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Joosh
10-31-2005, 11:05 AM
Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2207180)

We really were making history, in many ways.

If you like patterns and numbers, this is an interesting read.

Unregistered
10-31-2005, 11:12 AM
Some interesting observations:

One of our favorite loyal readers -- Eric Orns, reminds us that Podsednik not only went through the season homerless. He also nearly went through the season without a triple. (He hit exactly one triple -- and didn't do that until Sept. 13.)

So naturally, he hit two triples in the World Series. Which means a man who hit one triple and zero homers during a six-month baseball season beat his totals in both categories in a four-game World Series. Unbelievable.

As loyal reader Mike Greco observes, Mark Buehrle pieced together two feats this year that are really tough to do. He started the All-Star Game (and won it) and saved a World Series game. So how many pitchers have ever done both in the same year? None, according to Elias.

What did all 113 innings that White Sox pitchers threw in this postseason have in common? As the Detroit Free Press' John Lowe reports, none turned into a three-run inning (or more).


That's the longest streak without a three-run inning, in one postseason, by any pitching staff in history. And there have been just six such streaks that even made it through 40 innings, according to retrosheet.org's Dave Smith:

2005: White Sox (113)
1983: Orioles (82)
1969: Orioles (76)
1976: Reds (63)
1993: Braves (55)
1981: Phillies (44)
2000: Giants (40)

Realist
10-31-2005, 11:21 AM
This is nuts...


Useless Walkathon Info
How unlikely was it that the White Sox pitching staff, of all teams, would set an all-time Series record for walks in one game (12, in Game 3)? Well, as loyal reader Eric Orns points out, control hadn't exactly been their problem before that.


In their previous 10 postseason games, White Sox pitchers walked 13 hitters -- in 90 innings. So naturally, they then walked 12 in one game. If you pull out your rearview mirrors, the Sox had walked 12 or more hitters only three times in the previous 10 seasons (that's 1,600 games). And then they did it in a World Series game -- which they won. What a sport.

cheeses_h_rice
10-31-2005, 11:22 AM
My favorite piece of trivia:

Speaking of walks, nothing beats a box-score line that's just about mathematically impossible. So after this World Series, we honor Orlando (El Duque) Hernandez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6019) for his magical contribution to October box-score lore in his Game 3 relief appearance: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, 28 pitches, 8 strikes

OK, swirl that one around in your head a second. One inning, four walks and no runs. Hard to do.

Also: Eight strikes, three outs, two of them on strikeouts. Just as hard to do.

So how'd El Duque do it? Walked the bases loaded in the ninth. Pitched out of it (thanks to those two strikeouts). Issued a leadoff walk in the 10th. Then departed.

If you're wondering, no other pitcher in World Series history ever had a scoreless outing of at least an inning in which he racked up more walks than outs.

VenturaSoxFan23
10-31-2005, 11:50 AM
You want useless trivia? I'll give you totally useless.

I don't go to very many games per year. But, since the Sox started playing in the new park, they have never lost a game in which I was there in attendance. Not a one. (15 years, has to be at least 20+ something games at least.)
Only opening day game I ever attended was this season.

That's useless. :redneck

itsnotrequired
10-31-2005, 11:53 AM
You want useless trivia? I'll give you totally useless.

I don't go to very many games per year. But, since the Sox started playing in the new park, they have never lost a game in which I was there in attendance. Not a one. (15 years, has to be at least 20+ something games at least.)
Only opening day game I ever attended was this season.

That's useless. :redneck

WSI needs to chip in and get you a full-season ticket package!:D:

VenturaSoxFan23
10-31-2005, 12:15 PM
I'll be cheap and just ask for the Mark Buehrle ticket plan.

Every game would be half-price because most of his starts don't go over 2 hours...lol.

daveeym
10-31-2005, 12:39 PM
That 3 run inning stat was neat along with this one 45 different players hit at least 20 homers in a season for the White Sox That doesn't seem like many over 88 years.

Joosh
10-31-2005, 12:59 PM
That 3 run inning stat was neat along with this one That doesn't seem like many over 88 years.

Yes, and I'm sure a large chunk of those players were on the team in the past 10 years. Just a guess though. :redface:

wilburaga
10-31-2005, 01:31 PM
Here's another tidbit.

White Sox players now hold the distinction of hitting a home run in the latest inning in the regular season (Harold Baines, May 8/9, 1984, 25th inning) and the World Series (Geoff Blum, October 25/26, 2005, 14th inning.


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Mark
11-01-2005, 02:50 PM
Coincidence or Ripley's?

Years (1967-99) I waited to see my NFL team (Rams) win a Super Bowl: 33

Years (1973-05) I waited to see my MLB team (Sox) win a World Series: 33

Watch out for Buffalo in the 2007 Stanley Cup Finals. :wink:

Palehose13
11-01-2005, 03:01 PM
This is just amazing to me:



Useless Little-Inning Info
What did all 113 innings that White Sox pitchers threw in this postseason have in common? As the Detroit Free Press' John Lowe reports, none turned into a three-run inning (or more).



That's the longest streak without a three-run inning, in one postseason, by any pitching staff in history. And there have been just six such streaks that even made it through 40 innings, according to retrosheet.org's Dave Smith: 1983: Orioles (82)
1969: Orioles (76)
1976: Reds (63)
1993: Braves (55)
1981: Phillies (44)
2000: Giants (40)




Wow.

JohnBasedowYoda
11-01-2005, 03:58 PM
nice find joosh...thanks!:cool:

TomBradley72
11-01-2005, 05:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2207180

What did all 113 innings that White Sox pitchers threw in this postseason have in common? As the Detroit Free Press' John Lowe reports, none turned into a three-run inning (or more).
That's the longest streak without a three-run inning, in one postseason, by any pitching staff in history (next highest ever was 82). And there have been just six such streaks that even made it through 40 innings, according to retrosheet.org's Dave Smith:

1983: Orioles (82)
1969: Orioles (76)
1976: Reds (63)
1993: Braves (55)
1981: Phillies (44)
2000: Giants (40)

Canadian_SoxFan
11-01-2005, 05:41 PM
Coincidence or Ripley's?

Years (1967-99) I waited to see my NFL team (Rams) win a Super Bowl: 33

Years (1973-05) I waited to see my MLB team (Sox) win a World Series: 33

Watch out for Buffalo in the 2007 Stanley Cup Finals. :wink:
haha I'm a Sabres fan too. From what I've seen so far this year, I like their chances to contend.

Chips
11-01-2005, 06:11 PM
Coincidence or Ripley's?

Years (1967-99) I waited to see my NFL team (Rams) win a Super Bowl: 33

Years (1973-05) I waited to see my MLB team (Sox) win a World Series: 33

Watch out for Buffalo in the 2007 Stanley Cup Finals. :wink:


That's an odd combiniation of teams.
The Blackhawks are the taking the cup.

DumpJerry
11-01-2005, 06:44 PM
What did all 113 innings that White Sox pitchers threw in this postseason have in common? As the Detroit Free Press' John Lowe reports, none turned into a three-run inning (or more).
That's the longest streak without a three-run inning, in one postseason, by any pitching staff in history (next highest ever was 82). And there have been just six such streaks that even made it through 40 innings, according to retrosheet.org's Dave Smith:

1983: Orioles (82)
1969: Orioles (76)
1976: Reds (63)
1993: Braves (55)
1981: Phillies (44)
2000: Giants (40)
I still can't get over that one. It is scary. Very scary. Today I was joking with some fellow Sox fans (longtimers, not bandwagon) and we realized that if Paulie or any other FA wants to sign with an AL team other than the Sox, KW only needs to say "Go ahead. Sign with them. You'll face our pitchers." They'll on the dotted line for the Good Guys.:D:

I thought about sending this stat to Flub fans I know, but they will be confused (113 is a large number) and will say "Wow. The Sox get 113 people at a World Series games? Must be the neighborhood!"