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whitesoxwilkes
10-30-2005, 03:09 PM
Got a chill hearing about this, but he'll definitely rest in peace now.

Al Lopez Dies. (http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGB6PBKLFFE.html)

Fenway
10-30-2005, 03:12 PM
The only AL Manager that could beat Casey Stengel's Yankees

1954 and 1959

RIP

WestSox
10-30-2005, 03:12 PM
R.i.p. :(:

Paulwny
10-30-2005, 03:13 PM
The only AL Manager that could beat Casey Stengel's Yankees

1954 and 1959

RIP

Yep, Great Manager, RIP

mike squires
10-30-2005, 03:13 PM
Wow. I don't know a lot about him but from what I heard he was a hell of a manager. DId his health permit him to be at any of the games or be honored when they threw out the first pitch?

R.I.P Al.

Magglios_Girl
10-30-2005, 03:29 PM
RIP Al. :(: You'll always be remembered on the South Side.

hsnterprize
10-30-2005, 03:33 PM
It's almost like he picked the perfect time to leave us. He passed his torch to Ozzie, and Ozzie ran with it to the promised land.

May the Lord be with the Lopez family, and all affected by his loss. You will always be a part of the White Sox legacy.

TommyJohn
10-30-2005, 03:41 PM
Ironic that he died soon after the White Sox won the World Series, almost
like he waited until it happened; like when Charles Schulz died the same
day newspapers ran the final Peanuts strip.

I looked up his bio and saw that he was born in August of 1908, so he got
to be around for both the last White Sox and Cubs World Series titles.:D:

soxfanreggie
10-30-2005, 03:50 PM
RIP Al,

It's like he finally got closure with the Sox winning it all. Mr. Lopez, you were a great manager...1959 will always be remembered along with all you did. God Bless you!

TornLabrum
10-30-2005, 03:51 PM
RIP Senor Lopez. I'm glad you lived to see the Sox finally win it all. I hope that now you and Nellie Fox are reconciled up there.

OEO Magglio
10-30-2005, 04:07 PM
RIP

The_Floridian
10-30-2005, 04:09 PM
I'm glad he got to see the White Sox win the title leaving us.

RIP Al.

SouthSide_HitMen
10-30-2005, 04:23 PM
I hope he was able to have watched / enjoyed the World Series - I know he would have loved the result. Now my grandfather is buying him a beer asking him about why Pierce didn't start in the 59 Series.


God Bless Al Lopez and his family - he was a true legend.

antitwins13
10-30-2005, 04:26 PM
RIP. One of the greatest managers in Sox history. You will be missed on the south side.:(:

Chips
10-30-2005, 04:35 PM
RIP.He wanted to wait until the Sox won the title. They should be his #42 on that outfield wall or maybe a statue, which I am sure there is one coming.

Garland_IS_God
10-30-2005, 04:40 PM
Rip

Baby Fisk
10-30-2005, 05:48 PM
RIP *saluting*

Heffalump
10-30-2005, 06:02 PM
Rest In Peace............



My Dad always said he never understood why Lopez didn't let Billy Pierce start one of the '59 WS games. Supposedly there was an issue there between them? Can any SoxFan veterans fill me in on this story?

duke of dorwood
10-30-2005, 06:12 PM
A manager in every sense of the word-the talent wasnt close to matching up w/ Yankees or even the Toons in '59-but he did it-Sound Familiar?

Salud-Senor

MarySwiss
10-30-2005, 06:46 PM
Sox fans, take heart! We have one more Pale Hoser watching over the team as they make next year's run.

Rest in peace, Senor Lopez. And thank you for 1959.

SouthSide_HitMen
10-30-2005, 07:26 PM
Rest In Peace............



My Dad always said he never understood why Lopez didn't let Billy Pierce start one of the '59 WS games. Supposedly there was an issue there between them? Can any SoxFan veterans fill me in on this story?

My Grandfather complained about the same thing. I think Lopez is holding a press conference in heaven to address this issue :cool: .

Wsoxmike59
10-30-2005, 07:34 PM
RIP Senor Lopez. A great manager with a great coaching staff. I thought he'd live forever, and I'm glad he lived long enough to see the Sox make it back to the World Series.


The Go-Go Sox, 1959 A.L. Champions, your legend will live on forever in Sox fans hearts everywhere. God Bless You Al.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/baseball/mlb/10/30/bc.bbo.obit.lopez.ap/p1_lopez-ap.jpg
Al Lopez hit .261 with 51 homers and 652 RBIs during a 19-year career in which he was one of baseball's most durable catchers

Railsplitter
10-30-2005, 08:50 PM
I just pulled my jaw up from the floor. You've heard of untimely deaths? perhaps this is a timely one.

Lip Man 1
10-30-2005, 09:32 PM
The greatest manager in the history of the franchise. A great manager, a long life...what more can you ask?

Lip

LuvSox
10-30-2005, 09:42 PM
Was the oldest living HOFer. Rip Mr. Lopez.

wassagstdu
10-30-2005, 09:46 PM
Lopez was a great manager, but I can't forget the fact that he pitched Early Wynn on 3 days rest instead of Billy Pierce in Game 6, after Pierce had shown in relief that he was strong, and lost the Series.



Here's a quote from an old interview (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_7_62/ai_102520515):Lopez made a surprise comment.


"You know, the writers voted Nellie Fox (future Hall of Fame second baseman) as the Most Valuable Player in the American League that year," he said, "but we (he and his coaching staff) thought Fox was about fifth (most valuable) on our team--behind (catcher Sherm) Lollar, (pitcher Early) Wynn who won 22 games; (Luis) Aparicio, a Hall of Fame shortstop, and (center fielder Jim) Landis who was great that season."


That's just nonsense. He didn't like Fox much, and supposedly kept him out of the HOF for years. Something personal. In that same interview he said Pierce did belong in the HOF. A little guilt, maybe?




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TornLabrum
10-30-2005, 09:51 PM
Lopez was a great manager, but I can't forget the fact that he pitched Early Wynn on 3 days rest instead of Billy Pierce in Game 6, after Pierce had shown in relief that he was strong, and lost the Series.







Here's a quote from an old interview (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCI/is_7_62/ai_102520515):Lopez made a surprise comment.




"You know, the writers voted Nellie Fox (future Hall of Fame second baseman) as the Most Valuable Player in the American League that year," he said, "but we (he and his coaching staff) thought Fox was about fifth (most valuable) on our team--behind (catcher Sherm) Lollar, (pitcher Early) Wynn who won 22 games; (Luis) Aparicio, a Hall of Fame shortstop, and (center fielder Jim) Landis who was great that season."




That's just nonsense. He didn't like Fox much, and supposedly kept him out of the HOF for years. Something personal. In that same interview he said Pierce did belong in the HOF. A little guilt, maybe?


Perhaps not. It has always been my contention, and I've said this to Bill Pierce, that the only reason he isn't in the HOF is that he wore the wrong pinstripes.

PKalltheway
10-30-2005, 10:00 PM
At least he got to see the Sox win it all. He figured after that, I have finally seen it all. Take it easy, Al and God bless.

DumpJerry
10-30-2005, 10:40 PM
he got to be around for both the last White Sox and Cubs World Series titles.:D:
Last? Make that most recent White Sox title.

The timing is something else. It was like this year was a big sendoff for him with the Dodgers series in June and the renewal of the White Sox fight song from 1959 afterwards to getting to the WS.

RIP Senor, you've got a front row seat for next season!

Lip Man 1
10-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Have spoken to Ken Berry, Ed Herrmann and Joe Horlen tonight on Al. Will get ahold of Billy Pierce, Jim Landis, Pete Ward and Gary Peters tomorrow.

Will do a nice obit story on Al for WSI. Al seemed to be a great baseball man, very solid, very caring but he also had his tough side. Go to my interview with Ray herbert located in the WSI INTERVIEWS section for some pretty revealing stories about Al.

He was a guy who didn't take any BS, especially if you weren't hustling.

Lip

veeter
10-31-2005, 10:21 AM
From what I've read, Lopez brought respect to the Southside. A player who played for both he and Stengel said, Lopez had much more command of his guys than Stengel. I don't know what happened between he and Fox. Likewise with he and Pierce but the guy was definitely a presence. R.I.P. to the original grinder.

PaulDrake
10-31-2005, 11:50 AM
A great manager. He did his best work for three consecutive second place teams (1963-65). Still he was not perfect. If you got on his bad side, you more than likely stayed there. Lopez did make a mistake in 59 by putting Pierce on the shelf. I also think that Wynn hurt his shoulder in game 1, rendering him ineffective in his next 2 starts. It's all in the past now. Lopez on balance was one of the best managers ever and his passing so soon after the White Sox won the World Series is a little eerie. RIP Senor Al.

Fungo
10-31-2005, 11:57 AM
Rest in Peace Skipper.

BigKlu59
10-31-2005, 01:31 PM
Rest in Peace Al. Great you were able to hang in there untill the Grail landed in its rightful place on the South Side. Really enjoyed watching you Skipper the Sox in the 60's when we came oh so close on so many occasions. I always wondered what if's if you were there in 83,93 and 2000... Enjoy a good cigar on me and get that lineup card ready for the big game in the sky..

Big Klu 59

Fenway
10-31-2005, 03:04 PM
from the NY Daily News

http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/285-lopez_al.JPG
He got the Sox Go-Going
Hall of Famer Al Lopez, the only manager to deny the Yankees pennants in the 1950s, died yesterday in Tampa of a heart attack at 97, four days after his last team, the White Sox, won their first World Series in 88 years.
FULL STORY (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/360901p-307516c.html)

Fuller_Schettman
10-31-2005, 03:47 PM
Did You Know... that Al Lopez managed the 1954 Indians and the 1959 White Sox, the only teams to beat out the Yankees for first place in the American League from 1949-1964?

Did You Know... that prior to his death on October 30, 2005, Al Lopez was the last living player who had played a major league game in the 1920s?

flo-B-flo
10-31-2005, 06:03 PM
RIP Senor Al. My dad always cursed when He thought of Billy Pierces' omission in the 59 series and his spat with Nellie. My dad worshiped Nellie.

chisoxfan64
10-31-2005, 06:08 PM
RIP Al.

HITMEN OF 77
10-31-2005, 07:37 PM
A great manger and a great baseball man. RIP Senor Lopez. I'm glad you got to see the Sox win it all.

kevin57
11-01-2005, 09:32 AM
Requiescat In Pace.

I am not sad at Al's passing. This is a time of honoring and yes, celebration. He had a long, and from all appearances, good life. He died as he saw his team take it all. What a way to go!

Lip Man 1
11-01-2005, 12:40 PM
George will be doing a special update of the web site in midweek with stories on Lopez's life and career with the Sox including comments by a half dozen of his former players, both good and bad.

Lip

DenverSock
11-01-2005, 12:42 PM
What can you say? R.I.P. to a Sox legend.

CHEESESOXER
11-01-2005, 02:49 PM
I read what he said about Elson.

I met this guy in the 50's and thought he was one of the rudest & most self important people I've ever met.
I was about 14 or 15 at the time & was introduced to him.
He just totally ignored me as I held out my hand.

I remember the uproar when Lopez wouldn't sdtart Billy in the WS.
He was one of our greatest pitchers ever and deserved to start a game.
Almost all of us who were around at the time have never forgiven Lopez for this.

Lip Man 1
11-01-2005, 08:17 PM
The Lopez memorial story is now on the main page of WSI.

It has comments from six of his former players.

Lip

AZSoxFAN
11-02-2005, 04:28 PM
God rest his soul, but I never had a warm spot in my heart for the "Senor." He singlehandedly kept Nellie Fox out of the Hall of Fame for decades by discounting Nellies (his own player) contribution to the 1959 Sox and his achievements in general. (Other members who voted would not vote for a player that didn't have the support of his own manager) I never could understand Al's take on Fox, but I didn't appreciate it.