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kruzer31
11-04-2005, 01:57 PM
If Konerko gets too expensive, does anyone know if Mike Sweeny from the Kansas City Royals is available as a free agent? If not, toss KC some prospects for Sweeny. Mike Sweeny healthy could put up 35 and 100 at first at a cheaper price.

Stoky44
11-04-2005, 01:58 PM
PK leaving is not an option...................yet. :?: :(:

WestSox
11-04-2005, 02:00 PM
I'd love to see Sweeney in a Sox uniform, but I doubt that the Royals would let their captain go. He's the only reason the 10,000 or so fans even bother coming to their ballpark anymore.

soxfan26
11-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Dude What's The Score?

skobabe8
11-04-2005, 02:13 PM
I think our perception of Sweeney is a little skewed. He kills the Sox, but is less impressive against most everyone else. I'd pass on Sweeney.

Madvora
11-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I think our perception of Sweeney is a little skewed. He kills the Sox, but is less impressive against most everyone else. I'd pass on Sweeney.
Sure, he kills us, but look how well he does against everyone else too.

- 1999 - .322 (150 games)
- 2000 - .333 (159 games)
- 2001 - .304 (147 games)
- 2002 - .340 (126 games)
- 2003 - .293 (108 games)
- 2004 - .287 (106 games)
- 2005 - .300 (122 games)

Just talking about stats here, but he's not coming to the Sox. This has already been discussed in the middle of this season.

Palehose Pete
11-04-2005, 03:29 PM
Sweeney is a little too prone to getting hurt. Then again, people said the same thing about Jermaine Dye and look how that turned out.

skobabe8
11-04-2005, 03:49 PM
Sweeney is a little too prone to getting hurt. Then again, people said the same thing about Jermaine Dye and look how that turned out.

But Dyes injuries were more "flukish", like him breaking his leg or whatever it was on that foul boul. Sweeney has had chronic back problems.

sas1974
11-04-2005, 03:55 PM
Sure, he kills us, but look how well he does against everyone else too.

- 1999 - .322 (150 games)
- 2000 - .333 (159 games)
- 2001 - .304 (147 games)
- 2002 - .340 (126 games)
- 2003 - .293 (108 games)
- 2004 - .287 (106 games)
- 2005 - .300 (122 games)

Just talking about stats here, but he's not coming to the Sox. This has already been discussed in the middle of this season.

I think the key stat here is the one in parenthesis. The baseball season is 162+.

caulfield12
11-04-2005, 04:19 PM
If Konerko gets too expensive, does anyone know if Mike Sweeny from the Kansas City Royals is available as a free agent? If not, toss KC some prospects for Sweeny. Mike Sweeny healthy could put up 35 and 100 at first at a cheaper price.

Bad idea...Sweeney is very much overpaid, as he is ostensibly a full-time DH at this point in his career. He is a terrible defender at 1B, much worse than Frank Thomas ever was.

By the way, we really would not have to give up much, because the Royals would love to get his salary off the books...the problem is that it would be a public relations disaster for a franchise seemingly doomed to 100 more losses next season. They would cease to exist if they dealt him.

Sweeney is a very religious player and is well liked by everyone, but his toughness has always been questioned. He is captain, but not very vocal, I would say a similar temperament to what Ordonez was in the Sox clubhouse. He has missed a lot of games that his teammates felt he could have played in. Muser said he needed to ¨get drunk and stop eating milk and cookies,¨to be more like the old-time players of his day.

His back problems get more and more problematic with each season. The Royals have lost Damon, Dye and Beltran...and probably made a big mistake in paying Sweeney instead of Beltran, because CF´ers are more important than 1B-DH´s in today´s game.

cwsfannick
11-04-2005, 04:25 PM
What I found so ironic about Sweeney and the Royals is the fact that going into the 2005 season he was the highest paid player in the AL Central at $11MM.

Banix12
11-04-2005, 04:49 PM
What I found so ironic about Sweeney and the Royals is the fact that going into the 2005 season he was the highest paid player in the AL Central at $11MM.

Goes up to 12.5 if he is traded and according to his no-trade clause the only team in Chicago he can be traded to is the Cubs.

caulfield12
11-04-2005, 04:52 PM
Goes up to 12.5 if he is traded and according to his no-trade clause the only team in Chicago he can be traded to is the Cubs.

It is much more likely we would trade for Nomar Garciaparra than Mike Sweeney. But neither one is going to happen...and the Royals and David Glass, penny pincher extraordinaire from Wal-Mart days, is not going to donate any of salary to the acquiring team. It is not in his blood.

Banix12
11-04-2005, 04:55 PM
It is much more likely we would trade for Nomar Garciaparra than Mike Sweeney. But neither one is going to happen...and the Royals and David Glass, penny pincher extraordinaire from Wal-Mart days, is not going to donate any of salary to the acquiring team. It is not in his blood.

It is actually far more likely that we would trade for Sweeney. Nomar is a free agent.

soxfanreggie
11-04-2005, 05:15 PM
Sox with Nomar...would he play 1B? I like Uribe at short and either Crede or whoever they might trade him for at 3rd.

caulfield12
11-04-2005, 05:16 PM
It is actually far more likely that we would trade for Sweeney. Nomar is a free agent.

Well, since we are always into resurrecting careers ravaged by injury (Ellis Burks, Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas), we might as well take a shot at Garciaparra, lol, in an incentives-based deal.

We know he can be a 3 hitter when healthy...and how many of them are out there on the market? Brian Giles and Lyle Overbay seem to be two of the best options, and neither one of them are sure things, either.

Palehose Pete
11-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Yikes. How in the world did we get to Nomar from Sweeney? I wouldn't sign Nomar for all the beer in Wisconsin. Even though I would dig seeing Mia Hamm hanging around Comiskey, No-maaahhh is waaaaaay to injury-prone.

What about Phil Nevin if Paulie leaves?

caulfield12
11-04-2005, 05:31 PM
Yikes. How in the world did we get to Nomar from Sweeney? I wouldn't sign Nomar for all the beer in Wisconsin. Even though I would dig seeing Mia Hamm hanging around Comiskey, No-maaahhh is waaaaaay to injury-prone.

What about Phil Nevin if Paulie leaves?

Nevin is going to be 35 years old in January....has not been wanted by a number of organizations during his career, including this year...and has not posted an OPS above .900 since 2001. No thanks.

Nevin is not the answer either, and historically, he has not filled the 3 or 4 role successfully.

Lip Man 1
11-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Sweeney has a bad back which is one of those things that is never really cured. It can go out at anytime. I wouldn't recommend this move.

Lip

antitwins13
11-04-2005, 07:11 PM
Dude What's The Score?


Dude, welcome to two days ago
http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=61794

TaylorStSox
11-04-2005, 07:14 PM
A healthy Sweeney's intriguing. However, his salary + bad back + hate for all things White Sox make him unrealistic.

CluelessJoe1919
11-04-2005, 08:12 PM
Sweeney would be a great option. He's a better hitter than Konerko to start with. It all depends on how much it would take to bring him here.
If the Sox can get Tiexeira, as rumored, they should do so even if they hang onto Konerko.

donhoward1
11-04-2005, 11:45 PM
Take a flyer on Colorado's Ryan Shealy. He's a 6'5' 240 lb rookie first baseman that hits for power and average. He'd be the Rockies first baseman now if it weren't for Helton. The Rockies want Marte. Something could be worked out.

Banix12
11-05-2005, 01:15 AM
Take a flyer on Colorado's Ryan Shealy. He's a 6'5' 240 lb rookie first baseman that hits for power and average. He'd be the Rockies first baseman now if it weren't for Helton. The Rockies want Marte. Something could be worked out.

Nice idea, i've looked at his stats before and he certainly looks good, but why do you think the Rockies would be willing to get rid of him? If anything, the fact that they have this cheap rookie who hits for average and power just creates more of a reason for getting rid of Helton and his big contract, not trade Shealy.

donhoward1
11-05-2005, 10:49 AM
The Rockies have an image problem. They have a history of trading away their higher paid players and going with rookies or other teams rejects. Last years crop of rookies have shown great potential and it appears that they now have some pitchers that ca operate at this altitude. Helton is as much of an icon in Denver as Thomas is in Chicago. The fans would consider trading him as another bail-out move just when there is a glimmer of hope. They are trying Shealy in the outfield this winter, that's not going to work.