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KempersRS
07-27-2001, 08:55 PM
Royce should start at short next year. I am 100% serious.

KempersRS
07-27-2001, 08:56 PM
Well, maybe not "should start" but he should get a shot to start everyday.

Daver
07-27-2001, 08:58 PM
Royce the rangeless puss arm should be an everyday player somewhere that is NOT chicago next year,unless we can trade him to the sCrUBS.

KempersRS
07-27-2001, 09:00 PM
I thought I'd never say it...I want him for his bat.

FarWestChicago
07-27-2001, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by KempersRS
I thought I'd never say it...I want him for his bat.

Kempers, are you old enough to be drinking? :)

IA_soxfan
07-27-2001, 09:05 PM
Woah, woah woah. Woah. Just because he hit a homerun tonight doesn't mean he's friggin A-rod. Just because he's been hot these last few weeks doesn't mean he has a place on the 2002 club. If he keeps this up for the rest of the season then maybe we can talk. Anyways, whatever happens, next year everyone's role needs to be defined early, no more dicking around with a new lineup everyday until May and then realizing its not working.

KempersRS
07-27-2001, 09:06 PM
Kempers, are you old enough to be drinking?

I know I know, he is hitting .227, BUT who has been better in the last 6 weeks or so? No one. IF he continues to hit the rest of the year, he should get a shot next year. A huge slump like that can change a player for the rest of his career, he worked hard to figure out what he was doing and now he is a better hitter. That slump could help him become a better hitter from that point on in his career. I am aware he could just be on a roll and suck again, but maybe he learned something from it and can hit .300 given a new full season. We'll see.

Jerry_Manuel
07-27-2001, 09:09 PM
Kempers, are you old enough to be drinking?

I think Kermit does alot of drinking to say some of the things he does.

Mathew
07-27-2001, 09:09 PM
Burn Baby Burn! I think Garth Brooks has a career pre-season batting average of .050 or something and our dear Captain Dip**** Clayton batted .080 for how long? Did so in the place of someone who can hit. For one of the last times Royce Clayton is a steaming talking pile of pigschit and nothing more!

IA_soxfan
07-27-2001, 09:11 PM
Sure, if he keeps this up for the rest of the season, the job is his. But his slow start did help bury us, that along with the use of a new lineup for every day of the week.

PutItOnTheBoard
07-27-2001, 09:11 PM
Well, as someone who has felt that the anger felt towards Royce was misdirected ... I still wouldn't say I want him in there as an *everyday* starter next year. The problem is it really doesn't matter what Kempers or I think because we unfortunately signed him to a rather large, two-year deal. He will more than likely be playing with us next year in some capacity. I still like the idea of finding a way to get something for Ray, and put Royce and Jose at SS and 2nd (in whichever combination works best).

Royce-o-meter:

:hitless

Current batting average: .227
Countdown to career average: .023
Countdown to pass Ray-Ray in BA: .035

IA_soxfan
07-27-2001, 09:12 PM
For one of the last times Royce Clayton is a steaming talking pile of pigschit and nothing more!
C'mon, how do you really feel?
:)

Tragg
07-27-2001, 09:14 PM
Why did we do that?

What in his resume suggests he's worth anywhere near that kind of money?

Mathew
07-27-2001, 09:15 PM
To see him at the plate is to look at a little leaguer. A bad one. Teams know how bad he is and being in the 9 spot he sees nothing but piped fastballs. I should know I batted in the 9 spot once when I was 17 and went 4 for 4 it was great! Many NL. teams have pitchers who hit better than Clayton, Maddux has a good swing, Colorado has some pitchers who can hit why don't we start them at SS next year for their bat? Maddux has several gold gloves we could call hi a defensive speacialist. Sadly our GM would trade away our best players and get Mike Maddux and go WE HONOR THAT ONE I LIKE HIS NAME!

Jerry_Manuel
07-27-2001, 09:16 PM
because we unfortunately signed him to a rather large, two-year deal.

No we traded for him, that dumb ass in Texas Tom Hicks signed him to that big deal.

PutItOnTheBoard
07-27-2001, 09:23 PM
<i>To see him at the plate is to look at a little leaguer. A bad one. Teams know how bad he is and being in the 9 spot he sees nothing but piped fastballs.</i>

Well if that is indeed the case, than "Teams" obviously need to rethink their strategy, as Royce has gotta be one of the hottest hitters in the last month. No, I am not saying that makes up for the abysmal start. He raised his batting average about .030 in the last WEEK. I think the only guy hotter in the last week or so was Lance Berkman.

And yes, I understand it was just one week. Hot weeks come and go. But the fact is the kid keeps battling out there like him or not.

<i>...once when I was 17...</I>

And just how old are you now, if you don't mind, Mathew? I'm just curious before I continue the argument too much further.

PutItOnTheBoard
07-27-2001, 09:27 PM
No we traded for him, that dumb ass in Texas Tom Hicks signed him to that big deal.


OK, now it seems I've got the hang of this new board.

:)

Anyway, you're absolutely right about that JM, my bad. Either way, signing or trade, the onus for the deal falls on the Ken Doll for assuming that large a contract for a career .250 hitter.

Mathew
07-27-2001, 09:28 PM
I'm happy to oblige, I am 19 yrs old. I've been a Sox fan since 1993 when they lost to Toronto in the play-offs on Jacksons strike out. Everyone in Canada went crazy for Toronto so I hated them. I figured I take on the Sox and will never change.

PutItOnTheBoard
07-27-2001, 09:36 PM
Cool! That is an awesome way to become a Sox fan - and probably took some guts. And by the way, I've never doubted your allegiance to the Sox. I just think that a couple of your posts made in the heat of the moment were a little too heavy on the invective. I mean, relax, Royce ain't a child murderer.

And, has been said, one of the better hitters on the Sox recently. Believe me, as a guy with Carlos Lee on his fantasy team, watching the big old horse tank his batting average about .015 over the last week or so has brought me no pleasure. And more importantly, is not helping the Sox at a point when the still had a chance to make a move. Royce, however much you dislike him for the slow start, has been pulling his weight.