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Mr. White Sox
11-15-2005, 02:41 AM
Link of Speculation: (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cs-051114cubssox,1,7497732.story?coll=cs-home-headlines)

Looks like the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, Indians and Tigers are all interested as well. Interesting that we're pursuing him, as it means that Damaso could be on the way out.

Banix12
11-15-2005, 05:17 AM
He's the only lefty reliever available this offseason who seems to be worth a damn, I wouldn't be shocked if the whole league were interested.

OEO Magglio
11-15-2005, 07:29 AM
He's the only lefty reliever available this offseason who seems to be worth a damn, I wouldn't be shocked if the whole league were interested.
Billy Wagner, BJ Ryan.... If you're talking about as a cheap alternative I'd rather have Mike Myers who will be cheaper and is just brutal on left handed hitters, he'd be a perfect fit for ozzie's managerial style.

caulfield12
11-15-2005, 08:29 AM
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-051114cubssox,1,5055773.story?coll=cs-whitesox-headlines

salty99
11-15-2005, 09:20 AM
Interesting. I think we all probably remember the Scott Eyre flop the last time he was here but it seems like he has turned things around. Hopefully Cotts can be the late inning lefty and someone else other than Marte can be the middle inning lefty.

jackbrohamer
11-15-2005, 10:44 AM
Another agent trying to bid up competition among teams for his player. How surprising.

TDog
11-15-2005, 11:27 AM
He's the only lefty reliever available this offseason who seems to be worth a damn ...

Since the Rangers signed Kevin Walker. Marte is a better pitcher than Eyre. I know Sox fans were frustrated with Marte's season, but I would expect Marte to have a better season than Eyre in 2006.

Madvora
11-15-2005, 11:38 AM
I'll take him, but I wouldn't mind seeing any lefty up from the minors in place of Marte.

santo=dorf
11-15-2005, 11:42 AM
This guy sucked here. Why would we want to give him big bucks after his first good season?:?:

NonetheLoaiza
11-15-2005, 11:53 AM
This guy sucked here. Why would we want to give him big bucks after his first good season?:?:

That was ages ago. The past couple of seasons, he has been a pretty solid option out of the bullpen for the Giants.

santo=dorf
11-15-2005, 11:56 AM
That was ages ago. The past couple of seasons, he has been a pretty solid option out of the bullpen for the Giants.

2004: 4.10 ERA, 1.33 WHIP and that was in 52.2 IP in 83 games.

I actually see him as a downgrade from Marte.

NonetheLoaiza
11-15-2005, 12:02 PM
2004: 4.10 ERA, 1.33 WHIP and that was in 52.2 IP in 83 games.

I actually see him as a downgrade from Marte.

It is probably a crap shoot. I just don't like the trend that Marte has showed. Of course, I'm not gonna lose sleep over which one is on the team next year.

buehrle4cy05
11-15-2005, 12:51 PM
I remember seeing an ESPN piece on Eyre. It seems that he had ADHD when he was with the White Sox and had a tough time concentrating. When he went to San Fran, he started taking some medication to help control it and his pitching vastly improved.

infohawk
11-15-2005, 12:58 PM
Pure speculation -- aquiring Eyre allows the Sox to package Marte in a trade to the Marlins for Delgado. We already know the Marlins like Marte. Just a thought.

hawkjt
11-15-2005, 01:45 PM
It just highlights how valuable leftys are. And Marte is in that group. I hope the sox fgive him another chance. He could come back and be dominant again this year. It is all upstairs with him and if his control comes back we are the best in the league for lefty relievers with Cotts and him.

Damaso came back late in the season. He is 1-0 in World Series. Keep him.

antitwins13
11-15-2005, 01:53 PM
I'd rather keep Marte. I think it's hilarious how this guy dominated for two seasons, then has like 4 bad outings and everyone on this site writes him off. He'll be back next year.

chisoxfanatic
11-15-2005, 02:23 PM
Billy Wagner, BJ Ryan.... If you're talking about as a cheap alternative I'd rather have Mike Myers who will be cheaper and is just brutal on left handed hitters, he'd be a perfect fit for ozzie's managerial style.

Apparently, the Yankees are pursuing Ryan GREATLY, so I don't think he'll be coming here.

FielderJones
11-15-2005, 03:20 PM
If you're talking about as a cheap alternative I'd rather have Mike Myers who will be cheaper and is just brutal on left handed hitters, he'd be a perfect fit for ozzie's managerial style.

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SoxFan76
11-15-2005, 05:01 PM
I'd rather keep Marte. I think it's hilarious how this guy dominated for two seasons, then has like 4 bad outings and everyone on this site writes him off. He'll be back next year.

Another insightful post from antitwins. :rolleyes:

Marte had 33 BB compared to 54 Ks...in 45.1 IP!
In 2004 he had 34 walks....in 73.2 IP!

He can't find the plate dude. He's the lefty specialist who couldn't seem to get lefties out.

Although I don't know if Eyre is any better...

Foulke You
11-15-2005, 06:06 PM
Yuck. I'd rather keep Marte than see Eyre pitch in a Sox uniform again. He had some success last year in the WORST division in all of baseball. Eyre would be ripe to get lit up in the AL Central next year just as he did when he played with us before. I don't think he has "turned the corner" as much as he has found a league with worse teams and pitchers that hit.

SoxSpeed22
11-15-2005, 06:11 PM
Eyre would be ripe to get lit up in the AL Central next year just as he did when he played with us before. I don't think he has "turned the corner" as much as he has found a league with worse teams and pitchers that hit.I wonder if BALCO makes ADHD pills as well?

pdimas
11-16-2005, 11:04 AM
Haven't seen this posted yet so I figured I'd attach a link.


Linky (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-051115sox,1,5033906.story?coll=cs-home-headlines)

ElevenUp
11-16-2005, 12:02 PM
It just highlights how valuable leftys are. And Marte is in that group. I hope the sox fgive him another chance. He could come back and be dominant again this year. It is all upstairs with him and if his control comes back we are the best in the league for lefty relievers with Cotts and him.

Damaso came back late in the season. He is 1-0 in World Series. Keep him.

As much as I cringed whenever Ozzie went to Marte this year, I'll agree that his main problem is in his head and not in his arm. Perhaps sitting around this offseason with the thought of his last outing being a World Series win will do a lot for his confidence.

Chisox003
11-16-2005, 12:38 PM
Apparently, the Yankees are pursuing Ryan GREATLY, so I don't think he'll be coming here.
BJ Ryan is going to get a monster contract wherever he goes, so that pretty much eliminates us right there....

But the Yankees? I haven't heard that. I thought he wanted to go somewhere that he was guaranteed to be the closer. Oh well, I guess we'll find out.

chisox
11-16-2005, 12:43 PM
I concur. When it comes to pitting Marte against Eyre, I'm going to side with Marte. Eyre just doesn't have that much on Marte.

I'd rather save the money toward locking other guys up.

Lip Man 1
11-16-2005, 12:49 PM
An issue that has to be considered with Eyre is the amount of work he's been getting the past four years. He needs to be checked very carefully for any potential arm injuries. Remember it's not just the innings actually pitched that add up, it's the number of times called to warm up before you even get into a game as well.

He's had a very heavy workload for a long time.

Lip

Jjav829
11-17-2005, 07:23 PM
Scott Eyre has told the Giants he wants to pitch closer to his Florida home. He has narrowed his choice to the Cubs, Cardinals, Astros and Braves.
Obviously, he wants to stay in the NL. Consider the Cubs the favorites for his services. He might get a three-year deal similar to the one that Mike Remlinger just finished up.

Yeah, Chicago is like right next to Florida...:rolleyes:

If he is considering the Cubs but not the Sox, then apparently he really does want to stay in the NL. Levine is reporting that the Cubs are close to signing Eyre.

It looks like we can move on from this idea.

ilsox7
11-17-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah, Chicago is like right next to Florida...:rolleyes:

If he is considering the Cubs but not the Sox, then apparently he really does want to stay in the NL. Levine is reporting that the Cubs are close to signing Eyre.

It looks like we can move on from this idea.
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If Bruce Levine reports, then it is sure not to happen.

Jjav829
11-17-2005, 07:54 PM
If Bruce Levine reports, then it is sure not to happen.

Well this quote certainly makes it sound like Levine might be right this time.

Agent Tommy Tanzer said free agent Scott Eyre is close to reaching agreement on a deal but wouldn't say with which club.
"It could be relatively soon, before the weekend potentially, or sooner," he said. Tanzer stated yesterday that it was between the Cubs, Cardinals, Astros and Braves. We believe he's choosing the Cubs' offer.

santo=dorf
11-17-2005, 07:59 PM
A guy claiming to be Michael Ogulnick on the Cubs.com message board is saying it should be announced soon.

EDIT: Supposedly 3 years $11 million.

Hendry is a damn fool. Mike Remlinger part II.

ilsox7
11-17-2005, 08:02 PM
I hope the CUbs sign him to a nice, long, expensive deal.

Kogs35
11-17-2005, 08:03 PM
A guy claiming to be Michael Ogulnick on the Cubs.com message board is saying it should be announced soon.

ROTFL that most likely is him, since hes mentioned before that he posts on those message boards.

veeter
11-17-2005, 08:07 PM
I hope the CUbs sign him to a nice, long, expensive deal.I agree. This guy is not that good. He'll do o.k. staying in the craptional league, but I'll take Marte over him anyday.

JohnBasedowYoda
11-17-2005, 08:17 PM
I'd rather keep Marte. I think it's hilarious how this guy dominated for two seasons, then has like 4 bad outings and everyone on this site writes him off. He'll be back next year.

4 bad outings?! you must have only seen 4 of his outings.

I won't miss him

cbrownson13
11-17-2005, 09:04 PM
I was going to make a new thread on this, but what the hell... per rotoworld.com...

The Cubs and Scott Eyre have reportedly agreed to terms on a two-year deal with a player option for a third year.
FOXSports.com is calling it a three-year, $11 million deal. It's probably a better signing than the Neifi Perez and Glendon Rusch deals, but the Cubs are spending a lot of money on players who don't qualify as difference makers. Eyre is unlikely to ever again be as effective as he was last season.

It's Time
11-17-2005, 09:15 PM
Tis official. He's solid but I don't think he is worth over 3M per year.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051117&content_id=1269750&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

It's Time
11-17-2005, 09:34 PM
Wow! I just checked Eyre's splits and they are pretty impressive over the last 3 seasons. Still, that is a hefty price tag for a pen guy. Then again, the Cubs had so many problems out of the pen last year that they have to be aggressive.

munchman33
11-17-2005, 09:53 PM
Wow. That's a lot of money for Scott Eyre. Imagine what this does to the value of every other reliever out there.

salty99
11-17-2005, 10:24 PM
3 year $11 million dollars with the Cubs. Player option for 2008.

buehrle4cy05
11-17-2005, 10:25 PM
They drastically overpaid him.

Norberto7
11-17-2005, 10:26 PM
Souuuuuuurrrrrrrrrce? :rolleyes:

salty99
11-17-2005, 10:27 PM
my source is espn.com...mlb.com need I go on? :)

It's Time
11-17-2005, 10:29 PM
Souuuuuuurrrrrrrrrce? :rolleyes:

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=chc

There is another thread on this already. He was easily the top pen guy out there. The Cubs paid a bit much but they have to be aggressive.

rdivaldi
11-17-2005, 10:32 PM
There is another thread on this already. He was easily the top pen guy out there.

I have a feeling that Billy Wagner and BJ Ryan might have something to say about that...

It's Time
11-17-2005, 10:33 PM
I have a feeling that Billy Wagner and BJ Ryan might have something to say about that...

I meant non-closer types. Sorry about that.

Norberto7
11-17-2005, 10:34 PM
my source is espn.com...mlb.com need I go on? :)

If you would... :D:

So, I guess it's safe to say the Cubs will have a new Eyre about them next year.

:duck:

Yeah, not bad for him, parlaying a fine year into a 260% raise. But, that's the glamour that comes with being the National League holds leader, right?

rdivaldi
11-17-2005, 10:35 PM
I meant non-closer types. Sorry about that.

No need to apologize, if I had thought about it I probably would have figured out what you were getting at. Anyway, I agree with whoever said that they overpaid for him. But that's the Flubbie way...

Tragg
11-17-2005, 10:42 PM
Geeze that's a lot of cash for what is a situational lefty +.

HotelWhiteSox
11-17-2005, 10:46 PM
I call bust!

Brian26
11-17-2005, 10:51 PM
5.5 million for Erye? Good grief.

buehrle4cy05
11-17-2005, 10:52 PM
5.5 million for Erye? Good grief.

Really. Can you say desperate?

rookieroy
11-17-2005, 11:11 PM
Wow! Is that the going rate for a situational lefty who had a good year last year? Does that mean that Marte is a steal and we should sign him to a long term extension? Should that last sentence be in teal?

I'm shocked and I ask way too many questions for another dumb flubs signing.

Evman5
11-17-2005, 11:17 PM
Who cares? We won the world series!

I agree though, they did overpay.

Lip Man 1
11-17-2005, 11:19 PM
It must be nice to have a budget that allows you to throw money away isn't it? The story on ESPN.com says Eyre had serious offers from the Yankees, White Sox and Angels but wanted to stay in the National League.

I hope he enjoys 4th place finishes.

Lip

It's Time
11-17-2005, 11:21 PM
I read an ESPN article that every team in baseball asked about him:?: . The most aggressive teams were the Red Sox, Angels, White Sox, Yankees and Cubs.

It's Time
11-17-2005, 11:24 PM
The story on ESPN.com says Eyre had serious offers from the Yankees, White Sox and Angels but wanted to stay in the National League.Lip

The story on ESPN.com is under "top headlines" no less:rolleyes: .

HotelWhiteSox
11-17-2005, 11:58 PM
but wanted to stay in the National League.


Sports translation for $$

kittle42
11-18-2005, 12:03 AM
Souuuuuuurrrrrrrrrce? :rolleyes:

It might have been easier to go to espn.com or the like instead of asking for a source and waiting around. :cool:

TornLabrum
11-18-2005, 12:04 AM
When to the Cubs start printing World Series Tickets? They just guaranteed themselves the NL pennant!

rdivaldi
11-18-2005, 12:12 AM
5.5 million for Erye? Good grief.

Actually, wouldn't the $11 million include the option year? So that comes to $3.67 million per year, which while still expensive seems a bit more reasonable.

JUribe1989
11-18-2005, 12:20 AM
Wow, so I guess the Cubs are almost done spending this offseason. Between Dempster and Eyre that's a hell of a lot of money.

Lip Man 1
11-18-2005, 12:26 AM
The Cubs are going into the off season with 30 million dollars to spend since Sosa's deal as well as some others come off their books. That's a hell of a lot of money to burn.

I'd be thrilled if the Sox would raise their payroll another ten to fifteen million.

Lip

santo=dorf
11-18-2005, 12:53 AM
The Cubs are going into the off season with 30 million dollars to spend since Sosa's deal as well as some others come off their books. That's a hell of a lot of money to burn.

I'd be thrilled if the Sox would raise their payroll another ten to fifteen million.

Lip

Would you be happy if the Sox spent that 10-15 million on trash like Rusch, Perez, and Eyre??? :?:

SoxSpeed22
11-18-2005, 01:06 AM
Would you be happy if the Sox spent that 10-15 million on trash like Rusch, Perez, and Eyre??? :?:If there's one thing the Dodgers and the Rangers have taught us over the last few years, having money to spend is one thing, spending the money right is a completely different thing.

samram
11-18-2005, 01:10 AM
It must be nice to have a budget that allows you to throw money away isn't it? The story on ESPN.com says Eyre had serious offers from the Yankees, White Sox and Angels but wanted to stay in the National League.

I hope he enjoys 4th place finishes.

Lip

Hell, I would want to stay in the NL too. Why go through the stress of facing good hitters when you can play in division which may see Lyle Overbay and Adam Dunn leave, leaving Jim Edmonds, Lance Berkman, and perhaps Brian Giles (if he signs with the Cards) as the only good lefties? Cleveland alone has more good left-handed hitters than the entire NL Central.

Banix12
11-18-2005, 01:36 AM
Actually, wouldn't the $11 million include the option year? So that comes to $3.67 million per year, which while still expensive seems a bit more reasonable.

You are correct sir. It is a guaranteed 3 year $11 million dollar contract but Eyre has the option to opt out after year 2 and seek a better deal if he so chooses.

Norberto7
11-18-2005, 01:39 AM
It might have been easier to go to espn.com or the like instead of asking for a source and waiting around. :cool:

To be honest, it wouldn't be. :whistle:

ilsox7
11-18-2005, 01:39 AM
WOW. They way overpaid. I bet he puts up a 4+ ERA the next 2 years.

Banix12
11-18-2005, 01:49 AM
2 year $11 million dollars with the Cubs. Player option for 2008.

Salty, change your post. Your details are wrong. 3 years, guaranteed $11 million, Eyre has a player option to VOID the contract after the 2007 season and become a free agent. In case he feels he can get a better deal.

MUsoxfan
11-18-2005, 03:21 AM
Does that mean that Marte is a steal and we should sign him to a long term extension? Should that last sentence be in teal?



Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Marte went for more than Eyre on the open market. IMO while he had his bad moments, he looks alot worse because our bullpen was stellar

Steelrod
11-18-2005, 04:29 AM
The Cubs are going into the off season with 30 million dollars to spend since Sosa's deal as well as some others come off their books. That's a hell of a lot of money to burn.

I'd be thrilled if the Sox would raise their payroll another ten to fifteen million.

Lip
I am more concerned with how they spend their money, not how much they spend. My goal is wins, not increased payroll and ticket prices.

salty99
11-18-2005, 09:47 AM
Ok 3 year 11 million. 1.5 million signing bonus with a no trade clause and up to 2.4 million more in incentives. 3 million in 06, 4 million in 07, 4 million in 08 is the base salary.

bobowhite
11-18-2005, 09:49 AM
2 year $11 million dollars with the Cubs. Player option for 2008.

Thats 3 years for $11 million. Expensive but not a gross overpayment; for a guy who pitches in 80 games a year.

veeter
11-18-2005, 09:51 AM
The cubs can have him.

IlliniSox4Life
11-18-2005, 10:23 AM
The cubs can have him.

I agree. Would've been a good pickup, but he's just a reliever, and as much as you like a good reliever, he's not a starting pitcher or every day position player.

Dan Mega
11-18-2005, 10:42 AM
He's no Cliff or Neil. Thats for sure.

SoxFan78
11-18-2005, 11:33 AM
Scott Eyre is on 670 AM right now and he said one of the reasons he picked the Cubs was because of their winning tradition!

I still think his ADD is affecting him!

samram
11-18-2005, 11:42 AM
Scott Eyre is on 670 AM right now and he said one of the reasons he picked the Cubs was because of their winning tradition!

I still think his ADD is affecting him!

Right. I think what Scott meant to say is he picked the Cubs because he could stay in the NL, pitch in a division which may have very few good left-handed hitters, and play for a manager who doesn't hold players accountable for poor performance.

veeter
11-18-2005, 11:44 AM
Right. I think what Scott meant to say is he picked the Cubs because he could stay in the NL, pitch in a division which may have very few good left-handed hitters, and play for a manager who doesn't hold players accountable for poor performance. Nice.

RallyBowl
11-18-2005, 11:51 AM
Right. I think what Scott meant to say is he picked the Cubs because he could stay in the NL, pitch in a division which may have very few good left-handed hitters, and play for a manager who doesn't hold players accountable for poor performance.

POTW material right there. Does anyone really think we were that interested in this guy? I wasn't. Another southside castoff finds his way north. Any word on whether he can be moved into the starting rotation when Wood and/or Prior make their annual trips to the DL?

bobowhite
11-18-2005, 11:57 AM
Scott Eyre is on 670 AM right now and he said one of the reasons he picked the Cubs was because of their winning tradition!!

If I could call in I'd ask him this question:

"When is your first simulated game?"

Lip Man 1
11-18-2005, 12:39 PM
Dorf et al:

My comment was in response to Uribe's post about the Cubs 'almost being done' spending this off season. When you have that much money to throw around you aren't 'done.'

And if the Sox could raise the payroll even a quarter of that which the Cubs apparently are going to spend this off season they could get some pretty damn good players. This is now a championship organization...that does make a difference to some players.

Lip

TheOldRoman
11-18-2005, 12:54 PM
Dorf et al:

My comment was in response to Uribe's post about the Cubs 'almost being done' spending this off season. When you have that much money to throw around you aren't 'done.'

And if the Sox could raise the payroll even a quarter of that which the Cubs apparently are going to spend this off season they could get some pretty damn good players. This is now a championship organization...that does make a difference to some players.

Lip
*shakes head*
The Cubs payroll was $87 million in 05. I dont know if you have any indications the Cubs plan on RAISING payroll, and not just respending the extra $30 million that came off their books. I can almost garauntee they wont raise payroll. They dont need to, because the sheep will flock to the urinal anyway. Sox payroll will go up AT LEAST $10 million. That I can promise, and there is the possibility of it going up by $20 million. If The Cubs dont raise their payroll, it will be approximately the same as the Sox. Of course the Cubs have more money to work with, seeing as they got an extra 600,000 people in the stands this year.

Lip, drop your sword and walk home. Reinsdorf won, your battle is over. Give it up.

TomBradley72
11-18-2005, 01:35 PM
No way are the Cubs finished spending...they have an entire OF to rebuild and still don't have a lead off hitter....I'd predict at least a $95-100MM payroll. Can't believe they're paying $11MM over 3 years for a 33 year old reliever...but glad they are foolish enough to do so.

Dan Mega
11-18-2005, 01:37 PM
No way are the Cubs finished spending...they have an entire OF to rebuild and still don't have a lead off hitter....I'd predict at least a $95-100MM payroll. Can't believe they're paying $11MM over 3 years for a 33 year old reliever...but glad they are foolish enough to do so.

Payroll WILL be raised. After watching the Southsiders take home the trophy...

Banix12
11-18-2005, 01:44 PM
Ok 3 year 11 million. 1.5 million signing bonus with a no trade clause and up to 2.4 million more in incentives. 3 million in 06, 4 million in 07, 4 million in 08 is the base salary.

I meant change your original post, not write a new one. That way people will stop coming onto the thread, read your initial post and write knee jerk responses thinking he's making 5.5 million a year.

Paulwny
11-18-2005, 01:45 PM
Scott Eyre is on 670 AM right now and he said one of the reasons he picked the Cubs was because of their winning tradition!

I still think his ADD is affecting him!

This statement by Eyre is further proof that the vast majority of players need agents. If he didn't have an arm I wonder what occupation he would fit into.

Domeshot17
11-18-2005, 02:32 PM
Seeing as how that world series trophy made the sox value as a team go up almost 40 million dollars, Jerry will pump about half of that into the team. For all the BS he has pulled with the Sox, this is the same man that gave Jordan 36 million for one season. Granted Jordan made that back in half a year, but with all the sox merchandise going now, he has probably already pocketed a cool 12 mil off the playoffs alone, not counting the enormous boost in season ticket sales and the expecte rise in ticket prices (my guess is about 8.5% a ticket)

FielderJones
11-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Payroll WILL be raised. After watching the Southsiders take home the trophy...

Big deal. As has been mentioned earlier, the sheep will fill the Urinal whether they spend $100 million on payroll or put an Iowa AAA team out there. The Cubune company has no incentive to put a contender on the field.

hawkjt
11-18-2005, 04:19 PM
Again, I like Damaso over Eyre anyway and at the price paid for eyre- even better. He is making 3,4,4 mil over the next three. Damaso is 2 mil next year.

Tragg
11-18-2005, 04:55 PM
Dorf et al:

My comment was in response to Uribe's post about the Cubs 'almost being done' spending this off season. When you have that much money to throw around you aren't 'done.'

And if the Sox could raise the payroll even a quarter of that which the Cubs apparently are going to spend this off season they could get some pretty damn good players. This is now a championship organization...that does make a difference to some players.

Lip

You really think that the Cubs are opening up the vaults? My guess is that they, as always, have no real plan of attack, and are squandering a lot of the cash they have to spend on back-up players like perez and eyre essentially are.

Lip Man 1
11-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Tragg:

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. The Cubs have averaged I think a payroll of ninty million or more for the past four or five years. I think their payroll will be around 95 myself.

I use the term 'they have 30 million to spend,' because everything I have heard and seen is quoting that figure. Doesn't mean it's right though..

:smile:

Roman:

This has nothing to do with Uncle Jerry. Uribe said the Cubs were 'through' spending. I happen to think they are far from done spending and hope the Sox will follow their lead.

Lip

VivaOzzie
11-18-2005, 05:40 PM
I still think his ADD is affecting him!

I heard that he started pitching a lot better once he found out he had ADD. Does anyone else think that this may be because of the fact that people with ADD get perscribed ampetimines?!?! I mean, he gets to take ritalin or aderol (sp?) legally, whereas now there is a policy against it. I'm assuming he gets out of that because of his ADD...

Watch the ADD rate among major leaguers BALLOON next season! (teal?)

JohnBasedowYoda
11-18-2005, 06:49 PM
big contract, needed in the pen......

how many days will he spend on the dl this year?

maurice
11-18-2005, 07:04 PM
Wow, that's a big contract for a situational reliever like Eyre. Can't blame KW for passing.

Tragg
11-18-2005, 08:30 PM
Tragg:

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. The Cubs have averaged I think a payroll of ninty million or more for the past four or five years. I think their payroll will be around 95 myself.

I use the term 'they have 30 million to spend,' because everything I have heard and seen is quoting that figure. Doesn't mean it's right though..

Lip

They probably will spend that money. Regardless, spending, what, 7.5-8 per year for two backups (one of which is decent, the other not so decent) suggests that they'll need a 150M payroll to get it done.

julio-cruz
11-19-2005, 10:40 AM
gee! I wonder what Steve Philips has to say about this signing. ESPN may have to have another one of their simulated press conferences to say how brilliant a move Hendry made. Steve knows what it's like to overpay for mediocre talent.

doogiec
11-19-2005, 12:13 PM
Unbelievable story about this in today's Trib, if this is accurate Eyre is an absolute loser:

"Scott Eyre was so intent on becoming a Cub he accepted their three-year, $11 million offer without trying to find out if he could get more elsewhere.

"We never negotiated with the other teams," agent Tommy Tanzer said, referring to Houston, St. Louis and Atlanta, the other three finalists."

and

"What finally convinced Eyre, along with the money, was a talk with Cubs pitcher Glendon Rusch, who told him the team had an end-of-the-season dinner party on the final weekend in Houston.

"He said [just about] the whole team was there," Eyre said. "We didn't have that in San Francisco.""

That says everything I needed to know about Eyre. Hope he enjoys his dinner parties.

Entire story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-0511190157nov19,1,4840479.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed

FielderJones
11-19-2005, 02:59 PM
gee! I wonder what Steve Philips has to say about this signing. ESPN may have to have another one of their simulated press conferences to say how brilliant a move Hendry made. Steve knows what it's like to overpay for mediocre talent.

Julio, I know you're new and all, but ...

:tealtutor:

ChiSoxPatF
11-19-2005, 03:24 PM
"Scott Eyre was so intent on becoming a Cub he accepted their three-year, $11 million offer without trying to find out if he could get more elsewhere.

"We never negotiated with the other teams," agent Tommy Tanzer said, referring to Houston, St. Louis and Atlanta, the other three finalists."


Why would he negotiate with any other teams? If you find a sucker to pay $11 mil over 3 years to an aging mid-reliever, you take the money and run.

Another reason I think Jim Hendry is a moron. The Cubs consistently have a $90 mil payroll but blow it on aging, mid-talent players with enormous contracts.

samram
11-19-2005, 03:42 PM
Unbelievable story about this in today's Trib, if this is accurate Eyre is an absolute loser:

"Scott Eyre was so intent on becoming a Cub he accepted their three-year, $11 million offer without trying to find out if he could get more elsewhere.

"We never negotiated with the other teams," agent Tommy Tanzer said, referring to Houston, St. Louis and Atlanta, the other three finalists."

and

"What finally convinced Eyre, along with the money, was a talk with Cubs pitcher Glendon Rusch, who told him the team had an end-of-the-season dinner party on the final weekend in Houston.

"He said [just about] the whole team was there," Eyre said. "We didn't have that in San Francisco.""

That says everything I needed to know about Eyre. Hope he enjoys his dinner parties.

Entire story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-0511190157nov19,1,4840479.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed

That is quintessential Cubdumb. "Screw winning- who's throwing the best party?!"

Hitmen77
11-19-2005, 06:11 PM
I don't see why Eyre or any other player would want to come to the Cubs for any reason other than money. From all we've heard over the last 2 years, it doesn't exactly sound like the clubhouse atmosphere under Dusty is that great. And then there's that great winning tradition - they wouldn't exactly be my choice if my goal was to make it to the World Series someday.

The other thing I hear from the Trib that I don't get is how players want to sign with the Cubs to play at Wrigley Field. Why? I heard that their facilities are antiquated and their clubhouse and training areas are very cramped by major league standards.

SOXSINCE'70
11-20-2005, 11:29 AM
one of the reasons he picked the Cubs was because of their winning tradition!


Is that winning or whining??:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

voodoochile
11-20-2005, 12:01 PM
Geeze that's a lot of cash for what is a situational lefty +.

That's exactly right. That price is insane for a guy who will face a few batters a game max.

Starting to think the flubbies front office is completely clueless, not merely bad at talent evaluation. Even with a huge payroll, that's just too much freaking money.

Lip Man 1
11-20-2005, 02:17 PM
Lots of home afternoon games means being home with the family at night or if you are single being able to go out on the town. To many players that is appealing.

Lip

Palehose13
11-20-2005, 02:22 PM
or if you are single being able to go out on the town.
Lip

:?:

I don't think day games appeal to the single guys that like to go out. If it were me, I'd rather be able to get out at midnight and sleep until noon instead of having to get to the park at 9am after a night on the town.

I can see the appeal for family guys, but not the single ones.

TDog
11-20-2005, 03:23 PM
...
"What finally convinced Eyre, along with the money, was a talk with Cubs pitcher Glendon Rusch, who told him the team had an end-of-the-season dinner party on the final weekend in Houston.

"He said [just about] the whole team was there," Eyre said. "We didn't have that in San Francisco.""...

I don't know anything about the Cubs' end-of-season dinner party, but I'm guessing it wasn't as good as the party the Sox threw when their season ended a few weeks later.