of replacing. He never seemed to get a fair shake until the 2004 season when he showed off his defense at 1B and put together a very nice offensive season. He is in his prime and was IIRC in the top 7-8 in ROY voting and he goes into Spring Training in 2005 with ASSURANCES from the manager that he is an important part of the organization and will not be left off the roster. Then he gets hurt, misses a bit of time, but figures he'll be back after a rehab stint. Afterall, why shouldn't he have been brought back? The ML team had NO backup 1B at all! But instead he is stuck again in AAA for no apparent reason and meanwhile puts up monster numbers. He gets called up briefly and comes up with a couple of big hits down the stretch, but one error that cost us a game which I think caused him to be hard on himself and show a little frustration. Put yourself in his shoes. Can you blame him? If anything the fact that he didn't openly criticize the organization for his treatment shows me that he is a professional. I for one hope he's brought back next year only if he can't get somewhat regular playing time elsewhere, because I think if anything he could be a Doug Mientkiewica type player in the Bigs.

D. TODD
11-23-2005, 01:57 PM
I'm with you on this one. How is a guy supposed to react? He's been with several different organizations stuck in the high minors behind guys who he had no chance of replacing. He never seemed to get a fair shake until the 2004 season when he showed off his defense at 1B and put together a very nice offensive season. He is in his prime and was IIRC in the top 7-8 in ROY voting and he goes into Spring Training in 2005 with ASSURANCES from the manager that he is an important part of the organization and will not be left off the roster. Then he gets hurt, misses a bit of time, but figures he'll be back after a rehab stint. Afterall, why shouldn't he have been brought back? The ML team had NO backup 1B at all! But instead he is stuck again in AAA for no apparent reason and meanwhile puts up monster numbers. He gets called up briefly and comes up with a couple of big hits down the stretch, but one error that cost us a game which I think caused him to be hard on himself and show a little frustration. Put yourself in his shoes. Can you blame him? If anything the fact that he didn't openly criticize the organization for his treatment shows me that he is a professional. I for one hope he's brought back next year only if he can't get somewhat regular playing time elsewhere, because I think if anything he could be a Doug Mientkiewica type player in the Bigs. I wish him well, but he seems to be a quadruple A ballplayer. Hopefully for his sake he can stick on some roster for a few years, but that's about all I can see him doing.

Optipessimism
11-23-2005, 02:19 PM
I wish him well, but he seems to be a quadruple A ballplayer. Hopefully for his sake he can stick on some roster for a few years, but that's about all I can see him doing.

I don't get this. What has he ever done that suggests he can't at least stick in the Majors as a reliable backup 1B or defensive replacement? He plays above average defense, is a LH bat with some pop, has had some success as a PH, and he makes decent contact at the plate. He has no buisness in the minors at all.

Jaime Burke IMO is a AAAA player if they do exist. Maybe Borchard, although I still think if nothing else he will end up in the Bigs for a few years as a reserve. Definately not Gload.

Banix12
11-23-2005, 02:42 PM
I don't get this. What has he ever done that suggests he can't at least stick in the Majors as a reliable backup 1B or defensive replacement? He plays above average defense, is a LH bat with some pop, has had some success as a PH, and he makes decent contact at the plate. He has no buisness in the minors at all.

Jaime Burke IMO is a AAAA player if they do exist. Maybe Borchard, although I still think if nothing else he will end up in the Bigs for a few years as a reserve. Definately not Gload.

I agree that Gload is not a AAAA player. He at least should be a backup 1b on some team, best suited to be on a national league team where his pinch hitting skills could be put to better use.

Burke though also showed at times that he can be a backup player in the majors, he's better than a few of the backup catchers in the league (not many though). I thought the definition of a AAAA player was someone who just absolutely could not make the AAA to Majors transition, like a Scott Ruffcorn or maybe even a Joe Borchard if he continues to hit around .200 in the majors.

HotelWhiteSox
11-23-2005, 05:17 PM
Farmer was just on the Score, he clarifyed that he meant Blum, not Gload

Vernam
11-23-2005, 05:29 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Emily.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Litella)

Oh! Never mind . . . :cool:

Vernam

DickAllen72
11-23-2005, 06:11 PM
Farmer was just on the Score, he clarifyed that he meant Blum, not Gload
I figured he was talking about Blum, although he thought it was Gload. North said to him point blank at the time, "we're talking about Blum, not Gload" and Farmer replied that his friend told him Gload was going to sign with San Diego.

At the time (Saturday), Blum had already signed with SD days earlier.