PDA

View Full Version : From Ryno:


soxwon
10-30-2005, 08:01 PM
NOT THE WHOLE ARTICLE



Lucky and greatBy Ryne Sandberg (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive?author=Ryne+Sandberg), Yahoo! Sports
October 27, 2005

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/cn/headshots/rynesandberg4.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive?author=Ryne+Sandberg)http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/p/yse_lo_70x24_2.gif (http://http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/p/yse_lo_70x24_2.gif)The best team in baseball won the World Series. The Chicago White Sox (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/chw/), who led the AL Central the entire year, really didn't have any weaknesses. They did everything well, and as we saw in the playoffs, they pitched well, got timely hitting and played solid defense up the middle. They won as a team.

As I wrote on Monday, the White Sox were fortunate to get every break in the postseason. I'm not saying the umpires had an impact on their championship run because they earned every victory, but they got every call they could get. The breaks just went their way; they had fate on their side.

It's too soon to speculate on the White Sox's chances for a repeat, but they definitely will be in the mix next year. They have a good manager in Ozzie Guillen, and you know that general manager Kenny Williams will have solid backing from ownership to spend money on free agents.

As for the Houston Astros (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/hou/), their problems were simple: They had trouble getting the big hit. Other than Jose Vizcaino (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4428/)'s clutch two-run single in Game 2, the Astros struggled to get a key hit that would give them the lead.

The Astros might have seen the end of an era the Killer Bs era. Craig Biggio (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4217/) and Jeff Bagwell (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/4626/) may finally call it quits after enjoying long, successful careers in Houston. And what will happen with Roger Clemens (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/3340/), too? He might also retire.

I will forever remember this World Series as a victory for Chicago. The city should enjoy the celebration and hope for the Cubs to win it all in 2006.

The White Sox's championship gives Cubs fans a ray of hope. Last year, the Red Sox's curse ended. This year, the White Sox's drought ended. Maybe 2006 will be the Cubs' year. General manager Jim Hendry will have a good amount of money to spend, and if the pitching staff can stay healthy, it could be a memorable season on Chicago's North Side.



Longtime Chicago Cub Ryne Sandberg was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame on July 31, 2005.



Send Ryne a question or comment (http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/sports/cgi_sandberg) for potential use in a future column or webcast. Updated on Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 7:52 pm EDT Email to a Friend (http://m2f.news.yahoo.com/mailto?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsports.yahoo.com%2***b%2Fn ews%3Fslug%3Drs-worldseries102705%26prov%3Dyhoo%26type%3Dlgns&title=Lucky+and+great&prop=sports&locale=us&rf=l) | View Popular (http://sports.yahoo.com/top/mostpopular)

FedEx227
10-30-2005, 08:04 PM
it could be a memorable season on Chicago's North Side.

Exactly where is all this optimism coming from?

Last I noticed this great Chicago Cubs team thats poised to make a title run, was in 4th place last year and were having major roster problems.

I just don't see people seriously considering the Cubs title contenders only based on the fact that two teams with long World Series droughts won in back to back years...

but then against I know the score SOOO.

The Racehorse
10-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Lucky and greatBy Ryne Sandberg (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive?author=Ryne+Sandberg), Yahoo! Sports
October 27, 2005

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/cn/headshots/rynesandberg4.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/expertsarchive?author=Ryne+Sandberg) Maybe 2006 will be the Cubs' year... and if the pitching staff can stay healthy, it could be a memorable season on Chicago's North Side.

... or maybe ole Ryno has been drinking the bong water again.

soxwon
10-30-2005, 09:09 PM
I have a cubs fan friend, who was congratulatory of me, when the sox won it.

Today he calls talkin, first about the AWESOME Bears.

I told him right now im not into Football- im still pumped from the SOX.

Then he goes on a rant about how LUCKY the sox were, that they didnt beat anyone good except for the Astros in the playoffs.
The Astros were good because they come from the Cubs division he goes.
He keeps saying DROPED THIRD STRIKE-DROPED THIRD STRIKE!!!

Then he says just wait come spring all the Talk will be on the Cubs again as usual.
How they will Dominate the Press as usual!!!
How the media will cover Prior and Woods injuries AGAIN.
And the Sox will be forgotten!!!!
When he gets going their is no shutting him up.
I said talk to me when the Cubs win a world series, and he goes they probably wont for a long time, but despite that THe cubs will still be more talked about than The sox, who he says only won 1 world series- Big deal.
I simply hung up on him.
The gall of some of these cubs fans.

DumpJerry
10-30-2005, 10:04 PM
I have a cubs fan friend, who was congratulatory of me, when the sox won it.

Today he calls talkin, first about the AWESOME Bears.

I told him right now im not into Football- im still pumped from the SOX.

Then he goes on a rant about how LUCKY the sox were, that they didnt beat anyone good except for the Astros in the playoffs.
The Astros were good because they come from the Cubs division he goes.
He keeps saying DROPED THIRD STRIKE-DROPED THIRD STRIKE!!!

Then he says just wait come spring all the Talk will be on the Cubs again as usual.
How they will Dominate the Press as usual!!!
How the media will cover Prior and Woods injuries AGAIN.
And the Sox will be forgotten!!!!
When he gets going their is no shutting him up.
I said talk to me when the Cubs win a world series, and he goes they probably wont for a long time, but despite that THe cubs will still be more talked about than The sox, who he says only won 1 world series- Big deal.
I simply hung up on him.
The gall of some of these cubs fans.
*counting to 10 slowly* Ok. Whatever Cub fans say to us to belittle our total domination of the American League this year, a league that won the All Star Game and had better teams overall (nobody won the division with a .500 record in the AL), just say the Phrase That Pays: "We won the World Series." That is the end of the argument. Really. The only thing that mattes to a MLB team when they break camp in March is making it to, and winning, the World Series. All other "accomplishments" pale in comparison.

Now, on to the other silliness that started last year with the Carmines' victory and is now building to a loud crescendo: "It's our turn now that the Red Sox and White have broken their curses/ended their droughts." Hogwash! Teams have never made the World Series, much less won it, because it was their "turn." A team gets there by being good, real good and hot at the end of the season. The 'Stros started the season 15-30 and made it by getting hotter and hotter all season and having the talent to get them there. If MLB was taking turns, then it is the Rangers' turn next year. They were started in 1961 (as the Washington Senators) and have never been to the World Series. The fact that the Rangers were founded a year before the Astros belies the notion of "turns" to the World Series since they should have gotten there before the 'Stros.

Ok. Done now. Breathing again. Let's enjoy what just happened last week and gear up for next year!

MUsoxfan
10-30-2005, 11:48 PM
Exactly where is all this optimism coming from?



As a baseball fan (or sports fan in general) if you don't have optimism, you don't have anything. I don't blame him for wanting his team to win. Sox fans scoffed critics for even daring to think that the Sox wouldn't do so well before the 2005 season. Would someone have guessed 99 regular season wins and a World Championship after looking at our Spring Training roster? Sandberg didn't slight the Sox in any way, and he hopes success for his Cubs. Let him have his optimism

Brewski
10-30-2005, 11:54 PM
Let the record show that the Astros were given a home run on a ball that should have been ruled "in play" since it hit to the left of a magic dividing line on the wall at the juice box. So we didn't get "all" the breaks.

Iron Dragon
10-31-2005, 10:12 AM
Let the record show that the Astros were given a home run on a ball that should have been ruled "in play" since it hit to the left of a magic dividing line on the wall at the juice box. So we didn't get "all" the breaks.

No one in the media is going to acknowledge that. It doesn't support their argument that the Sox won mostly because of luck and bad umpires' calls for them. They also won't mention our pitchers getting squeezed against the Astros, especially Garcia in Game 4. Backe continually got the outside corner while Freddy had to go 3 inches over the plate. HOWEVER, we still won, and that's all that matters.

And can you really blame Flub fans for being optimistic? They do still have Prior, Woods, and Gas Can Zambrano.

slavko
10-31-2005, 10:33 AM
No one in the media is going to acknowledge that. It doesn't support their argument that the Sox won mostly because of luck and bad umpires' calls for them. They also won't mention our pitchers getting squeezed against the Astros, especially Garcia in Game 4. Backe continually got the outside corner while Freddy had to go 3 inches over the plate. HOWEVER, we still won, and that's all that matters.

And can you really blame Flub fans for being optimistic? They do still have Prior, Woods, and Gas Can Zambrano.

That game 4 umpire had a strange, inconsistent strike zone. I thought that pitches at the knees on the outside corner were called OK, but pitches a few inches higher were being squeezed and called balls.

I like to think of Zambrono as "Time Bomb" rather than "Gas Can."

mdep524
10-31-2005, 10:43 AM
Let the record show that the Astros were given a home run on a ball that should have been ruled "in play" since it hit to the left of a magic dividing line on the wall at the juice box. So we didn't get "all" the breaks. I'm sorry but that doesn't count. Nor does Jermaine Dye and Paul Konerko being hit by a pitch but not being awarded first base. Or Tadahito Iguchi being called out on a pick off play in which he was clearly safe in Game 2.

According to the National Media School of "Breaks," as taught by Joe Buck, a play is only controversial if it benefits the White Sox and a call is only "blown" if it goes the Sox' way.

SoxFan76
10-31-2005, 11:05 AM
As a baseball fan (or sports fan in general) if you don't have optimism, you don't have anything. I don't blame him for wanting his team to win. Sox fans scoffed critics for even daring to think that the Sox wouldn't do so well before the 2005 season. Would someone have guessed 99 regular season wins and a World Championship after looking at our Spring Training roster? Sandberg didn't slight the Sox in any way, and he hopes success for his Cubs. Let him have his optimism

Optimism is fine, except for blind optimism. What exactly makes Cub fans think they have a shot at a .500 season, let alone the playoffs? Their team reminds me of the 2001-2004 White Sox. 9 clean up hitters and average to below average pitching.

SpartanSoxFan
10-31-2005, 11:55 AM
He could have left it classy with, "I will forever remember this World Series as a victory for Chicago." Instead, he had to ruin it with, "The city should enjoy the celebration and hope for the Cubs to win it all in 2006." What about us Sox fans that are looking for the Sox to repeat as champs??? Sorry, Ryno, the Cubs aren't entitled to jack squat.

VenturaSoxFan23
10-31-2005, 12:12 PM
Geez, the guy finally opens his mouth and you blast him for being a homer? We should be priveliged he even says anything about us.

mccoydp
10-31-2005, 12:15 PM
That game 4 umpire had a strange, inconsistent strike zone. I thought that pitches at the knees on the outside corner were called OK, but pitches a few inches higher were being squeezed and called balls.

I like to think of Zambrono as "Time Bomb" rather than "Gas Can."

I wonder if his arm has recovered from e-mailing so much.

Captian Ron
10-31-2005, 12:18 PM
I hope everybody is talkin about the cubs. We can fly under the radar agian!:supernana:

MUsoxfan
10-31-2005, 12:20 PM
He could have left it classy with, "I will forever remember this World Series as a victory for Chicago." Instead, he had to ruin it with, "The city should enjoy the celebration and hope for the Cubs to win it all in 2006." What about us Sox fans that are looking for the Sox to repeat as champs??? Sorry, Ryno, the Cubs aren't entitled to jack squat.

So you mean to tell me if someone like Ron Kittle or Bill Melton was writing a baseball column and congratulated the Cubs if they had won it all without wishing the Sox well next year, you woulndn't be upset? *****

VenturaSoxFan23
10-31-2005, 12:28 PM
If you read his power rankings, he gave us plenty of credit. I don't think the White Sox have ever dropped below 5th all year, and that was only when they had that 8 game skid in August.

SpartanSoxFan
10-31-2005, 07:34 PM
So you mean to tell me if someone like Ron Kittle or Bill Melton was writing a baseball column and congratulated the Cubs if they had won it all without wishing the Sox well next year, you woulndn't be upset? *****

I guess I was more upset with the way he worded the latter statement. To me, it screamed, "Well, the Sox won, so surely the Cubs deserve to win it NEXT year." He could've said, "Hopefully, the Sox will build on this banner year and the Cubs will wake-up and do what they need to do to get to the promised land."

Nellie_Fox
10-31-2005, 11:12 PM
...Or Tadahito Iguchi being called out on a pick off play in which he was clearly safe in Game 2.And it was a balk.

RichFitztightly
11-02-2005, 04:04 PM
The White Sox's championship gives Cubs fans a ray of hope. Last year, the Red Sox's curse ended. This year, the White Sox's drought ended. Maybe 2006 will be the Cubs' year.

I just like the fact that he didn't use the curse word to describe the lack of championships on the South side.

doublem23
11-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Exactly where is all this optimism coming from?

Last I noticed this great Chicago Cubs team thats poised to make a title run, was in 4th place last year and were having major roster problems.

I just don't see people seriously considering the Cubs title contenders only based on the fact that two teams with long World Series droughts won in back to back years...

but then against I know the score SOOO.

Well, I one of my friends, who is a Cub fan and actually intelligent, did say that he believes the one silver lining to the Sox's season for him is that he thinks it will force the Cubune to open up its wallet and do whatever it takes to bring a title to the North Side.

Interesting theory, I suppose, but I think this Cubs roster is as likely to win a division, let alone a World Series as, welll...

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/205/1158/200/pigs%20flying.jpg